Tired of not-winning? ... Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter

That’s what all tax code does...encourages or discourages spending habits and behaviors. I’d bet some people much smarter than you and I have good reason to frame such guidelines.

Yes, the people that want to control our lives have a good reason to use the tax code to try and influence our behavior.

People that are not statist or socialist think it is a bad thing.

The purpose of taxes is supposed to be to raise revenue for the government...not for social engineering.

But too many people are more than happy to be led around by the nose.

Hey look, I hate all taxes...PERIOD. I can play the role of anti government badass too...that’s fun to do in cyberspace...but guess what, unfortunately taxes are here to stay so why waste my time selling you on how badass I am?
Tax code does in fact raise .gov revenue but it also encourages and discourages spending behavior for reasons you aren’t smart enough to realize as you aren’t privy to enough data, historical and otherwise.

So what you have just said is that you agree with the premise that the knows what is good for us better than we know ourselves.

This I guess is not surprising based on your love of the government.


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Hahaha...you’re so predictable...thanks for that.
This has nothing to do with love of government. This has everything to do with acknowledging that a super educated, uber intelligent economist whom spends his days and nights studying economics while privy to data and information that you are not may know a little more about what’s best for our tax code.
See, you self proclaimed smartest guys in the room can’t ever admit that shit to yourselves.

This sudden love of academia from you is unexpected. Who knew you had such devotion to government employed economist.

I suppose when these self same economist say we need to increase the tax rate and need to allow more immigration you will be defending those ideas as well.




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Don’t dig too deep bud...let’s stay semi constructive....some shit makes sense and some shit makes no sense at all...the two are usually pretty easy to distinguish. As much as I hate government workings I can’t spend my days hating those running the nation I CHOOSE to live in.
I side with the Republican Party not because I agree with all of their ideals but because they are the most reasonable with their policies.
 
The feces has hit the fan at tax refund time as low and middle-class Americans are finding that Trump has his hand in their pocket and has stolen money from their refunds.

The wealthy are still doing just fine. The lies about the Trump tax cuts is now exposed that the low and middle class are financing the tax cuts for the wealthy people and corporations.

Donald Trump won't be able to spin his way out of the tax cut lie.

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter | HuffPost

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter
Many workers who had always gotten a refund find out they now owe the IRS.
headshot
By Mary Papenfuss

Average tax refunds were down last week 8.4 percent for the first week of the tax season over the same time last year, according to the Internal Revenue Service. Dipping refunds are inflaming a growing army of taxpayers stunned by the consequences of the Trump administration’s tax law — and the effects of the partial government shutdown.

The average refund check paid out so far has been $1,865, down from $2,035 at the same point in 2018, according to IRS data. Low-income taxpayers often file early to pocket the money as soon as possible. Many taxpayers count on the refunds to make important payments, or spend the money on things like home repairs, a vacation or a car.

The IRS had estimated it would issue about 2.3 percent fewer refunds this year as a result of the changes in the federal tax law, according to Bloomberg. MSNBC reports that 30 million Americans will owe the IRS money this year — 3 million more than before Trump’s tax law.

“There are going to be a lot of unhappy people over the next month,” Edward Karl of the American Institute of CPAs told Politico. “Taxpayers want a large refund.” Some 71 percent of taxpayers received refunds last year worth about $3,000 on average, according to Karl.

Scads of taxpayers are complaining on Twitter that they have always received a refund — but now owe the IRS instead. ...

The Left never ceases in its quest for class Warfare. This article says it all. It’s very irresponsible in its analysis. It should point out that Americans are keeping more of their regular paychecks, hence, Patrick no lower taxes; in particular, the Middle Class. The Poor do not pay taxes. Why should the Poor get a refund on something they did not pay?

I owe the IRS and feel that the amount is close to zero on the negative side vs. an egregiously large refund coming due to me on the positive side which means I would have given the Government an interest-free loan over the course of a year.

the "poor" as you call them pay property tax, sales tax, gas tax, tobacco tax etc etc etc, so your RW talking point is moot.

yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
 
Trump 48%
Obama 46%
If Obama was treated the same as Trump, he would've resigned in his first year.

Fake news.
Keep up the good work, the more you whine. The more popular he gets. Lol

Does being dishonest give you wood?
Lol, whaaaa whaaaa is what you do daily. Get over it, Trump is your president.

Incorrect. I have never posted inaccurate or misleading information here. I check my sources first.

Every time.

And yes, Trump is our president. How odd that you weirdo's use that fact as a kind of stick in the eye. Even you know its weird to have a fucknut like him in charge.
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the "poor" as you call them pay property tax, sales tax, gas tax, tobacco tax etc etc etc, so your RW talking point is moot.

yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
The topic is the federal income tax, Gomer.
 
Fake news.
Keep up the good work, the more you whine. The more popular he gets. Lol

Does being dishonest give you wood?
Lol, whaaaa whaaaa is what you do daily. Get over it, Trump is your president.

Incorrect. I have never posted inaccurate or misleading information here. I check my sources first.

Every time.

And yes, Trump is our president. How odd that you weirdo's use that fact as a kind of stick in the eye. Even you know its weird to have a fucknut like him in charge.
DlJWtPqU8AATLSn.jpg
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Yes, the people that want to control our lives have a good reason to use the tax code to try and influence our behavior.

People that are not statist or socialist think it is a bad thing.

The purpose of taxes is supposed to be to raise revenue for the government...not for social engineering.

But too many people are more than happy to be led around by the nose.

Hey look, I hate all taxes...PERIOD. I can play the role of anti government badass too...that’s fun to do in cyberspace...but guess what, unfortunately taxes are here to stay so why waste my time selling you on how badass I am?
Tax code does in fact raise .gov revenue but it also encourages and discourages spending behavior for reasons you aren’t smart enough to realize as you aren’t privy to enough data, historical and otherwise.

So what you have just said is that you agree with the premise that the knows what is good for us better than we know ourselves.

This I guess is not surprising based on your love of the government.


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Hahaha...you’re so predictable...thanks for that.
This has nothing to do with love of government. This has everything to do with acknowledging that a super educated, uber intelligent economist whom spends his days and nights studying economics while privy to data and information that you are not may know a little more about what’s best for our tax code.
See, you self proclaimed smartest guys in the room can’t ever admit that shit to yourselves.

This sudden love of academia from you is unexpected. Who knew you had such devotion to government employed economist.

I suppose when these self same economist say we need to increase the tax rate and need to allow more immigration you will be defending those ideas as well.




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Don’t dig too deep bud...let’s stay semi constructive....some shit makes sense and some shit makes no sense at all...the two are usually pretty easy to distinguish. As much as I hate government workings I can’t spend my days hating those running the nation I CHOOSE to live in.
I side with the Republican Party not because I agree with all of their ideals but because they are the most reasonable with their policies.

You can spin it any way you like, but what you are saying is that the government knows better than we do what is good for us.

The truly scary part is that you seem to believe they have our best interest, and not their own, in mind when they make these rules and laws.
 
Hey look, I hate all taxes...PERIOD. I can play the role of anti government badass too...that’s fun to do in cyberspace...but guess what, unfortunately taxes are here to stay so why waste my time selling you on how badass I am?
Tax code does in fact raise .gov revenue but it also encourages and discourages spending behavior for reasons you aren’t smart enough to realize as you aren’t privy to enough data, historical and otherwise.

So what you have just said is that you agree with the premise that the knows what is good for us better than we know ourselves.

This I guess is not surprising based on your love of the government.


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Hahaha...you’re so predictable...thanks for that.
This has nothing to do with love of government. This has everything to do with acknowledging that a super educated, uber intelligent economist whom spends his days and nights studying economics while privy to data and information that you are not may know a little more about what’s best for our tax code.
See, you self proclaimed smartest guys in the room can’t ever admit that shit to yourselves.

This sudden love of academia from you is unexpected. Who knew you had such devotion to government employed economist.

I suppose when these self same economist say we need to increase the tax rate and need to allow more immigration you will be defending those ideas as well.




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Don’t dig too deep bud...let’s stay semi constructive....some shit makes sense and some shit makes no sense at all...the two are usually pretty easy to distinguish. As much as I hate government workings I can’t spend my days hating those running the nation I CHOOSE to live in.
I side with the Republican Party not because I agree with all of their ideals but because they are the most reasonable with their policies.

You can spin it any way you like, but what you are saying is that the government knows better than we do what is good for us.

The truly scary part is that you seem to believe they have our best interest, and not their own, in mind when they make these rules and laws.

Actually I’ve implied quite the opposite....Lets recap just for fun.
I said I hate all income taxes
I said I think there are smarter people than myself working within sectors of .gov
I said I trust the Republican Party more than I trust the Democrats.
Make what you will from it...just know, you megalomaniacs are all the same, you can’t dare admit that you don’t have all things about everything completely figured out. I know your type well. I feel very bad for your wife.
 
Keep up the good work, the more you whine. The more popular he gets. Lol

Does being dishonest give you wood?
Lol, whaaaa whaaaa is what you do daily. Get over it, Trump is your president.

Incorrect. I have never posted inaccurate or misleading information here. I check my sources first.

Every time.

And yes, Trump is our president. How odd that you weirdo's use that fact as a kind of stick in the eye. Even you know its weird to have a fucknut like him in charge.
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Mueller is coming, Mueller is coming. I bet you want to have trump for president for life. Well so does Trump because Maryland and New York State want him for life as well but for a different reason. Let's help him along. Mueller is coming, Mueller is coming.
 
Actually I’ve implied quite the opposite....Lets recap just for fun.
I said I hate all income taxes
I said I think there are smarter people than myself working within sectors of .gov
I said I trust the Republican Party more than I trust the Democrats.
Make what you will from it...just know, you megalomaniacs are all the same, you can’t dare admit that you don’t have all things about everything completely figured out. I know your type well. I feel very bad for your wife.

you have not implied anything, you stated plainly that these smart people working know better than we do what is good for us and what behavior we should exhibit.
 
Does being dishonest give you wood?
Lol, whaaaa whaaaa is what you do daily. Get over it, Trump is your president.

Incorrect. I have never posted inaccurate or misleading information here. I check my sources first.

Every time.

And yes, Trump is our president. How odd that you weirdo's use that fact as a kind of stick in the eye. Even you know its weird to have a fucknut like him in charge.
DlJWtPqU8AATLSn.jpg
View attachment 244959

Mueller is coming, Mueller is coming. I bet you want to have trump for president for life. Well so does Trump because Maryland and New York State want him for life as well but for a different reason. Let's help him along. Mueller is coming, Mueller is coming.
Not really, just till 2024 Trump will be your president. Then Pence can make you pee yourself for another 8 years.
 
Actually I’ve implied quite the opposite....Lets recap just for fun.
I said I hate all income taxes
I said I think there are smarter people than myself working within sectors of .gov
I said I trust the Republican Party more than I trust the Democrats.
Make what you will from it...just know, you megalomaniacs are all the same, you can’t dare admit that you don’t have all things about everything completely figured out. I know your type well. I feel very bad for your wife.

you have not implied anything, you stated plainly that these smart people working know better than we do what is good for us and what behavior we should exhibit.

Haha...negative. I “plainly stated” that I’m not stupid enough to believe that I’m smarter than SOME working within government...I “plainly stated” that I’m not stupid enough to believe that I always know what’s best for American economics. Get ahold of yourself bud...go tell your wife how you’re always surrounded by dumbasses.
 
Haha...negative. I “plainly stated” that I’m not stupid enough to believe that I’m smarter than SOME working within government...I “plainly stated” that I’m not stupid enough to believe that I always know what’s best for American economics. Get ahold of yourself bud...go tell your wife how you’re always surrounded by dumbasses.

No matter how you spin it, you are ok with the government using the tax code to influence our behavior because "smart people" made those laws.

you cannot walk that one back.

oh, and she likes to read over my shoulder when she walks by and laughs her ass off at the morons on here.
 
Leftist propaganda is pathetic. They recieved more than that during the year in the increased paychecks. What sort of tard wants the government to hold their money with no interest?
Libtard jaws drop! "Oh I forgot about that....duh".....
 
Haha...negative. I “plainly stated” that I’m not stupid enough to believe that I’m smarter than SOME working within government...I “plainly stated” that I’m not stupid enough to believe that I always know what’s best for American economics. Get ahold of yourself bud...go tell your wife how you’re always surrounded by dumbasses.

No matter how you spin it, you are ok with the government using the tax code to influence our behavior because "smart people" made those laws.

you cannot walk that one back.

oh, and she likes to read over my shoulder when she walks by and laughs her ass off at the morons on here.

Haha...that’s your story...I’ll let you tell it.
So the wifey is a megalomaniac as well?
 
Leftist propaganda is pathetic. They recieved more than that during the year in the increased paychecks. What sort of tard wants the government to hold their money with no interest?


The government adjusted the withholding tables, not just the tax rates.
 
Haha...negative. I “plainly stated” that I’m not stupid enough to believe that I’m smarter than SOME working within government...I “plainly stated” that I’m not stupid enough to believe that I always know what’s best for American economics. Get ahold of yourself bud...go tell your wife how you’re always surrounded by dumbasses.

No matter how you spin it, you are ok with the government using the tax code to influence our behavior because "smart people" made those laws.

you cannot walk that one back.

oh, and she likes to read over my shoulder when she walks by and laughs her ass off at the morons on here.

Haha...that’s your story...I’ll let you tell it.
So the wifey is a megalomaniac as well?

not at all, she just happens to have a brain and common sense. Two things you lack.
 
Haha...negative. I “plainly stated” that I’m not stupid enough to believe that I’m smarter than SOME working within government...I “plainly stated” that I’m not stupid enough to believe that I always know what’s best for American economics. Get ahold of yourself bud...go tell your wife how you’re always surrounded by dumbasses.

No matter how you spin it, you are ok with the government using the tax code to influence our behavior because "smart people" made those laws.

you cannot walk that one back.

oh, and she likes to read over my shoulder when she walks by and laughs her ass off at the morons on here.

Haha...that’s your story...I’ll let you tell it.
So the wifey is a megalomaniac as well?

not at all, she just happens to have a brain and common sense. Two things you lack.

Haha...that’s exactly what all ‘known-it-alls’ would say...agin, so predictable.
 
Haha...negative. I “plainly stated” that I’m not stupid enough to believe that I’m smarter than SOME working within government...I “plainly stated” that I’m not stupid enough to believe that I always know what’s best for American economics. Get ahold of yourself bud...go tell your wife how you’re always surrounded by dumbasses.

No matter how you spin it, you are ok with the government using the tax code to influence our behavior because "smart people" made those laws.

you cannot walk that one back.

oh, and she likes to read over my shoulder when she walks by and laughs her ass off at the morons on here.

Haha...that’s your story...I’ll let you tell it.
So the wifey is a megalomaniac as well?

not at all, she just happens to have a brain and common sense. Two things you lack.

Haha...that’s exactly what all ‘known-it-alls’ would say...agin, so predictable.

You really seem to be envious of my intelligence. Do not feel bad, God made everyone different.

In the immortal words of Judge Smails: "...the world needs ditch diggers too".
 
The feces has hit the fan at tax refund time as low and middle-class Americans are finding that Trump has his hand in their pocket and has stolen money from their refunds.

The wealthy are still doing just fine. The lies about the Trump tax cuts is now exposed that the low and middle class are financing the tax cuts for the wealthy people and corporations.

Donald Trump won't be able to spin his way out of the tax cut lie.

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter | HuffPost

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter
Many workers who had always gotten a refund find out they now owe the IRS.
headshot
By Mary Papenfuss

Average tax refunds were down last week 8.4 percent for the first week of the tax season over the same time last year, according to the Internal Revenue Service. Dipping refunds are inflaming a growing army of taxpayers stunned by the consequences of the Trump administration’s tax law — and the effects of the partial government shutdown.

The average refund check paid out so far has been $1,865, down from $2,035 at the same point in 2018, according to IRS data. Low-income taxpayers often file early to pocket the money as soon as possible. Many taxpayers count on the refunds to make important payments, or spend the money on things like home repairs, a vacation or a car.

The IRS had estimated it would issue about 2.3 percent fewer refunds this year as a result of the changes in the federal tax law, according to Bloomberg. MSNBC reports that 30 million Americans will owe the IRS money this year — 3 million more than before Trump’s tax law.

“There are going to be a lot of unhappy people over the next month,” Edward Karl of the American Institute of CPAs told Politico. “Taxpayers want a large refund.” Some 71 percent of taxpayers received refunds last year worth about $3,000 on average, according to Karl.

Scads of taxpayers are complaining on Twitter that they have always received a refund — but now owe the IRS instead. ...

The Left never ceases in its quest for class Warfare. This article says it all. It’s very irresponsible in its analysis. It should point out that Americans are keeping more of their regular paychecks, hence, Patrick no lower taxes; in particular, the Middle Class. The Poor do not pay taxes. Why should the Poor get a refund on something they did not pay?

I owe the IRS and feel that the amount is close to zero on the negative side vs. an egregiously large refund coming due to me on the positive side which means I would have given the Government an interest-free loan over the course of a year.

the "poor" as you call them pay property tax, sales tax, gas tax, tobacco tax etc etc etc, so your RW talking point is moot.

yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

Income tax?
 

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