To claim asylum you must be physically in the US .

[Timmy]

Don’t believe the righty propaganda about “applying the right way”. You actually have to be in the US to claim asylum. So if someone walks up to the border and claims asylum they aren’t illegal .

Obtaining Asylum in the United States

To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.

So they give us their applications outside the US. If the application is approved, then they can come in and claim asylum. What's the problem?

The problem is like most Democrats, you want them sneaking in this country like they did under Ears and disappear after they make their claim never to be seen again.

Think about it . If that was the process the INS would be bombarded with millions of apps every year .

God do any of you ever put a thought into anything you say?

And that's exactly what happened under Hussein. Ever hear of Catch and Release?

Right . Cause our immigration courts are swamped. Better to spend wall money on more courts and agents .

By the way , catch and release is way cheaper than jailing everyone .

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Timmy the silly OP still won't tell us why he wants them to get into America....

Nobody has told him why.

He might believe it's about "giving them an opportunity or rescuing them from their shit holes" but the reality is that it's a politically motivated and funded challenge to US Sovereignty. If Trump is forced to back down, our border has been nullified.

What Timmy and the left are doing is looking for loopholes. They don't want to stop illegal immigration, they want to continue tenfold. As far as a leftist is concerned, the more illegals in this country, the better. Liberals are Surrender-First Americans that would sellout our country to the lowest bidder.

Not true . The Dems has a deal ready , that included more borders security, and the gop bailed on it .

Border security doesn't do squat if they can come here, overstay their Visa's, claim asylum, get into the country and never come back.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Yep, they can get in line and we'll open a single door at a port of entry. Outside that door will be a stack of asylum applications. Inside, an ICE agent backed by a platoon of the First Cavalry, fully armed. Give the ICE agent a single rubber stamp and an ink pad. The stamp should read, "Rejected".

The law also guarantees them a hearing.

You may not like it....but it's the law

The law is also you can't come here and claim asylum if you have been offered asylum in another country and refused it.

Well, the OP posted a link, and it tells of the 2 types of asylum. One, you have to come into this country, and then ask for asylum because of persecution in your home country.

The other, is when the government starts deportation proceedings, or is trying to remove you from this country.

Do you have a link that says if you are granted asylum in another country, that you can't ask for it here? I don't believe such a condition exists.

But, here are the 2 types of asylum..................from the OP's link, which is to an official government website.

The two ways of obtaining asylum in the United States are through the affirmative process and defensive process.


Close All Open All

Affirmative Asylum Processing with USCIS

To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.


You must apply for asylum within one year of the date of their last arrival in the United States, unless you can show:

• Changed circumstances that materially affect your eligibility for asylum or extraordinary circumstances relating to the delay in filing
• You filed within a reasonable amount of time given those circumstances.

You may apply for affirmative asylum by submitting Form I-589, Application for Asylum and for Withholding of Removal, to USCIS. See Form I 589, Application for Asylum and for Withholding of Removal for instructions on how to file for asylum.


Defensive Asylum Processing with EOIR

A defensive application for asylum occurs when you request asylum as a defense against removal from the U.S. For asylum processing to be defensive, you must be in removal proceedings in immigration court with the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR).


Individuals are generally placed into defensive asylum processing in one of two ways:·

• They are referred to an Immigration Judge by USCIS after they have been determined to be ineligible for asylum at the end of the affirmative asylum process, or
• They are placed in removal proceedings because they:
  • Were apprehended (or caught) in the United States or at a U.S. port of entry without proper legal documents or in violation of their immigration status,
    OR
  • Were caught by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) trying to enter the United States without proper documentation, were placed in the expedited removal process, and were found to have a credible fear of persecution or torture by an Asylum Officer. See Questions & Answers: Credible Fear Screenings for more information on the Credible Fear Process.

Immigration Judges hear defensive asylum cases in adversarial (courtroom-like) proceedings. The judge will hear arguments from both of the following parties:

• The individual (and his or her attorney, if represented)·
• The U.S. Government, which is represented by an attorney from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)

The Immigration Judge then decides whether the individual is eligible for asylum. If found eligible, the Immigration Judge will order asylum to be granted. If found ineligible for asylum, the Immigration Judge will determine whether the individual is eligible for any other forms of relief from removal. If found ineligible for other forms of relief, the Immigration Judge will order the individual to be removed from the United States. The Immigration Judge’s decision can be appealed by either party.

 

[Darkwind]

Don’t believe the righty propaganda about “applying the right way”. You actually have to be in the US to claim asylum. So if someone walks up to the border and claims asylum they aren’t illegal .

Obtaining Asylum in the United States

To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.

So they give us their applications outside the US. If the application is approved, then they can come in and claim asylum. What's the problem?

The problem is like most Democrats, you want them sneaking in this country like they did under Ears and disappear after they make their claim never to be seen again.

Think about it . If that was the process the INS would be bombarded with millions of apps every year .

God do any of you ever put a thought into anything you say?

And that's exactly what happened under Hussein. Ever hear of Catch and Release?

Right . Cause our immigration courts are swamped. Better to spend wall money on more courts and agents .

By the way , catch and release is way cheaper than jailing everyone .

spend the money on the wall, and the court's backlog goes away.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Don’t believe the righty propaganda about “applying the right way”. You actually have to be in the US to claim asylum. So if someone walks up to the border and claims asylum they aren’t illegal .

Obtaining Asylum in the United States

To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.

So they give us their applications outside the US. If the application is approved, then they can come in and claim asylum. What's the problem?

The problem is like most Democrats, you want them sneaking in this country like they did under Ears and disappear after they make their claim never to be seen again.

Think about it . If that was the process the INS would be bombarded with millions of apps every year .

God do any of you ever put a thought into anything you say?

And that's exactly what happened under Hussein. Ever hear of Catch and Release?

Right . Cause our immigration courts are swamped. Better to spend wall money on more courts and agents .

By the way , catch and release is way cheaper than jailing everyone .

If we had a law that anybody caught here illegally faces a minimum five year federal prison sentence, nobody would come here illegally.

 

[Geaux4it]

Don’t believe the righty propaganda about “applying the right way”. You actually have to be in the US to claim asylum. So if someone walks up to the border and claims asylum they aren’t illegal .

Obtaining Asylum in the United States

To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.

Who gives a shit Timmy? Fuck em

-Geaux

 

[Darkwind]

Don’t believe the righty propaganda about “applying the right way”. You actually have to be in the US to claim asylum. So if someone walks up to the border and claims asylum they aren’t illegal .

Obtaining Asylum in the United States

To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.

So they give us their applications outside the US. If the application is approved, then they can come in and claim asylum. What's the problem?

The problem is like most Democrats, you want them sneaking in this country like they did under Ears and disappear after they make their claim never to be seen again.

Think about it . If that was the process the INS would be bombarded with millions of apps every year .

God do any of you ever put a thought into anything you say?

And that's exactly what happened under Hussein. Ever hear of Catch and Release?

Right . Cause our immigration courts are swamped. Better to spend wall money on more courts and agents .

By the way , catch and release is way cheaper than jailing everyone .

If we had a law that anybody caught here illegally faces a minimum five year federal prison sentence, nobody would come here illegally.

Why the slap on the wrist?

10 years hard labor and immediate deportation upon parole. They can be put to work on fortifying the wall on the southern border. If they attempt to flee into Mexico, well, the guards are not permitted to shoot them.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Don’t believe the righty propaganda about “applying the right way”. You actually have to be in the US to claim asylum. So if someone walks up to the border and claims asylum they aren’t illegal .

Obtaining Asylum in the United States

To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.

So they give us their applications outside the US. If the application is approved, then they can come in and claim asylum. What's the problem?

The problem is like most Democrats, you want them sneaking in this country like they did under Ears and disappear after they make their claim never to be seen again.

Think about it . If that was the process the INS would be bombarded with millions of apps every year .

God do any of you ever put a thought into anything you say?

And that's exactly what happened under Hussein. Ever hear of Catch and Release?

Right . Cause our immigration courts are swamped. Better to spend wall money on more courts and agents .

By the way , catch and release is way cheaper than jailing everyone .

If we had a law that anybody caught here illegally faces a minimum five year federal prison sentence, nobody would come here illegally.

You know, Trump, Sessions and all the other idiots in Homeland thought that separating families and taking kids away from their parents would be enough of a deterrent.

Now? Basically, you are suggesting giving them free room and board for 5 years, as well as access to the legal system and other things to press their case to stay.

Nope, sorry, but that doesn't sound like much of a deterrent to a desperate person from another country. Sounds like you're putting out the welcome mat.

 

[Timmy]

Timmy the silly OP still won't tell us why he wants them to get into America....

Nobody has told him why.

He might believe it's about "giving them an opportunity or rescuing them from their shit holes" but the reality is that it's a politically motivated and funded challenge to US Sovereignty. If Trump is forced to back down, our border has been nullified.

What Timmy and the left are doing is looking for loopholes. They don't want to stop illegal immigration, they want to continue tenfold. As far as a leftist is concerned, the more illegals in this country, the better. Liberals are Surrender-First Americans that would sellout our country to the lowest bidder.

Not true . The Dems has a deal ready , that included more borders security, and the gop bailed on it .

Border security doesn't do squat if they can come here, overstay their Visa's, claim asylum, get into the country and never come back.

Estimated 40% of illegals overstay visas .

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So they give us their applications outside the US. If the application is approved, then they can come in and claim asylum. What's the problem?

The problem is like most Democrats, you want them sneaking in this country like they did under Ears and disappear after they make their claim never to be seen again.

Think about it . If that was the process the INS would be bombarded with millions of apps every year .

God do any of you ever put a thought into anything you say?

And that's exactly what happened under Hussein. Ever hear of Catch and Release?

Right . Cause our immigration courts are swamped. Better to spend wall money on more courts and agents .

By the way , catch and release is way cheaper than jailing everyone .

If we had a law that anybody caught here illegally faces a minimum five year federal prison sentence, nobody would come here illegally.

Why the slap on the wrist?

10 years hard labor and immediate deportation upon parole. They can be put to work on fortifying the wall on the southern border. If they attempt to flee into Mexico, well, the guards are not permitted to shoot them.

We can't even do that to American prisoners thanks to liberal courts.

What Democrats are doing is saying they want to get rid of the stray cats in their yard, and then put out a big bowl of milk every night on the patio.

They get in through some loophole, run to a sanctuary city somewhere, and those cities give them drivers licenses, educate their children, allow them to rent and even buy homes, and we are supposed to think that's a deterrent?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So they give us their applications outside the US. If the application is approved, then they can come in and claim asylum. What's the problem?

The problem is like most Democrats, you want them sneaking in this country like they did under Ears and disappear after they make their claim never to be seen again.

Think about it . If that was the process the INS would be bombarded with millions of apps every year .

God do any of you ever put a thought into anything you say?

And that's exactly what happened under Hussein. Ever hear of Catch and Release?

Right . Cause our immigration courts are swamped. Better to spend wall money on more courts and agents .

By the way , catch and release is way cheaper than jailing everyone .

If we had a law that anybody caught here illegally faces a minimum five year federal prison sentence, nobody would come here illegally.

You know, Trump, Sessions and all the other idiots in Homeland thought that separating families and taking kids away from their parents would be enough of a deterrent.

Now? Basically, you are suggesting giving them free room and board for 5 years, as well as access to the legal system and other things to press their case to stay.

Nope, sorry, but that doesn't sound like much of a deterrent to a desperate person from another country. Sounds like you're putting out the welcome mat.

Oh yeah? Let's try it for five years and see what happens.

 

[Pete7469]

The right way is to get approval for a temporary visa and then apply. Is the OP suggesting people should come here illegally and then apply for refugee status?

The OP is just telling you what the law is . So you don’t have to wallow in ignorance. Although you seem to enjoy ignorance.

Your OP implies that the only way to seek asylum is come over illegally. You’re the ignorant one.

It's far worse than mere ignorance.

You are staring into the dead vacuous eyes of a bed wetting, severely retarded wad of bio-hazardous genetic waste. The moonbat posting bots that work message boards and respond to posts with insipid drivel according to whatever algorithm was programmed into it are better than this dipshit. I almost think he's a republicrat operative trying to make bed wetters sound... well as stupid as they could be and still live.

What kind of idiot believes allowing hordes of people from God knows what living conditions, carrying God knows what fuckin diseases, with God knows what sort of intentions were they allowed in, is a good idea? You have to be DANGEROUSLY STUPID to believe someone who tells you Timmy's teachers did a good job, or that Timmy has actually sat down, read posts from the people who have wasted time countering his vomit with facts, PICTURES, logic, reason, VIDEO, you name it, he has not THOUGHT about any of it, made conclusions on his own or even looked at of it. Timmy blocks information that interferes with his programming. He does so deliberately and as far as I'm concerned that is the worst sort of piece of shit waste of oxygen a human being can be.

It's because of pieces of vacuous shit like that we have cults of personality that have ruled over countries and butchered millions, starved and enslaved millions more, drones like Timmy's dumb ass waving flags for Stalin or hanging people for Mao. They're already rioting and assaulting people in the streets, it's not going to be long for history to repeat itself. Hence the desperation of leftist sociopaths to undermine the 2nd Amendment.


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[harmonica]

all the more reason to keep them out --DUH
if they have a right to asylum, then half the world also does

Those seeking asylum must prove that that they are escaping their homeland because of persecution due to race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.[9] The Immigration and Nationality Act explicitly provides these five bases for granting asylum,[10] having been heavily influenced by the 1951 United Nations Convention on the Status of Refugees.

Immigration Law: The Rules and Procedure for Asylum Seekers
you have to be a dumbshit to want your tax $$$$ wasted on this shit

 

[Pete7469]

.

You mean the millions of apps for immigration they receive every year? Do you put any thought into your replies at all?

That's what I'm telling you.

HE CAN'T.


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[Lesh]

apply at port of entry.

A port of entry is IN the US...and by law you must be granted a hearing

 

[Lesh]

all the more reason to keep them out --DUH
if they have a right to asylum, then half the world also does

Those seeking asylum must prove that that they are escaping their homeland because of persecution due to race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.[9] The Immigration and Nationality Act explicitly provides these five bases for granting asylum,[10] having been heavily influenced by the 1951 United Nations Convention on the Status of Refugees.

Immigration Law: The Rules and Procedure for Asylum Seekers
you have to be a dumbshit to want your tax $$$$ wasted on this shit

Then change the friggin law and uit bichin

 

[ABikerSailor]

all the more reason to keep them out --DUH
if they have a right to asylum, then half the world also does

Those seeking asylum must prove that that they are escaping their homeland because of persecution due to race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.[9] The Immigration and Nationality Act explicitly provides these five bases for granting asylum,[10] having been heavily influenced by the 1951 United Nations Convention on the Status of Refugees.

Immigration Law: The Rules and Procedure for Asylum Seekers
you have to be a dumbshit to want your tax $$$$ wasted on this shit

Then change the friggin law and uit bichin

That's the problem. Congress has to change the law. Trump can't do it via EO.

 

[Wyatt earp]

all the more reason to keep them out --DUH
if they have a right to asylum, then half the world also does

Those seeking asylum must prove that that they are escaping their homeland because of persecution due to race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.[9] The Immigration and Nationality Act explicitly provides these five bases for granting asylum,[10] having been heavily influenced by the 1951 United Nations Convention on the Status of Refugees.

Immigration Law: The Rules and Procedure for Asylum Seekers
you have to be a dumbshit to want your tax $$$$ wasted on this shit

Then change the friggin law and uit bichin

That's the problem. Congress has to change the law. Trump can't do it via EO.

Then how did Obama do it with an EO ?


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[Darkwind]

apply at port of entry.

A port of entry is IN the US...and by law you must be granted a hearing

Asylum seekers and the solution...

 

[ABikerSailor]

all the more reason to keep them out --DUH
if they have a right to asylum, then half the world also does

Those seeking asylum must prove that that they are escaping their homeland because of persecution due to race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.[9] The Immigration and Nationality Act explicitly provides these five bases for granting asylum,[10] having been heavily influenced by the 1951 United Nations Convention on the Status of Refugees.

Immigration Law: The Rules and Procedure for Asylum Seekers
you have to be a dumbshit to want your tax $$$$ wasted on this shit

Then change the friggin law and uit bichin

That's the problem. Congress has to change the law. Trump can't do it via EO.

Then how did Obama do it with an EO ?


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Link?