Torture is wrong and unAmerican, nothing but neo-con filth

[nodoginnafight]

Denying the truth doesn't make it untrue.
But keep telling yourself whatever you have to in order to avoid the realization that your hide means more to you than protecting American ideals and principles.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

The far right and neo-cons torture America with their lies

Bush was never in the loop: Bloomberg View Op-ed: CIA torture report says Bush was kept in dark

Bloomberg View Op-ed CIA torture report says Bush was kept in dark The Salt Lake Tribune

CIA misled BYU grad who wrote memo used to justify torture program

Bloomberg View Op-ed CIA torture report says Bush was kept in dark The Salt Lake Tribune

View attachment 34852

so, if Americans used torture, then how is it unAmerican?

Because we say we're better than that, and we aren't, obviously.

I'm with you, I don't think you're better than anyone.

We are too good to waterboard to save lives. Shotting people from a drone, that's a different thing. Quite acceptable. And for the people near the target, quite unfortunate. But the price we must pay, so we won't worry about that.

Good god almighty..... Yeah, totally different and acceptable. Unfortunate for those poor people nearby. What a dumb fuck.

Well, dumb fuck, you don't know what my position is, you assumed it. You know the problem with assumptions? They make an ass out of you and me. More you.

So you're OK with killing people from drones? Ooops, did to you what you did to me... LOL.

I actually wouldn't be in the middle east doing either one.

My bad if that was sarcasm, Kaz. The tron can be difficult in that way from time to time.

 

[kaz]

so, if Americans used torture, then how is it unAmerican?

Because we say we're better than that, and we aren't, obviously.

I'm with you, I don't think you're better than anyone.

We are too good to waterboard to save lives. Shotting people from a drone, that's a different thing. Quite acceptable. And for the people near the target, quite unfortunate. But the price we must pay, so we won't worry about that.

Good god almighty..... Yeah, totally different and acceptable. Unfortunate for those poor people nearby. What a dumb fuck.

Well, dumb fuck, you don't know what my position is, you assumed it. You know the problem with assumptions? They make an ass out of you and me. More you.

So you're OK with killing people from drones? Ooops, did to you what you did to me... LOL.

I actually wouldn't be in the middle east doing either one.

My bad if that was sarcasm, Kaz. The tron can be difficult in that way from time to time.

We are good!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The far right and neo-cons torture America with their lies

Bush was never in the loop: Bloomberg View Op-ed: CIA torture report says Bush was kept in dark

Bloomberg View Op-ed CIA torture report says Bush was kept in dark The Salt Lake Tribune

CIA misled BYU grad who wrote memo used to justify torture program

Bloomberg View Op-ed CIA torture report says Bush was kept in dark The Salt Lake Tribune

View attachment 34852

The silly repubLIEcan't bashes republicans but forgets this was also happening under obama.

 

[strollingbones]

o my i expected something a little more partisan from ya nc....but you do have a point....nothing has changed just the public is finding out but there will be another distraction to keep anyone from caring...after all remember the veterans hospitals and that scandal well it must have been solved we dont hear about it any more

 

[JakeStarkey]

The far right and neo-cons torture America with their lies

Bush was never in the loop: Bloomberg View Op-ed: CIA torture report says Bush was kept in dark

Bloomberg View Op-ed CIA torture report says Bush was kept in dark The Salt Lake Tribune

CIA misled BYU grad who wrote memo used to justify torture program

Bloomberg View Op-ed CIA torture report says Bush was kept in dark The Salt Lake Tribune

View attachment 34852

The silly repubLIEcan't bashes republicans but forgets this was also happening under obama.

Prove it, Sweet Cheeks. The above says you wrong.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The far right and neo-cons torture America with their lies

Bush was never in the loop: Bloomberg View Op-ed: CIA torture report says Bush was kept in dark

Bloomberg View Op-ed CIA torture report says Bush was kept in dark The Salt Lake Tribune

CIA misled BYU grad who wrote memo used to justify torture program

Bloomberg View Op-ed CIA torture report says Bush was kept in dark The Salt Lake Tribune

View attachment 34852

The silly repubLIEcan't bashes republicans but forgets this was also happening under obama.

Prove it, Sweet Cheeks. The above says you wrong.

Prove what?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Now you are also stupid?

OK, if you insist on showing your ass, tight cheeks.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Reactionary Jake jumping the shark to defend Obama. Torture is wrong but he defends killing a 16 year old American kid with a drone strike

 

[nodoginnafight]

The far right and neo-cons torture America with their lies

Bush was never in the loop: Bloomberg View Op-ed: CIA torture report says Bush was kept in dark

Bloomberg View Op-ed CIA torture report says Bush was kept in dark The Salt Lake Tribune

CIA misled BYU grad who wrote memo used to justify torture program

Bloomberg View Op-ed CIA torture report says Bush was kept in dark The Salt Lake Tribune

View attachment 34852

The silly repubLIEcan't bashes republicans but forgets this was also happening under obama.

Prove it, Sweet Cheeks. The above says you wrong.

Prove what?

Prove what you claimed. Do you really not understand that?

 

[JakeStarkey]

The religious and neo-con filth and their defenses remain abominable.

Bush will never to Europe again. None of his neo-con filth advisers will. Up to 30 CIA folks will rot in European jails, if they go to Europe.

And no one in the American government, GOP or Dem, will lift a finger to help them.

you are a pathetic little democrat Tapatalk

Says the far right thug.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

...We hung others for it actually, but it's okay now it seems, for them and for us. Happy days.

I'm pretty sure that 'torture' was not the cause of those death-sentences in the 1940s.

Rather, it probably had something to do with genocide -caliber mass-murder.

Torture was certainly on the menu of charges but I don't remember anybody being hung simply because of it, stand-alone, without murder being involved.

Torture was more like the condiments on a hot-dog rather than Main Course.

No, torture, which is a war-crime, is what they were charged with, and waterboarding was on the list. Look it up.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

We were wrong to engage in many of the interrogation tactics that we used in the months and years following 9-11.

This is borne out by the lackluster results obtained and their relative insignificance in comparison to the PR (image) hit that we are taking (again).

We need to do a better job of culling the herd to determine those most likely to succumb to more conventional interrogation techniques.

And shoot the rest.

Line em up against a wall and ask "Who's going to talk?"
No one answers ya shoot the first one. Pretty sure you'd have more conversationalist than you knew what to do with in short order.

As long as you don't mind them doing just that to US soldiers? Well, do you?

Better a quick bullet rather than beheading.

So you don't mind then?

 

[JakeStarkey]

We all know everyone of the far right thugs are cowards, so no big deal what they say at all.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Now you are also stupid?

OK, if you insist on showing your ass, tight cheeks.

You of all idiots don't deserve an answer. Just realize you self proclaiming RepubLIEcan't you're bashing republicans for something that happened also while obama is president.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

We all know everyone of the far right thugs are cowards, so no big deal what they say at all.

Talk about coward, you are too fucking scared to admit that you are a liberal. Now that's being a coward.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Now you are also stupid?

OK, if you insist on showing your ass, tight cheeks.

You of all idiots don't deserve an answer. Just realize you self proclaiming RepubLIEcan't you're bashing republicans for something that happened also while obama is president.

McCain on Torture: A Stain on our National Honor, Produces Misleading Info [URL='http://www.juancole.com/2014/12/national-produces-misleading.html']Dec. 10, 2014[/URL]

“As the Senate Intelligence Committee’s CIA torture report roiled Capitol Hill Tuesday, Sen. John McCain framed the argument as one of moral clarity, all the while bumping up against his party leaders.

“I rise in support of the release, the long-delayed release of the Senate Intelligence Committee’s summarized, unclassified review of the so-called enhanced interrogation techniques that were employed by the previous administration to extract information from captured terrorists,” the Arizona Republican said on the Senate floor. “I believe the American people have a right, indeed responsibility, to know what was done in their name, how these practices did or did not serve our interests, and how they comported with our most important values.”

 

[jc456]

Actually you are willing to let others die for what you believe.

Yep, just like the Founders, who went to war. Do you oppose all war because others will die fighting for what you believe? I am willing to die for my convictions, and I am willing to see others die for the same. They are that good and I have no problems living with said thing.

Mighty white of you, although I KNOW you would be the first to bitch if the government didn't do all it could to protect you. You want government to enforce you morality on others, so I call you a FUCKING LIAR when it comes to this.

Deal with it, you pretentious twat.

I want the government to enforce our mutual morality, and you inability to deal with reality I cannot help. I'm lying about nothing at all. The government cannot protect you, they can only try. Shit will still happen, count on it.

And you don't "know" anything, which is what makes you so useless and immoral.

So basically you prefer a government that beats up on its own citizens. Fascist.

Beats up? No little drama queen, I want a government that enforces our mutual morality, the one that starts with don't lie (in transactions), steal, cheat, rape, murder, etc. I know, how radical of me...

morality? Let's see where that paper is at. again, because you're a goody-to-shoe, doesn't mean we all are. And you want us all to just get along right? The heck with that ISIS is beheading that doesn't mean we have to react or anything because we're too moral because of the likes of you. I have a 180 degree difference to this than you. accept it jack!

 

[TakeAStepBack]

The far right and neo-cons torture America with their lies

Bush was never in the loop: Bloomberg View Op-ed: CIA torture report says Bush was kept in dark

Bloomberg View Op-ed CIA torture report says Bush was kept in dark The Salt Lake Tribune

CIA misled BYU grad who wrote memo used to justify torture program

Bloomberg View Op-ed CIA torture report says Bush was kept in dark The Salt Lake Tribune

View attachment 34852

The silly repubLIEcan't bashes republicans but forgets this was also happening under obama.

Prove it, Sweet Cheeks. The above says you wrong.

Prove what?

Prove what you claimed. Do you really not understand that?

Does The CIA Still Torture Suspects Senate Report Raises Questions About Obama Administration Policies

Despite Obama’s 2009 executive order banning the use of torture by the CIA and the subsequent closing of the agency’s black sites, loopholes remain in place that allow for such practices to continue in certain circumstances, said Dr. Rebecca Gordon, a lecturer in philosophy at the University of San Francisco in California and the author of a book on U.S. torture in the post-9/11 era. “The executive order didn't touch any other agencies, and that particularly includes the Joint Special Operations Command, which ran its own secret detention sites,” she said. The clandestine force of the U.S. military continues to operate around the world and has been used more aggressively in the past decade than ever before, according to Business Insider.

 

[jc456]

So basically we question terrorists with the soft pillow and the comfy chair?

We give them full Constitutional rights

The Constitution is a bitch isn't it?

They are not Americans retard

Tapatalk

he just keeps gettinghit with a stupid stick.

 

[jc456]

PMH is absolutely right on this, and MB is flatly wrong: morally, spiritually, legally.

People who are too terrified to stand up for any principles are not necessarily immoral imho.

your principles? no, you stand up for mine!