"Transgendered" Bathrooms

[Vandalshandle]

Discrimination of any kind, even sexual is discrimination.

................and its wrong

That's absurd

. I know right... So if a person makes a sexual advance, and a person refuses that advance, does it mean now that a person is being discriminating towards the person who is making the advance ? Can the person under Aris2chat's ideology or perception of discrimination, protect all sorts of bad based upon her broad brushing of what discrimination in her mind should stand for ? Is this what a liberal thinks or how their mind works you think ? If so then you are spot on with your word obsurd used in your comment. Thanks.

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There is an 88% chance that transgenders will be the victim of crime
50% chance transgender will be victim of sexual violence

Of the general population, those under 20, there is a 71% of being assaulted.

Stop presupposing transgenders will commit a crime in a bathroom, they are more likely to be the victims.

You want to protect children and young adults, look to heteros that are committing the crimes.

Will men try to sneak into a bathroom, they do that already. Has nothing to do with transgenders.

Keep them out of the bathrooms will eliminate assaults.

Most young people are victims of those they know or their own family, not transgenders

If transgenders have been using the bathroom without incident, why make an issue of it now by denying them their rights?

Hate

Because the City of Charlotte sanctioned invasion of privacy.

Thanks for asking.

Who faces more incidents of attack? Trangenders or women? That would be an interesting statistic to find out.

Let's not forget, that transgenders are a lot of time "attacked" because they lead risky lifestyles, drug addiction, etc.

Well, now, you learn something every day! Trassexuals are drug addicts! Not only that, they live risky lifestyles! Obviously, some of us know a lot of trasnsexuals and have an inside trqck of their lifestyles! I'm wondering if those things are part of why high school trasexuals get harrassed, or do they have to wait until they are out of puberty to get addicted to drugs and dangerous lifestyles...

It is just a matter of time before someone finds Bruce Jenner crumpled up unconscious in an ally with a heroine needle in his arm, and a cardboard sign pleading for spare change to use for medical expenses to fight his AIDS!

 

[Coyote]

The government really has no right to even address the toileting of individuals nor assign the level of privacy that the government thinks the people deserve.

These kinds of kingly decrees have to be slapped down, hard.

It is addressing the discrimination and segregation of transgenders not being accepted as their identity.

There is no right to have one's perception of reality accepted by all as their reality. Transgenders have never been segregated. They have not been discriminated any more than anyone who claims to be the Queen of Sheba, or God. We don't provide public litterboxes for those who believe themselves to be cats.

They aren't delusional or psychotic, so the comparison sucks.

Maybe not psychotic, but definitely delusional. To focus on your genitals and your gender to such an extent is a sign of a mental illness.

It's not the genitals, it's the whole package of their identity including being treated as that sex. Some can't afford the SRS but they change what they can. It is a process not walk-in and walk-out totally a new sex.

The focus is on the identity, not the genitals

Exactly. I have a friend who is a trans woman and it's a long process, and her life has been particularly painful, she has a lot of social phobias as a result. Insurance doesn't always cover the SRS, and it's a big step - it's not undertaken lightly, and there's a long period of evaluation leading up to it. Bathrooms are such a small thing we can do to accommodate them. They aren't criminals for God's sakes. Nor is it a "choice".

 

[Coyote]

They aren't delusional or psychotic, so the comparison sucks.

By definition, one who believes something that is, as a matter of direct observable and provable fact, false, is delusional. For example, a man who believes he is a woman, in spite of the obvious physical proof that he is a man.

For that matter, someone who denies that a man who thinks he is a woman is delusional, is also probably delusional. The very essence of delusional is the denial of what is obvious and indisputable reality.

That would work except we've discovered that gender identity doesn't always equal biological assignment - it's far more complex and seems to be something hardwired in a person.

What's obvious isn't always obvious. Is it a monarch or a viceroy...a bee or one of a number of fly species that mimic bees?

 

[beagle9]

It is addressing the discrimination and segregation of transgenders not being accepted as their identity.

There is no right to have one's perception of reality accepted by all as their reality. Transgenders have never been segregated. They have not been discriminated any more than anyone who claims to be the Queen of Sheba, or God. We don't provide public litterboxes for those who believe themselves to be cats.

They aren't delusional or psychotic, so the comparison sucks.

Maybe not psychotic, but definitely delusional. To focus on your genitals and your gender to such an extent is a sign of a mental illness.

It's not the genitals, it's the whole package of their identity including being treated as that sex. Some can't afford the SRS but they change what they can. It is a process not walk-in and walk-out totally a new sex.

The focus is on the identity, not the genitals

Exactly. I have a friend who is a trans woman and it's a long process, and her life has been particularly painful, she has a lot of social phobias as a result. Insurance doesn't always cover the SRS, and it's a big step - it's not undertaken lightly, and there's a long period of evaluation leading up to it. Bathrooms are such a small thing we can do to accommodate them. They aren't criminals for God's sakes. Nor is it a "choice".

. How did they go to the restrooms before ? It's just part of an overall agenda is what it all is, and trannies are up to bat. If it ain't marriage with these groups, then it's wedding cakes or photography, fast food resteraunts, and now restrooms ? When will it end, when they have pushed those who oppose these encroachments into the abyss ?

 

[beagle9]

They aren't delusional or psychotic, so the comparison sucks.

By definition, one who believes something that is, as a matter of direct observable and provable fact, false, is delusional. For example, a man who believes he is a woman, in spite of the obvious physical proof that he is a man.

For that matter, someone who denies that a man who thinks he is a woman is delusional, is also probably delusional. The very essence of delusional is the denial of what is obvious and indisputable reality.

That would work except we've discovered that gender identity doesn't always equal biological assignment - it's far more complex and seems to be something hardwired in a person.

What's obvious isn't always obvious. Is it a monarch or a viceroy...a bee or one of a number of fly species that mimic bees?

. Humans aren't animals, so the comparisons don't work.

 

[Fang]

Just make all bathrooms co-ed and it will not matter anymore..

Or if you have a fucking package hanging between your legs go in the mens room.

 

[beagle9]

Just make all bathrooms co-ed and it will not matter anymore..

Or if you have a fucking package hanging between your legs go in the mens room.

. Kosh might wish it would go co-ed, but it ain't happening. The generations aren't ready for this, and they never will be. Why ? Because it's not right, therefore it will fail.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Conservatives, on the wrong side of history since slavery, including women suffrage, state VS church issues, women's equality, racial discrimination, gay rights, and now transgender issues. I think that I could get rich if I started selling clocks to them that run backwards....

 

[percysunshine]

Conservatives, on the wrong side of history since slavery, including women suffrage, state VS church issues, women's equality, racial discrimination, gay rights, and now transgender issues. I think that I could get rich if I started selling clocks to them that run backwards....

500 years ago, men peed standing up, and women peed sitting down.

Not much has changed.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Conservatives, on the wrong side of history since slavery, including women suffrage, state VS church issues, women's equality, racial discrimination, gay rights, and now transgender issues. I think that I could get rich if I started selling clocks to them that run backwards....

500 years ago, men peed standing up, and women peed sitting down.

Not much has changed.

...and until the mid 1880's, there was no such thing as a sexually segregated restroom in this country....

 

[beagle9]

Conservatives, on the wrong side of history since slavery, including women suffrage, state VS church issues, women's equality, racial discrimination, gay rights, and now transgender issues. I think that I could get rich if I started selling clocks to them that run backwards....

. Some history needed tweaking through out time of course, but some things won't ever change, and that's a fact. Now there can be a build up in the pressure cooker of history over time, and if not careful the pressure cooker will blow sooner or later. You have listed some of the ingredients in the pressure cooker that have been in an unstable flux lately or is out of balance lately, and it just depends on who is pushing the buttons as to how hot it can get on these issues.

 

[percysunshine]

Conservatives, on the wrong side of history since slavery, including women suffrage, state VS church issues, women's equality, racial discrimination, gay rights, and now transgender issues. I think that I could get rich if I started selling clocks to them that run backwards....

500 years ago, men peed standing up, and women peed sitting down.

Not much has changed.

...and until the mid 1880's, there was no such thing as a sexually segregated restroom in this country....

Outhouses were functional, but not very hygenic.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Send a letter to Kim Davis. She will do something about it, I'm sure.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Conservatives, on the wrong side of history since slavery, including women suffrage, state VS church issues, women's equality, racial discrimination, gay rights, and now transgender issues. I think that I could get rich if I started selling clocks to them that run backwards....

500 years ago, men peed standing up, and women peed sitting down.

Not much has changed.

...and until the mid 1880's, there was no such thing as a sexually segregated restroom in this country....

Outhouses were functional, but not very hygienic.

And I am so glad that the Right is taking a strong stand against outdoor privies.

 

[percysunshine]

Conservatives, on the wrong side of history since slavery, including women suffrage, state VS church issues, women's equality, racial discrimination, gay rights, and now transgender issues. I think that I could get rich if I started selling clocks to them that run backwards....

500 years ago, men peed standing up, and women peed sitting down.

Not much has changed.

...and until the mid 1880's, there was no such thing as a sexually segregated restroom in this country....

Outhouses were functional, but not very hygienic.

And I am so glad that the Right is taking a strong stand against outdoor privies.

.
You seem to have a low bar for gratuitous gestures.

 

[aris2chat]

That's absurd

. I know right... So if a person makes a sexual advance, and a person refuses that advance, does it mean now that a person is being discriminating towards the person who is making the advance ? Can the person under Aris2chat's ideology or perception of discrimination, protect all sorts of bad based upon her broad brushing of what discrimination in her mind should stand for ? Is this what a liberal thinks or how their mind works you think ? If so then you are spot on with your word obsurd used in your comment. Thanks.

As far as I can tell, there is no right "to make a sexual advance" period. Why would allowing transgender people to use the appropriate bathroom change that?

. What part of the risk factor involved do you all not understand ? Trannies were using the restrooms with no issues as you all say in the past, but then the government wants to stick it's ignorant nose into something that wasn't broken as you all say it wasn't, and now it's created a situation that puts the predators to thinking hey I got an idea. Next thing you know there are peds and preds trying to pose as what ever the government deems worthy of it's protections and law in order to infiltrate the situation, and so next your child is having to deal with a perpetrator posing as a trannie in which the government can't protect them from. No one is willing to accommodate the government telling us what to do, if the risk factors are far to great. Further more, do you think that because a person is a trannie, that they can't be bad people also? Trying to inject something into something that wasn't broken in and around the restrooms, is going to cause a dis-trust of the public, and a huge blow back. The people see it all as an agenda being pushed, and it will fail.

Does anyone thing that because people post here and use avatars "that they can't be bad people"

Anyone shopping, walking down the street, sitting on a bus, working in a factory.........

Stop trying to defame all transsexuals for the acts of heteros or a small portion of LGBT in risky areas.

They want to be normal people and treated as their identity. Keeping them on the fringes of society and reviled by some groups and bullied is what drives them to drugs, risky behavior and self abuse.

They are just people equal to everyone else with the same rights. Quit trying to shove them into jail or into the gutter for being themselves.

They aren't going to be by getting surgery and taking hormones! What don't you get about that? They are NOT women if they have an XY chromosome. They are not MEN if they have an XX chromosome. You are what you are, and if you cannot deal with what you are and be happy with that, then you need to have therapy!

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[aris2chat]

Slicing up a perfectly healthy body in the name of a delusion is .. . . delusional! It's PC gone insane!! Stop with the insanity already!

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Body integrity identity disorder is a psychological disorder in which an otherwise healthy individual feels that they are meant to be disabled. It is not medically recognized by the American Psychiatric Association's DSM-5. BIID is related to xenomelia, "the dysphoric feeling that one or more limbs of ... They may try to injure themselves to require the amputation of that limb.
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[JimBowie1958]

It is amazing how libtards will talk all around the simple FACT that most Americans will NEVER accept grown men in women's dresses going into the bathroom or looker room shower with their daughter.

These people are sick, twisted fucktards

 

[aris2chat]

That's absurd

. I know right... So if a person makes a sexual advance, and a person refuses that advance, does it mean now that a person is being discriminating towards the person who is making the advance ? Can the person under Aris2chat's ideology or perception of discrimination, protect all sorts of bad based upon her broad brushing of what discrimination in her mind should stand for ? Is this what a liberal thinks or how their mind works you think ? If so then you are spot on with your word obsurd used in your comment. Thanks.

As far as I can tell, there is no right "to make a sexual advance" period. Why would allowing transgender people to use the appropriate bathroom change that?

. What part of the risk factor involved do you all not understand ? Trannies were using the restrooms with no issues as you all say in the past, but then the government wants to stick it's ignorant nose into something that wasn't broken as you all say it wasn't, and now it's created a situation that puts the predators to thinking hey I got an idea. Next thing you know there are peds and preds trying to pose as what ever the government deems worthy of it's protections and law in order to infiltrate the situation, and so next your child is having to deal with a perpetrator posing as a trannie in which the government can't protect them from. No one is willing to accommodate the government telling us what to do, if the risk factors are far to great. Further more, do you think that because a person is a trannie, that they can't be bad people also? Trying to inject something into something that wasn't broken in and around the restrooms, is going to cause a dis-trust of the public, and a huge blow back. The people see it all as an agenda being pushed, and it will fail.

Does anyone thing that because people post here and use avatars "that they can't be bad people"

Anyone shopping, walking down the street, sitting on a bus, working in a factory.........

Stop trying to defame all transsexuals for the acts of heteros or a small portion of LGBT in risky areas.

They want to be normal people and treated as their identity. Keeping them on the fringes of society and reviled by some groups and bullied is what drives them to drugs, risky behavior and self abuse.

They are just people equal to everyone else with the same rights. Quit trying to shove them into jail or into the gutter for being themselves.

. And there is the agenda folks.... You see, we are talking about something specific that involves children or others who value their up bringings, their religious beliefs, their secular beliefs, their born with instincts, and their privacy when it comes to using a restroom peacefully, secure and safely. You are trying to move the goal post when a post is written in which your wiggle room is greatly diminished.

What are you going to say to children when they go to a Burger King with a 15 person sauna inside?

 

[aris2chat]

It is amazing how libtards will talk all around the simple FACT that most Americans will NEVER accept grown men in women's dresses going into the bathroom or looker room shower with their daughter.

These people are sick, twisted fucktards

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