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Of course it was premeditated ... the moment Travis cocked the shotgun showed intent to use it. Intent shows premeditation.It wasn’t pre-meditated there was no malice it was simple self-defense number maybe manslaughterNo, because he's a murderer.Why because of the color of his skin?Now Travis will get what he deserves...Why are you posting polling data? Lol the boy got what he deserved.As he comes at me flying with his fist I open fire to protect myself that is my right
Pause the video, take a snapshot of the frame from where you think you see AA flying at TM with flying fists BEFORE TM opened fire and shot AA in the chest. And post it
here’s TrumpO’s 538 poll numbersView attachment 350995
Lol WTF! If you cock shotgun that means you want to kill somebody.. WTFOf course it was premeditated ... the moment Travis cocked the shotgun showed intent to use it. Intent shows premeditation.It wasn’t pre-meditated there was no malice it was simple self-defense number maybe manslaughterNo, because he's a murderer.Why because of the color of his skin?Now Travis will get what he deserves...Why are you posting polling data? Lol the boy got what he deserved.As he comes at me flying with his fist I open fire to protect myself that is my right
Pause the video, take a snapshot of the frame from where you think you see AA flying at TM with flying fists BEFORE TM opened fire and shot AA in the chest. And post it
here’s TrumpO’s 538 poll numbersView attachment 350995
He didn't have time. It was only a matter of seconds when Arbery had reached his truck.Than he could have ran to a different angle,, and he didn’tCouldn't happen at a distance because Bryan was behind Arbery and risked being shot.No one told arbery to attack him he was just holding a gun asking him to stop, if he was going to shoot it would have happened at a distanceSelf defense against someone threatening someone else's life with a lethal weapon is often savage. It's self preservation.Savage physical attackAre you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B
what violent crime did TM see AA commit that day?
It wasn’t pre-meditated there was no malice it was simple self-defense number maybe manslaughterNo, because he's a murderer.Why because of the color of his skin?Now Travis will get what he deserves...Why are you posting polling data? Lol the boy got what he deserved.As he comes at me flying with his fist I open fire to protect myself that is my right
Pause the video, take a snapshot of the frame from where you think you see AA flying at TM with flying fists BEFORE TM opened fire and shot AA in the chest. And post it
here’s TrumpO’s 538 poll numbersView attachment 350995
Where did I say the investigation is complete??Oh they are done with their investigation? Wow how comeI know he was on that property multiple times and never took anything. So I don't see an intent to steal.What was he doing in the house, you know his intentions?No, he couldn't have been running from a possible felony since he had not committed a felony.Well he’s running from a possible felony, and he running right at him with fist flyingWhere is the proof that the person you're pointing your weapon at, Person B, is either violent or a criminal?Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B
They aren’t at trial? Lol
He was holding a gun asking the suspect to wait for cops.. OHHH NOOO THAT OFFENSIVE LOLThe arms and legs belonged to Travis McMichael, who brandished a firearm in a failed attempt to persuade Arbery to get down on the ground.Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? LolAs Arbery approached thd truck.And when did that happen?It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good niteThat's not a definition so let's try this.The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.How are you defining "aggressor
Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.
Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?
LOLOLOLHe’s probably talking to a agent lolYeah, I'm sure Travis is laughing about that at this very minute.Now that’s funny haTravis wasn't trying to stop a criminal, he was trying to stop a jogger.What’s wrong with trying to stop a criminal with verbal commands? Did it hurt his feelings?LOLOLSelf defense of what? No one was stopping himso what? all of that is true. So what? doesn't change the fact the black dude bull rushed Travis. just doesn't. That is in the video.they said he did what?What is it you claim Travis did?Naw. You should watch closerThe video shows AA the aggressor.But the video doesn't show what happened at the front of the vehicle because the vehicle itself is obscuring the view.Never happened. I watched the video.
Absent the ability to view that segment of the video, the gap is filled in by questioning one of the two parties who were involved in the shooting. Because Arbery is deceased that only leaves Travis McMichael's although the father if he was in the bed of the trunk may have been able to view what transpired, however I don't recall him providing corrobarating testimony in support of your allegation that Arbery attacked first and that Travis was only defending himself (actually this point is moot because it's already been established that the McMichael's were the aggressors since they chased down Arbery)
How is it possible that you watched a video and saw something on it that isn't there?
No sir. It does not. It clearly shows Travis committing Aggravated Assault. It means the death must be Murder. No other option exists in law.
I have watched it very closely. As I said. Travis definitely commits the act of Aggravated Assault. That crime means that Travis is the criminal. AA’s death is the result of a criminal action.
Look. It is how we deal with every death. Let’s say someone robs a store. The clerk panics and tries to rush out of the store, slips and hits his head. He dies from the fall. Since he died while a crime was being committed the death is automatically a Murder.
It is not just what I claim he did. It is what the Prosecutor and GBI investigators say he did. It is what Greg’s lawyer says Travis did. And it is what Roddy’s lawyer says he did. So everyone involved except Travis.
BTW, the Roddy guy didn't see shit.
There is more than one minute of video. The Lawyers in the hearing said what I said they did.
Roddy’s lawyer said Roddy did not know the McMichaels were acting illegally. Roddy’s lawyer acknowledged that the McMichaels were acting in violation of the law.
Greg’s lawyer said that Greg was there talking to police and trying to keep AA in sight and had no idea that Travis was going to shoot. Greg is claiming he had nothing to do with it.
So if two lawyers say that Greg murdered AA and they are co defendants why are you having trouble with it?
the black dude tried to take the gun, right?
In a manner of speaking. Yes. He attacked in self defense after minutes of being chased by criminals including a hit and run accident.
Dumbfuck... the guy who parked his car in the middle of a road, got out armed with a shotgun and ordered Arbery to get on the ground -- was trying to stop him.
You must be the most ignorant poster on this forum to not understand that.
3 steps, a southerner with a shot gun would have nailed they boy East.. but there was NO INTENTION TO KILL . It was clear self defenseHe didn't have time. It was only a matter of seconds when Arbery had reached his truck.Than he could have ran to a different angle,, and he didn’tCouldn't happen at a distance because Bryan was behind Arbery and risked being shot.No one told arbery to attack him he was just holding a gun asking him to stop, if he was going to shoot it would have happened at a distanceSelf defense against someone threatening someone else's life with a lethal weapon is often savage. It's self preservation.Savage physical attackAre you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B
what violent crime did TM see AA commit that day?
He had no legal right to do that.He was holding a gun asking the suspect to wait for cops.. OHHH NOOO THAT OFFENSIVE LOLThe arms and legs belonged to Travis McMichael, who brandished a firearm in a failed attempt to persuade Arbery to get down on the ground.Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? LolAs Arbery approached thd truck.And when did that happen?It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good niteThat's not a definition so let's try this.The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.How are you defining "aggressor
Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.
Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?
No, it means you are considering firing it.Lol WTF! If you cock shotgun that means you want to kill somebody.. WTFOf course it was premeditated ... the moment Travis cocked the shotgun showed intent to use it. Intent shows premeditation.It wasn’t pre-meditated there was no malice it was simple self-defense number maybe manslaughterNo, because he's a murderer.Why because of the color of his skin?Now Travis will get what he deserves...Why are you posting polling data? Lol the boy got what he deserved.As he comes at me flying with his fist I open fire to protect myself that is my right
Pause the video, take a snapshot of the frame from where you think you see AA flying at TM with flying fists BEFORE TM opened fire and shot AA in the chest. And post it
here’s TrumpO’s 538 poll numbersView attachment 350995
Of course it was premeditated ... the moment Travis cocked the shotgun showed intent to use it. Intent shows premeditation.It wasn’t pre-meditated there was no malice it was simple self-defense number maybe manslaughterNo, because he's a murderer.Why because of the color of his skin?Now Travis will get what he deserves...Why are you posting polling data? Lol the boy got what he deserved.As he comes at me flying with his fist I open fire to protect myself that is my right
Pause the video, take a snapshot of the frame from where you think you see AA flying at TM with flying fists BEFORE TM opened fire and shot AA in the chest. And post it
here’s TrumpO’s 538 poll numbersView attachment 350995
Where did you see an attempted to arrest him? The father was in the truck on the phone with the cops, why wouldn’t he get out and take down the the boy?It wasn’t pre-meditated there was no malice it was simple self-defense number maybe manslaughterNo, because he's a murderer.Why because of the color of his skin?Now Travis will get what he deserves...Why are you posting polling data? Lol the boy got what he deserved.As he comes at me flying with his fist I open fire to protect myself that is my right
Pause the video, take a snapshot of the frame from where you think you see AA flying at TM with flying fists BEFORE TM opened fire and shot AA in the chest. And post it
here’s TrumpO’s 538 poll numbersView attachment 350995
False. He committed a felony ( false imprisonment) which led to a homicide. That's murder 2nd degree.
Travis forfeited his right to engage in lethal self-defense.3 steps, a southerner with a shot gun would have nailed they boy East.. but there was NO INTENTION TO KILL . It was clear self defenseHe didn't have time. It was only a matter of seconds when Arbery had reached his truck.Than he could have ran to a different angle,, and he didn’tCouldn't happen at a distance because Bryan was behind Arbery and risked being shot.No one told arbery to attack him he was just holding a gun asking him to stop, if he was going to shoot it would have happened at a distanceSelf defense against someone threatening someone else's life with a lethal weapon is often savage. It's self preservation.Savage physical attackAre you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B
what violent crime did TM see AA commit that day?
Well you should wait for it to be over before you claim nothing was stolen, pipes were stolen a neighboring property had tools stolen from his truck.. This guy was a menace to the neighborhood he was a terroristWhere did I say the investigation is complete??Oh they are done with their investigation? Wow how comeI know he was on that property multiple times and never took anything. So I don't see an intent to steal.What was he doing in the house, you know his intentions?No, he couldn't have been running from a possible felony since he had not committed a felony.Well he’s running from a possible felony, and he running right at him with fist flyingWhere is the proof that the person you're pointing your weapon at, Person B, is either violent or a criminal?Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B
They aren’t at trial? Lol
They cut him off because they were trying to detain him.Where did you see an attempted to arrest him? The father was in the truck on the phone with the cops, why wouldn’t he get out and take down the the boy?It wasn’t pre-meditated there was no malice it was simple self-defense number maybe manslaughterNo, because he's a murderer.Why because of the color of his skin?Now Travis will get what he deserves...Why are you posting polling data? Lol the boy got what he deserved.As he comes at me flying with his fist I open fire to protect myself that is my right
Pause the video, take a snapshot of the frame from where you think you see AA flying at TM with flying fists BEFORE TM opened fire and shot AA in the chest. And post it
here’s TrumpO’s 538 poll numbersView attachment 350995
False. He committed a felony ( false imprisonment) which led to a homicide. That's murder 2nd degree.
Asking him to wait is against the law? Lol well give him that fine haHe had no legal right to do that.He was holding a gun asking the suspect to wait for cops.. OHHH NOOO THAT OFFENSIVE LOLThe arms and legs belonged to Travis McMichael, who brandished a firearm in a failed attempt to persuade Arbery to get down on the ground.Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? LolAs Arbery approached thd truck.And when did that happen?It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good niteThat's not a definition so let's try this.The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.How are you defining "aggressor
Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.
Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?
Why because he’s white?Travis forfeited his right to engage in lethal self-defense.3 steps, a southerner with a shot gun would have nailed they boy East.. but there was NO INTENTION TO KILL . It was clear self defenseHe didn't have time. It was only a matter of seconds when Arbery had reached his truck.Than he could have ran to a different angle,, and he didn’tCouldn't happen at a distance because Bryan was behind Arbery and risked being shot.No one told arbery to attack him he was just holding a gun asking him to stop, if he was going to shoot it would have happened at a distanceSelf defense against someone threatening someone else's life with a lethal weapon is often savage. It's self preservation.Savage physical attackAre you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B
what violent crime did TM see AA commit that day?
LOLOLWell you should wait for it to be over before you claim nothing was stolen, pipes were stolen a neighboring property had tools stolen from his truck.. This guy was a menace to the neighborhood he was a terroristWhere did I say the investigation is complete??Oh they are done with their investigation? Wow how comeI know he was on that property multiple times and never took anything. So I don't see an intent to steal.What was he doing in the house, you know his intentions?No, he couldn't have been running from a possible felony since he had not committed a felony.Well he’s running from a possible felony, and he running right at him with fist flyingWhere is the proof that the person you're pointing your weapon at, Person B, is either violent or a criminal?Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B
They aren’t at trial? Lol
Did the car grow hand cuffs?? Wow that’s a cool carThey cut him off because they were trying to detain him.Where did you see an attempted to arrest him? The father was in the truck on the phone with the cops, why wouldn’t he get out and take down the the boy?It wasn’t pre-meditated there was no malice it was simple self-defense number maybe manslaughterNo, because he's a murderer.Why because of the color of his skin?Now Travis will get what he deserves...Why are you posting polling data? Lol the boy got what he deserved.As he comes at me flying with his fist I open fire to protect myself that is my right
Pause the video, take a snapshot of the frame from where you think you see AA flying at TM with flying fists BEFORE TM opened fire and shot AA in the chest. And post it
here’s TrumpO’s 538 poll numbersView attachment 350995
False. He committed a felony ( false imprisonment) which led to a homicide. That's murder 2nd degree.
Did you forget that the video exists, where we see he clearly pivots to attach the guy?
