“Travis told police Arbery “squared up” like he was going to attack.” So he shot him in the chest.

[ColtMadeMenEqual]

Arbery did not attack Travis per Travis until after Arbery was shot and wounded in the chest.

I’m asking the following question of all those who have sworn in the name of Trump that they saw Amaud Arbery, on the video, attack a hero first and then they can hear the first shot being fired.

Do you accept the testimony from Travis McMichael that he shot and wounded an unarmed man in the chest at polnt blank range because the unarmed jogger “squared up” like he was going to attack.”

Travus told police that the unarmed man he was confronting and trying to detain did not attack him before he was wounded in the chest by the first

According to reports from the preliminary hearing we learned yesterday that: “Travis told police Arbery “squared up” like he was going to attack.” So he shot him in the chest.

And we learned exactly where the two men were according to the man who had his finger on the trigger when the the first shot wounded an unarmed man In his chest.

“That’s when Arbery ran around the passenger side of Travis’ truck, and the two men met in front of it.”

So is this true or false or fake news:


“That’s when Arbery ran around the passenger side of Travis’ truck, and the two men met in front of it. Dial said Travis told police Arbery “squared up” like he was going to attack. He said Travis then fired the first shot into Arbery’s chest.”

Man 'used racial slur' after shooting black jogger - BBC News

A judge has ruled that there is enough evidence to try three suspects for Ahmaud Arbery's murder.

www.google.com

Can any of you who thought they saw on the video TravisM being attacked first and a struggle for shotgun starts and the heard the first shot go off reply to this thread and admit you were wrong based on what you hero murderer told police about the ambush and murder of an unarmed man who was jogging on a public street.

Did you forget that the video exists, where we see he clearly pivots to attach the guy?

Communist propaganda.

He pivoted to attack the guy who had been menacing him with a firearm. He was righteously in fear of his life.

Yeah... criminals are always in fear of their lives after caught from a crime.

So tired of this far left / conservative nonsense. It's not like there are not thousands upon thousands of examples where this same thing happens with cops. One just in the last few days.

Of what crime was Arbery caught??

Burglary.

Prove it....

The odds are...
1) He was afraid and thought it was a lynching squad.
2) He knew what he had done and tried to resist arrest.

Sorry, there is only one correct option here. I don't deal with 60 IQ retards.

This was in no way a lawful attempt to make a citizen's arrest.

The lawyer has arrived!

I do have a law degree, but I don't practice .

But this isn't exactly rocket science.

Indeed it isn't.

Guy walking to a property where things have gone missing and 911 called before, matches the suspect... people follow him and he attacks them.

In Georgia you must have IMMEDIATE knowledge that a person committed a crime , not "hey that looks like the negro who's been robbing houses lately" before you may make a citizen's arrest. Lawfully that is.

It also must be a FELONY.

Georgia law is also very specific when it comes to appropriate use of force.

2010 Georgia Code :: TITLE 17 - CRIMINAL PROCEDURE :: CHAPTER 4 - ARREST OF PERSONS :: ARTICLE 4 - ARREST BY PRIVATE PERSONS :: § 17-4-60 - Grounds for arrest

law.justia.com

Unlike police, a private citizen can not detain someone to question them about a crime they may have committed. That is false imprisonment, a felony, and in fact a person has a right to self defense to avoid being falsely imprisoned (and in point of fact you have this right when it comes to police as well, but they are given much more latitude about when and how they may detain you, so it pays to actually learn your rights)

 

[ColtMadeMenEqual]

Arbery did not attack Travis per Travis until after Arbery was shot and wounded in the chest.

I’m asking the following question of all those who have sworn in the name of Trump that they saw Amaud Arbery, on the video, attack a hero first and then they can hear the first shot being fired.

Do you accept the testimony from Travis McMichael that he shot and wounded an unarmed man in the chest at polnt blank range because the unarmed jogger “squared up” like he was going to attack.”

Travus told police that the unarmed man he was confronting and trying to detain did not attack him before he was wounded in the chest by the first

According to reports from the preliminary hearing we learned yesterday that: “Travis told police Arbery “squared up” like he was going to attack.” So he shot him in the chest.

And we learned exactly where the two men were according to the man who had his finger on the trigger when the the first shot wounded an unarmed man In his chest.

“That’s when Arbery ran around the passenger side of Travis’ truck, and the two men met in front of it.”

So is this true or false or fake news:


“That’s when Arbery ran around the passenger side of Travis’ truck, and the two men met in front of it. Dial said Travis told police Arbery “squared up” like he was going to attack. He said Travis then fired the first shot into Arbery’s chest.”

Man 'used racial slur' after shooting black jogger - BBC News

A judge has ruled that there is enough evidence to try three suspects for Ahmaud Arbery's murder.

www.google.com

Can any of you who thought they saw on the video TravisM being attacked first and a struggle for shotgun starts and the heard the first shot go off reply to this thread and admit you were wrong based on what you hero murderer told police about the ambush and murder of an unarmed man who was jogging on a public street.

Did you forget that the video exists, where we see he clearly pivots to attach the guy?

Communist propaganda.

He pivoted to attack the guy who had been menacing him with a firearm. He was righteously in fear of his life.

Yeah... criminals are always in fear of their lives after caught from a crime.

So tired of this far left / conservative nonsense. It's not like there are not thousands upon thousands of examples where this same thing happens with cops. One just in the last few days.

Of what crime was Arbery caught??

Burglary.

Prove it....

The odds are...
1) He was afraid and thought it was a lynching squad.
2) He knew what he had done and tried to resist arrest.

Sorry, there is only one correct option here. I don't deal with 60 IQ retards.

This was in no way a lawful attempt to make a citizen's arrest.

The lawyer has arrived!

I do have a law degree, but I don't practice .

But this isn't exactly rocket science.

Indeed it isn't.

Guy walking to a property where things have gone missing and 911 called before, matches the suspect... people follow him and he attacks them.

Neither McMichael state they saw him at the property in question.

“Matching a description” is not sufficient cause for a citizen arrest.

This is also false, if your wife was attacked by a 6'2" 220 lb black man wearing a green hoody and you didn't see the attack but you seen him running from the direction of your house you would be within your legal rights to pursue a citizen's arrest because that sort of ID from a spouse is almost always considered "intimate knowledge"

 

[Faun]

Arbery did not attack Travis per Travis until after Arbery was shot and wounded in the chest.

I’m asking the following question of all those who have sworn in the name of Trump that they saw Amaud Arbery, on the video, attack a hero first and then they can hear the first shot being fired.

Do you accept the testimony from Travis McMichael that he shot and wounded an unarmed man in the chest at polnt blank range because the unarmed jogger “squared up” like he was going to attack.”

Travus told police that the unarmed man he was confronting and trying to detain did not attack him before he was wounded in the chest by the first

According to reports from the preliminary hearing we learned yesterday that: “Travis told police Arbery “squared up” like he was going to attack.” So he shot him in the chest.

And we learned exactly where the two men were according to the man who had his finger on the trigger when the the first shot wounded an unarmed man In his chest.

“That’s when Arbery ran around the passenger side of Travis’ truck, and the two men met in front of it.”

So is this true or false or fake news:


“That’s when Arbery ran around the passenger side of Travis’ truck, and the two men met in front of it. Dial said Travis told police Arbery “squared up” like he was going to attack. He said Travis then fired the first shot into Arbery’s chest.”

Man 'used racial slur' after shooting black jogger - BBC News

A judge has ruled that there is enough evidence to try three suspects for Ahmaud Arbery's murder.

www.google.com

Can any of you who thought they saw on the video TravisM being attacked first and a struggle for shotgun starts and the heard the first shot go off reply to this thread and admit you were wrong based on what you hero murderer told police about the ambush and murder of an unarmed man who was jogging on a public street.

Did you forget that the video exists, where we see he clearly pivots to attach the guy?

Communist propaganda.

He pivoted to attack the guy who had been menacing him with a firearm. He was righteously in fear of his life.

Yeah... criminals are always in fear of their lives after caught from a crime.

So tired of this far left / conservative nonsense. It's not like there are not thousands upon thousands of examples where this same thing happens with cops. One just in the last few days.

Of what crime was Arbery caught??

Burglary.

Prove it....

The odds are...
1) He was afraid and thought it was a lynching squad.
2) He knew what he had done and tried to resist arrest.

Sorry, there is only one correct option here. I don't deal with 60 IQ retards.

I asked for proof that Arbery committed a burglary. I didn't ask you to read his mind.

Now prove it or you prove you're full of shit....

 

[Faun]

Arbery did not attack Travis per Travis until after Arbery was shot and wounded in the chest.

I’m asking the following question of all those who have sworn in the name of Trump that they saw Amaud Arbery, on the video, attack a hero first and then they can hear the first shot being fired.

Do you accept the testimony from Travis McMichael that he shot and wounded an unarmed man in the chest at polnt blank range because the unarmed jogger “squared up” like he was going to attack.”

Travus told police that the unarmed man he was confronting and trying to detain did not attack him before he was wounded in the chest by the first

According to reports from the preliminary hearing we learned yesterday that: “Travis told police Arbery “squared up” like he was going to attack.” So he shot him in the chest.

And we learned exactly where the two men were according to the man who had his finger on the trigger when the the first shot wounded an unarmed man In his chest.

“That’s when Arbery ran around the passenger side of Travis’ truck, and the two men met in front of it.”

So is this true or false or fake news:


“That’s when Arbery ran around the passenger side of Travis’ truck, and the two men met in front of it. Dial said Travis told police Arbery “squared up” like he was going to attack. He said Travis then fired the first shot into Arbery’s chest.”

Man 'used racial slur' after shooting black jogger - BBC News

A judge has ruled that there is enough evidence to try three suspects for Ahmaud Arbery's murder.

www.google.com

Can any of you who thought they saw on the video TravisM being attacked first and a struggle for shotgun starts and the heard the first shot go off reply to this thread and admit you were wrong based on what you hero murderer told police about the ambush and murder of an unarmed man who was jogging on a public street.

Did you forget that the video exists, where we see he clearly pivots to attach the guy?

Communist propaganda.

He pivoted to attack the guy who had been menacing him with a firearm. He was righteously in fear of his life.

Yeah... criminals are always in fear of their lives after caught from a crime.

So tired of this far left / conservative nonsense. It's not like there are not thousands upon thousands of examples where this same thing happens with cops. One just in the last few days.

Of what crime was Arbery caught??

Burglary.

Prove it....

The odds are...
1) He was afraid and thought it was a lynching squad.
2) He knew what he had done and tried to resist arrest.

Sorry, there is only one correct option here. I don't deal with 60 IQ retards.

This was in no way a lawful attempt to make a citizen's arrest.

The lawyer has arrived!

I do have a law degree, but I don't practice .

But this isn't exactly rocket science.

Indeed it isn't.

Guy walking to a property where things have gone missing and 911 called before, matches the suspect... people follow him and he attacks them.

Prove things had "gone missing" ....

 

[Norman]

Arbery did not attack Travis per Travis until after Arbery was shot and wounded in the chest.

I’m asking the following question of all those who have sworn in the name of Trump that they saw Amaud Arbery, on the video, attack a hero first and then they can hear the first shot being fired.

Do you accept the testimony from Travis McMichael that he shot and wounded an unarmed man in the chest at polnt blank range because the unarmed jogger “squared up” like he was going to attack.”

Travus told police that the unarmed man he was confronting and trying to detain did not attack him before he was wounded in the chest by the first

According to reports from the preliminary hearing we learned yesterday that: “Travis told police Arbery “squared up” like he was going to attack.” So he shot him in the chest.

And we learned exactly where the two men were according to the man who had his finger on the trigger when the the first shot wounded an unarmed man In his chest.

“That’s when Arbery ran around the passenger side of Travis’ truck, and the two men met in front of it.”

So is this true or false or fake news:


“That’s when Arbery ran around the passenger side of Travis’ truck, and the two men met in front of it. Dial said Travis told police Arbery “squared up” like he was going to attack. He said Travis then fired the first shot into Arbery’s chest.”

Man 'used racial slur' after shooting black jogger - BBC News

A judge has ruled that there is enough evidence to try three suspects for Ahmaud Arbery's murder.

www.google.com

Can any of you who thought they saw on the video TravisM being attacked first and a struggle for shotgun starts and the heard the first shot go off reply to this thread and admit you were wrong based on what you hero murderer told police about the ambush and murder of an unarmed man who was jogging on a public street.

Did you forget that the video exists, where we see he clearly pivots to attach the guy?

Communist propaganda.

He pivoted to attack the guy who had been menacing him with a firearm. He was righteously in fear of his life.

Yeah... criminals are always in fear of their lives after caught from a crime.

So tired of this far left / conservative nonsense. It's not like there are not thousands upon thousands of examples where this same thing happens with cops. One just in the last few days.

Of what crime was Arbery caught??

Burglary.

Prove it....

The odds are...
1) He was afraid and thought it was a lynching squad.
2) He knew what he had done and tried to resist arrest.

Sorry, there is only one correct option here. I don't deal with 60 IQ retards.

This was in no way a lawful attempt to make a citizen's arrest.

The lawyer has arrived!

I do have a law degree, but I don't practice .

But this isn't exactly rocket science.

Indeed it isn't.

Guy walking to a property where things have gone missing and 911 called before, matches the suspect... people follow him and he attacks them.

Prove things had "gone missing" ....

The man said that about 2K worth of fishing equipment had been stolen prior.

 

[Jitss617]

As he comes at me flying with his fist I open fire to protect myself that is my right

Pause the video, take a snapshot of the frame from where you think you see AA flying at TM with flying fists BEFORE TM opened fire and shot AA in the chest. And post it

here’s TrumpO’s 538 poll numbersView attachment 350995

Why are you posting polling data? Lol the boy got what he deserved.

Now Travis will get what he deserves...

Why because of the color of his skin?

 

[Jitss617]

Never happened. I watched the video.

But the video doesn't show what happened at the front of the vehicle because the vehicle itself is obscuring the view.

Absent the ability to view that segment of the video, the gap is filled in by questioning one of the two parties who were involved in the shooting. Because Arbery is deceased that only leaves Travis McMichael's although the father if he was in the bed of the trunk may have been able to view what transpired, however I don't recall him providing corrobarating testimony in support of your allegation that Arbery attacked first and that Travis was only defending himself (actually this point is moot because it's already been established that the McMichael's were the aggressors since they chased down Arbery)

How is it possible that you watched a video and saw something on it that isn't there?

The video shows AA the aggressor.

No sir. It does not. It clearly shows Travis committing Aggravated Assault. It means the death must be Murder. No other option exists in law.

Naw. You should watch closer

I have watched it very closely. As I said. Travis definitely commits the act of Aggravated Assault. That crime means that Travis is the criminal. AA’s death is the result of a criminal action.

Look. It is how we deal with every death. Let’s say someone robs a store. The clerk panics and tries to rush out of the store, slips and hits his head. He dies from the fall. Since he died while a crime was being committed the death is automatically a Murder.

What is it you claim Travis did?

It is not just what I claim he did. It is what the Prosecutor and GBI investigators say he did. It is what Greg’s lawyer says Travis did. And it is what Roddy’s lawyer says he did. So everyone involved except Travis.

they said he did what?

BTW, the Roddy guy didn't see shit.

There is more than one minute of video. The Lawyers in the hearing said what I said they did.

Roddy’s lawyer said Roddy did not know the McMichaels were acting illegally. Roddy’s lawyer acknowledged that the McMichaels were acting in violation of the law.

Greg’s lawyer said that Greg was there talking to police and trying to keep AA in sight and had no idea that Travis was going to shoot. Greg is claiming he had nothing to do with it.

So if two lawyers say that Greg murdered AA and they are co defendants why are you having trouble with it?

so what? all of that is true. So what? doesn't change the fact the black dude bull rushed Travis. just doesn't. That is in the video.

the black dude tried to take the gun, right?

In a manner of speaking. Yes. He attacked in self defense after minutes of being chased by criminals including a hit and run accident.

Self defense of what? No one was stopping him

LOLOL

Dumbfuck... the guy who parked his car in the middle of a road, got out armed with a shotgun and ordered Arbery to get on the ground -- was trying to stop him.

You must be the most ignorant poster on this forum to not understand that.

What’s wrong with trying to stop a criminal with verbal commands? Did it hurt his feelings?

Travis wasn't trying to stop a criminal, he was trying to stop a jogger.

Now that’s funny ha

 

[Jitss617]

Never happened. I watched the video.

But the video doesn't show what happened at the front of the vehicle because the vehicle itself is obscuring the view.

Absent the ability to view that segment of the video, the gap is filled in by questioning one of the two parties who were involved in the shooting. Because Arbery is deceased that only leaves Travis McMichael's although the father if he was in the bed of the trunk may have been able to view what transpired, however I don't recall him providing corrobarating testimony in support of your allegation that Arbery attacked first and that Travis was only defending himself (actually this point is moot because it's already been established that the McMichael's were the aggressors since they chased down Arbery)

How is it possible that you watched a video and saw something on it that isn't there?

The video shows AA the aggressor.

No sir. It does not. It clearly shows Travis committing Aggravated Assault. It means the death must be Murder. No other option exists in law.

Naw. You should watch closer

I have watched it very closely. As I said. Travis definitely commits the act of Aggravated Assault. That crime means that Travis is the criminal. AA’s death is the result of a criminal action.

Look. It is how we deal with every death. Let’s say someone robs a store. The clerk panics and tries to rush out of the store, slips and hits his head. He dies from the fall. Since he died while a crime was being committed the death is automatically a Murder.

What is it you claim Travis did?

It is not just what I claim he did. It is what the Prosecutor and GBI investigators say he did. It is what Greg’s lawyer says Travis did. And it is what Roddy’s lawyer says he did. So everyone involved except Travis.

they said he did what?

BTW, the Roddy guy didn't see shit.

There is more than one minute of video. The Lawyers in the hearing said what I said they did.

Roddy’s lawyer said Roddy did not know the McMichaels were acting illegally. Roddy’s lawyer acknowledged that the McMichaels were acting in violation of the law.

Greg’s lawyer said that Greg was there talking to police and trying to keep AA in sight and had no idea that Travis was going to shoot. Greg is claiming he had nothing to do with it.

So if two lawyers say that Greg murdered AA and they are co defendants why are you having trouble with it?

so what? all of that is true. So what? doesn't change the fact the black dude bull rushed Travis. just doesn't. That is in the video.

the black dude tried to take the gun, right?

In a manner of speaking. Yes. He attacked in self defense after minutes of being chased by criminals including a hit and run accident.

Self defense of what? No one was stopping him

LOLOL

Dumbfuck... the guy who parked his car in the middle of a road, got out armed with a shotgun and ordered Arbery to get on the ground -- was trying to stop him.

You must be the most ignorant poster on this forum to not understand that.

What’s wrong with trying to stop a criminal with verbal commands? Did it hurt his feelings?

You don’t have a right to stop random people you think committed a crime. Attempting to do so is false imprisonment and felony assault.

Asking to stop? That’s a crime?

At the barrel of a gun, it is

The barrel of the gun wanted him to stop? Huh

 

[Jitss617]

Savage physical attack

What savage physical attack did TM see AA do prior to when he pointed his shotgun at AA from 90 feet away and told him to get on the ground in this scene from the video that you hold so dear to your racist heart?View attachment 351025
Explain to the jury the violent act you think TM saw prior to telling a jogger to get on the ground with a loaded shotgun pointed directly at him.

TM and pops are committing aggravated assault in that scene and it’s an easily proven felony ten seconds or so before the fatal shot.

You don’t have to lie to win a argument,, put up your best fight and let ppl decide

 

[Jitss617]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.

And when did that happen?

As Arbery approached thd truck.

Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? Lol

 

[ColtMadeMenEqual]

Arbery did not attack Travis per Travis until after Arbery was shot and wounded in the chest.

I’m asking the following question of all those who have sworn in the name of Trump that they saw Amaud Arbery, on the video, attack a hero first and then they can hear the first shot being fired.

Do you accept the testimony from Travis McMichael that he shot and wounded an unarmed man in the chest at polnt blank range because the unarmed jogger “squared up” like he was going to attack.”

Travus told police that the unarmed man he was confronting and trying to detain did not attack him before he was wounded in the chest by the first

According to reports from the preliminary hearing we learned yesterday that: “Travis told police Arbery “squared up” like he was going to attack.” So he shot him in the chest.

And we learned exactly where the two men were according to the man who had his finger on the trigger when the the first shot wounded an unarmed man In his chest.

“That’s when Arbery ran around the passenger side of Travis’ truck, and the two men met in front of it.”

So is this true or false or fake news:


“That’s when Arbery ran around the passenger side of Travis’ truck, and the two men met in front of it. Dial said Travis told police Arbery “squared up” like he was going to attack. He said Travis then fired the first shot into Arbery’s chest.”

Man 'used racial slur' after shooting black jogger - BBC News

A judge has ruled that there is enough evidence to try three suspects for Ahmaud Arbery's murder.

www.google.com

Can any of you who thought they saw on the video TravisM being attacked first and a struggle for shotgun starts and the heard the first shot go off reply to this thread and admit you were wrong based on what you hero murderer told police about the ambush and murder of an unarmed man who was jogging on a public street.

Did you forget that the video exists, where we see he clearly pivots to attach the guy?

Communist propaganda.

He pivoted to attack the guy who had been menacing him with a firearm. He was righteously in fear of his life.

Yeah... criminals are always in fear of their lives after caught from a crime.

So tired of this far left / conservative nonsense. It's not like there are not thousands upon thousands of examples where this same thing happens with cops. One just in the last few days.

Of what crime was Arbery caught??

Burglary.

Prove it....

The odds are...
1) He was afraid and thought it was a lynching squad.
2) He knew what he had done and tried to resist arrest.

Sorry, there is only one correct option here. I don't deal with 60 IQ retards.

This was in no way a lawful attempt to make a citizen's arrest.

The lawyer has arrived!

I do have a law degree, but I don't practice .

But this isn't exactly rocket science.

Indeed it isn't.

Guy walking to a property where things have gone missing and 911 called before, matches the suspect... people follow him and he attacks them.

Prove things had "gone missing" ....

The man said that about 2K worth of fishing equipment had been stolen prior.

So ? Put up a RING and when you catch the person doing it call the cops and give them the video . You don't form a posse and hunt down the first black guy you see............

These rednecks unlawfully detained that guy, PERIOD. It doesn't matter what he may or may not have done, his record doesn't matter. All that matters is they did not follow the Georgia law on citizen's arrest, and that makes THEIR actions illegal, and at that point, Arbery actually the right to defend himself.

As a side note, I personally don't believe those rednecks own anything that's worth $2K except possibly their singlewide that they share with their sisters.

 

[Jitss617]

Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B

what violent crime did TM see AA commit that day?

Savage physical attack

Self defense against someone threatening someone else's life with a lethal weapon is often savage. It's self preservation.

No one told arbery to attack him he was just holding a gun asking him to stop, if he was going to shoot it would have happened at a distance

Couldn't happen at a distance because Bryan was behind Arbery and risked being shot.

Than he could have ran to a different angle,, and he didn’t

 

[Jitss617]

Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B

Where is the proof that the person you're pointing your weapon at, Person B, is either violent or a criminal?

Well he’s running from a possible felony, and he running right at him with fist flying

No, he couldn't have been running from a possible felony since he had not committed a felony.

What was he doing in the house, you know his intentions?

I know he was on that property multiple times and never took anything. So I don't see an intent to steal.

Oh they are done with their investigation? Wow how come
They aren’t at trial? Lol

 

[Faun]

As he comes at me flying with his fist I open fire to protect myself that is my right

Pause the video, take a snapshot of the frame from where you think you see AA flying at TM with flying fists BEFORE TM opened fire and shot AA in the chest. And post it

here’s TrumpO’s 538 poll numbersView attachment 350995

Why are you posting polling data? Lol the boy got what he deserved.

Now Travis will get what he deserves...

Why because of the color of his skin?

No, because he's a murderer.

 

[Faun]

Never happened. I watched the video.

But the video doesn't show what happened at the front of the vehicle because the vehicle itself is obscuring the view.

Absent the ability to view that segment of the video, the gap is filled in by questioning one of the two parties who were involved in the shooting. Because Arbery is deceased that only leaves Travis McMichael's although the father if he was in the bed of the trunk may have been able to view what transpired, however I don't recall him providing corrobarating testimony in support of your allegation that Arbery attacked first and that Travis was only defending himself (actually this point is moot because it's already been established that the McMichael's were the aggressors since they chased down Arbery)

How is it possible that you watched a video and saw something on it that isn't there?

The video shows AA the aggressor.

No sir. It does not. It clearly shows Travis committing Aggravated Assault. It means the death must be Murder. No other option exists in law.

Naw. You should watch closer

I have watched it very closely. As I said. Travis definitely commits the act of Aggravated Assault. That crime means that Travis is the criminal. AA’s death is the result of a criminal action.

Look. It is how we deal with every death. Let’s say someone robs a store. The clerk panics and tries to rush out of the store, slips and hits his head. He dies from the fall. Since he died while a crime was being committed the death is automatically a Murder.

What is it you claim Travis did?

It is not just what I claim he did. It is what the Prosecutor and GBI investigators say he did. It is what Greg’s lawyer says Travis did. And it is what Roddy’s lawyer says he did. So everyone involved except Travis.

they said he did what?

BTW, the Roddy guy didn't see shit.

There is more than one minute of video. The Lawyers in the hearing said what I said they did.

Roddy’s lawyer said Roddy did not know the McMichaels were acting illegally. Roddy’s lawyer acknowledged that the McMichaels were acting in violation of the law.

Greg’s lawyer said that Greg was there talking to police and trying to keep AA in sight and had no idea that Travis was going to shoot. Greg is claiming he had nothing to do with it.

So if two lawyers say that Greg murdered AA and they are co defendants why are you having trouble with it?

so what? all of that is true. So what? doesn't change the fact the black dude bull rushed Travis. just doesn't. That is in the video.

the black dude tried to take the gun, right?

In a manner of speaking. Yes. He attacked in self defense after minutes of being chased by criminals including a hit and run accident.

Self defense of what? No one was stopping him

LOLOL

Dumbfuck... the guy who parked his car in the middle of a road, got out armed with a shotgun and ordered Arbery to get on the ground -- was trying to stop him.

You must be the most ignorant poster on this forum to not understand that.

What’s wrong with trying to stop a criminal with verbal commands? Did it hurt his feelings?

Travis wasn't trying to stop a criminal, he was trying to stop a jogger.

Now that’s funny ha

Yeah, I'm sure Travis is laughing about that at this very minute.

 

[Faun]

Never happened. I watched the video.

But the video doesn't show what happened at the front of the vehicle because the vehicle itself is obscuring the view.

Absent the ability to view that segment of the video, the gap is filled in by questioning one of the two parties who were involved in the shooting. Because Arbery is deceased that only leaves Travis McMichael's although the father if he was in the bed of the trunk may have been able to view what transpired, however I don't recall him providing corrobarating testimony in support of your allegation that Arbery attacked first and that Travis was only defending himself (actually this point is moot because it's already been established that the McMichael's were the aggressors since they chased down Arbery)

How is it possible that you watched a video and saw something on it that isn't there?

The video shows AA the aggressor.

No sir. It does not. It clearly shows Travis committing Aggravated Assault. It means the death must be Murder. No other option exists in law.

Naw. You should watch closer

I have watched it very closely. As I said. Travis definitely commits the act of Aggravated Assault. That crime means that Travis is the criminal. AA’s death is the result of a criminal action.

Look. It is how we deal with every death. Let’s say someone robs a store. The clerk panics and tries to rush out of the store, slips and hits his head. He dies from the fall. Since he died while a crime was being committed the death is automatically a Murder.

What is it you claim Travis did?

It is not just what I claim he did. It is what the Prosecutor and GBI investigators say he did. It is what Greg’s lawyer says Travis did. And it is what Roddy’s lawyer says he did. So everyone involved except Travis.

they said he did what?

BTW, the Roddy guy didn't see shit.

There is more than one minute of video. The Lawyers in the hearing said what I said they did.

Roddy’s lawyer said Roddy did not know the McMichaels were acting illegally. Roddy’s lawyer acknowledged that the McMichaels were acting in violation of the law.

Greg’s lawyer said that Greg was there talking to police and trying to keep AA in sight and had no idea that Travis was going to shoot. Greg is claiming he had nothing to do with it.

So if two lawyers say that Greg murdered AA and they are co defendants why are you having trouble with it?

so what? all of that is true. So what? doesn't change the fact the black dude bull rushed Travis. just doesn't. That is in the video.

the black dude tried to take the gun, right?

In a manner of speaking. Yes. He attacked in self defense after minutes of being chased by criminals including a hit and run accident.

Self defense of what? No one was stopping him

LOLOL

Dumbfuck... the guy who parked his car in the middle of a road, got out armed with a shotgun and ordered Arbery to get on the ground -- was trying to stop him.

You must be the most ignorant poster on this forum to not understand that.

What’s wrong with trying to stop a criminal with verbal commands? Did it hurt his feelings?

You don’t have a right to stop random people you think committed a crime. Attempting to do so is false imprisonment and felony assault.

Asking to stop? That’s a crime?

At the barrel of a gun, it is

The barrel of the gun wanted him to stop? Huh

No, Travis wanted him to stop. He used the barrel of a gun to enforce that.

 

[Jitss617]

As he comes at me flying with his fist I open fire to protect myself that is my right

Pause the video, take a snapshot of the frame from where you think you see AA flying at TM with flying fists BEFORE TM opened fire and shot AA in the chest. And post it

here’s TrumpO’s 538 poll numbersView attachment 350995

Why are you posting polling data? Lol the boy got what he deserved.

Now Travis will get what he deserves...

Why because of the color of his skin?

No, because he's a murderer.

It wasn’t pre-meditated there was no malice it was simple self-defense number maybe manslaughter

 

[Faun]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.

And when did that happen?

As Arbery approached thd truck.

Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? Lol

The arms and legs belonged to Travis McMichael, who brandished a firearm in a failed attempt to persuade Arbery to get down on the ground.

 

[Jitss617]

Never happened. I watched the video.

But the video doesn't show what happened at the front of the vehicle because the vehicle itself is obscuring the view.

Absent the ability to view that segment of the video, the gap is filled in by questioning one of the two parties who were involved in the shooting. Because Arbery is deceased that only leaves Travis McMichael's although the father if he was in the bed of the trunk may have been able to view what transpired, however I don't recall him providing corrobarating testimony in support of your allegation that Arbery attacked first and that Travis was only defending himself (actually this point is moot because it's already been established that the McMichael's were the aggressors since they chased down Arbery)

How is it possible that you watched a video and saw something on it that isn't there?

The video shows AA the aggressor.

No sir. It does not. It clearly shows Travis committing Aggravated Assault. It means the death must be Murder. No other option exists in law.

Naw. You should watch closer

I have watched it very closely. As I said. Travis definitely commits the act of Aggravated Assault. That crime means that Travis is the criminal. AA’s death is the result of a criminal action.

Look. It is how we deal with every death. Let’s say someone robs a store. The clerk panics and tries to rush out of the store, slips and hits his head. He dies from the fall. Since he died while a crime was being committed the death is automatically a Murder.

What is it you claim Travis did?

It is not just what I claim he did. It is what the Prosecutor and GBI investigators say he did. It is what Greg’s lawyer says Travis did. And it is what Roddy’s lawyer says he did. So everyone involved except Travis.

they said he did what?

BTW, the Roddy guy didn't see shit.

There is more than one minute of video. The Lawyers in the hearing said what I said they did.

Roddy’s lawyer said Roddy did not know the McMichaels were acting illegally. Roddy’s lawyer acknowledged that the McMichaels were acting in violation of the law.

Greg’s lawyer said that Greg was there talking to police and trying to keep AA in sight and had no idea that Travis was going to shoot. Greg is claiming he had nothing to do with it.

So if two lawyers say that Greg murdered AA and they are co defendants why are you having trouble with it?

so what? all of that is true. So what? doesn't change the fact the black dude bull rushed Travis. just doesn't. That is in the video.

the black dude tried to take the gun, right?

In a manner of speaking. Yes. He attacked in self defense after minutes of being chased by criminals including a hit and run accident.

Self defense of what? No one was stopping him

LOLOL

Dumbfuck... the guy who parked his car in the middle of a road, got out armed with a shotgun and ordered Arbery to get on the ground -- was trying to stop him.

You must be the most ignorant poster on this forum to not understand that.

What’s wrong with trying to stop a criminal with verbal commands? Did it hurt his feelings?

Travis wasn't trying to stop a criminal, he was trying to stop a jogger.

Now that’s funny ha

Yeah, I'm sure Travis is laughing about that at this very minute.

He’s probably talking to a agent lol

 

[Jitss617]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.

And when did that happen?

As Arbery approached thd truck.

Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? Lol

The arms and legs belonged to Travis McMichael, who brandished a firearm in a failed attempt to persuade Arbery to get down on the ground.

He was holding a gun asking the suspect to wait for cops.. OHHH NOOO THAT OFFENSIVE LOL