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The flu routinely sends people to the hospitals every single year.
When is the last time the flu killed 214,000 Americans in a year? I'll wait.
I said it via ratio...........put your ISM elsewhere.............that was the FLU........BTW.............The flu routinely sends people to the hospitals every single year.
When is the last time the flu killed 214,000 Americans in a year? I'll wait.1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC
Everything you need to know about the flu illness, including symptoms, treatment and prevention.www.cdc.gov
Country didn't shut down...........and ratio to the current population not much different.
ASSUME definition for Covid death.............let that sink in.............the definition on the death certificate was BS this time.
Did that reach 214,000 American deaths? No.
Try again.
The flu routinely sends people to the hospitals every single year.
When is the last time the flu killed 214,000 Americans in a year? I'll wait.
The official number is a steaming load of BS. This has already been explained to you more than once, so I can only conclude that you are dishonest and you choose to believe BS because the only thing that matters to you is trying to score political points.
I said it via ratio...........
Take the CDC data and shove it.............they did the definition so people like you could Fear monger.The flu routinely sends people to the hospitals every single year.
When is the last time the flu killed 214,000 Americans in a year? I'll wait.
The official number is a steaming load of BS. This has already been explained to you more than once, so I can only conclude that you are dishonest and you choose to believe BS because the only thing that matters to you is trying to score political points.
The person I'm talking to is siting the CDC. You know, someone who isn't completely fucking retarded.
Go tell other people how the illuminati is altering the numbers while you discuss the fake moon landing.
Take the CDC data and shove it........
And our population is higher and still climbing..........got news for you.......7800 people died every single day before this junk............EVERY SINGLE DAY..........I said it via ratio...........
Ratio is still higher for covid. And still climbing.
No one knows the real number...........and under the Cares act it rewarded hospitals and labs for calling it covid.............Take the CDC data and shove it........
Perfect. Go talk to buttercup about that.
Let me know when you two figure out the "real" number of covid deaths.
And our population is higher and still climbing....I said it via ratio...........
Ratio is still higher for covid. And still climbing.
The flu routinely sends people to the hospitals every single year.
When is the last time the flu killed 214,000 Americans in a year? I'll wait.
The official number is a steaming load of BS. This has already been explained to you more than once, so I can only conclude that you are dishonest and you choose to believe BS because the only thing that matters to you is trying to score political points.
The person I'm talking to is siting the CDC. You know, someone who isn't completely fucking retarded.
Go tell other people how the illuminati is altering the numbers while you discuss the fake moon landing.
"In the absolute worst case scenario, with the highest risk age group of 70+.... the maximum recorded fatality rate was 0.093.Why? Other than political points.... why?
That's exactly why. If you're saying it's just done to score political points, he could have scored those political points early on.
Instead, he minimized the seriousness of the virus, got infected with the virus, and NOW decides to wear a mask, making his previous stances look ridiculous.
He minimized the seriousness of the virus...... because it wasn't serious. Covid-19 isn't serious.
Trump was right. The CDC proved that.
Did you miss the numbers put out by the CDC? I'll post them again.
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In the absolute worst case scenario, with the highest risk age group of 70+.... the maximum recorded fatality rate was 0.093.
Influenza in comparison is 0.1.
So you are trying to tell me that Covid-19 is so serious we have to have lock downs, and ban gatherings, and have people in masks..... for a fatality rate for the worst possible cases, in the highest risk age group..... of 0.093...... when the flu has an OVER ALL fatality rate of 0.1?
By that logic, we should have shut down the country for the last 200 years, over the flu.
Because if you look at the average fatality rate of all scenarios for all age groups... it's way way way lower than the flu.
Trump was dead on right. He was right about the whole thing. That is not opinion... that's fact based on the evidence we have.
www.cdc.gov
Factor in the BS ASSUME..............And our population is higher and still climbing....I said it via ratio...........
Ratio is still higher for covid. And still climbing.
I calculated the ratios. Did you?
Calculate the percentage of American deaths from the flu in 1968. Then calculate the percentage of American deaths from covid in 2020.
Tell me which one is higher.
You are a vile human being, a liar and a fool. I don't waste my time with people like you. Begone, little demon.
Factor in the BS ASSUME..............
The definition for Fear mongers 2020
We fucked this country up for a virus with a death rate of .001% for those under 50.
You are a good little globalist bitch.
There you go assuming again.........you must have covid............Factor in the BS ASSUME..............
The definition for Fear mongers 2020
We fucked this country up for a virus with a death rate of .001% for those under 50.
You are a good little globalist bitch.
You're the one who brought up 1968. That argument doesn't work. Less deaths and less death percentage.
What else ya got? Let me know when you have something substantive. I'll assume you don't.
There you go assuming again.........you must have covid............Factor in the BS ASSUME..............
The definition for Fear mongers 2020
We fucked this country up for a virus with a death rate of .001% for those under 50.
You are a good little globalist bitch.
You're the one who brought up 1968. That argument doesn't work. Less deaths and less death percentage.
What else ya got? Let me know when you have something substantive. I'll assume you don't.
here's another covid death for you .
Cheick it out.
There you go assuming again.........you must have covid............Factor in the BS ASSUME..............
The definition for Fear mongers 2020
We fucked this country up for a virus with a death rate of .001% for those under 50.
You are a good little globalist bitch.
You're the one who brought up 1968. That argument doesn't work. Less deaths and less death percentage.
What else ya got? Let me know when you have something substantive. I'll assume you don't.
here's another covid death for you .
Cheick it out.
So nothing then.
Didn't think so.
Why? Other than political points.... why? We already know for a fact that masks do nothing to stop Covid-19. It's not even a question now. Denmark actively discouraged wearing masks, and they have lower rates of Covid than the US. So why? Why should he have done it from the beginning?
So people hiding under a desk in case of a nuclear missile, can pretend they are doing something helpful?
Placebo effect? Why? For what purpose?
Trump mask is not good because a waitress told him.They ( CDC, NIH, Trump administration) never said mask is worthless. You and your fellow gullibles keep repeating mask is worthless. You can twist a wet pretzels how ever you want but you are losing.Then you should call Trump administration, CDC, NIH to revised their policy that mask is worthless. During the debate .......... Trump even mentioned he wear and pulled a mask from his pocket.. Don’t tell me he is lying again.Oh dear.Mask don’t work? NOW we see Trump going to his helicopter wearing a mask and the rest of his team are now wearing mask.Now see, there you go with "he didn't directly say it, but we know what he meant" bullcrap. You Democrats have been trying to figure Trump out ever since his office was bugged, and you still don't know crap.There are two types of people who believe that Trump said the virus is a hoax.I wonder if Trump still thinks it's a hoax?
Type 1 are people who don't really follow politics. They just heard the lie about Trump on the fake news or in casual conversation or something and never bothered to fact check it. They are not aware that the Democrats are such despicable lying immoral America hating scumbags that they would purposefully and relentlessly disseminate dangerous defamatory disinformation regarding COVID 19. They have only heard one side of the story and are a bit naive regarding exactly how fucking evil Democrats really are. It's simply unfathomable for them to believe that Democrats would stoop so low that they would spread such an unconscionable lie. A lie that has certainly caused an untold number of Americans to die a slow painful death drowning in their own bodily fluids.
My aunt was type one. She doesn't follow politics. She's never even voted before in her life. She wasn't taking prudent precautions to because she heard that the POTUS said the virus was a hoax. She didn't start taking prudent precautions until after I informed her that the POTUS never said that. She was so incredulous that anyone would spread such a unconscionable lie that I had to send her a link to the unedited version of Trump's speech before she believed me.
Type 2 are low IQ individuals. TDS afflicted morons who do not possess the critical thinking skills necessary to fact check anything. They are feeble-minded individuals who's low IQ makes them extremely suggestable and therefore easily brainwashed by the fake news media via the simplest brainwashing technique. Repeated messaging. They will believe whatever lie about Trump has been told to them repeatedly, even after they have been informed of the truth. If they are told both the truth and a lie, they will believe whatever they heard most often. And in this case, they believe the lie because they were simply told the lie more often than the truth. In their simpleton minds, the lie becomes the truth. They're idiots.
You are not type 1. You have been informed on this very board that Trump never said that the virus was a hoax.
On the last Friday of February 2020 during the first major breakout of the virus in the US, Trump held a campaign rally in South Carolina and made comments during a speech in which he accused Democrats of “politicizing” the coronavirus outbreak that left many with the impression that he had referred to the virus itself as a “hoax.” He of course was referring to Democrat comments in the media about the seriousness of the virus and that it was not just the flu. Trump did not say "the virus is a hoax" but that is exactly what he meant. His downplaying of virus, misrepresenting the facts, attacking medical experts that were cautioning the public confirms that a hoax is exactly what he thought or what he hoped the voters would think.
Apparently you believe in categorizing people which is at the heart of the greatest problems this country faces. The problem with categorizing people is that when we do that we dehumanize them. People are no longer individuals, with unique backgrounds, upbringings, genes, quirks, traits and opinions. Instead, people are symbols. They are black or white or Irish Catholic or liberal or conservative or rich or poor. When you lump people into categories, they becomes symbols not individuals. And that leads to deep resentments, persecution, harassment, riots, and bloodshed.
Fast forward to now in virus land, and you'll see that it doesn't matter on either side what was said about the virus, because this virus does what it wants to do when it wants to do it. Mask don't work, even though they might mitigate flying debris from a person sneezing or coughing if sick, but the spread isn't slowing. Trump fast tracking a vaccine is the only answer.
Yes he can but cowardly he didn’t because of incompetent and ineptness.The President cannot mandate the wearing of garb. If he did that you guys would be accusing him of being a tyrant. Grow up.I guess you haven't seen the ads and signs, "I wear a mask for you". Another failure of the Trump administration is not creating a nationwide advertising campaign for mask wearing and social distancing. Of course that would be rather hypocritical when the president is mocking and downplaying it.There is no need to "sell it" Marty, it's actually FACT BASED....I m not looking for zero risk.okOf course it can be controlled and reduced in spread.All Biden needs to do is touch the surface where the virus is and then touch his face by putting on or taking off his mask and he has got it... Shit happens... and there isn't anything anyone can do about it unless you live in a sterile bubble..God will see to it that biden gets it.Biden was in close proximity for 90 minuets.... He gets a test too...Convenient timing after that side show they called a debate the other night. Guess they really really really didn't want to debate again. Ha. I'm sure Biden is just as pleased.
Yup. These lefty meatheads think you can control a virus.
You can't. No matter who runs the show, no matter what they have to say, no matter what they do a pandemic kills. It can't be controlled.
It will get into any country no matter the safeguards that country institutes. Its a killer and can't be controlled.
It can't be eliminated entirely, until at 80 or 90% herd immunity, via vaccination. The small pox virus was killed, eliminated, is one example
because smallpox only infects humans and has no other reservoir or infection source. It also didn't mutate into differing forms like some other viruses do.
But we still can control virus spread, through our actions... we have always been able to ....
With AIDS, wear a rubber...
With the Spanish flu, wear masks, cancelled schools, churches and gatherings of people together...
With measles, quarantine kids at home...
Only the Spanish Flu is applicable, and even then they had to balance risk of infection with risk of economic disaster.
What you are looking for is zero risk of infection at the cost of destroying the economy.
Well that's what your side appears to be selling.
Those spreading the bull crud that masks don't work to slow down the spread of infection, are the ones trying to sell the Brooklyn Bridge, to everyone.
Those saying that masks will protect you or imply they will protect you 100% are trying to sell you the bridge.
I searched all the way to the end of the internet (it's granny porn, btw), and I couldn't find anyone who said or implied masks will protect you 100%. You may have to look elsewhere for your bridge.
They imply it when they force everyone to wear them and don't tell people it only lowers your risk (actually lowering other's risk)
No, he can't. Even if he did the only law enforcement agency he has that could enforce it is the FBI. He could also use other FEDERAL officers, or nationalize the guard to do it, but with the guard you run into posese commitus issues.
Yes he can. The least minimum he can do was to encourage people to wear mask. Not discouraged people not to wear mask.At the same the main source misinformation and conspiracies. That alone he failed big time.
What are his exact quotes about mask usage and requirements?
His own administration policy and even his own surgeon general beg people to wear mask. On top of CDC and NIH wear that damn mask.
Trump told Americans in his town hall meeting that mask is not good because a waitress told him.
He mocked Biden for wearing mask even inside the debate. What am I missing Marty?
Wearing a mask at all, or wearing a mask in situations where it its pointless or just theater?
Where did they say a mask is worthless?
Then why do people keep claiming trump is against using masks at all?
They NEVER wear masks? How do you know what they do 24/7?now Chris Christie checked himself to a hospital. ALL NOT WEARING MASK
The media you love admitted it's a prop. They remove them as soon as the camera off.
