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Trump Haters Mistakenly Reveal The Truth
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Oh....that must be why he had Biden and his kid over there making billions in graft. Because he wasn't doing anything. Biden said that what they were doing was being done with Obama's okay. So they threatened them by withholding over a billion dollars in aide if they didn't stop investigating corruption.Funny that, Mulvaney is simply saying exactly what Obama did to Ukraine.Link please.
It's public record available to the public.
should be simple for you to find.
tia
You go look it up. Mulvaney said what he said.
Withheld military aide to get them to do something he wanted. Schiff Accuses Trump of Risking US Security by Delaying Ukraine Aid, but Obama Denied Lethal Weapons Altogether
That is a lie. Obama opposed providing lethal aid because he didn't believe it was the right thing to do. Obama was wrong about that but he was not trying to get them to do anything.
Joe Biden never got any money from the oil company, only his son Hunter did, and that was only while he was on the board. And, it wasn't "billions" as you claimed, because Hunter was only getting 50,000/mo, which is 600,000/year. In order for Hunter to make his first billion, he would have to be with the company for over one thousand, six hundred and sixty six years. Somehow, I don't think he's been with them for over a millenia and a half.
But, your attempt at "truthful hyperbole" like what Trump uses is duly noted.
"Joe Biden never got any money from the oil company, only his son Hunter did,"
Somehow, when it comes to the Left, there is a whole coterie of lying Liberals....you.....who can never seem to connect the dots.
Of course Quid Pro Joe wet his beak.....
...like this:
. ….."Russian Collusion"….Hillary's tale, picked up by her colleagues in the sale of American uranium to Russia for $ millions in bribes…er, 'donations.'
…..Mueller, Comey and Rosenstein were all government officials when Hillary received the $145 million bribe for the sale of our uranium.
....Robert Mueller was the FBI Director during the time of the Russian uranium probe, and so was his successor James Comey who took over in 2013 as the FBI was still developing the case. Rod Rosenstein, then-U.S. Attorney....
The reason for the Mueller Investigation?
....to camouflage the fact that every major Democrat elite was both knowledgeable and a participant in the corruption of the uranium deal: Muller, Comey and Rosenstein knew and probably wet their beaks in the payoffs.
They took what didn't belong to them....sold the purloined property of the American people.....and now need to hide the dirty deed.
The Swamp creatures get rich.....and somehow you lying low-lives who defend them can never figure out how.
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Oh....that must be why he had Biden and his kid over there making billions in graft. Because he wasn't doing anything. Biden said that what they were doing was being done with Obama's okay. So they threatened them by withholding over a billion dollars in aide if they didn't stop investigating corruption.Funny that, Mulvaney is simply saying exactly what Obama did to Ukraine.You go look it up. Mulvaney said what he said.
Withheld military aide to get them to do something he wanted. Schiff Accuses Trump of Risking US Security by Delaying Ukraine Aid, but Obama Denied Lethal Weapons Altogether
That is a lie. Obama opposed providing lethal aid because he didn't believe it was the right thing to do. Obama was wrong about that but he was not trying to get them to do anything.
Joe Biden never got any money from the oil company, only his son Hunter did, and that was only while he was on the board. And, it wasn't "billions" as you claimed, because Hunter was only getting 50,000/mo, which is 600,000/year. In order for Hunter to make his first billion, he would have to be with the company for over one thousand, six hundred and sixty six years. Somehow, I don't think he's been with them for over a millenia and a half.
But, your attempt at "truthful hyperbole" like what Trump uses is duly noted.
He got "only" 600,000/year, such an insignificant amount.
Your distance from reality is duly noted.
Nay, nay, Normie.....far, far more.
"How much Biden earned at Burisma has also become a central issue. Trump has portrayed Hunter Biden as having earned vast sums of money while at Burisma, which the president has suggested was an indication of potential wrongdoing.
In an October 6 post on his usual Twitter account, Trump said Hunter Biden “was handed $100,000 a month (Plus, Plus) from a Ukrainian based company, even though he had no experience in energy.” He added, in the Twitter message, that it couldn’t have been legitimate and as president he has “an OBLIGATION to look into possible, or probably CORRUPTION.”
According to payment records reviewed by Reuters that two former Ukrainian law enforcement officials say are Burisma’s, the company paid about $3.4 million to a company that was controlled by Archer called Rosemont Seneca Bohai LLC between April 2014 and November 2015.
Specifically, the records show 18 months in which two payments of $83,333 per month were paid to Rosemont Seneca Bohai for “consulting services.” The two sources said that one of those monthly payments was intended for Biden and one for Archer."
What Hunter Biden did on the board of Ukrainian energy company Burisma
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Soooo....Trump asked the Ukraine to help in a criminal investigation????
If that is a problem.....
....why did Bill 'the rapist' Clinton sign a treaty with the Ukraine with exactly the same purpose?????
"Formal Title
If that is a problem.....
....why did Bill 'the rapist' Clinton sign a treaty with the Ukraine with exactly the same purpose?????
"Formal Title
- Treaty Between the United States of America and Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters with Annex, signed at Kiev on July 22, 1998, and with an Exchange of Notes signed on September 30, 1999, which provides for its provisional application.
- 11/10/1999 Text of Treaty Document available as:
- TXT"
- TREATY WITH UKRAINE ON MUTUAL LEGAL ASSISTANCE IN CRIMINAL MATTERS
__________
MESSAGE
from
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
transmitting
TREATY BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND UKRAINE ON MUTUAL LEGAL
ASSISTANCE IN CRIMINAL MATTERS WITH ANNEX, SIGNED AT KIEV ON JULY 22,
1998, AND WITH AN EXCHANGE OF NOTES SIGNED ON SEPTEMBER 30, 1999, WHICH
PROVIDES FOR ITS PROVISIONAL APPLICATION
Text - Treaty Document 106-16 - Treaty with Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters
Oh....that must be why he had Biden and his kid over there making billions in graft. Because he wasn't doing anything. Biden said that what they were doing was being done with Obama's okay. So they threatened them by withholding over a billion dollars in aide if they didn't stop investigating corruption.Funny that, Mulvaney is simply saying exactly what Obama did to Ukraine.He said exactly that and then tried to take it back. You are the douchebag. Go home you ignorant little boy.
Link please.
It's public record available to the public.
should be simple for you to find.
tia
You go look it up. Mulvaney said what he said.
Withheld military aide to get them to do something he wanted. Schiff Accuses Trump of Risking US Security by Delaying Ukraine Aid, but Obama Denied Lethal Weapons Altogether
That is a lie. Obama opposed providing lethal aid because he didn't believe it was the right thing to do. Obama was wrong about that but he was not trying to get them to do anything.
They didn't make anything from graft. There is no crime in sitting on the board of directors. Something he did until he resigned this year. Ukraine was threatened because a corrupt prosecutor REFUSED TO INVESTIGATE CORRUPTION. Try telling the truth for a change.
If Gabbard is Putin's favorite Democrat, what is Bernie Sanders?Nope.....I think it eats at Hillary that despite all of her criminal rigging of the election.....she still lost. She shows it by openly accusing another Democrat of the same false accusations she secretly made against Trump, and has been thru surrogates.It eats at Trump that he would not be president today were it not for the leg up he got from Putin. It eats at him and eats at him.
That's why he was gullible enough to fall for a hoax that Putin didn't interfere in our elections. He is desperate to have that rot in his stomach go away.You do realize that response perfectly fits your 1st post on this thread in which you desperately need to "bleev" that "It eats at Trump that he would not be president today were it not for the leg up he got from Putin. It eats at him and eats at him."See? It's a birther thing. Credulous rubes who bleev what they are told to bleev. "I want to bleev it, so it must be true!'
I rest my case.
In fact all rational people see he doesn't internalize but rather Tweets when anything bugs him. I've never seen a guy with fewer operating filters.
No wonder you can't see that.
Why does Trump tweet the way he does?
Trump is simply not a fake politician.
He's a rich guy who is used to being able to say what's on his mind.
Clinton was 100% right. Gabbard is Putin's favorite Democrat. He would like to have 2 fools running against each other. Russia wins no matter what happens.
Gabbard supports Bernie Sanders.....but the only difference between Bernie and Gabbard is Bernie took the bribe. Gabbard didn't.
So you say. If Gabbard was supporting Sanders then she wouldn't be running. Try a little logic once and a while.
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Oh....that must be why he had Biden and his kid over there making billions in graft. Because he wasn't doing anything. Biden said that what they were doing was being done with Obama's okay. So they threatened them by withholding over a billion dollars in aide if they didn't stop investigating corruption.Funny that, Mulvaney is simply saying exactly what Obama did to Ukraine.Link please.
It's public record available to the public.
should be simple for you to find.
tia
You go look it up. Mulvaney said what he said.
Withheld military aide to get them to do something he wanted. Schiff Accuses Trump of Risking US Security by Delaying Ukraine Aid, but Obama Denied Lethal Weapons Altogether
That is a lie. Obama opposed providing lethal aid because he didn't believe it was the right thing to do. Obama was wrong about that but he was not trying to get them to do anything.
They didn't make anything from graft. There is no crime in sitting on the board of directors. Something he did until he resigned this year. Ukraine was threatened because a corrupt prosecutor REFUSED TO INVESTIGATE CORRUPTION. Try telling the truth for a change.
Another imbecile who can't connect the dots:
Hunter Biden....
"How much Biden earned at Burisma has also become a central issue. Trump has portrayed Hunter Biden as having earned vast sums of money while at Burisma, which the president has suggested was an indication of potential wrongdoing.
In an October 6 post on his usual Twitter account, Trump said Hunter Biden “was handed $100,000 a month (Plus, Plus) from a Ukrainian based company, even though he had no experience in energy.” He added, in the Twitter message, that it couldn’t have been legitimate and as president he has “an OBLIGATION to look into possible, or probably CORRUPTION.”
According to payment records reviewed by Reuters that two former Ukrainian law enforcement officials say are Burisma’s, the company paid about $3.4 million to a company that was controlled by Archer called Rosemont Seneca Bohai LLC between April 2014 and November 2015.
Specifically, the records show 18 months in which two payments of $83,333 per month were paid to Rosemont Seneca Bohai for “consulting services.” The two sources said that one of those monthly payments was intended for Biden and one for Archer."
What Hunter Biden did on the board of Ukrainian energy company Burisma
Let's check the resume that made Hunter so ....valuable...'
1. Drug addict
2. Kicked out of the military
3. Son of vice president.
Your word of the day:
graft
noun (3)
: the acquisition of gain (such as money) in dishonest or questionable waysalso : illegal or unfair gain
Definition of GRAFT
Did you gain your dishonesty via government schooling, or poor upbringing?????
The only actual case of selling out America to the Kremlin is Hillary getting $145 million for America's uranium.
You didn't know that????
Please provide "credible" proof of your thoroughly debunked conspiracy theory.
No prob....
1. Whether it's just plain stupidity, or being blinded by their own inordinate hatred of Donald Trump, all....every single one.....of the media lynch mob inadvertently clear Trump of collusion with Russia......the basic claim for neigh on three years running!
2. In their most recent attempt to to catch the road-runner, ....er, Trump......that is the claim that he demanded the help of the Ukraine.....they admitted that this is the help he asked for:
"Trump Asked Ukraine President To Help With DOJ Probe Of 2016 Election Interference"
Trump Asked Ukraine President To Help With DOJ Probe Of 2016 Election Interference
All of Trump's enemies admit that this was his request.
3. "In a July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, President Donald Trump asked the new leader to assist the United States in its ongoing investigation of foreign interference in the 2016 elections."
Ibid.
4. This from the the phone call:
“I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike … I guess you have one of your wealthy people … The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you’re surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller,...."
5. Now, the answer to this pertinent question requires logic.....so our government school grads may have difficulty seeing the significance.....
...but it is dispositive and exculpatory for Trump.
Ready?
If Trump had colluded, conspired, corresponded with the Kremlin to aid him in winning the election.....
....would he now be asking the Ukraine to reveal it????????????
1. Manafort provided a steady stream of internal polling data to a Russian business associate with ties to Russian Intelligence. He also turned over other documents and talked strategy which included state like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Still wait9ing for a excuse for that fact.
2. The trouble is that the DOJ is not looking for servers nor are they looking at Biden. These are the investigations he wanted.
3. "Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and his team held a meeting two weeks before he took office during which they discussed pressure they felt from the Trump administration and Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal attorney, to publicly open investigations that would benefit the White House."
Ukraine's president discussed Trump pressure weeks before July call: reports
4. "Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and his team held a meeting two weeks before he took office during which they discussed pressure they felt from the Trump administration and Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal attorney, to publicly open investigations that would benefit the White House."
Ukraine's president discussed Trump pressure weeks before July call: reports
5. "Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and his team held a meeting two weeks before he took office during which they discussed pressure they felt from the Trump administration and Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal attorney, to publicly open investigations that would benefit the White House."
Giuliani was out there before the July call trying to pressure Ukraine to open a investigation of Biden. Little wonder Giuliani refuses to testify. He clearly was running a rogue foreign policy to shield it from scrutiny.
Now get past your TDS and answer the questions.
Why did Manafort give so much campaign information to a business associate WITH TIES TO RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE?
I'm just repeating what Biden said before it became an issue. He threatened to withhold $1 billion dollars if they didn't fire a prosecutor who was investigating his kid. He gave them 6 hours to fire the guy before he flew out of the country.Oh....that must be why he had Biden and his kid over there making billions in graft. Because he wasn't doing anything. Biden said that what they were doing was being done with Obama's okay. So they threatened them by withholding over a billion dollars in aide if they didn't stop investigating corruption.Funny that, Mulvaney is simply saying exactly what Obama did to Ukraine.Link please.
It's public record available to the public.
should be simple for you to find.
tia
You go look it up. Mulvaney said what he said.
Withheld military aide to get them to do something he wanted. Schiff Accuses Trump of Risking US Security by Delaying Ukraine Aid, but Obama Denied Lethal Weapons Altogether
That is a lie. Obama opposed providing lethal aid because he didn't believe it was the right thing to do. Obama was wrong about that but he was not trying to get them to do anything.
They didn't make anything from graft. There is no crime in sitting on the board of directors. Something he did until he resigned this year. Ukraine was threatened because a corrupt prosecutor REFUSED TO INVESTIGATE CORRUPTION. Try telling the truth for a change.
Do I need to post the fucking video, shit for brains ??
The DemNazis do not want an actual investigation in to Russian and Ukranian Interference in the 2016 Election otherwise Mad Moscow Mueller would not have run away like a scared little girl pissing his pants when it came time to investigate it as part of his Fake Investigation.
Well....they did demand it when they had hopes from Mueller:
“… in May, CNN reported that Sens. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) and Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) wrote a letter to Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, expressing concern at the closing of four investigations they said were critical to the Mueller probe. In the letter, they implied that their support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine was at stake. Describing themselves as “strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine,” the Democratic senators declared, “We have supported [the] capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these [democratic] principles to avoid the ire of President Trump,” before demanding Lutsenko “reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation with this important investigation.”
So, it’s okay for Democratic senators to encourage Ukraine to investigate Trump, but it’s not okay for the president to allegedly encourage Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden?”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...tigation-might-do-more-hurt-biden-than-trump/
They did no such thing. Let me know when you get some facts.
"Several reasons exist why the above tweet and associated sentiment are incorrect and misleading. At the top of that list is the fact that the letter in question did not concern a request to “investigate Trump,” nor did it request the opening of any investigation.
Instead, it requested information on why Ukrainian special prosecutor Serhiy Horbatyuk (who serves in a special prosecutor role charged with investigating corruption cases linked to former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovich) had been “prohibited” from “issuing subpoenas for evidence or interviewing witnesses” in four existing investigations into former Trump Campaign Manager Paul Manafort. Manafort, prior to joining the Trump campaign, had worked as a political consultant for Yanukovich and his political party. The four investigations involved money that flowed either to Manafort for this consulting work or to a law firm working with Manafort and others to improve Yanukovich’s image in the West. They did not involve Trump.
The three Democratic senators — then-Foreign Affairs Committee members Robert Menendez, Dick Durbin, and Patrick Leahy — were responding to a May 2, 2018, New York Times report that the four Manafort investigations in Ukraine were specifically singled out from a docket of nearly 3,000 corruption cases in Horbatyuk’s portfolio to be blocked from issuing subpoenas and interviewing witnesses. U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller, in his charge to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, was investigating Manafort in part because of concerns that he owed substantial funds to Russian oligarchs as a result of this consulting work, potentially giving them leverage over him as he ran Trump’s campaign. The reason Ukrainian officials impeded the investigation was no secret, according to the Times — it was to placate the Trump administration, which opposed the Mueller probe:"
We have Trump at the center of a cover-up.
Did Dems Write to Ukrainians in 2018 Asking Them to 'Investigate Trump'?
Noooowwwww.....who to believe....you or the Washington Post?
“… in May, CNN reported that Sens. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) and Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) wrote a letter to Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, expressing concern at the closing of four investigations they said were critical to the Mueller probe. In the letter, they implied that their support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine was at stake. Describing themselves as “strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine,” the Democratic senators declared, “We have supported [the] capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these [democratic] principles to avoid the ire of President Trump,” before demanding Lutsenko “reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation with this important investigation.”
So, it’s okay for Democratic senators to encourage Ukraine to investigate Trump, but it’s not okay for the president to allegedly encourage Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden?”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...tigation-might-do-more-hurt-biden-than-trump/
The letter from Menendez, Durbin and Leaht is here:
https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/5-4-18 Menendez joint letter to General Prosecutor of Ukraine on Mueller investigation.pdf
You are a lying weasel. They were trying to confirm whether a NY Times story about a investigation into Manafort had been started before he became Trump's campaign manager was being interfered with. The prosecutor had been prohibited from subpoenaing witnesses or interviewing them. They did not request a investigation of Trump or Manafort.
Volodymyr Ariev, a member of Parliament who is an ally of [now former] President Petro O. Poroshenko, readily acknowledged that the intention in Kiev was to put investigations into Mr. Manafort’s activities “in the long-term box.”
“In every possible way, we will avoid irritating the top American officials,” Mr. Ariev said in an interview. “We shouldn’t spoil relations with the administration.”
So simple even you should be able to understand it: the Democrats threatened the Ukraine that it'd be in the doghouse of it didn't do what Mueller asked.
Get it, dunce?
You are among the Kings of the dunces on this board.
They wanted to know why out of 3,000 cases, why in the 4 cases involving Manafort, the investigators were forbidden to issue subpoenas or interview witnesses. Congress has the power of oversight and they were correctly using it.
Funny that, Mulvaney is simply saying exactly what Obama did to Ukraine.He said exactly that and then tried to take it back. You are the douchebag. Go home you ignorant little boy.
Link please.
It's public record available to the public.
should be simple for you to find.
tia
You go look it up. Mulvaney said what he said.
Withheld military aide to get them to do something he wanted. Schiff Accuses Trump of Risking US Security by Delaying Ukraine Aid, but Obama Denied Lethal Weapons Altogether
That is a lie. Obama opposed providing lethal aid because he didn't believe it was the right thing to do. Obama was wrong about that but he was not trying to get them to do anything.
Obama came into the elections wanting better relations with Russia. However we also know that Putin took him to the cleaners and had his suit starched and pressed with him still in it. However Obama learned and placed sanctions that were woefully weak but strong for him. The Russians have been trying to get them overturned ever since.
The only actual case of selling out America to the Kremlin is Hillary getting $145 million for America's uranium.
You didn't know that????
A thoroughly debunked story.
Really?
That why you keep coming back and screaming at the sky???
To correct your lies.
Are you begging for a spanking, pervert?Ukraine supplied the evidence, douchebag. The Dims demanded dirt on Trump and his campaign from Ukraine, that the later supplied it.The Obama administration asked Ukraine to investigate Trump's campaign manager.Name one other President who asked a foreign country to investigate a political rival. There is no evidence that Biden broke any laws. Even a partisan like Barr knows that.
Manafort was tried and convicted by a federal prosecutor not Ukraine. The evidence was developed by US prosecutors.
Little boys shouldn't be lying and if they do then they should be spanked douchebag.
Little boys who lie deserve a spanking.
They sure as hell did, moron. Why do you deny what can easily be proven? Oh yeah, I forgot, You're a leftwinger.Yeah, Obama did, shit for brains. Furthermore, the Dims in Congress did. They insisted on it or they would not approve aid for Ukraine - quid pro quo, in other words.Every president ever elected had done quid pro quo, moron.You are admitting Trump did a quid quo pro. Investigating your political rivals is not part of the normal diplomacy.
The fact that Biden running for office is irrelevant to the fact that he's a crook who needs to be investigated and sent to prison.
No President has ever asked for a foreign country to investigate a political rival. You have no evidence Biden is a crook. You are the crook who wants to lock up someone because they are a political threat to Trump. That is hardly a crime.
Your brains are shit. The Dems in Congress did not. You are a lying little boy.
They did not and it is easily proven. Use a source other than your right wing pals. You are a rightwinger which means you are incapable of thinking for yourself.
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The only actual case of selling out America to the Kremlin is Hillary getting $145 million for America's uranium.
You didn't know that????
Please provide "credible" proof of your thoroughly debunked conspiracy theory.
No prob....
1. Whether it's just plain stupidity, or being blinded by their own inordinate hatred of Donald Trump, all....every single one.....of the media lynch mob inadvertently clear Trump of collusion with Russia......the basic claim for neigh on three years running!
2. In their most recent attempt to to catch the road-runner, ....er, Trump......that is the claim that he demanded the help of the Ukraine.....they admitted that this is the help he asked for:
"Trump Asked Ukraine President To Help With DOJ Probe Of 2016 Election Interference"
Trump Asked Ukraine President To Help With DOJ Probe Of 2016 Election Interference
All of Trump's enemies admit that this was his request.
3. "In a July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, President Donald Trump asked the new leader to assist the United States in its ongoing investigation of foreign interference in the 2016 elections."
Ibid.
4. This from the the phone call:
“I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike … I guess you have one of your wealthy people … The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you’re surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller,...."
5. Now, the answer to this pertinent question requires logic.....so our government school grads may have difficulty seeing the significance.....
...but it is dispositive and exculpatory for Trump.
Ready?
If Trump had colluded, conspired, corresponded with the Kremlin to aid him in winning the election.....
....would he now be asking the Ukraine to reveal it????????????
1. Manafort provided a steady stream of internal polling data to a Russian business associate with ties to Russian Intelligence. He also turned over other documents and talked strategy which included state like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Still wait9ing for a excuse for that fact.
2. The trouble is that the DOJ is not looking for servers nor are they looking at Biden. These are the investigations he wanted.
3. "Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and his team held a meeting two weeks before he took office during which they discussed pressure they felt from the Trump administration and Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal attorney, to publicly open investigations that would benefit the White House."
Ukraine's president discussed Trump pressure weeks before July call: reports
4. "Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and his team held a meeting two weeks before he took office during which they discussed pressure they felt from the Trump administration and Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal attorney, to publicly open investigations that would benefit the White House."
Ukraine's president discussed Trump pressure weeks before July call: reports
5. "Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and his team held a meeting two weeks before he took office during which they discussed pressure they felt from the Trump administration and Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal attorney, to publicly open investigations that would benefit the White House."
Giuliani was out there before the July call trying to pressure Ukraine to open a investigation of Biden. Little wonder Giuliani refuses to testify. He clearly was running a rogue foreign policy to shield it from scrutiny.
Now get past your TDS and answer the questions.
Why did Manafort give so much campaign information to a business associate WITH TIES TO RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE?
"Manafort provided a steady stream of internal polling data to a Russian business associate with ties to Russian Intelligence."
Manafort worked with and for Hillary Clinton apparatchik Podesta.
Why wasn't he charged?
"Emails give new detail about Mercury, Podesta role in Manafort's lobbying"
Emails give new detail about Mercury, Podesta role in Manafort's lobbying
Try to get Hillary's shoe polish off your tongue.....it is soooooo unbecoming.
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Well....they did demand it when they had hopes from Mueller:
“… in May, CNN reported that Sens. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) and Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) wrote a letter to Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, expressing concern at the closing of four investigations they said were critical to the Mueller probe. In the letter, they implied that their support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine was at stake. Describing themselves as “strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine,” the Democratic senators declared, “We have supported [the] capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these [democratic] principles to avoid the ire of President Trump,” before demanding Lutsenko “reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation with this important investigation.”
So, it’s okay for Democratic senators to encourage Ukraine to investigate Trump, but it’s not okay for the president to allegedly encourage Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden?”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...tigation-might-do-more-hurt-biden-than-trump/
They did no such thing. Let me know when you get some facts.
"Several reasons exist why the above tweet and associated sentiment are incorrect and misleading. At the top of that list is the fact that the letter in question did not concern a request to “investigate Trump,” nor did it request the opening of any investigation.
Instead, it requested information on why Ukrainian special prosecutor Serhiy Horbatyuk (who serves in a special prosecutor role charged with investigating corruption cases linked to former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovich) had been “prohibited” from “issuing subpoenas for evidence or interviewing witnesses” in four existing investigations into former Trump Campaign Manager Paul Manafort. Manafort, prior to joining the Trump campaign, had worked as a political consultant for Yanukovich and his political party. The four investigations involved money that flowed either to Manafort for this consulting work or to a law firm working with Manafort and others to improve Yanukovich’s image in the West. They did not involve Trump.
The three Democratic senators — then-Foreign Affairs Committee members Robert Menendez, Dick Durbin, and Patrick Leahy — were responding to a May 2, 2018, New York Times report that the four Manafort investigations in Ukraine were specifically singled out from a docket of nearly 3,000 corruption cases in Horbatyuk’s portfolio to be blocked from issuing subpoenas and interviewing witnesses. U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller, in his charge to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, was investigating Manafort in part because of concerns that he owed substantial funds to Russian oligarchs as a result of this consulting work, potentially giving them leverage over him as he ran Trump’s campaign. The reason Ukrainian officials impeded the investigation was no secret, according to the Times — it was to placate the Trump administration, which opposed the Mueller probe:"
We have Trump at the center of a cover-up.
Did Dems Write to Ukrainians in 2018 Asking Them to 'Investigate Trump'?
Noooowwwww.....who to believe....you or the Washington Post?
“… in May, CNN reported that Sens. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) and Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) wrote a letter to Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, expressing concern at the closing of four investigations they said were critical to the Mueller probe. In the letter, they implied that their support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine was at stake. Describing themselves as “strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine,” the Democratic senators declared, “We have supported [the] capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these [democratic] principles to avoid the ire of President Trump,” before demanding Lutsenko “reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation with this important investigation.”
So, it’s okay for Democratic senators to encourage Ukraine to investigate Trump, but it’s not okay for the president to allegedly encourage Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden?”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...tigation-might-do-more-hurt-biden-than-trump/
The letter from Menendez, Durbin and Leaht is here:
https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/5-4-18 Menendez joint letter to General Prosecutor of Ukraine on Mueller investigation.pdf
You are a lying weasel. They were trying to confirm whether a NY Times story about a investigation into Manafort had been started before he became Trump's campaign manager was being interfered with. The prosecutor had been prohibited from subpoenaing witnesses or interviewing them. They did not request a investigation of Trump or Manafort.
Volodymyr Ariev, a member of Parliament who is an ally of [now former] President Petro O. Poroshenko, readily acknowledged that the intention in Kiev was to put investigations into Mr. Manafort’s activities “in the long-term box.”
“In every possible way, we will avoid irritating the top American officials,” Mr. Ariev said in an interview. “We shouldn’t spoil relations with the administration.”
So simple even you should be able to understand it: the Democrats threatened the Ukraine that it'd be in the doghouse of it didn't do what Mueller asked.
Get it, dunce?
You are among the Kings of the dunces on this board.
They wanted to know why out of 3,000 cases, why in the 4 cases involving Manafort, the investigators were forbidden to issue subpoenas or interview witnesses. Congress has the power of oversight and they were correctly using it.
Seems an awful lot you're willing to ignore.
Let's review:
1.The Hillary campaign paid for an anti-Trump Russian creation called the dossier: they used law firm Perkins Coie to funnel money to GPS Fusion and Christopher Steele
2. The Hillary campaign screamed that they had been hacked, but refused to allow any government agencies to inspect the supposedly hacked servers
3. The FBI admitted that they knew the dossier was fake from the start, but used it to get a FISA warrant to surveil Trump and associates
4. A secret cabal at the highest levels of the FBI and the DoJ worked with GPS Fusion to undermine the Trump campaign...before and after the election.
5. FBI found classified data on Huma and Anthony Weiner’s laptop….so they gave them a pass
6. The FBI decided no charges against Hillary before they interviewed her…..with no record kept of the interview, and not under oath.
7. Both Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills were found to be lying to the FBI….but given a pass ...and allowed to keep their laptops, and destroy any evidence on same
8. FBI agents Strzok and Page and McCabe talked over a plan to overturn the election….an ‘insurance policy’
9. Loretta Lynch with Comey’s acquiescence, worked to benefit Hillary’s campaign
10. Obama knew about Hillary’s use of unsecured emails, as he conversed with her on same…kept his name out of the reports.
11. BTW…..Mueller, Comey and Rosenstein were all government officials when Hillary received the $145 million bribe for the sale of our uranium.
....Robert Mueller was the FBI Director during the time of the Russian uranium probe, and so was his successor James Comey who took over in 2013 as the FBI was still developing the case. Rod Rosenstein, then-U.S. Attorney....
12. The FBI offered to pay Christopher Steele if he could corroborate the dossier….so he told Yahoo New’s Michael Isikoff about the dossier, had him print the information….then told the FBI that Isikoff independently discovered the “facts”…
Steele admitted, in a British court, that he leaked the material to Yahoo. September 23 Yahoo ran the story.
The FBI took the Isikoff Yahoo story to the FISA court to get the warrant….then fired Steele for sharing it with news outlets.
13. After the FBI fired Steele, he continued to confer with Bruce Ohr and the DoJ…and Rod Rosestein and Sally Yates.
In September of 2016, this was Steele’s statement to Bruce Ohr that he “was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president.”
14. And in another stunning revelation, the memo asserts that Justice Department official Bruce Ohr was used to pass information from the author of the dossier, Christopher Steele, to the DOJ.
Ohr’s wife, Nellie Ohr, worked at the time for Fusion GPS, the opposition research firm research firm that commissioned the dossier. Bruce Ohr, who worked closely with Deputy Attorney Generals Sally Yates and Rod Rosenstein, passed his wife’s opposition research on Trump to the FBI, the memo says.
15. Fired by the FBI as untrustworthy, Steele is maintained by the DoJ as a contact, and all the while, Bruce Ohr’s wife is drawing a salary from the group Hillary hired to produce the dossier….GPS Fusion.
Bruce Ohr’s wife’s connections to Hillary’s paid dossier-producers, GPS Fusion, was never disclosed to the FISA court.
16. Not Hillary Clinton’s Campaign, nor the DNC, nor Christopher Steel, nor Fusion GPS, nor Bruce Ohr’s wife, the roles of none of these participants in the creation of the dossier….not a one was revealed to the FISA court.
17. The memo also says that the FBI’s deputy director, Andrew McCabe, told Congress that a FISA warrant against the campaign adviser, Carter Page, would not have been granted without use of the dossier. That despite the FBI later determining that very little of the Democrat-funded document was corroborated
18. Let’s compare the zealous and very aggressive action by Mueller against Flynn, Manafort, Papadopoulos, and Carter Page with the immunity and passes given above…..
19..The memo notes that the Papadopoulos information “triggered” the FBI investigation into possible Trump campaign collusion.
It says that there is no evidence that Page and Papadopoulos engaged in a conspiracy. “
Spy Warrant Granted Based On Dossier And News Stories Planted By Fusion GPS
…and lots of evidence of associations of Democrats with the Kremlin….
…completely different treatment.
20. And all of the players in on the fix were demanding the Memo not be released….and lied about why it should not be released.
Now.....why are you such a suck-up to the evil party, the Democrats????
No brains?????
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Funny that, Mulvaney is simply saying exactly what Obama did to Ukraine.Link please.
It's public record available to the public.
should be simple for you to find.
tia
You go look it up. Mulvaney said what he said.
Withheld military aide to get them to do something he wanted. Schiff Accuses Trump of Risking US Security by Delaying Ukraine Aid, but Obama Denied Lethal Weapons Altogether
That is a lie. Obama opposed providing lethal aid because he didn't believe it was the right thing to do. Obama was wrong about that but he was not trying to get them to do anything.
Obama came into the elections wanting better relations with Russia. However we also know that Putin took him to the cleaners and had his suit starched and pressed with him still in it. However Obama learned and placed sanctions that were woefully weak but strong for him. The Russians have been trying to get them overturned ever since.
Obama, an empty suit with a stuffed shirt, did everything he could to harm America.
1. Obama told illegal aliens to go and vote, saying "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."
2. After promising that Iran would never get nuclear weapons, Obama guaranteed them nukes.
October 7 2008, in the second presidential debate: "We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. And so it's unacceptable. And I will do everything that's required to prevent it. And we will never take military options off the table"
The first is an attack on America, the second, on all of Western Civilization.
That makes you an enemy of America, too.
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The only actual case of selling out America to the Kremlin is Hillary getting $145 million for America's uranium.
You didn't know that????
A thoroughly debunked story.
Really?
That why you keep coming back and screaming at the sky???
To correct your lies.
Well, that makes you a failure at your mission....you have yet to find any lies.
Oh....that must be why he had Biden and his kid over there making billions in graft. Because he wasn't doing anything. Biden said that what they were doing was being done with Obama's okay. So they threatened them by withholding over a billion dollars in aide if they didn't stop investigating corruption.Funny that, Mulvaney is simply saying exactly what Obama did to Ukraine.
Withheld military aide to get them to do something he wanted. Schiff Accuses Trump of Risking US Security by Delaying Ukraine Aid, but Obama Denied Lethal Weapons Altogether
That is a lie. Obama opposed providing lethal aid because he didn't believe it was the right thing to do. Obama was wrong about that but he was not trying to get them to do anything.
Joe Biden never got any money from the oil company, only his son Hunter did, and that was only while he was on the board. And, it wasn't "billions" as you claimed, because Hunter was only getting 50,000/mo, which is 600,000/year. In order for Hunter to make his first billion, he would have to be with the company for over one thousand, six hundred and sixty six years. Somehow, I don't think he's been with them for over a millenia and a half.
But, your attempt at "truthful hyperbole" like what Trump uses is duly noted.
He got "only" 600,000/year, such an insignificant amount.
Your distance from reality is duly noted.
Nay, nay, Normie.....far, far more.
"How much Biden earned at Burisma has also become a central issue. Trump has portrayed Hunter Biden as having earned vast sums of money while at Burisma, which the president has suggested was an indication of potential wrongdoing.
In an October 6 post on his usual Twitter account, Trump said Hunter Biden “was handed $100,000 a month (Plus, Plus) from a Ukrainian based company, even though he had no experience in energy.” He added, in the Twitter message, that it couldn’t have been legitimate and as president he has “an OBLIGATION to look into possible, or probably CORRUPTION.”
According to payment records reviewed by Reuters that two former Ukrainian law enforcement officials say are Burisma’s, the company paid about $3.4 million to a company that was controlled by Archer called Rosemont Seneca Bohai LLC between April 2014 and November 2015.
Specifically, the records show 18 months in which two payments of $83,333 per month were paid to Rosemont Seneca Bohai for “consulting services.” The two sources said that one of those monthly payments was intended for Biden and one for Archer."
What Hunter Biden did on the board of Ukrainian energy company Burisma
Let's show more of the article.
"Lutsenko, who succeeded Shokin as Ukraines prosecutor general in 2016, took over a tax investigation into Burisma before closing the case ten months later, after the company had paid a settlement in relation to the tax investigation.
The former prosecutor said that any issues Burisma did have were not related to Biden. In addition to the closed tax investigation, Ukraine authorities opened an investigation into licenses awarded to Burisma and a separate money-laundering probe into founder Zlochevsky. Both of these have been re-opened in recent months, but neither relate to the period after Biden joined the board."
Soooo....Trump asked the Ukraine to help in a criminal investigation????
If that is a problem.....
....why did Bill 'the rapist' Clinton sign a treaty with the Ukraine with exactly the same purpose?????
"Formal Title
Date Received from President
- Treaty Between the United States of America and Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters with Annex, signed at Kiev on July 22, 1998, and with an Exchange of Notes signed on September 30, 1999, which provides for its provisional application.
- 11/10/1999 Text of Treaty Document available as:
- TXT"
- TREATY WITH UKRAINE ON MUTUAL LEGAL ASSISTANCE IN CRIMINAL MATTERS
__________
MESSAGE
from
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
transmitting
TREATY BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND UKRAINE ON MUTUAL LEGAL
ASSISTANCE IN CRIMINAL MATTERS WITH ANNEX, SIGNED AT KIEV ON JULY 22,
1998, AND WITH AN EXCHANGE OF NOTES SIGNED ON SEPTEMBER 30, 1999, WHICH
PROVIDES FOR ITS PROVISIONAL APPLICATION
Text - Treaty Document 106-16 - Treaty with Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters
There is no criminal investigation in the US or Ukraine. A treaty does not allow Trump to request a investigation solely for political purposes.
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