Trump: Largest Debt per year by any President

[Mac1958]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

Not to mention a massive spending increase that he signed and bragged about, and a TRILLION quickly poured into markets in 2018/2019/2020 by the NY Fed to grease the system.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Trumpâs Deficits Are Racing Past Obamaâs

President Trump oversaw falling Federal deficits, which is not surprising since he inherited the Great Recession. President Trump is generating unprecedented $1 trillion deficits in a growing economy.

www.forbes.com

President Trump on the other hand was handed an economy that was growing. In 2017, his first year in office the deficit grew to $666 billion, was $984 billion last year and is projected to be over $1 trillion in 2020 at $1.02 trillion. This would be a 74% increase in just four years and going forward the Federal deficit could escalate to $1.7 trillion in 2030.

When you compare the last three years of Obama’s Presidency vs. Trump’s first three years, Trump’s deficits will be almost $1 trillion greater at $2.47 trillion to $1.51 trillion for Obama. It doesn’t look like Trump’s tax cuts will pay for themselves.



Unprecedented deficits when the economy is growing

The Federal deficit is forecast to be 4.6% of GDP in fiscal 2020 while the economy’s real growth rate is a projected to be 2.2%. This growth rate is in-line with the economy growing at essentially 2.1% the last three quarters.

As shown in the two graphs below, since 1970 the only times, until now, that the deficit has been above 4% of GDP is when there has been a recession.

Every single article is pro Obama and anti Trump.

No bias there folks....

Numbers aren’t biased. It’s clear trump policy drastically increased deficits.

Right and our revenues have increased annually. You admit we have an expense problem. Thank you for that.

Yes trump tax cuts decreased the rate of revenue growth adding to deficits.

Nope.


In the end, Jones admits that “the tax cuts gave the economy an initial boost.” Why did that happen?

Because tax cuts allow more growth dollars to remain in the private sector (aka “the economy”).

Similarly, spending increase put more dollars into the private sector.

We have had no more growth than Obama with a huge increase in deficits.

We have the same growth but lower taxes? GREAT. Don't forget the trade war and entitlements. We are only in inning 5 of a 9 inning game.

Yes trump policy failed to increase growth as he promised.

Yes trump policy failed to increase growth as he promised.

Real GDP in 2016 was +1.6%.

Trillion dollar deficits got us nothing.

Trumpâs Economic Growth Is Slower Than Obamaâs Last 3 Years

President Trump says the economy is the best ever. When you look at GDP growth rates, one quickly realizes he is gaslighting the American public. Each of the last three years of Obama’s economy were stronger than Trump’s 2019 once adjusted for trade, inventory impacts and government spending.

www.forbes.com

You said he failed to increase growth.
Clearly you were mistaken.

Nope, Obama growth was better, and he did it without trillion dollar deficits.

Trumpâs Economic Growth Is Slower Than Obamaâs Last 3 Years

President Trump says the economy is the best ever. When you look at GDP growth rates, one quickly realizes he is gaslighting the American public. Each of the last three years of Obama’s economy were stronger than Trump’s 2019 once adjusted for trade, inventory impacts and government spending.

www.forbes.com

Nope, Obama growth was better

Obama's 2016 was +1.6%.

Trump had
2017 +2.4%
2018 +2.9%
2019 +2.3%

Real GDP under Obama since the Great Recession... 2.4%

Real GDP under Impeached Trump... 2.6%

“We're bringing it [GDP] from 1 percent up to 4 percent. And I actually think we can go higher than 4 percent. I think you can go to 5 percent or 6 percent.” ~ Impeached Trump

Meanwhile, Impeached Trump is the only president recorded to not have a single quarter of real GDP exceed 3.5% growth.

Ummmm....COVID-19

Deranged lunatic, what about COVID-19??

Impeached Trump had to deal with COVID-19. He was only impeached in January? Before that he was just Trump. Not following your logic.

Deranged lunatic, what does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

When did he have 2.6% GDP?

LOLOL

Deranged lunatic, if you don't even know what the fuck I'm talking about, why the fuck are you injecting COVID-19 into a discussion about GDP??

Not to mention, I already said where the 2.6% GDP comes from.

So answer the question, what does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

When was GDP 2.6%? Trump was impeached? When? Before or after the 2.6%. I cannot follow your illogic.

"When was GDP 2.6%?

Already stated.

"Trump was impeached? When?"

December 18th, 2019

"I cannot follow your illogic."

Because you're a flaming idiot.

Now what does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

Why are you so afraid to answer??

Stated? When?

Post #794.

Why are you so afraid to answer??

What does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

It doesn’t say when? You mean FYE’19?

Since Impeached Trump's been president.

Now wtf does COVID-19 have to do with that?

Should I just write you off as the forum's biggest pussy who's too scared to explain his disconnected thoughts on COVID-19?

Impeached Trump has only been president since mid December? I am not following your logic.

That's because you're an utter moron who apparently doesn't know when he became president or what COVID-19 has to do with GDP on his watch.

Faun: Real GDP under Impeached Trump... 2.6%​

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AzogtheDefiler: Ummmm....COVID-19​

Here, I'll answer the question you're too skeered to answer....

What does COVID-19have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% real GDP growth?

Absolutely fucking nothing. The latest GDP figures go only through Q4-2019, before COVID-19 had any impact on our economy.

So when you tried blaming COVID-19, you really exposed yourself as a 5th Avenuer whose lios are so far up Impeached Trump's fat ass, you can taste what he had for lunch since here you are, making up excuses for his 2.6% growth that have absofuckinglutely nothing to do with it.

Now everyone here sees why you flat out refused to answer that question.

He was impeached for 4 mos? Why are you attributing the entire presidency GDP to him? You’re all over the place.

LOL

"Ummmm....COVID-19"

COVID-19 around since October? Trump only impeached in December? It has been “Impeached Trumps” economy for 5 mos. by your definition. If you want to discuss President Trump it is a different story but you specifically said “Impeached Trump” and he was not that until December 18th by your own post? So keep laughing at yourself.

 

[Faun]

Trumpâs Deficits Are Racing Past Obamaâs

President Trump oversaw falling Federal deficits, which is not surprising since he inherited the Great Recession. President Trump is generating unprecedented $1 trillion deficits in a growing economy.

www.forbes.com

President Trump on the other hand was handed an economy that was growing. In 2017, his first year in office the deficit grew to $666 billion, was $984 billion last year and is projected to be over $1 trillion in 2020 at $1.02 trillion. This would be a 74% increase in just four years and going forward the Federal deficit could escalate to $1.7 trillion in 2030.

When you compare the last three years of Obama’s Presidency vs. Trump’s first three years, Trump’s deficits will be almost $1 trillion greater at $2.47 trillion to $1.51 trillion for Obama. It doesn’t look like Trump’s tax cuts will pay for themselves.



Unprecedented deficits when the economy is growing

The Federal deficit is forecast to be 4.6% of GDP in fiscal 2020 while the economy’s real growth rate is a projected to be 2.2%. This growth rate is in-line with the economy growing at essentially 2.1% the last three quarters.

As shown in the two graphs below, since 1970 the only times, until now, that the deficit has been above 4% of GDP is when there has been a recession.

Every single article is pro Obama and anti Trump.

No bias there folks....

Numbers aren’t biased. It’s clear trump policy drastically increased deficits.

Right and our revenues have increased annually. You admit we have an expense problem. Thank you for that.

Yes trump tax cuts decreased the rate of revenue growth adding to deficits.

Nope.


In the end, Jones admits that “the tax cuts gave the economy an initial boost.” Why did that happen?

Because tax cuts allow more growth dollars to remain in the private sector (aka “the economy”).

Similarly, spending increase put more dollars into the private sector.

We have had no more growth than Obama with a huge increase in deficits.

We have the same growth but lower taxes? GREAT. Don't forget the trade war and entitlements. We are only in inning 5 of a 9 inning game.

Yes trump policy failed to increase growth as he promised.

Yes trump policy failed to increase growth as he promised.

Real GDP in 2016 was +1.6%.

Trillion dollar deficits got us nothing.

Trumpâs Economic Growth Is Slower Than Obamaâs Last 3 Years

President Trump says the economy is the best ever. When you look at GDP growth rates, one quickly realizes he is gaslighting the American public. Each of the last three years of Obama’s economy were stronger than Trump’s 2019 once adjusted for trade, inventory impacts and government spending.

www.forbes.com

You said he failed to increase growth.
Clearly you were mistaken.

Nope, Obama growth was better, and he did it without trillion dollar deficits.

Trumpâs Economic Growth Is Slower Than Obamaâs Last 3 Years

President Trump says the economy is the best ever. When you look at GDP growth rates, one quickly realizes he is gaslighting the American public. Each of the last three years of Obama’s economy were stronger than Trump’s 2019 once adjusted for trade, inventory impacts and government spending.

www.forbes.com

Nope, Obama growth was better

Obama's 2016 was +1.6%.

Trump had
2017 +2.4%
2018 +2.9%
2019 +2.3%

Real GDP under Obama since the Great Recession... 2.4%

Real GDP under Impeached Trump... 2.6%

“We're bringing it [GDP] from 1 percent up to 4 percent. And I actually think we can go higher than 4 percent. I think you can go to 5 percent or 6 percent.” ~ Impeached Trump

Meanwhile, Impeached Trump is the only president recorded to not have a single quarter of real GDP exceed 3.5% growth.

Ummmm....COVID-19

Deranged lunatic, what about COVID-19??

Impeached Trump had to deal with COVID-19. He was only impeached in January? Before that he was just Trump. Not following your logic.

Deranged lunatic, what does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

When did he have 2.6% GDP?

LOLOL

Deranged lunatic, if you don't even know what the fuck I'm talking about, why the fuck are you injecting COVID-19 into a discussion about GDP??

Not to mention, I already said where the 2.6% GDP comes from.

So answer the question, what does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

When was GDP 2.6%? Trump was impeached? When? Before or after the 2.6%. I cannot follow your illogic.

"When was GDP 2.6%?

Already stated.

"Trump was impeached? When?"

December 18th, 2019

"I cannot follow your illogic."

Because you're a flaming idiot.

Now what does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

Why are you so afraid to answer??

Stated? When?

Post #794.

Why are you so afraid to answer??

What does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

It doesn’t say when? You mean FYE’19?

Since Impeached Trump's been president.

Now wtf does COVID-19 have to do with that?

Should I just write you off as the forum's biggest pussy who's too scared to explain his disconnected thoughts on COVID-19?

Impeached Trump has only been president since mid December? I am not following your logic.

That's because you're an utter moron who apparently doesn't know when he became president or what COVID-19 has to do with GDP on his watch.

Faun: Real GDP under Impeached Trump... 2.6%​

​

AzogtheDefiler: Ummmm....COVID-19​

Here, I'll answer the question you're too skeered to answer....

What does COVID-19have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% real GDP growth?

Absolutely fucking nothing. The latest GDP figures go only through Q4-2019, before COVID-19 had any impact on our economy.

So when you tried blaming COVID-19, you really exposed yourself as a 5th Avenuer whose lios are so far up Impeached Trump's fat ass, you can taste what he had for lunch since here you are, making up excuses for his 2.6% growth that have absofuckinglutely nothing to do with it.

Now everyone here sees why you flat out refused to answer that question.

He was impeached for 4 mos? Why are you attributing the entire presidency GDP to him? You’re all over the place.

LOL

"Ummmm....COVID-19"

COVID-19 around since October? Trump only impeached in December? It has been “Impeached Trumps” economy for 5 mos. by your definition. If you want to discuss President Trump it is a different story but you specifically said “Impeached Trump” and he was not that until December 18th by your own post? So keep laughing at yourself.

Aww, poor baby.

 

[Redfish]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

You admit Trump was successful? That’s a good first step.

We did well until trump policy started kicking in.

yeah, the lowest unemployment rate in history and the highest stock market and the cancellation of bad trade deals was just terrible for the country. and to meet face to face with Kim of NK, how awful. to put the most sanctions ever on Russia and Iran, destroyed our country, right?

This country has needed a business approach for many years, we finally have it and will have it for at least another 4 years. Hopefully by 2024 the entire country will realize what a failure the dem/lib policies have been and will forever reject the dem commies.

Unemployment rate was going down for years before trump. What did we get from trump policy? Trillion dollar deficits.

It was at record lows? No. Wages were rising? No.

Much better under Trump. He is a much better president than BHO. If BHO was so strong, Clinton would have won as he said "she was the most qualified candidate in history"....people laughed out loud and voted for someone who never held political office.

You live in fantasy land. The little wage growth is from min wage increases. That isn’t trump policy. Trillion dollar deficits are trump policy,

Trillion dollar deficits are due to entitlements. No President can cure that without attacking them or jacking up tax rates by 50%.

What new entitlements we have with trump? Didn’t realize we got a bunch of new ones that drastically increased deficits. Please share.

Not new. Never said new. You're making stuff up now. I know you're elderly but learn to read. We spend too much on SS, Medicare and Medicaid.

So there is no new ones but deficits went from $600 billion to over a trillion. Gee I guess it must be something else then. Like maybe hurting revenue with tax cuts and huge increase in military spending.

Duh. Our population is aging. 10,000 people turn 62 daily. Baby Boomers are old. Like you. We are also living longer.

Fact Sheet: Aging in the United States

The current growth of the population ages 65 and older, driven by the large baby boom generation—those born between 1946 and 1964—is unprecedented in U.S. history. This aging of the U.S. population has brought both challenges and opportunities to the economy, infrastructure, and institutions.

www.prb.org

And people are dying. Funny how deficits were so much lower till we got trump policy.

It’s (not) funny that Republicans want “less government”, yet the last US President who lowered Federal debt was a Democrat (Clinton).

yes, clinton and Newt did work together to reduce the annual deficit for a couple of years, but they did not reduce the debt, the debt still grew over clinton's 8 years. I really wish people would learn the difference between annual deficit and national debt. They are not the same thing.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Trumpâs Deficits Are Racing Past Obamaâs

President Trump oversaw falling Federal deficits, which is not surprising since he inherited the Great Recession. President Trump is generating unprecedented $1 trillion deficits in a growing economy.

www.forbes.com

President Trump on the other hand was handed an economy that was growing. In 2017, his first year in office the deficit grew to $666 billion, was $984 billion last year and is projected to be over $1 trillion in 2020 at $1.02 trillion. This would be a 74% increase in just four years and going forward the Federal deficit could escalate to $1.7 trillion in 2030.

When you compare the last three years of Obama’s Presidency vs. Trump’s first three years, Trump’s deficits will be almost $1 trillion greater at $2.47 trillion to $1.51 trillion for Obama. It doesn’t look like Trump’s tax cuts will pay for themselves.



Unprecedented deficits when the economy is growing

The Federal deficit is forecast to be 4.6% of GDP in fiscal 2020 while the economy’s real growth rate is a projected to be 2.2%. This growth rate is in-line with the economy growing at essentially 2.1% the last three quarters.

As shown in the two graphs below, since 1970 the only times, until now, that the deficit has been above 4% of GDP is when there has been a recession.

Every single article is pro Obama and anti Trump.

No bias there folks....

Numbers aren’t biased. It’s clear trump policy drastically increased deficits.

Right and our revenues have increased annually. You admit we have an expense problem. Thank you for that.

Yes trump tax cuts decreased the rate of revenue growth adding to deficits.

Nope.


In the end, Jones admits that “the tax cuts gave the economy an initial boost.” Why did that happen?

Because tax cuts allow more growth dollars to remain in the private sector (aka “the economy”).

Similarly, spending increase put more dollars into the private sector.

We have had no more growth than Obama with a huge increase in deficits.

We have the same growth but lower taxes? GREAT. Don't forget the trade war and entitlements. We are only in inning 5 of a 9 inning game.

Yes trump policy failed to increase growth as he promised.

Yes trump policy failed to increase growth as he promised.

Real GDP in 2016 was +1.6%.

Trillion dollar deficits got us nothing.

Trumpâs Economic Growth Is Slower Than Obamaâs Last 3 Years

President Trump says the economy is the best ever. When you look at GDP growth rates, one quickly realizes he is gaslighting the American public. Each of the last three years of Obama’s economy were stronger than Trump’s 2019 once adjusted for trade, inventory impacts and government spending.

www.forbes.com

You said he failed to increase growth.
Clearly you were mistaken.

Nope, Obama growth was better, and he did it without trillion dollar deficits.

Trumpâs Economic Growth Is Slower Than Obamaâs Last 3 Years

President Trump says the economy is the best ever. When you look at GDP growth rates, one quickly realizes he is gaslighting the American public. Each of the last three years of Obama’s economy were stronger than Trump’s 2019 once adjusted for trade, inventory impacts and government spending.

www.forbes.com

Nope, Obama growth was better

Obama's 2016 was +1.6%.

Trump had
2017 +2.4%
2018 +2.9%
2019 +2.3%

Real GDP under Obama since the Great Recession... 2.4%

Real GDP under Impeached Trump... 2.6%

“We're bringing it [GDP] from 1 percent up to 4 percent. And I actually think we can go higher than 4 percent. I think you can go to 5 percent or 6 percent.” ~ Impeached Trump

Meanwhile, Impeached Trump is the only president recorded to not have a single quarter of real GDP exceed 3.5% growth.

Ummmm....COVID-19

Deranged lunatic, what about COVID-19??

Impeached Trump had to deal with COVID-19. He was only impeached in January? Before that he was just Trump. Not following your logic.

Deranged lunatic, what does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

When did he have 2.6% GDP?

LOLOL

Deranged lunatic, if you don't even know what the fuck I'm talking about, why the fuck are you injecting COVID-19 into a discussion about GDP??

Not to mention, I already said where the 2.6% GDP comes from.

So answer the question, what does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

When was GDP 2.6%? Trump was impeached? When? Before or after the 2.6%. I cannot follow your illogic.

"When was GDP 2.6%?

Already stated.

"Trump was impeached? When?"

December 18th, 2019

"I cannot follow your illogic."

Because you're a flaming idiot.

Now what does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

Why are you so afraid to answer??

Stated? When?

Post #794.

Why are you so afraid to answer??

What does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

It doesn’t say when? You mean FYE’19?

Since Impeached Trump's been president.

Now wtf does COVID-19 have to do with that?

Should I just write you off as the forum's biggest pussy who's too scared to explain his disconnected thoughts on COVID-19?

Impeached Trump has only been president since mid December? I am not following your logic.

That's because you're an utter moron who apparently doesn't know when he became president or what COVID-19 has to do with GDP on his watch.

Faun: Real GDP under Impeached Trump... 2.6%​

​

AzogtheDefiler: Ummmm....COVID-19​

Here, I'll answer the question you're too skeered to answer....

What does COVID-19have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% real GDP growth?

Absolutely fucking nothing. The latest GDP figures go only through Q4-2019, before COVID-19 had any impact on our economy.

So when you tried blaming COVID-19, you really exposed yourself as a 5th Avenuer whose lios are so far up Impeached Trump's fat ass, you can taste what he had for lunch since here you are, making up excuses for his 2.6% growth that have absofuckinglutely nothing to do with it.

Now everyone here sees why you flat out refused to answer that question.

He was impeached for 4 mos? Why are you attributing the entire presidency GDP to him? You’re all over the place.

LOL

"Ummmm....COVID-19"

COVID-19 around since October? Trump only impeached in December? It has been “Impeached Trumps” economy for 5 mos. by your definition. If you want to discuss President Trump it is a different story but you specifically said “Impeached Trump” and he was not that until December 18th by your own post? So keep laughing at yourself.

Aww, poor baby.

I accept your surrender. When Faun goes into his bag of emojis you know he lost. Another win for the Pale Orc.

 

[Redfish]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

You admit Trump was successful? That’s a good first step.

We did well until trump policy started kicking in.

yeah, the lowest unemployment rate in history and the highest stock market and the cancellation of bad trade deals was just terrible for the country. and to meet face to face with Kim of NK, how awful. to put the most sanctions ever on Russia and Iran, destroyed our country, right?

This country has needed a business approach for many years, we finally have it and will have it for at least another 4 years. Hopefully by 2024 the entire country will realize what a failure the dem/lib policies have been and will forever reject the dem commies.

Unemployment rate was going down for years before trump. What did we get from trump policy? Trillion dollar deficits.

It was at record lows? No. Wages were rising? No.

Much better under Trump. He is a much better president than BHO. If BHO was so strong, Clinton would have won as he said "she was the most qualified candidate in history"....people laughed out loud and voted for someone who never held political office.

You live in fantasy land. The little wage growth is from min wage increases. That isn’t trump policy. Trillion dollar deficits are trump policy,

Trillion dollar deficits are due to entitlements. No President can cure that without attacking them or jacking up tax rates by 50%.

What new entitlements we have with trump? Didn’t realize we got a bunch of new ones that drastically increased deficits. Please share.

Not new. Never said new. You're making stuff up now. I know you're elderly but learn to read. We spend too much on SS, Medicare and Medicaid.

So there is no new ones but deficits went from $600 billion to over a trillion. Gee I guess it must be something else then. Like maybe hurting revenue with tax cuts and huge increase in military spending.

Duh. Our population is aging. 10,000 people turn 62 daily. Baby Boomers are old. Like you. We are also living longer.

Fact Sheet: Aging in the United States

The current growth of the population ages 65 and older, driven by the large baby boom generation—those born between 1946 and 1964—is unprecedented in U.S. history. This aging of the U.S. population has brought both challenges and opportunities to the economy, infrastructure, and institutions.

www.prb.org

And people are dying. Funny how deficits were so much lower till we got trump policy.

It’s (not) funny that Republicans want “less government”, yet the last US President who lowered Federal debt was a Democrat (Clinton).

I was only born in 1980 so forgive my ignorance but did he not benefit from the .com era?

He was fiscally responsible.

he benefited from the dot com bubble which created trillions of fake stock value. But I do give him credit for working with Newt to try to balance the budget for a couple of years. fiscally responsible??? no. we have not had a fiscally responsible president since Washington.

 

[Redfish]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

Not to mention a massive spending increase that he signed and bragged about, and a TRILLION quickly poured into markets in 2018/2019/2020 by the NY Fed to grease the system.

what Trump inherited from obama was a military that could not fly planes, take ships out of port, or fire guns because there was no ammo.

He also inherited, as we see today, a health system that had not prepared for any kind of medical disaster or emergency.

The money that we spent on rebuilding the military and the money we are spending to fight the virus are the results of obama's incompetence.

I don't like increasing the debt by any president. What if find disingenuous is when you and others totally ignore the FACT that obama added more debt (9 Trilion) than all previous presidents combined. He doubled our debt in 8 years and you said nothing, even today you libs make stupid statements like "obama was fiscally responsible" What blatant lie that is.

 

[colfax_m]

what Trump inherited from obama was a military that could not fly planes, take ships out of port, or fire guns because there was no ammo.

Which is entirely false.

 

[Redfish]

what Trump inherited from obama was a military that could not fly planes, take ships out of port, or fire guns because there was no ammo.

Which is entirely false.

no, it is 100% true. I have relatives in the Navy, Army, and Marines. They have all confirmed that our equipment had been ignored for 8 years by obozo.

If you don't believe me or them, ask any of our generals or admirals.

But your Kenyan messiah did send billions to the Iranian terrorists, to help them in their war against us.

 

[colfax_m]

what Trump inherited from obama was a military that could not fly planes, take ships out of port, or fire guns because there was no ammo.

Which is entirely false.

no, it is 100% true. I have relatives in the Navy, Army, and Marines. They have all confirmed that our equipment had been ignored for 8 years by obozo.

If you don't believe me or them, ask any of our generals or admirals.

But your Kenyan messiah did send billions to the Iranian terrorists, to help them in their war against us.

I have relatives in the same services, at high levels. They say it's a lie.

 

[Redfish]

what Trump inherited from obama was a military that could not fly planes, take ships out of port, or fire guns because there was no ammo.

Which is entirely false.

If obozo had prepared the country for a medical emergency why are we now having to go to extreme measures to get ventilators, masks, gloves etc to every medical facility in the country?

Face facts, obama was the worst most incompetent president in our history.

 

[rightwinger]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

Not to mention a massive spending increase that he signed and bragged about, and a TRILLION quickly poured into markets in 2018/2019/2020 by the NY Fed to grease the system.

what Trump inherited from obama was a military that could not fly planes, take ships out of port, or fire guns because there was no ammo.

He also inherited, as we see today, a health system that had not prepared for any kind of medical disaster or emergency.

The money that we spent on rebuilding the military and the money we are spending to fight the virus are the results of obama's incompetence.

I don't like increasing the debt by any president. What if find disingenuous is when you and others totally ignore the FACT that obama added more debt (9 Trilion) than all previous presidents combined. He doubled our debt in 8 years and you said nothing, even today you libs make stupid statements like "obama was fiscally responsible" What blatant lie that is.

A ridiculous lie told by Conservatives

Obama left Trump the strongest military in the world. There was no need to “save it “

 

[Redfish]

what Trump inherited from obama was a military that could not fly planes, take ships out of port, or fire guns because there was no ammo.

Which is entirely false.

no, it is 100% true. I have relatives in the Navy, Army, and Marines. They have all confirmed that our equipment had been ignored for 8 years by obozo.

If you don't believe me or them, ask any of our generals or admirals.

But your Kenyan messiah did send billions to the Iranian terrorists, to help them in their war against us.

I have relatives in the same services, at high levels. They say it's a lie.

what levels and what positions? How about the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff? Was he lying?

Our B1 and B2 bombers could not take off due to lack of maintenance. Our DDG 51 class ships could not leave port, our carriers and subs were overdue for needed maintenance, and our ammo stocks were almost non existent, our Army could not run war games due to lack of ammo or fuel for tanks.

But the Iranian terrorists got billions-------------------------

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

Not to mention a massive spending increase that he signed and bragged about, and a TRILLION quickly poured into markets in 2018/2019/2020 by the NY Fed to grease the system.

what Trump inherited from obama was a military that could not fly planes, take ships out of port, or fire guns because there was no ammo.

He also inherited, as we see today, a health system that had not prepared for any kind of medical disaster or emergency.

The money that we spent on rebuilding the military and the money we are spending to fight the virus are the results of obama's incompetence.

I don't like increasing the debt by any president. What if find disingenuous is when you and others totally ignore the FACT that obama added more debt (9 Trilion) than all previous presidents combined. He doubled our debt in 8 years and you said nothing, even today you libs make stupid statements like "obama was fiscally responsible" What blatant lie that is.

A ridiculous lie told by Conservatives

Obama left Trump the strongest military in the world. There was no need to “save it “

Eeeesh not true.

 

[Redfish]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

Not to mention a massive spending increase that he signed and bragged about, and a TRILLION quickly poured into markets in 2018/2019/2020 by the NY Fed to grease the system.

what Trump inherited from obama was a military that could not fly planes, take ships out of port, or fire guns because there was no ammo.

He also inherited, as we see today, a health system that had not prepared for any kind of medical disaster or emergency.

The money that we spent on rebuilding the military and the money we are spending to fight the virus are the results of obama's incompetence.

I don't like increasing the debt by any president. What if find disingenuous is when you and others totally ignore the FACT that obama added more debt (9 Trilion) than all previous presidents combined. He doubled our debt in 8 years and you said nothing, even today you libs make stupid statements like "obama was fiscally responsible" What blatant lie that is.

A ridiculous lie told by Conservatives

Obama left Trump the strongest military in the world. There was no need to “save it “

go away winger, you don't know what you are talking about, you contribute nothing to this forum with your constant talking point lies and stupid pro-obama bullshit.

maybe there is a kiddie forum you can join where making sense is not a requirement.

 

[Redfish]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

Not to mention a massive spending increase that he signed and bragged about, and a TRILLION quickly poured into markets in 2018/2019/2020 by the NY Fed to grease the system.

what Trump inherited from obama was a military that could not fly planes, take ships out of port, or fire guns because there was no ammo.

He also inherited, as we see today, a health system that had not prepared for any kind of medical disaster or emergency.

The money that we spent on rebuilding the military and the money we are spending to fight the virus are the results of obama's incompetence.

I don't like increasing the debt by any president. What if find disingenuous is when you and others totally ignore the FACT that obama added more debt (9 Trilion) than all previous presidents combined. He doubled our debt in 8 years and you said nothing, even today you libs make stupid statements like "obama was fiscally responsible" What blatant lie that is.

A ridiculous lie told by Conservatives

Obama left Trump the strongest military in the world. There was no need to “save it “

Eeeesh not true.

nothing winger posts is true. he is a dem/lib parrot. zero brains but able to repeat anything that is pumped into his little head.

 

[Faun]

Trumpâs Deficits Are Racing Past Obamaâs

President Trump oversaw falling Federal deficits, which is not surprising since he inherited the Great Recession. President Trump is generating unprecedented $1 trillion deficits in a growing economy.

www.forbes.com

President Trump on the other hand was handed an economy that was growing. In 2017, his first year in office the deficit grew to $666 billion, was $984 billion last year and is projected to be over $1 trillion in 2020 at $1.02 trillion. This would be a 74% increase in just four years and going forward the Federal deficit could escalate to $1.7 trillion in 2030.

When you compare the last three years of Obama’s Presidency vs. Trump’s first three years, Trump’s deficits will be almost $1 trillion greater at $2.47 trillion to $1.51 trillion for Obama. It doesn’t look like Trump’s tax cuts will pay for themselves.



Unprecedented deficits when the economy is growing

The Federal deficit is forecast to be 4.6% of GDP in fiscal 2020 while the economy’s real growth rate is a projected to be 2.2%. This growth rate is in-line with the economy growing at essentially 2.1% the last three quarters.

As shown in the two graphs below, since 1970 the only times, until now, that the deficit has been above 4% of GDP is when there has been a recession.

Every single article is pro Obama and anti Trump.

No bias there folks....

Numbers aren’t biased. It’s clear trump policy drastically increased deficits.

Right and our revenues have increased annually. You admit we have an expense problem. Thank you for that.

Yes trump tax cuts decreased the rate of revenue growth adding to deficits.

Nope.


In the end, Jones admits that “the tax cuts gave the economy an initial boost.” Why did that happen?

Because tax cuts allow more growth dollars to remain in the private sector (aka “the economy”).

Similarly, spending increase put more dollars into the private sector.

We have had no more growth than Obama with a huge increase in deficits.

We have the same growth but lower taxes? GREAT. Don't forget the trade war and entitlements. We are only in inning 5 of a 9 inning game.

Yes trump policy failed to increase growth as he promised.

Yes trump policy failed to increase growth as he promised.

Real GDP in 2016 was +1.6%.

Trillion dollar deficits got us nothing.

Trumpâs Economic Growth Is Slower Than Obamaâs Last 3 Years

President Trump says the economy is the best ever. When you look at GDP growth rates, one quickly realizes he is gaslighting the American public. Each of the last three years of Obama’s economy were stronger than Trump’s 2019 once adjusted for trade, inventory impacts and government spending.

www.forbes.com

You said he failed to increase growth.
Clearly you were mistaken.

Nope, Obama growth was better, and he did it without trillion dollar deficits.

Trumpâs Economic Growth Is Slower Than Obamaâs Last 3 Years

President Trump says the economy is the best ever. When you look at GDP growth rates, one quickly realizes he is gaslighting the American public. Each of the last three years of Obama’s economy were stronger than Trump’s 2019 once adjusted for trade, inventory impacts and government spending.

www.forbes.com

Nope, Obama growth was better

Obama's 2016 was +1.6%.

Trump had
2017 +2.4%
2018 +2.9%
2019 +2.3%

Real GDP under Obama since the Great Recession... 2.4%

Real GDP under Impeached Trump... 2.6%

“We're bringing it [GDP] from 1 percent up to 4 percent. And I actually think we can go higher than 4 percent. I think you can go to 5 percent or 6 percent.” ~ Impeached Trump

Meanwhile, Impeached Trump is the only president recorded to not have a single quarter of real GDP exceed 3.5% growth.

Ummmm....COVID-19

Deranged lunatic, what about COVID-19??

Impeached Trump had to deal with COVID-19. He was only impeached in January? Before that he was just Trump. Not following your logic.

Deranged lunatic, what does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

When did he have 2.6% GDP?

LOLOL

Deranged lunatic, if you don't even know what the fuck I'm talking about, why the fuck are you injecting COVID-19 into a discussion about GDP??

Not to mention, I already said where the 2.6% GDP comes from.

So answer the question, what does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

When was GDP 2.6%? Trump was impeached? When? Before or after the 2.6%. I cannot follow your illogic.

"When was GDP 2.6%?

Already stated.

"Trump was impeached? When?"

December 18th, 2019

"I cannot follow your illogic."

Because you're a flaming idiot.

Now what does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

Why are you so afraid to answer??

Stated? When?

Post #794.

Why are you so afraid to answer??

What does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

It doesn’t say when? You mean FYE’19?

Since Impeached Trump's been president.

Now wtf does COVID-19 have to do with that?

Should I just write you off as the forum's biggest pussy who's too scared to explain his disconnected thoughts on COVID-19?

Impeached Trump has only been president since mid December? I am not following your logic.

That's because you're an utter moron who apparently doesn't know when he became president or what COVID-19 has to do with GDP on his watch.

Faun: Real GDP under Impeached Trump... 2.6%​

​

AzogtheDefiler: Ummmm....COVID-19​

Here, I'll answer the question you're too skeered to answer....

What does COVID-19have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% real GDP growth?

Absolutely fucking nothing. The latest GDP figures go only through Q4-2019, before COVID-19 had any impact on our economy.

So when you tried blaming COVID-19, you really exposed yourself as a 5th Avenuer whose lios are so far up Impeached Trump's fat ass, you can taste what he had for lunch since here you are, making up excuses for his 2.6% growth that have absofuckinglutely nothing to do with it.

Now everyone here sees why you flat out refused to answer that question.

He was impeached for 4 mos? Why are you attributing the entire presidency GDP to him? You’re all over the place.

LOL

"Ummmm....COVID-19"

COVID-19 around since October? Trump only impeached in December? It has been “Impeached Trumps” economy for 5 mos. by your definition. If you want to discuss President Trump it is a different story but you specifically said “Impeached Trump” and he was not that until December 18th by your own post? So keep laughing at yourself.

Aww, poor baby.

I accept your surrender. When Faun goes into his bag of emojis you know he lost. Another win for the Pale Orc.

LOLOL

Yeah, deranged lunatic, because COVID-19 was a factor of GDP until Q4 2019.

 

[colfax_m]

what Trump inherited from obama was a military that could not fly planes, take ships out of port, or fire guns because there was no ammo.

Which is entirely false.

no, it is 100% true. I have relatives in the Navy, Army, and Marines. They have all confirmed that our equipment had been ignored for 8 years by obozo.

If you don't believe me or them, ask any of our generals or admirals.

But your Kenyan messiah did send billions to the Iranian terrorists, to help them in their war against us.

I have relatives in the same services, at high levels. They say it's a lie.

what levels and what positions? How about the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff? Was he lying?

Our B1 and B2 bombers could not take off due to lack of maintenance. Our DDG 51 class ships could not leave port, our carriers and subs were overdue for needed maintenance, and our ammo stocks were almost non existent, our Army could not run war games due to lack of ammo or fuel for tanks.

But the Iranian terrorists got billions-------------------------

Show me where he said that.

 

[colfax_m]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

Not to mention a massive spending increase that he signed and bragged about, and a TRILLION quickly poured into markets in 2018/2019/2020 by the NY Fed to grease the system.

what Trump inherited from obama was a military that could not fly planes, take ships out of port, or fire guns because there was no ammo.

He also inherited, as we see today, a health system that had not prepared for any kind of medical disaster or emergency.

The money that we spent on rebuilding the military and the money we are spending to fight the virus are the results of obama's incompetence.

I don't like increasing the debt by any president. What if find disingenuous is when you and others totally ignore the FACT that obama added more debt (9 Trilion) than all previous presidents combined. He doubled our debt in 8 years and you said nothing, even today you libs make stupid statements like "obama was fiscally responsible" What blatant lie that is.

A ridiculous lie told by Conservatives

Obama left Trump the strongest military in the world. There was no need to “save it “

Eeeesh not true.

What country had a stronger military at the end of the Obama administration?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Trumpâs Deficits Are Racing Past Obamaâs

President Trump oversaw falling Federal deficits, which is not surprising since he inherited the Great Recession. President Trump is generating unprecedented $1 trillion deficits in a growing economy.

www.forbes.com

President Trump on the other hand was handed an economy that was growing. In 2017, his first year in office the deficit grew to $666 billion, was $984 billion last year and is projected to be over $1 trillion in 2020 at $1.02 trillion. This would be a 74% increase in just four years and going forward the Federal deficit could escalate to $1.7 trillion in 2030.

When you compare the last three years of Obama’s Presidency vs. Trump’s first three years, Trump’s deficits will be almost $1 trillion greater at $2.47 trillion to $1.51 trillion for Obama. It doesn’t look like Trump’s tax cuts will pay for themselves.



Unprecedented deficits when the economy is growing

The Federal deficit is forecast to be 4.6% of GDP in fiscal 2020 while the economy’s real growth rate is a projected to be 2.2%. This growth rate is in-line with the economy growing at essentially 2.1% the last three quarters.

As shown in the two graphs below, since 1970 the only times, until now, that the deficit has been above 4% of GDP is when there has been a recession.

Every single article is pro Obama and anti Trump.

No bias there folks....

Numbers aren’t biased. It’s clear trump policy drastically increased deficits.

Right and our revenues have increased annually. You admit we have an expense problem. Thank you for that.

Yes trump tax cuts decreased the rate of revenue growth adding to deficits.

Nope.


In the end, Jones admits that “the tax cuts gave the economy an initial boost.” Why did that happen?

Because tax cuts allow more growth dollars to remain in the private sector (aka “the economy”).

Similarly, spending increase put more dollars into the private sector.

We have had no more growth than Obama with a huge increase in deficits.

We have the same growth but lower taxes? GREAT. Don't forget the trade war and entitlements. We are only in inning 5 of a 9 inning game.

Yes trump policy failed to increase growth as he promised.

Yes trump policy failed to increase growth as he promised.

Real GDP in 2016 was +1.6%.

Trillion dollar deficits got us nothing.

Trumpâs Economic Growth Is Slower Than Obamaâs Last 3 Years

President Trump says the economy is the best ever. When you look at GDP growth rates, one quickly realizes he is gaslighting the American public. Each of the last three years of Obama’s economy were stronger than Trump’s 2019 once adjusted for trade, inventory impacts and government spending.

www.forbes.com

You said he failed to increase growth.
Clearly you were mistaken.

Nope, Obama growth was better, and he did it without trillion dollar deficits.

Trumpâs Economic Growth Is Slower Than Obamaâs Last 3 Years

President Trump says the economy is the best ever. When you look at GDP growth rates, one quickly realizes he is gaslighting the American public. Each of the last three years of Obama’s economy were stronger than Trump’s 2019 once adjusted for trade, inventory impacts and government spending.

www.forbes.com

Nope, Obama growth was better

Obama's 2016 was +1.6%.

Trump had
2017 +2.4%
2018 +2.9%
2019 +2.3%

Real GDP under Obama since the Great Recession... 2.4%

Real GDP under Impeached Trump... 2.6%

“We're bringing it [GDP] from 1 percent up to 4 percent. And I actually think we can go higher than 4 percent. I think you can go to 5 percent or 6 percent.” ~ Impeached Trump

Meanwhile, Impeached Trump is the only president recorded to not have a single quarter of real GDP exceed 3.5% growth.

Ummmm....COVID-19

Deranged lunatic, what about COVID-19??

Impeached Trump had to deal with COVID-19. He was only impeached in January? Before that he was just Trump. Not following your logic.

Deranged lunatic, what does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

When did he have 2.6% GDP?

LOLOL

Deranged lunatic, if you don't even know what the fuck I'm talking about, why the fuck are you injecting COVID-19 into a discussion about GDP??

Not to mention, I already said where the 2.6% GDP comes from.

So answer the question, what does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

When was GDP 2.6%? Trump was impeached? When? Before or after the 2.6%. I cannot follow your illogic.

"When was GDP 2.6%?

Already stated.

"Trump was impeached? When?"

December 18th, 2019

"I cannot follow your illogic."

Because you're a flaming idiot.

Now what does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

Why are you so afraid to answer??

Stated? When?

Post #794.

Why are you so afraid to answer??

What does COVID-19 have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% GDP??

It doesn’t say when? You mean FYE’19?

Since Impeached Trump's been president.

Now wtf does COVID-19 have to do with that?

Should I just write you off as the forum's biggest pussy who's too scared to explain his disconnected thoughts on COVID-19?

Impeached Trump has only been president since mid December? I am not following your logic.

That's because you're an utter moron who apparently doesn't know when he became president or what COVID-19 has to do with GDP on his watch.

Faun: Real GDP under Impeached Trump... 2.6%​

​

AzogtheDefiler: Ummmm....COVID-19​

Here, I'll answer the question you're too skeered to answer....

What does COVID-19have to do with Impeached Trump's 2.6% real GDP growth?

Absolutely fucking nothing. The latest GDP figures go only through Q4-2019, before COVID-19 had any impact on our economy.

So when you tried blaming COVID-19, you really exposed yourself as a 5th Avenuer whose lios are so far up Impeached Trump's fat ass, you can taste what he had for lunch since here you are, making up excuses for his 2.6% growth that have absofuckinglutely nothing to do with it.

Now everyone here sees why you flat out refused to answer that question.

He was impeached for 4 mos? Why are you attributing the entire presidency GDP to him? You’re all over the place.

LOL

"Ummmm....COVID-19"

COVID-19 around since October? Trump only impeached in December? It has been “Impeached Trumps” economy for 5 mos. by your definition. If you want to discuss President Trump it is a different story but you specifically said “Impeached Trump” and he was not that until December 18th by your own post? So keep laughing at yourself.

Aww, poor baby.

I accept your surrender. When Faun goes into his bag of emojis you know he lost. Another win for the Pale Orc.

LOLOL

Yeah, deranged lunatic, because COVID-19 was a factor of GDP until Q4 2019.

Trump was not impeached until Q4. You specifically said "Impeached Trump". So who is the deranged lunatic?