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Right, the other poster did...the one to which you responded...goddamn, you might be the dumbest poster on this board. Move over, Skye...this little sphincter makes you look like Stephen Hawking....So you didn't SAY SHIT!
The president doesn’t set the rate of increase for military payBy comparing the current pay raises with others over the last ten years, and saying they are related to inflation?Dumb bastard where does it say anything about inflation over the last 10' years in that post?.
If you can't figure that out, then you are the moron I think you are.
A lie was told. The bell rang. Can't unring it.
How to play Twister with words.Trump Did NOT Lie to the Troops, Media Types Just Can’t Add!
Many gaping mouths, including embittered and now unemployed never-Trumpers, made breathless claims Thursday about the president lying to the troops. Naturally, these claims were then echoed across liberal media.
But he didn’t.
They claimed he bald-faced disrespected and lied to their faces while visiting them in Iraq (something many of them just hours before were claiming he’d never do), are so insanely obsessed with catching Trump doing something “wrong,” that they never seem to understand that sometimes his inaccurate specificity undersells the truth.
They just always assume the worst so he can then regularly not only correct the record but then demonstrate the way in which he is over performing as president.
They have a hard time accepting this if they anchor shows on the two cable networks that continue to fall behind Fox News Channel (even when their audiences are combined.)
But here are the details.
President Trump said: "You protect us. We are always going to protect you. And you just saw that, 'cause you just got one of the biggest pay raises you've ever received. ... You haven't gotten one in more than 10 years. More than 10 years. And we got you a big one. I got you a big one. I got you a big one.”
Later he went on to say: "They had plenty of people that came up, they said, 'You know, we could make it smaller. We could make it 3%, we could make it 2%, we could make it 4%,'" Trump told the troops about the latest pay raise. "I said, 'No. Make it 10%. Make it more than 10%.’"
Neither statement is accurate, when taken out of context, but neither is also completely inaccurate either.
Nevertheless that didn’t stop the media.
Don Lemon of CNN: "Even in a combat zone, this president can’t tell the truth, lying right to their faces. Telling them he got a 10% pay raise this year. And that it was the first they got in ten years. That’s a lie."
Joe Scarborough of MSNBC: "The President also lied about pushing through a huge pay raise for the troops. I don’t get it. Because it’s not true. It’s not even close to being true.”
Jim Sciutto of CNN: “He said that he gave them their first pay raise in ten years, and that he gave them a pay raise of ten percent—not true.”
The Hill: “Trump incorrectly claims military pay hasn’t gone up for 10 years."
So where’s the truth?
The most problematic part of what Trump said is that he was in fact mistaken in his first statement. The military has received pay raises annually. For six of the eight years that Obama was president they received a paltry 1-1.7% raise per year. Even when you factor in the first two years' raises under Obama of 3%+, Obama’s average raise for the military was 1.9% per year. In President Trump’s first three years he has averaged 2.4%. He also conflated the “not getting a raise” to the bill he signed in September of this year, which for the first time in a decade, did not tie raises and spending for the military to a “continuing resolution” but rather became a hardened budgetary item. This sense of permanence in where the funding comes from is a more secure reality for the military men and women who serve for it is not served up on the whim of things like whether or not the Congress will choose to shut down, as opposed to funding the voter’s priorities of border security.
Other than that point, none of the above media critiques are true in the reporting of what the president said or meant.
Don Lemon, do you see anywhere in the quote above that says the president claimed he provided a 10% raise in a single year? Nope. Joe Scarborough and Jim Sciutto you’re both just wrong.
Trump never indicates in his statement that he isolated the raise the troops were receiving under his watch as being accomplished in the calendar year of 2018. Many of the media outlets breathlessly reported that he had said as much, but look at his own words—he didn’t.
What he did imply is that he had given them a raise of roughly 10%. At 2.4% per year times 4 years he will have overseen a raise of 9.6% for the troops in his first term. Comparatively over Obama’s last 4 years that administration served up a whopping 1.25% pay raise per year equalling roughly half of Trump’s raise over an equally comparable period of time.
If Trump’s consistency holds for the duration of two full terms he will deliver up nearly 19.2% in pay increases over the course of his time in office, shattering Obama’s totals.
To be clear the president, after having a bit of jet lag, and having visited with the troops, was inaccurate in the timing of when pay raises have happened. He was correct in that it has been ten years plus since military funding scheduled pay raises—as they should be—budgetarily and with confidence that Congress will fund.
But to be even more clear the president has also given them a huge pay raise—double the size of Obama’s—and rounding out to roughly 10 percent, unless term two rolls around, and then it may end up looking more like 20 percent.
Bottom line is the military men and women who serve this Commander-In-Chief love that, even though the media claimed he’d wouldn’t visit them, he did.
They love even more that he cares enough about them and their welfare that he prioritized their pay increases to be huge—double what they were under Obama—and set to stay that way, at least while he continues to call the shots
Townhall.com ^ | December 28, 2018
That is correct.............The president doesn’t set the rate of increase for military payBy comparing the current pay raises with others over the last ten years, and saying they are related to inflation?Dumb bastard where does it say anything about inflation over the last 10' years in that post?.
If you can't figure that out, then you are the moron I think you are.
There are not a bunch of guys who come into the presidents office and say...2%....no 3%...no 4%........and the president says 10%
The rate of 2.6% is set by law based on average pay increases. The president accepts it or he doesn’t.
When first proposed, Trump rejected the 2.6 percent increase for government employees and accepted it (not 10 percent) for the militaryThat is correct.............The president doesn’t set the rate of increase for military payBy comparing the current pay raises with others over the last ten years, and saying they are related to inflation?Dumb bastard where does it say anything about inflation over the last 10' years in that post?.
If you can't figure that out, then you are the moron I think you are.
There are not a bunch of guys who come into the presidents office and say...2%....no 3%...no 4%........and the president says 10%
The rate of 2.6% is set by law based on average pay increases. The president accepts it or he doesn’t.
Just as Civilian Federal employees ...........They are getting their Cost of Living increases but not the locality increases........which were pretty massive........averaging out at about 25% at a cost of roughly 25 Billion..........That was denied.......
Only change is they added new areas that are higher cost.......new areas..........and in that aspect it would be an increase of about 10% as they are new areas..........so the chart and history start at that value............
Which happens to be the only area that a 10% increase would make sense...........
The increase for military is about 5.1% if and ONLY IF they qualify for BAH.............and that is dependent on their locality of their families......average single guy is a 2.6% increase.
He proposed a merit based system..........which of course would have to approved by Congress........and they are basically not passing anything anymore. All bills passed by Congress are dying in the Senate unless it's some let's praise this guy bill.......or dedicate a road to someone..........When first proposed, Trump rejected the 2.6 percent increase for government employees and accepted it (not 10 percent) for the militaryThat is correct.............The president doesn’t set the rate of increase for military payBy comparing the current pay raises with others over the last ten years, and saying they are related to inflation?Dumb bastard where does it say anything about inflation over the last 10' years in that post?.
If you can't figure that out, then you are the moron I think you are.
There are not a bunch of guys who come into the presidents office and say...2%....no 3%...no 4%........and the president says 10%
The rate of 2.6% is set by law based on average pay increases. The president accepts it or he doesn’t.
Just as Civilian Federal employees ...........They are getting their Cost of Living increases but not the locality increases........which were pretty massive........averaging out at about 25% at a cost of roughly 25 Billion..........That was denied.......
Only change is they added new areas that are higher cost.......new areas..........and in that aspect it would be an increase of about 10% as they are new areas..........so the chart and history start at that value............
Which happens to be the only area that a 10% increase would make sense...........
The increase for military is about 5.1% if and ONLY IF they qualify for BAH.............and that is dependent on their locality of their families......average single guy is a 2.6% increase.
Congress eventually overruled Trump and gave everyone 2.6%
By comparing the current pay raises with others over the last ten years, and saying they are related to inflation?Dumb bastard where does it say anything about inflation over the last 10' years in that post?.
If you can't figure that out, then you are the moron I think you are.
Another asshole ABNORMAL...INFLATION!!!...LOLOLOLTrump Did NOT Lie to the Troops, Media Types Just Can’t Add!
Many gaping mouths, including embittered and now unemployed never-Trumpers, made breathless claims Thursday about the president lying to the troops. Naturally, these claims were then echoed across liberal media.
But he didn’t.
They claimed he bald-faced disrespected and lied to their faces while visiting them in Iraq (something many of them just hours before were claiming he’d never do), are so insanely obsessed with catching Trump doing something “wrong,” that they never seem to understand that sometimes his inaccurate specificity undersells the truth.
They just always assume the worst so he can then regularly not only correct the record but then demonstrate the way in which he is over performing as president.
They have a hard time accepting this if they anchor shows on the two cable networks that continue to fall behind Fox News Channel (even when their audiences are combined.)
But here are the details.
President Trump said: "You protect us. We are always going to protect you. And you just saw that, 'cause you just got one of the biggest pay raises you've ever received. ... You haven't gotten one in more than 10 years. More than 10 years. And we got you a big one. I got you a big one. I got you a big one.”
Later he went on to say: "They had plenty of people that came up, they said, 'You know, we could make it smaller. We could make it 3%, we could make it 2%, we could make it 4%,'" Trump told the troops about the latest pay raise. "I said, 'No. Make it 10%. Make it more than 10%.’"
Neither statement is accurate, when taken out of context, but neither is also completely inaccurate either.
Nevertheless that didn’t stop the media.
Don Lemon of CNN: "Even in a combat zone, this president can’t tell the truth, lying right to their faces. Telling them he got a 10% pay raise this year. And that it was the first they got in ten years. That’s a lie."
Joe Scarborough of MSNBC: "The President also lied about pushing through a huge pay raise for the troops. I don’t get it. Because it’s not true. It’s not even close to being true.”
Jim Sciutto of CNN: “He said that he gave them their first pay raise in ten years, and that he gave them a pay raise of ten percent—not true.”
The Hill: “Trump incorrectly claims military pay hasn’t gone up for 10 years."
So where’s the truth?
The most problematic part of what Trump said is that he was in fact mistaken in his first statement. The military has received pay raises annually. For six of the eight years that Obama was president they received a paltry 1-1.7% raise per year. Even when you factor in the first two years' raises under Obama of 3%+, Obama’s average raise for the military was 1.9% per year. In President Trump’s first three years he has averaged 2.4%. He also conflated the “not getting a raise” to the bill he signed in September of this year, which for the first time in a decade, did not tie raises and spending for the military to a “continuing resolution” but rather became a hardened budgetary item. This sense of permanence in where the funding comes from is a more secure reality for the military men and women who serve for it is not served up on the whim of things like whether or not the Congress will choose to shut down, as opposed to funding the voter’s priorities of border security.
Other than that point, none of the above media critiques are true in the reporting of what the president said or meant.
Don Lemon, do you see anywhere in the quote above that says the president claimed he provided a 10% raise in a single year? Nope. Joe Scarborough and Jim Sciutto you’re both just wrong.
Trump never indicates in his statement that he isolated the raise the troops were receiving under his watch as being accomplished in the calendar year of 2018. Many of the media outlets breathlessly reported that he had said as much, but look at his own words—he didn’t.
What he did imply is that he had given them a raise of roughly 10%. At 2.4% per year times 4 years he will have overseen a raise of 9.6% for the troops in his first term. Comparatively over Obama’s last 4 years that administration served up a whopping 1.25% pay raise per year equalling roughly half of Trump’s raise over an equally comparable period of time.
If Trump’s consistency holds for the duration of two full terms he will deliver up nearly 19.2% in pay increases over the course of his time in office, shattering Obama’s totals.
To be clear the president, after having a bit of jet lag, and having visited with the troops, was inaccurate in the timing of when pay raises have happened. He was correct in that it has been ten years plus since military funding scheduled pay raises—as they should be—budgetarily and with confidence that Congress will fund.
But to be even more clear the president has also given them a huge pay raise—double the size of Obama’s—and rounding out to roughly 10 percent, unless term two rolls around, and then it may end up looking more like 20 percent.
Bottom line is the military men and women who serve this Commander-In-Chief love that, even though the media claimed he’d wouldn’t visit them, he did.
They love even more that he cares enough about them and their welfare that he prioritized their pay increases to be huge—double what they were under Obama—and set to stay that way, at least while he continues to call the shots
Townhall.com ^ | December 28, 2018
BULLSHIT.
Raises are pegged to INFLATION (CPI), the reason raise under Trump is higher is because INFLATION is higher. In REAL terms it's the same raise they always got.
Why Is Inflation So Low? | St. Louis Fed
St. Louis Fed › first-quarter-2018 › why-.
I find it amazing that our ABNORMALS are spending an inordinate amount of time on a very small MISSPOKE by our president
Of course it was a misspoke.....Obomanations 57 states, Hawaii is in ASIA, “I don’t know what the term is in Austrian” (well this one just shows you the LOW IQ of the mulatto!)....dozens more, and all of them more aggrevious than what Trump said!!!....but please keep it up, the entertainment value of you ABNORMALS losing your minds over this is TREMENDOUS!!!....Especially YOU, Antonym!....LOLOLOLO!!I find it amazing that our ABNORMALS are spending an inordinate amount of time on a very small MISSPOKE by our president
MISSPOKE?
No, THIS was maybe a "MISSPOKE", back in MAY
Trump misleads about military pay raises - CNNPolitics
This recent re-oocurance of the BS he already told before, is obviously an intentional lie:
"You protect us. We are always going to protect you. And you just saw that, 'cause you just got one of the biggest pay raises you've ever received. ... You haven't gotten one in more than 10 years. More than 10 years. And we got you a big one. I got you a big one. I got you a big one."
"They had plenty of people that came up, they said, 'You know, we could make it smaller. We could make it 3%, we could make it 2%, we could make it 4%,'" Trump told the troops about the latest pay raise. "I said, 'No. Make it 10%. Make it more than 10%.'" 'Cause it's been a long time, it's been more than 10 years. Been more than 10 years, that's a long time,"
Of course it was a misspoke.....Obomanations 57 states, Hawaii is in ASIAI find it amazing that our ABNORMALS are spending an inordinate amount of time on a very small MISSPOKE by our president
MISSPOKE?
No, THIS was maybe a "MISSPOKE", back in MAY
Trump misleads about military pay raises - CNNPolitics
This recent re-oocurance of the BS he already told before, is obviously an intentional lie:
"You protect us. We are always going to protect you. And you just saw that, 'cause you just got one of the biggest pay raises you've ever received. ... You haven't gotten one in more than 10 years. More than 10 years. And we got you a big one. I got you a big one. I got you a big one."
"They had plenty of people that came up, they said, 'You know, we could make it smaller. We could make it 3%, we could make it 2%, we could make it 4%,'" Trump told the troops about the latest pay raise. "I said, 'No. Make it 10%. Make it more than 10%.'" 'Cause it's been a long time, it's been more than 10 years. Been more than 10 years, that's a long time,"
You ABNORMALS have your priorities all fucked up....American Communists...ALL!!!...Why not TRY working for America?Of course it was a misspoke.....Obomanations 57 states, Hawaii is in ASIAI find it amazing that our ABNORMALS are spending an inordinate amount of time on a very small MISSPOKE by our president
MISSPOKE?
No, THIS was maybe a "MISSPOKE", back in MAY
Trump misleads about military pay raises - CNNPolitics
This recent re-oocurance of the BS he already told before, is obviously an intentional lie:
"You protect us. We are always going to protect you. And you just saw that, 'cause you just got one of the biggest pay raises you've ever received. ... You haven't gotten one in more than 10 years. More than 10 years. And we got you a big one. I got you a big one. I got you a big one."
"They had plenty of people that came up, they said, 'You know, we could make it smaller. We could make it 3%, we could make it 2%, we could make it 4%,'" Trump told the troops about the latest pay raise. "I said, 'No. Make it 10%. Make it more than 10%.'" 'Cause it's been a long time, it's been more than 10 years. Been more than 10 years, that's a long time,"
Obama kept claiming 57 states, because he wanted to boast???
Because thats what Trump is doing when he is REPEATEDLY and FALSELY keeps boasting about himself giving the millitary a big big raise, a first in 10 years.
Stop embarassing yourself, no one is buying your bullshit.
You ABNORMALS have your priorities all fucked up....American Communists...ALL!!!...Why not TRY working for America?Of course it was a misspoke.....Obomanations 57 states, Hawaii is in ASIAI find it amazing that our ABNORMALS are spending an inordinate amount of time on a very small MISSPOKE by our president
MISSPOKE?
No, THIS was maybe a "MISSPOKE", back in MAY
Trump misleads about military pay raises - CNNPolitics
This recent re-oocurance of the BS he already told before, is obviously an intentional lie:
"You protect us. We are always going to protect you. And you just saw that, 'cause you just got one of the biggest pay raises you've ever received. ... You haven't gotten one in more than 10 years. More than 10 years. And we got you a big one. I got you a big one. I got you a big one."
"They had plenty of people that came up, they said, 'You know, we could make it smaller. We could make it 3%, we could make it 2%, we could make it 4%,'" Trump told the troops about the latest pay raise. "I said, 'No. Make it 10%. Make it more than 10%.'" 'Cause it's been a long time, it's been more than 10 years. Been more than 10 years, that's a long time,"
Obama kept claiming 57 states, because he wanted to boast???
Because thats what Trump is doing when he is REPEATEDLY and FALSELY keeps boasting about himself giving the millitary a big big raise, a first in 10 years.
Stop embarassing yourself, no one is buying your bullshit.
Thank you for proving you're a little man?, with an even smaller mind!You ABNORMALS have your priorities all fucked up....American Communists...ALL!!!...Why not TRY working for America?Of course it was a misspoke.....Obomanations 57 states, Hawaii is in ASIAI find it amazing that our ABNORMALS are spending an inordinate amount of time on a very small MISSPOKE by our president
MISSPOKE?
No, THIS was maybe a "MISSPOKE", back in MAY
Trump misleads about military pay raises - CNNPolitics
This recent re-oocurance of the BS he already told before, is obviously an intentional lie:
"You protect us. We are always going to protect you. And you just saw that, 'cause you just got one of the biggest pay raises you've ever received. ... You haven't gotten one in more than 10 years. More than 10 years. And we got you a big one. I got you a big one. I got you a big one."
"They had plenty of people that came up, they said, 'You know, we could make it smaller. We could make it 3%, we could make it 2%, we could make it 4%,'" Trump told the troops about the latest pay raise. "I said, 'No. Make it 10%. Make it more than 10%.'" 'Cause it's been a long time, it's been more than 10 years. Been more than 10 years, that's a long time,"
Obama kept claiming 57 states, because he wanted to boast???
Because thats what Trump is doing when he is REPEATEDLY and FALSELY keeps boasting about himself giving the millitary a big big raise, a first in 10 years.
Stop embarassing yourself, no one is buying your bullshit.
Thats right, you put that tail between your legs and deflect, deflect, deflect...
Trump lied, retard. There have been pay raises every year for the past ten years.Hold on Tipsy... you're wasting good facts on triggered morons.The military personnel knows whether or not they got a raise.
US Troops Just Scored Their Largest Pay Raise In Nearly A Decade
No matter how many times Democrat socialists deny there was a raise those enjoying the increase know better.
They're having fun in their triggered circle jerk right now...
I know, because it affects my military retirement paycheck, you stupid fuck.
And Trump lied about a ten percent raise.
Jesus, you people are stunning in your willful stupidity and blindness. Absolutely stunning.
Trump could shit in your mouth and tell you it was a Hostess Cupcake, and you would say, "Yummy!"
I've never seen such groveling submissive twats in all my life.
And now we know you are a liar and are not receiving a military retirement payment as you just claimed, because military retirement pay is based on your final pay + a few other things + annual COL increases that have zero to do with what raises current military members get in their pay.
And you would know that if you were actually retired military.
