Trump Lies To Troops About Giant Pay Raise He Never Got Them

[deanrd]

Funny how Republicans claim to support the troops and yet, they encourage the president to lie to the very same troops they claim to support.

 

[Asclepias]

The problem here is three pronged.

First let's put some blame on Trump, he absolutely plays fast and loose with the facts when he's promoting himself. He doesn't tell lies like "No , we don't spy on Americans" or "no we haven't weaponized the IRS" he tells dumb lies like "My crowd was the BIGGEST I tell you" or "I got you the biggest raise in the history of the world I tell you what"

The second portion of blame goes to the media who relentlessly attack everything the man says and accuse him of telling lies of epic proportions every time he opens his mouth. They can't give him one fucking break, one benefit of the doubt, or one single bit of respite from the attacks For fuck sakes he was visiting US troops in a war zone on Christmas fucking day, do you think you can put your politics aside and shut your mouth for one day Don Lemon?

And the third portion of blame goes to the average idiotic Democrat who eats this shit up and just teehees and hoots and hollers whenever the media tells them to instead of at least on occasion simply saying "you know what who gives a fuck if Trump lied about crowd size?" and going on with their fucking lives.

Wow! Who gives a fuck if the POTUS is such a liar he lies about silly non important shit like crowd size? Did you really just ask that?

I'll tell you who. People who know that if you lie about simple silly shit then that becomes a habit which then translates to you lying about major shit just as a reaction to avoid ridicule or consequence. Basically lying about simple shit means you lack character, you lack the most fundamental aspect of leadership, and you lack a spine. All things you dont want in a leader of any group let alone a nation.

 

[Lakhota]

Trump lied to the troops! No one can spin that away!

Politifact: Did Donald Trump sign the first military pay raise in 10 years?

 

[JimH52]

His supposed lies. Only a distraction from the FAKE NEWS!

Amazing that man can lie....mislead....go back on his word and you leg humpers can't see it.....called the cult mentality I guess....If you watch some stock film from 1930's Germany....you will see the same type of denials.

 

[conserveguy877]

This fake news bot OP is good at reaching.

 

[JimH52]

This fake news bot OP is good at reaching.

He lied....he knows he lied....and YOU know he lied. But you keep denying it...if that helps you sleep at night....

 

[Lakhota]

This fake news bot OP is good at reaching.

He lied....he knows he lied....and YOU know he lied. But you keep denying it...if that helps you sleep at night....

Meanwhile, Trump is sinking like a rock in the polls.

 

[The Purge]

It is 10% over 4 yrs. I wish he would read from what his communication writers give him vs. speaking off the cuff WITHOUT finishing the thought!

We don’t have four year budgets

Nice try though

Projected....lame brain!

Show me the projected four year budget

Projected, as long as Trump is president...might be 15% for 6 years!!!!...ROTFLMFAO!!!!

 

[conserveguy877]

This fake news bot OP is good at reaching.

He lied....he knows he lied....and YOU know he lied. But you keep denying it...if that helps you sleep at night....

Meanwhile, Trump is sinking like a rock in the polls.

Oh great, talking about miscued polls now. Desperate reach there.

 

[The Purge]

Trump Did NOT Lie to the Troops, Media Types Just Can’t Add!

Many gaping mouths, including embittered and now unemployed never-Trumpers, made breathless claims Thursday about the president lying to the troops. Naturally, these claims were then echoed across liberal media.

But he didn’t.

They claimed he bald-faced disrespected and lied to their faces while visiting them in Iraq (something many of them just hours before were claiming he’d never do), are so insanely obsessed with catching Trump doing something “wrong,” that they never seem to understand that sometimes his inaccurate specificity undersells the truth.

They just always assume the worst so he can then regularly not only correct the record but then demonstrate the way in which he is over performing as president.

They have a hard time accepting this if they anchor shows on the two cable networks that continue to fall behind Fox News Channel (even when their audiences are combined.)

But here are the details.

President Trump said: "You protect us. We are always going to protect you. And you just saw that, 'cause you just got one of the biggest pay raises you've ever received. ... You haven't gotten one in more than 10 years. More than 10 years. And we got you a big one. I got you a big one. I got you a big one.”

Later he went on to say: "They had plenty of people that came up, they said, 'You know, we could make it smaller. We could make it 3%, we could make it 2%, we could make it 4%,'" Trump told the troops about the latest pay raise. "I said, 'No. Make it 10%. Make it more than 10%.’"

Neither statement is accurate, when taken out of context, but neither is also completely inaccurate either.

Nevertheless that didn’t stop the media.

Don Lemon of CNN: "Even in a combat zone, this president can’t tell the truth, lying right to their faces. Telling them he got a 10% pay raise this year. And that it was the first they got in ten years. That’s a lie."

Joe Scarborough of MSNBC: "The President also lied about pushing through a huge pay raise for the troops. I don’t get it. Because it’s not true. It’s not even close to being true.”

Jim Sciutto of CNN: “He said that he gave them their first pay raise in ten years, and that he gave them a pay raise of ten percent—not true.”


The Hill: “Trump incorrectly claims military pay hasn’t gone up for 10 years."

So where’s the truth?

The most problematic part of what Trump said is that he was in fact mistaken in his first statement. The military has received pay raises annually. For six of the eight years that Obama was president they received a paltry 1-1.7% raise per year. Even when you factor in the first two years' raises under Obama of 3%+, Obama’s average raise for the military was 1.9% per year. In President Trump’s first three years he has averaged 2.4%. He also conflated the “not getting a raise” to the bill he signed in September of this year, which for the first time in a decade, did not tie raises and spending for the military to a “continuing resolution” but rather became a hardened budgetary item. This sense of permanence in where the funding comes from is a more secure reality for the military men and women who serve for it is not served up on the whim of things like whether or not the Congress will choose to shut down, as opposed to funding the voter’s priorities of border security.

Other than that point, none of the above media critiques are true in the reporting of what the president said or meant.

Don Lemon, do you see anywhere in the quote above that says the president claimed he provided a 10% raise in a single year? Nope. Joe Scarborough and Jim Sciutto you’re both just wrong.

Trump never indicates in his statement that he isolated the raise the troops were receiving under his watch as being accomplished in the calendar year of 2018. Many of the media outlets breathlessly reported that he had said as much, but look at his own words—he didn’t.

What he did imply is that he had given them a raise of roughly 10%. At 2.4% per year times 4 years he will have overseen a raise of 9.6% for the troops in his first term. Comparatively over Obama’s last 4 years that administration served up a whopping 1.25% pay raise per year equalling roughly half of Trump’s raise over an equally comparable period of time.

If Trump’s consistency holds for the duration of two full terms he will deliver up nearly 19.2% in pay increases over the course of his time in office, shattering Obama’s totals.

To be clear the president, after having a bit of jet lag, and having visited with the troops, was inaccurate in the timing of when pay raises have happened. He was correct in that it has been ten years plus since military funding scheduled pay raises—as they should be—budgetarily and with confidence that Congress will fund.

But to be even more clear the president has also given them a huge pay raise—double the size of Obama’s—and rounding out to roughly 10 percent, unless term two rolls around, and then it may end up looking more like 20 percent.

Bottom line is the military men and women who serve this Commander-In-Chief love that, even though the media claimed he’d wouldn’t visit them, he did.

They love even more that he cares enough about them and their welfare that he prioritized their pay increases to be huge—double what they were under Obama—and set to stay that way, at least while he continues to call the shots

Townhall.com ^ | December 28, 2018

BULLSHIT.

Raises are pegged to INFLATION (CPI), the reason raise under Trump is higher is because INFLATION is higher. In REAL terms it's the same raise they always got.

Another asshole ABNORMAL...INFLATION!!!...LOLOLOL

Why Is Inflation So Low? | St. Louis Fed
St. Louis Fed › first-quarter-2018 › why-.

 

[Lakhota]

It is 10% over 4 yrs. I wish he would read from what his communication writers give him vs. speaking off the cuff WITHOUT finishing the thought!

We don’t have four year budgets

Nice try though

Projected....lame brain!

Show me the projected four year budget

Projected, as long as Trump is president...might be 15% for 6 years!!!!...ROTFLMFAO!!!!

You rang the stupid bell. You can't unring it. Trump lied. End of story.

 

[JimH52]

It is 10% over 4 yrs. I wish he would read from what his communication writers give him vs. speaking off the cuff WITHOUT finishing the thought!

We don’t have four year budgets

Nice try though

Projected....lame brain!

Show me the projected four year budget

Projected, as long as Trump is president...might be 15% for 6 years!!!!...ROTFLMFAO!!!!

Oh...is that how it works. If my employer says that I am getting a 20% increase in salary....he means 20% over 4 years? Is that what he meant?

Good Grief....you Assholes find amazing ways to justify his lies....and I thought HE was the one with a mental disorder...

 

[JimH52]

It is 10% over 4 yrs. I wish he would read from what his communication writers give him vs. speaking off the cuff WITHOUT finishing the thought!

We don’t have four year budgets

Nice try though

Projected....lame brain!

Show me the projected four year budget

Projected, as long as Trump is president...might be 15% for 6 years!!!!...ROTFLMFAO!!!!

You rang the stupid bell. You can't unring it. Trump lied. End of story.

BAZINGA!

 

[rightwinger]

The problem here is three pronged.

First let's put some blame on Trump, he absolutely plays fast and loose with the facts when he's promoting himself. He doesn't tell lies like "No , we don't spy on Americans" or "no we haven't weaponized the IRS" he tells dumb lies like "My crowd was the BIGGEST I tell you" or "I got you the biggest raise in the history of the world I tell you what"

The second portion of blame goes to the media who relentlessly attack everything the man says and accuse him of telling lies of epic proportions every time he opens his mouth. They can't give him one fucking break, one benefit of the doubt, or one single bit of respite from the attacks For fuck sakes he was visiting US troops in a war zone on Christmas fucking day, do you think you can put your politics aside and shut your mouth for one day Don Lemon?

And the third portion of blame goes to the average idiotic Democrat who eats this shit up and just teehees and hoots and hollers whenever the media tells them to instead of at least on occasion simply saying "you know what who gives a fuck if Trump lied about crowd size?" and going on with their fucking lives.

Wow! Who gives a fuck if the POTUS is such a liar he lies about silly non important shit like crowd size? Did you really just ask that?

I'll tell you who. People who know that if you lie about simple silly shit then that becomes a habit which then translates to you lying about major shit just as a reaction to avoid ridicule or consequence. Basically lying about simple shit means you lack character, you lack the most fundamental aspect of leadership, and you lack a spine. All things you dont want in a leader of any group let alone a nation.

No President in my lifetime has less credibility than Trump

 

[The Purge]

It is 10% over 4 yrs. I wish he would read from what his communication writers give him vs. speaking off the cuff WITHOUT finishing the thought!

We don’t have four year budgets

Nice try though

Projected....lame brain!

Show me the projected four year budget

Projected, as long as Trump is president...might be 15% for 6 years!!!!...ROTFLMFAO!!!!

Oh...is that how it works. If my employer says that I am getting a 20% increase in salary....he means 20% over 4 years? Is that what he meant?

Good Grief....you Assholes find amazing ways to justify his lies....and I thought HE was the one with a mental disorder...

Could be, but I see you owing him money!!

 

[rightwinger]

It is 10% over 4 yrs. I wish he would read from what his communication writers give him vs. speaking off the cuff WITHOUT finishing the thought!

We don’t have four year budgets

Nice try though

Projected....lame brain!

Show me the projected four year budget

Projected, as long as Trump is president...might be 15% for 6 years!!!!...ROTFLMFAO!!!!

Oh...is that how it works. If my employer says that I am getting a 20% increase in salary....he means 20% over 4 years? Is that what he meant?

Good Grief....you Assholes find amazing ways to justify his lies....and I thought HE was the one with a mental disorder...

Like the Polish Million Dollar Lottery.....a dollar a year for a million years

Trumps military pay raise ........I didn’t say how many years
I meant 10 percent over ten years

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Trump Did NOT Lie to the Troops, Media Types Just Can’t Add!

Many gaping mouths, including embittered and now unemployed never-Trumpers, made breathless claims Thursday about the president lying to the troops. Naturally, these claims were then echoed across liberal media.

But he didn’t.

They claimed he bald-faced disrespected and lied to their faces while visiting them in Iraq (something many of them just hours before were claiming he’d never do), are so insanely obsessed with catching Trump doing something “wrong,” that they never seem to understand that sometimes his inaccurate specificity undersells the truth.

They just always assume the worst so he can then regularly not only correct the record but then demonstrate the way in which he is over performing as president.

They have a hard time accepting this if they anchor shows on the two cable networks that continue to fall behind Fox News Channel (even when their audiences are combined.)

But here are the details.

President Trump said: "You protect us. We are always going to protect you. And you just saw that, 'cause you just got one of the biggest pay raises you've ever received. ... You haven't gotten one in more than 10 years. More than 10 years. And we got you a big one. I got you a big one. I got you a big one.”

Later he went on to say: "They had plenty of people that came up, they said, 'You know, we could make it smaller. We could make it 3%, we could make it 2%, we could make it 4%,'" Trump told the troops about the latest pay raise. "I said, 'No. Make it 10%. Make it more than 10%.’"

Neither statement is accurate, when taken out of context, but neither is also completely inaccurate either.

Nevertheless that didn’t stop the media.

Don Lemon of CNN: "Even in a combat zone, this president can’t tell the truth, lying right to their faces. Telling them he got a 10% pay raise this year. And that it was the first they got in ten years. That’s a lie."

Joe Scarborough of MSNBC: "The President also lied about pushing through a huge pay raise for the troops. I don’t get it. Because it’s not true. It’s not even close to being true.”

Jim Sciutto of CNN: “He said that he gave them their first pay raise in ten years, and that he gave them a pay raise of ten percent—not true.”


The Hill: “Trump incorrectly claims military pay hasn’t gone up for 10 years."

So where’s the truth?

The most problematic part of what Trump said is that he was in fact mistaken in his first statement. The military has received pay raises annually. For six of the eight years that Obama was president they received a paltry 1-1.7% raise per year. Even when you factor in the first two years' raises under Obama of 3%+, Obama’s average raise for the military was 1.9% per year. In President Trump’s first three years he has averaged 2.4%. He also conflated the “not getting a raise” to the bill he signed in September of this year, which for the first time in a decade, did not tie raises and spending for the military to a “continuing resolution” but rather became a hardened budgetary item. This sense of permanence in where the funding comes from is a more secure reality for the military men and women who serve for it is not served up on the whim of things like whether or not the Congress will choose to shut down, as opposed to funding the voter’s priorities of border security.

Other than that point, none of the above media critiques are true in the reporting of what the president said or meant.

Don Lemon, do you see anywhere in the quote above that says the president claimed he provided a 10% raise in a single year? Nope. Joe Scarborough and Jim Sciutto you’re both just wrong.

Trump never indicates in his statement that he isolated the raise the troops were receiving under his watch as being accomplished in the calendar year of 2018. Many of the media outlets breathlessly reported that he had said as much, but look at his own words—he didn’t.

What he did imply is that he had given them a raise of roughly 10%. At 2.4% per year times 4 years he will have overseen a raise of 9.6% for the troops in his first term. Comparatively over Obama’s last 4 years that administration served up a whopping 1.25% pay raise per year equalling roughly half of Trump’s raise over an equally comparable period of time.

If Trump’s consistency holds for the duration of two full terms he will deliver up nearly 19.2% in pay increases over the course of his time in office, shattering Obama’s totals.

To be clear the president, after having a bit of jet lag, and having visited with the troops, was inaccurate in the timing of when pay raises have happened. He was correct in that it has been ten years plus since military funding scheduled pay raises—as they should be—budgetarily and with confidence that Congress will fund.

But to be even more clear the president has also given them a huge pay raise—double the size of Obama’s—and rounding out to roughly 10 percent, unless term two rolls around, and then it may end up looking more like 20 percent.

Bottom line is the military men and women who serve this Commander-In-Chief love that, even though the media claimed he’d wouldn’t visit them, he did.

They love even more that he cares enough about them and their welfare that he prioritized their pay increases to be huge—double what they were under Obama—and set to stay that way, at least while he continues to call the shots

Townhall.com ^ | December 28, 2018

BULLSHIT.

Raises are pegged to INFLATION (CPI), the reason raise under Trump is higher is because INFLATION is higher. In REAL terms it's the same raise they always got.

Another asshole ABNORMAL...INFLATION!!!...LOLOLOL

Why Is Inflation So Low? | St. Louis Fed
St. Louis Fed › first-quarter-2018 › why-.

You idiot...the comparison being made was inflation in the last year versus the last ten...damn you are a moron...

 

[The Purge]

Trump Did NOT Lie to the Troops, Media Types Just Can’t Add!

Many gaping mouths, including embittered and now unemployed never-Trumpers, made breathless claims Thursday about the president lying to the troops. Naturally, these claims were then echoed across liberal media.

But he didn’t.

They claimed he bald-faced disrespected and lied to their faces while visiting them in Iraq (something many of them just hours before were claiming he’d never do), are so insanely obsessed with catching Trump doing something “wrong,” that they never seem to understand that sometimes his inaccurate specificity undersells the truth.

They just always assume the worst so he can then regularly not only correct the record but then demonstrate the way in which he is over performing as president.

They have a hard time accepting this if they anchor shows on the two cable networks that continue to fall behind Fox News Channel (even when their audiences are combined.)

But here are the details.

President Trump said: "You protect us. We are always going to protect you. And you just saw that, 'cause you just got one of the biggest pay raises you've ever received. ... You haven't gotten one in more than 10 years. More than 10 years. And we got you a big one. I got you a big one. I got you a big one.”

Later he went on to say: "They had plenty of people that came up, they said, 'You know, we could make it smaller. We could make it 3%, we could make it 2%, we could make it 4%,'" Trump told the troops about the latest pay raise. "I said, 'No. Make it 10%. Make it more than 10%.’"

Neither statement is accurate, when taken out of context, but neither is also completely inaccurate either.

Nevertheless that didn’t stop the media.

Don Lemon of CNN: "Even in a combat zone, this president can’t tell the truth, lying right to their faces. Telling them he got a 10% pay raise this year. And that it was the first they got in ten years. That’s a lie."

Joe Scarborough of MSNBC: "The President also lied about pushing through a huge pay raise for the troops. I don’t get it. Because it’s not true. It’s not even close to being true.”

Jim Sciutto of CNN: “He said that he gave them their first pay raise in ten years, and that he gave them a pay raise of ten percent—not true.”


The Hill: “Trump incorrectly claims military pay hasn’t gone up for 10 years."

So where’s the truth?

The most problematic part of what Trump said is that he was in fact mistaken in his first statement. The military has received pay raises annually. For six of the eight years that Obama was president they received a paltry 1-1.7% raise per year. Even when you factor in the first two years' raises under Obama of 3%+, Obama’s average raise for the military was 1.9% per year. In President Trump’s first three years he has averaged 2.4%. He also conflated the “not getting a raise” to the bill he signed in September of this year, which for the first time in a decade, did not tie raises and spending for the military to a “continuing resolution” but rather became a hardened budgetary item. This sense of permanence in where the funding comes from is a more secure reality for the military men and women who serve for it is not served up on the whim of things like whether or not the Congress will choose to shut down, as opposed to funding the voter’s priorities of border security.

Other than that point, none of the above media critiques are true in the reporting of what the president said or meant.

Don Lemon, do you see anywhere in the quote above that says the president claimed he provided a 10% raise in a single year? Nope. Joe Scarborough and Jim Sciutto you’re both just wrong.

Trump never indicates in his statement that he isolated the raise the troops were receiving under his watch as being accomplished in the calendar year of 2018. Many of the media outlets breathlessly reported that he had said as much, but look at his own words—he didn’t.

What he did imply is that he had given them a raise of roughly 10%. At 2.4% per year times 4 years he will have overseen a raise of 9.6% for the troops in his first term. Comparatively over Obama’s last 4 years that administration served up a whopping 1.25% pay raise per year equalling roughly half of Trump’s raise over an equally comparable period of time.

If Trump’s consistency holds for the duration of two full terms he will deliver up nearly 19.2% in pay increases over the course of his time in office, shattering Obama’s totals.

To be clear the president, after having a bit of jet lag, and having visited with the troops, was inaccurate in the timing of when pay raises have happened. He was correct in that it has been ten years plus since military funding scheduled pay raises—as they should be—budgetarily and with confidence that Congress will fund.

But to be even more clear the president has also given them a huge pay raise—double the size of Obama’s—and rounding out to roughly 10 percent, unless term two rolls around, and then it may end up looking more like 20 percent.

Bottom line is the military men and women who serve this Commander-In-Chief love that, even though the media claimed he’d wouldn’t visit them, he did.

They love even more that he cares enough about them and their welfare that he prioritized their pay increases to be huge—double what they were under Obama—and set to stay that way, at least while he continues to call the shots

Townhall.com ^ | December 28, 2018

BULLSHIT.

Raises are pegged to INFLATION (CPI), the reason raise under Trump is higher is because INFLATION is higher. In REAL terms it's the same raise they always got.

Another asshole ABNORMAL...INFLATION!!!...LOLOLOL

Why Is Inflation So Low? | St. Louis Fed
St. Louis Fed › first-quarter-2018 › why-.

You idiot...the comparison being made was inflation in the last year versus the last ten...damn you are a moron...

Dumb bastard where does it say anything about inflation over the last 10' years in that post?....fucking low 2 digit IQ monkey right there!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Dumb bastard where does it say anything about inflation over the last 10' years in that post?.

By comparing the current pay raises with others over the last ten years, and saying they are related to inflation?

If you can't figure that out, then you are the moron I think you are.

 

[The Purge]

Dumb bastard where does it say anything about inflation over the last 10' years in that post?.

By comparing the current pay raises with others over the last ten years, and saying they are related to inflation?

If you can't figure that out, then you are the moron I think you are.

So you didn't SAY SHIT! THANKS for admitting you're a douchebag!