trump losing opinion in shutdown....Bigly

Trump Is Losing the Shutdown Fight in a Rout

Why would the Dems in the House want to give him anything after January 3rd? trump's next co-written book should be "The Art of the Fail"


He's shown us just how incompetent he is at making a deal.
After he bragged endlessly about how great a negotiator he is.
He's using threats and coercion.
He's the biggest fucking loser outside the stupid idiots who voted for him.
Nancy Pelosi is showing us just what a real hoax is....Donald J. Trump.
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The military pay checks have already been funded.

The Democrat socialists latest lie is that Americans want unlimited immigration of the worthless.

The next one, they will have to wait if shutdown carried over into 2019.

How a Government Shutdown Will Impact the Military Community

Military Pay
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The 1.3 million service members affected would, in the event of a government shutdown, continue to be required on duty and operate normally at first. But paychecks would be delayed if the government shutdown lasts beyond the next pay date following the shutdown.

Congress could pass legislation that would require the military to be paid in the manner they were during a shutdown in 2013; “Military personnel will not be paid until such time as Congress makes appropriated funds available to compensate them for this period of service,” according to the DoD.

During the last shutdown many financial institutions that support current and former servicemembers offered advanced pay or assistance. USAA has already made an announcement and other military-affiliated financial institutions are anticipated to do the same. Check with your financial institution.

Banks

Military friendly banks will often offer a no-interest, 0% Annual Percentage Rate (APR) payroll advance to military personnel with existing direct deposit at USAA. Banks will provide a onetime payroll advance loan to cover pay or benefits to the following groups, as long as those payments are direct deposited at the bank:

  • Active duty
  • Guard and Reserve
  • Military retirees
Policies vary by bank so always check with your bank to see if they have any special contingencies or offers for government shutdown occurrences.

Retired & Survivor Benefit Plan Pay

Military Retirees and Survivor Benefit Plan recipients would, in the event of a shutdown, still receive their pension checks as the funding for these benefits is NOT tied to Congress’s funding bill. After previous shutdowns, Veteran Affairs lobbied Congress to fund the VA on a two-year budget cycle which exempts the department.

“The VA is in a fortunate situation in that we have what’s called an advanced appropriations so we get our money a year ahead of time because I think Congress understands that the VA can’t shut down, that we are there for the safety of our veterans.” said former VA Secretary David Shulkin.

VA Disability Pay, GI Bill Benefits, SGLI Payments

Similar to retiree pay VA disability, GI Bill benefits and SGLI payments will continue. However support for claims and assistance may be limited.

My Career Advancement Accounts

Financial assistance requests will be continue to be approved. In addition, Spouse Education and Career Opportunities career coaches will continue to be available to provide comprehensive education and career counseling services.

Thrift Savings Plan

The TSP will continue its normal daily operations during a federal government shutdown. Read the TSP fact sheet Effect of Nonpay Status on Your TSP Account to get answers to questions about the shutdown’s impact on TSP contributions, loans, and withdrawals.

Death Gratuities

Families for troops killed in action would not receive the $100,000 death benefit during the shutdown or military funded travel for funeral or memorial services.

Coast Guard

The Coast Guard is the only branch of the military whose members will go without pay during the government shutdown unless there is a resolution by Friday, December 28th. Approximately 42,000 active-duty military members of the Coast Guard will work without pay, until further notice, during the partial government shutdown. The Coast Guard is the only part of the military under the Department of Homeland Security, rather than the Department of Defense which continues to be funded during the shutdown.

Military Reservist

US military reservists training will be canceled during the shutdown.

DoD Civilians

“Civilian employees paid for lapsed appropriations and who are not necessary to carry out or support excepted activities will be furloughed, i.e., placed in a nonwork, nonpay status” according to the DoD. The Department of Defense employs approximately 750,000 civilian personnel. Employees being furloughed and not receiving back pay include military spouses, retirees and other veterans.

Contracted Personnel

Existing personnel contracts signed and appropriated would continue, but new contracts would not be executed.

PCS & TDY

Permanent change-of-station moves and temporary duty travel is subject to cancellation except for activities determined to be essential to national security.

Healthcare

Military treatment facilities, pharmacies, laboratories and on-base healthcare will remain open and treatment will continue. However, routine appoints and elective surgery appointments will be cancelled and need to be rescheduled. Private sector Tricare will not be impacted by the shutdown nor would medical care for wounded servicemembers. The VA healthcare system including hundreds of hospitals and outpatient clinics will remain fully operational.

Care Packages, Armed Forces Network

During the last shutdown care packages were held back in some regions as well as Armed Forces Network Channels due to reduced staffing. These services and other comfort services may be reduced or cutoff again.

Commissaries, Exchanges, MWR

Military exchanges will be open worldwide.

Military exchanges will be open worldwide.

Morale, Welfare and Recreation programs, non-appropriated fund activities and other operations necessary to support those activities not affected by a shutdown would continue. Examples of these excepted activities are operation of dining facilities, physical training and child care activities required to support readiness.

Stateside commissaries will follow an orderly shutdown to reduce the amount of perishables on hand and properly safeguard equipment and facilities. Overseas commissaries will remain open, including two stores in Guam and one in Puerto Rico. Commissaries in five remote stateside locations also remain open: Marine Corps Mountain Warfare Training Center Bridgeport and Fort Irwin in California; Coast Guard Station Kodiak and Fort Greely in Alaska; and Dugway Proving Ground, Utah.

Government Shutdown & Impact to Military, Veterans | Military Benefits




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Congress for over a decade now has violated US Law, which requires them to pass a budget annually, not a continuing resolution' - both parties are to blame.

That being said, if American govt workers aren't getting paid during the shutdown CONGRESS should not be paid during the shutdown.


You are finally making sense. I agree.

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Trump Is Losing the Shutdown Fight in a Rout

Why would the Dems in the House want to give him anything after January 3rd? trump's next co-written book should be "The Art of the Fail"


He's shown us just how incompetent he is at making a deal.
After he bragged endlessly about how great a negotiator he is.
He's using threats and coercion.
He's the biggest fucking loser outside the stupid idiots who voted for him.
Nancy Pelosi is showing us just what a real hoax is....Donald J. Trump.
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Nancy Pelosi does not even know what day it is.:21::21::21::21::21::21::21:
 
Are you considered "essential government personnel" and working for free until the government reopens so you can get your back pay? Some of the people in the lower ranks with families live paycheck to paycheck, and compounding that on top of Christmas bills is gonna be kinda rough.

Of course his supporters focus on welfare queens, EBT's etc......conveniently missing....

1/2 million fed employees...read 'em..>>>

News about #ShutdownStories on Twitter

so while Trump ,who's never had to live paychech to paycheck his entire life holds them (and us by proxy) hostage to a shutdown solely for partisan purposes, many of these folks struggle to survive , as well as serve us despite him

trump-wall-shutdown.jpg
 
Trump Is Losing the Shutdown Fight in a Rout

Why would the Dems in the House want to give him anything after January 3rd? trump's next co-written book should be "The Art of the Fail"


He's shown us just how incompetent he is at making a deal.
After he bragged endlessly about how great a negotiator he is.
He's using threats and coercion.
He's the biggest fucking loser outside the stupid idiots who voted for him.
Nancy Pelosi is showing us just what a real hoax is....Donald J. Trump.
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Yup...Nancy is going to show him what a real negotiator looks like. He has been screwing and cheating people for years. Pelosi will teach him a few lesson the DC way....
 
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Are you considered "essential government personnel" and working for free until the government reopens so you can get your back pay? Some of the people in the lower ranks with families live paycheck to paycheck, and compounding that on top of Christmas bills is gonna be kinda rough.

Of course his supporters focus on welfare queens, EBT's etc......conveniently missing....

1/2 million fed employees...read 'em..>>>

News about #ShutdownStories on Twitter

so while Trump ,who's never had to live paychech to paycheck his entire life holds them (and us by proxy) hostage to a shutdown solely for partisan purposes, many of these folks struggle to survive , as well as serve us despite him

trump-wall-shutdown.jpg

The Liar in Chief said anything to get elected...just like he paid off a couple women in order to get elected.....

S C U M....
 
Trump must be hoping the rest of the country has a short memory like his drone collective does.
 
Are you considered "essential government personnel" and working for free until the government reopens so you can get your back pay? Some of the people in the lower ranks with families live paycheck to paycheck, and compounding that on top of Christmas bills is gonna be kinda rough.

Of course his supporters focus on welfare queens, EBT's etc......conveniently missing....

1/2 million fed employees...read 'em..>>>

News about #ShutdownStories on Twitter

so while Trump ,who's never had to live paychech to paycheck his entire life holds them (and us by proxy) hostage to a shutdown solely for partisan purposes, many of these folks struggle to survive , as well as serve us despite him

trump-wall-shutdown.jpg

The Liar in Chief said anything to get elected...just like he paid off a couple women in order to get elected.....

S C U M....

You afraid Trump gonna take away your welfare ?:21::21::21::21::21::21::21::290968001256257790-final:
 
What is your personal solution? What do you think should be done to address the debt problem?

Do you believe in personal responsibility?

well then, let's extend that notion to those who are increasing our GND

take it outta THEIR pocket proportional to them taking outta our kids pockets, and the prob would be solved

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What is the new house going to do to address the debt problem?

Probably nothing, just like the old House

What is your personal solution? What do you think should be done to address the debt problem?

Trump posting a $4 Trillion $$$$ deficit aint the fucking answer, but since the damn Republicans pat his ass 24/7 and ignore his bs they shouldnt even mention THE WORD DEBT.

The Reps passed the debt bill , over 2000 pages in less that 48 hrs, yes they had to pass it to read it , but that's not all

After it was voted in, the go off on this fiscal conservative binge

evil is as evil does

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Are you considered "essential government personnel" and working for free until the government reopens so you can get your back pay? Some of the people in the lower ranks with families live paycheck to paycheck, and compounding that on top of Christmas bills is gonna be kinda rough.

Of course his supporters focus on welfare queens, EBT's etc......conveniently missing....

1/2 million fed employees...read 'em..>>>

News about #ShutdownStories on Twitter

so while Trump ,who's never had to live paychech to paycheck his entire life holds them (and us by proxy) hostage to a shutdown solely for partisan purposes, many of these folks struggle to survive , as well as serve us despite him

trump-wall-shutdown.jpg

The Liar in Chief said anything to get elected...just like he paid off a couple women in order to get elected.....

S C U M....

You afraid Trump gonna take away your welfare ?:21::21::21::21::21::21::21::290968001256257790-final:


You have no idea that many fed employees, Coast Gaurd for one, are still on the job despite being called 'non essential'

How's about Trump send his security home instead

Joining with the rest of America being 'out of services' would be honorable

Sequestering himself from us with it all is not

Leaders my dear lad, lead by example

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A good number of Goverment workers are worthless, good time to get rid of there sorry worthless asses now, and save the goverment money, time to thin the herd of these waste of lazy and incompetent assholes, and keep the few that try to do a good job.
 
What is the new house going to do to address the debt problem?

Probably nothing, just like the old House

What is your personal solution? What do you think should be done to address the debt problem?

Trump posting a $4 Trillion $$$$ deficit aint the fucking answer, but since the damn Republicans pat his ass 24/7 and ignore his bs they shouldnt even mention THE WORD DEBT.

Merp merp merp

We all know Trump is a piece of shit.

What will Dems do to save the economy now that they are in power?
 
What is the new house going to do to address the debt problem?

Probably nothing, just like the old House

What is your personal solution? What do you think should be done to address the debt problem?

Spending cuts across the board, from the military to the welfare state. Nobody is immune.


That is a great start obviously, but get rid of all tax expenditures for all people and corporations that costs us about $1.4 trillion a year!
 
What is the new house going to do to address the debt problem?

Probably nothing, just like the old House

What is your personal solution? What do you think should be done to address the debt problem?

Trump posting a $4 Trillion $$$$ deficit aint the fucking answer, but since the damn Republicans pat his ass 24/7 and ignore his bs they shouldnt even mention THE WORD DEBT.

Merp merp merp

We all know Trump is a piece of shit.

What will Dems do to save the economy now that they are in power?

You guys are such cowards.

How do we solve the debt problem?
 
What is the new house going to do to address the debt problem?

Probably nothing, just like the old House

What is your personal solution? What do you think should be done to address the debt problem?

Trump posting a $4 Trillion $$$$ deficit aint the fucking answer, but since the damn Republicans pat his ass 24/7 and ignore his bs they shouldnt even mention THE WORD DEBT.

Merp merp merp

We all know Trump is a piece of shit.

What will Dems do to save the economy now that they are in power?

You guys are such cowards.

How do we solve the debt problem?
Build a wall!
 

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