Trump Photo of Bullet Whizzing by - It is VERY UNUSUAL for a photographer to use 1/8000 shutter speed @ 30 FPS in broad daylight.

[excalibur]

When I first encountered the photo of the bullet passing by Trump, and posted it here days ago, something struck me as odd.

Now, I am not a photographic expert by any means, but it struck me as that had to be a special speed on a camera to catch that bullet.

And now others have raised the issue, why indeed would you have it [your camera] set at 1/8000 @30 FPS to be taking pictures at a rally in the daytime?

 

[tyroneweaver]

you can hear a bullitt break the sound barrier when its close enough
But in most cases when you hear it, it's to late.

 

[Burgermeister]

It's not that unusual.

 

[toobfreak]

When I first encountered the photo of the bullet passing by Trump, and posted it here days ago, something struck me as odd.
Now, I am not a photographic expert by any means, but it struck me as that had to be a special speed on a camera to catch that bullet.
And now others have raised the issue, why indeed would you have it [your camera] set at 1/8000 @30 FPS to be taking pictures at a rally in the daytime?

Actually, considering the velocity of an AR bullet fired 400 feet, it would take a shutter speed of 1/4000th of a second to freeze the bullet trail at about 9.6 inches, which is about what the photo shows and this is about the correct shutter speed a photographer would use in bright afternoon light to assure getting clear, sharp pictures of live action targets on stage.

 

[marvin martian]

When I first encountered the photo of the bullet passing by Trump, and posted it here days ago, something struck me as odd.

Now, I am not a photographic expert by any means, but it struck me as that had to be a special speed on a camera to catch that bullet.

And now others have raised the issue, why indeed would you have it [your camera] set at 1/8000 @30 FPS to be taking pictures at a rally in the daytime?

I'm pretty sure that's HD digital, not film. A digital "shutter" is different from a film camera shutter.

 

[pknopp]

When shooting wide open which would be the case here, you have to compensate by increasing shutter speed.

 

[Donald H]

Good point!

But if the bullet was photoshopped into the picture, it would have been done accurately according to bullet speed and shutter time.

I'm no longer an amateur photographer but I sort of recollect that 1/500 or 1/1000 would be good on getting some depth of field.

D. of. f is something that can determine shutter speed!

 

[Donald H]

I'm pretty sure that's HD digital, not film. A digital "shutter" is different from a film camera shutter.

It's obviously different but it's likely that shutter speed would be the same. ??

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

When I first encountered the photo of the bullet passing by Trump, and posted it here days ago, something struck me as odd.

Now, I am not a photographic expert by any means, but it struck me as that had to be a special speed on a camera to catch that bullet.

And now others have raised the issue, why indeed would you have it [your camera] set at 1/8000 @30 FPS to be taking pictures at a rally in the daytime?

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Almost like he expected for such a thing to happen?

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[Votto]

When I first encountered the photo of the bullet passing by Trump, and posted it here days ago, something struck me as odd.

Now, I am not a photographic expert by any means, but it struck me as that had to be a special speed on a camera to catch that bullet.

And now others have raised the issue, why indeed would you have it [your camera] set at 1/8000 @30 FPS to be taking pictures at a rally in the daytime?

The same reason all the major networks were covering the Trump rally when none had any real interest to do so beforehand

Funny that.

 

[Godboy]

When I first encountered the photo of the bullet passing by Trump, and posted it here days ago, something struck me as odd.

Now, I am not a photographic expert by any means, but it struck me as that had to be a special speed on a camera to catch that bullet.

And now others have raised the issue, why indeed would you have it [your camera] set at 1/8000 @30 FPS to be taking pictures at a rally in the daytime?

I said it immediately after that picture went online... that isnt the bullet. Its disintregrated flesh and blood, and probably some vapor too that flew in the wake of the bullet.

 

[excalibur]

Actually, considering the velocity of an AR bullet fired 400 feet, it would take a shutter speed of 1/4000th of a second to freeze the bullet trail at about 9.6 inches, which is about what the photo shows and this is about the correct shutter speed a photographer would use in bright afternoon light to assure getting clear, sharp pictures of live action targets on stage.

He said he had it set at 1/8000.

Ironic, your usage of 'live action targets'.

 

[Rogue AI]

Probably not unusual, liberals are always seeking the most unflattering pictures of Trump possible. It is all about trying to create a negative image with still shots that aren't subject to context or reality.

 

[excalibur]

I was preparing to reach out to the photographer. Hunting and pecking online, I found New York Times quoting the shutter speed at 1/8000th of second.

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Am not suggesting anything at all. Just as a war correspondent…I never cranked shutter that high even for anything. I wanted to keep ISO lower. Other professionals choose other settings.​

 

[tyroneweaver]

Good point!

But if the bullet was photoshopped into the picture, it would have been done accurately according to bullet speed and shutter time.

I'm no longer an amateur photographer but I sort of recollect that 1/500 or 1/1000 would be good on getting some depth of field.

D. of. f is something that can determine shutter speed!

I'm a reloader. Most of my .223 rnds travel in the range of 2700 per second
1100 ft per sec is the sound barrier

 

[excalibur]

From the NY Times itself.

Mr. Mills was using a Sony digital camera capable of capturing images at up to 30 frames per second. He took these photos with a shutter speed of 1/8,000th of a second — extremely fast by industry standards.​

Photo Appears to Capture Path of Bullet Used in Assassination Attempt

Michael Harrigan, a retired F.B.I. special agent, said the image captured by Doug Mills, a New York Times photographer, seems to show a bullet streaking past former President Donald J. Trump.

www.nytimes.com

 

[kyzr]

My observation is that the bullet is not in the photo.

What we see is the vapor trail of blood from Trump's ear, vaporized and visible in the bright sunlight.

A more interesting observation to me is the flat trajectory of the bullet that was supposedly fired from the top of a roof.

 

[marvin martian]

It's obviously different but it's likely that shutter speed would be the same. ??

No. A mechanical shutter is completely different from digital capture. Digital imaging goes through immediate post-processing when the image is captured.

 

[excalibur]

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You understand this from experience.​

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Doug Mills the bullet-trace photographer is actually using the same camera I have beside me. Sony Alpha 1. That’s the best camera money can buy for stuff like this: https://vod.foxnews.com/media/v1/pm...cb104102-e2b7-4ad4-90d0-235ef0b12be0/main.mp4​

 

[excalibur]

My observation is that the bullet is not in the photo.

What we see is the vapor trail of blood from Trump's ear, vaporized and visible in the bright sunlight.

A more interesting observation to me is the flat trajectory of the bullet that was supposedly fired from the top of a roof.

NY Times and experts disagree.