Trump pulls out of Syria then lies about defeating Isis

[nat4900]

No argument from me......BUT, would you concede that the job for Russia, Turkey and Iran has gotten a hell of a lot easier?

In what way did those 2,000 troops make the job for Russia, Turkey and Iran hard? While answering, bear in mind that the U.S. of A. has demonstrated, time and again, and in the most conclusive way over the recent years, that it lacks the will to do anything decisive to change the outcome in Syria. Also bear in mind that Assad, with the help of the aforementioned worthies, already has complete control over the country, with the exception of a few tiny enclaves, and they were, and are, on their way to control it all. The last Daesh strongholds are about to be rounded up, the Kurds are in negotiations with Assad, and the few square miles the Americans control are insignificant.

So? I still can't see the "BIG favor".

I'm not here to convince Trump acolytes of anything......

We'll see if Russia enlarges its base in Syria....or not

We'll see if ISIS returns with a vengeance....or not

We'll see if the Turks go after the Kurds......or not

We'll see if Iran's influence/fiscal backing with Hezbollah increases.....or not

 

[theHawk]

Here's a bit of a "silver lining" in Trump's latest fuck-up......

Most GOP senators are thoroughly pissed at Trump.......thereby removing the remaining stumbling block that Trump ass kissers were counting on on the senate voting against the upcoming house impeachment discourse.....

That Trump sure is a "deal-maker," isn't he????.......................LOL

Wow, now Natty speaks for “most GOP Senators.”

Uh-huh....

The TDS is strong in this one.

 

[theHawk]

So now that Trump is against continued foreign intervention in Syria you're suddenly a war mongering neo-con chickenhawk?

Moronic "conclusion"...as expected.

No, I am against Trump doing BIG favors to Putin, Erdogan and the Iranian mullahs,

Perhaps you should too......lol

So by not getting us into more stupid wars like Hillary and the Hussein, we are “doing favors” for Erdofag and Putin. And you dumbfucks still wonder why you lost the election.

 

[Olde Europe]

I'm not here to convince Trump acolytes of anything......

We'll see if Russia enlarges its base in Syria....or not

We'll see if ISIS returns with a vengeance....or not

We'll see if the Turks go after the Kurds......or not

We'll see if Iran's influence/fiscal backing with Hezbollah increases.....or not

I am a Trump acolyte now? Chuckling here...

All the things you describe above may happen, or not. What you need to demonstrate is that they would not have happened, the decisions you describe would not have been made, specifically because of 2,000 U.S. troops sitting somewhere in the region basically trying to train some folks. That is to say, even in case they happen, it isn't necessarily because of Trump.

The U.S. never had that big a role, never had that much influence, in Syria. The U.S. did not "defeat" Daesh. Just as before, the U.S. can still reduce every single place in that country to rubble. That is to say, the change isn't that big, the neo-cons' screeching about the lost U.S. manhood notwithstanding.

Whatever.

Let's agree to disagree on that one, shall we?

 

[whitehall]

A brief insight into the left's strategy: "what to do when headlines are killing you". The dirty little secret is that hypocrite lefties whine about Trump's alleged collusion with foreign governments while they are willing or duped accomplices in spreading foreign based propaganda intended to undermine the administration. Watch out for links that credit unnamed anonymous "sources" for in headlines that are intended to kill.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Faun only cares about ISRAEL.

That's why our troops are there, and that's why he wants to keep them there.

What is the US national interest in staying in Syria?

THERE ISN'T ONE....

This is 100% about ZIONIST TRAITORS caring about ISRAEL and not about the US.

speaking of that Trump has got the zioinists pissed,this poster on youtube NAILED it.lol

the zionist puppet army ISIS ( Israeli Secret Intelligence Service) has been smashed by Syrian, Russian and Iranian forces.

 

[LaDexter]

It is what it is, ISIS that is....

 

[Oldstyle]

So in your world Obama defeated Iraq right before an election and pulled out?

No, in the real world of reality and hard facts, Bush declared victory (the second big lie) and set the exact date that all trooos had to be pulled out.

Obama carried out the agreement Bush negotiated with the SOVEREIGN nation of Iraq. That SOVEREIGNTY is what Bush declared to be the victory since the WMD THING was all a lie according to Trumpo.

And you continue to bitch and moan because Obama recognized and honored Iraq’s SOVEREIGNTY before the time that anyone recognized ISIS to be any kind of threat.

That's total bullshit! Obama didn't pull out troops because he "recognized and honored Iraq's SOVEREIGNTY"...he pulled out troops because he wanted to run for reelection as the President who pulled our combat troops out of the Middle East! Barry couldn't have care less about Iraq's "sovereignty"! It was all about politics. Obama's military leaders recognized the kind of problems a premature withdrawal might create...it's why they advised him to leave a minimum of 30,000 combat troops in Iraq to stabilize things. Barry didn't care. He pooh poohed ISIS as the JV and left the Middle East unprotected. His political decision...designed to help him get reelected...cost untold pain and suffering in the Middle East!

 

[Claudette]

So in your world Obama defeated Iraq right before an election and pulled out?

No, in the real world of reality and hard facts, Bush declared victory (the second big lie) and set the exact date that all trooos had to be pulled out.

Obama carried out the agreement Bush negotiated with the SOVEREIGN nation of Iraq. That SOVEREIGNTY is what Bush declared to be the victory since the WMD THING was all a lie according to Trumpo.

And you continue to bitch and moan because Obama recognized and honored Iraq’s SOVEREIGNTY before the time that anyone recognized ISIS to be any kind of threat.

That's total bullshit! Obama didn't pull out troops because he "recognized and honored Iraq's SOVEREIGNTY"...he pulled out troops because he wanted to run for reelection as the President who pulled our combat troops out of the Middle East! Barry couldn't have care less about Iraq's "sovereignty"! It was all about politics. Obama's military leaders recognized the kind of problems a premature withdrawal might create...it's why they advised him to leave a minimum of 30,000 combat troops in Iraq to stabilize things. Barry didn't care. He pooh poohed ISIS as the JV and left the Middle East unprotected. His political decision...designed to help him get reelected...cost untold pain and suffering in the Middle East!

Bingo

 

[nat4900]

Wow, now Natty speaks for “most GOP Senators.”

Uh-huh....

The TDS is strong in this one.

Hey, moron....check with what Sasse, Corker, Graham are saying about your orange clown's decision....

Of course, you can also just crawl under your bed........LOL

 

[Oldstyle]

Obama presents plan to pull 10 times as many troops out, Johnlaw is not butthurt.

That was Bush’s plan, ya dumbass...

Notice the date... November 17th, 2008

Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq

1. All the United States Forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory no later than December 31, 2011.​

You dumb ass Obama didn't have to pull out we were an invading army


.

Of course he had to withdraw. Bush made an agreement on behalf of the U.S. to do so. Our word as a country is shit if we don’t honor our agreements. Not that honor means anything to you mentally lazy cult members. On top of which, Iraq refused to give our troops immunity. Had even one member of our military been arrested there, you same yahoos calling for Obama to violate the peace agreement would have been calling for his impeachment.

Of course, I’m explaining this to the forum dolt who struggles to spell the word, “you’re,” so I know understanding any of this is well beyond your G-d given limitations.

Our word as a country? LOL The leaders of Iraq didn't want us to pull all the combat troops out. They understood how vulnerable that would leave them. They couldn't say so publicly especially when they knew that Obama would never rework the Status of Forces Agreement because it provided him with an excuse TO pull out combat troops! If Obama had truly wanted a new agreement...he would have gotten one.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Trump pulls out of Syria that surprises his military generals, then lies about defeating Isis and throws US policy in turmoil. Trump has single handedly strengthened Russia and Isis in one stroke.

He truly is a Donald Dumbass.



Trump shocks allies and advisers with plan to pull US troops out of Syria

Pulling out of Syria is not a problem, if you want to call him Donald Dumbass
then that would be for giving up on the wall while giving Mexico and South America 11 Billion dollars

That would be Congress giving that money to the facilitators of our invaders. Trump said he will gladly take the blame for shutting down the government....and now he can take the blame for 'caving in' so quickly, but not for coming up with the idea of rewarding those countries.

He already caved on the shut down. He lasted a whole week. What a pussy.

So you wanted the Wall?

Your previous posts communicated something different.

I didn't want any wall. What has that got to do with Trump being a pussy?

You are saying Trump is a pussy for not doing what you didn’t want done.

Seems to me that you are the pussy.

Anyone who cries about something not getting done they didn’t want done in the first place comes across as a pussy to me.

“Oh no! I really didn’t want that highway built next to my house, but our mayor was too much of a pussy to do it. God I hate him for doing what I wanted.”

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Oldstyle, post: 21426449

Obama didn't pull out troops because he "recognized and honored Iraq's SOVEREIGNTY".

How can you say that Obama did not honor and recognize Iraq’s sovereign and final decision that all US troops had to leave Iraq in accordance with the 2008 agreement that Bush signed?

You wanted Obama to keep troops there and other loons say Obama could have kept them there through the use of Military force against Iraqis. That is not a scenario that can in any way be described as respecting Iraq’s sovereignty.

Why are you lying about that?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Oldstyle, post: 21426479

The leaders of Iraq didn't want us to pull all the combat troops out.

You are a bold faced liar. Everything you say about Obama’s is a lie, but this is utterly rediculous.

No Iraqi leader would grant immunity and it was known that Iraq’s Parliament had no where near enough votes to approve an immunity Ststus of Forces Agreement.

You lies are despicable.

You must hate troops too if you want them to stay in Iraq without being immune to Iraq law.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

So now Trump is colluding with the Mullahs too? Boy, he sure gets around.

Naahhhh.....Trump is not smart enough to collude with the mullahs......Since he is an idiot, his decisions have unexpected consequences..........Hezbollah and ISIS may soon have comfortable bases in Syria.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Wow, now Natty speaks for “most GOP Senators.”

Uh-huh....

The TDS is strong in this one.

Hey, moron....check with what Sasse, Corker, Graham are saying about your orange clown's decision....

Of course, you can also just crawl under your bed........LOL

Lindsay Graham is a neocon extraordinaire. If it were up to him we'd be bogged down in wars on every continent.

Amazing how the left becomes the neocons the moment Trump becomes the antiwar guy. Bush should have had Trump come out against the Iraq War in 2002 and then all of you would have supported it instead of protesting it for six years.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

So in your world Obama defeated Iraq right before an election and pulled out?

No, in the real world of reality and hard facts, Bush declared victory (the second big lie) and set the exact date that all trooos had to be pulled out.

Obama carried out the agreement Bush negotiated with the SOVEREIGN nation of Iraq. That SOVEREIGNTY is what Bush declared to be the victory since the WMD THING was all a lie according to Trumpo.

And you continue to bitch and moan because Obama recognized and honored Iraq’s SOVEREIGNTY before the time that anyone recognized ISIS to be any kind of threat.

That's total bullshit! Obama didn't pull out troops because he "recognized and honored Iraq's SOVEREIGNTY"...he pulled out troops because he wanted to run for reelection as the President who pulled our combat troops out of the Middle East! Barry couldn't have care less about Iraq's "sovereignty"! It was all about politics. Obama's military leaders recognized the kind of problems a premature withdrawal might create...it's why they advised him to leave a minimum of 30,000 combat troops in Iraq to stabilize things. Barry didn't care. He pooh poohed ISIS as the JV and left the Middle East unprotected. His political decision...designed to help him get reelected...cost untold pain and suffering in the Middle East!

Bingo

This is why Obama didnt keep 2000 to 5000 US troops in Iraq after 2011. There is no other reason that you lying haters can make up.

Iraq Denies Legal Immunity to U.S. Troops After 2011

By TIM ARANGO and MICHAEL S. SCHMIDTOCT. 4, 2011

• Iraq’s political leaders announced late Tuesday that they had agreed on the need to keep American military trainers in Iraq next year, but they declared that any remaining troops should not be granted immunity from Iraqi law, a point the United States has said would be a deal breaker.
  

Continue reading the main story



Obama was negotiated to the end but the sovereign Iraqis refused to concede on the immunity deal breaker.

Now stop repeating the lies that Rush Limbaugh taught you.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Trump pulls out of Syria that surprises his military generals, then lies about defeating Isis and throws US policy in turmoil. Trump has single handedly strengthened Russia and Isis in one stroke.

He truly is a Donald Dumbass.



Trump shocks allies and advisers with plan to pull US troops out of Syria

 

[Wyatt earp]

So in your world Obama defeated Iraq right before an election and pulled out?

No, in the real world of reality and hard facts, Bush declared victory (the second big lie) and set the exact date that all trooos had to be pulled out.

Obama carried out the agreement Bush negotiated with the SOVEREIGN nation of Iraq. That SOVEREIGNTY is what Bush declared to be the victory since the WMD THING was all a lie according to Trumpo.

And you continue to bitch and moan because Obama recognized and honored Iraq’s SOVEREIGNTY before the time that anyone recognized ISIS to be any kind of threat.

That's total bullshit! Obama didn't pull out troops because he "recognized and honored Iraq's SOVEREIGNTY"...he pulled out troops because he wanted to run for reelection as the President who pulled our combat troops out of the Middle East! Barry couldn't have care less about Iraq's "sovereignty"! It was all about politics. Obama's military leaders recognized the kind of problems a premature withdrawal might create...it's why they advised him to leave a minimum of 30,000 combat troops in Iraq to stabilize things. Barry didn't care. He pooh poohed ISIS as the JV and left the Middle East unprotected. His political decision...designed to help him get reelected...cost untold pain and suffering in the Middle East!

Bingo

This is why Obama didnt keep 2000 to 5000 US troops in Iraq after 2011. There is no other reason that you lying haters can make up.

Iraq Denies Legal Immunity to U.S. Troops After 2011

By TIM ARANGO and MICHAEL S. SCHMIDTOCT. 4, 2011

• Iraq’s political leaders announced late Tuesday that they had agreed on the need to keep American military trainers in Iraq next year, but they declared that any remaining troops should not be granted immunity from Iraqi law, a point the United States has said would be a deal breaker.

Continue reading the main story



Obama was negotiated to the end but the sovereign Iraqis refused to concede on the immunity deal breaker.

Now stop repeating the lies that Rush Limbaugh taught you.

Cool story , now tell us the law they made to stop the US from invading them?



Once again Obama sent in troops before an agreement was made


.

 

[U2Edge]

Trump pulls out of Syria that surprises his military generals, then lies about defeating Isis and throws US policy in turmoil. Trump has single handedly strengthened Russia and Isis in one stroke.

He truly is a Donald Dumbass.



Trump shocks allies and advisers with plan to pull US troops out of Syria

Russia and Syria have nearly wiped out ISIS, knucklehead....There's no call for Murica to be there in yet another undeclared war.

Russia and Syria spent most of their time fighting non-ISIS elements in Syria. ISIS was their lowest priority. The vast majority of ISIS forces that have been killed an captured in Iraq and Syria were done so by U.S. forces or U.S. back forces!