Trump says Pelosi is responsible for January 6 debacle, J6 committee wouldn't question her

[nomadic5]

Trump alleges Pelosi turned down 10,000 soldiers ahead of Capitol riot: 'She’s responsible for Jan 6'

Former President Donald Trump alleges former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi "turned down 10,000 soldiers" before Jan. 6, blaming her for the Capitol riot.

www.foxnews.com

The ms media don't seem to report this kind of information. What a shock?! Whoda thunk they could be such political hacks? It's just unbelievable! We always thought they were objective reporters

ha ha

NOT

 

[DGS49]

Well there is no question that a stronger "police" presence would have prevented anyone from getting into the Capitol. And Pelosi definitely had the power to do that.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Trump alleges Pelosi turned down 10,000 soldiers ahead of Capitol riot: 'She’s responsible for Jan 6'

Former President Donald Trump alleges former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi "turned down 10,000 soldiers" before Jan. 6, blaming her for the Capitol riot.

www.foxnews.com

The ms media don't seem to report this kind of information. What a shock?! Whoda thunk they could be such political hacks? It's just unbelievable! We always thought they were objective reporters

ha ha

NOT

PolitiFact and other fact checkers have debunked numerous claims contending Pelosi alone was responsible for Capitol security. Davis’ claim pointed to the speaker’s role in directing Capitol security leaders, rather than all of Capitol security. But it’s still highly misleading.

Pelosi no more responsible for Capitol security decisions than McConnell​

The House and Senate sergeants-at-arms, who are nominated by each chamber’s leader and elected by chamber members, serve as the Capitol’s chief law enforcement officers for their respective chambers. Each makes decisions for the Capitol Police Board, which oversees the Capitol’s police force in concert with several House and Senate committees, including one on which Davis sits.

The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the House speaker just as the Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader, but there is no indication Pelosi controls day-to-day security operations. So we reached out to Davis’ office to ask what he was talking about.
Citing a Feb. 1 letter from Sund to Pelosi, Davis spokesman Aaron DeGroot responded in an email that the former police chief "alone could not request National Guard support because he ‘had no authority to do so without an Emergency Declaration by the Capitol Police Board.’ Requesting National Guard support is a major security decision, and it’s one that even the Speaker’s office admits they were involved in."

That description is accurate. According to a bipartisan Senate report on the Jan. 6 attack, the Capitol police chief "has no unilateral authority to request assistance from the National Guard" and "must submit a request for assistance to the Capitol Police Board for approval." Likewise, as DeGroot noted, Pelosi’s office has said Irving did request the speaker’s permission to call on the National Guard.
However, those facts do not prove Pelosi made all the calls on how Sund, Irving, and the other members of the Capitol Police Board responded to the crisis — most notably because then-Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger, who reported to then-Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell at the time, also played an active role.

As Sund noted in his letter to Pelosi, the police chief "notified the two Sergeant at Arms" around 1 p.m. on Jan. 6 that he "urgently needed support." Despite confusion over the statutory process for requesting National Guard assistance, both Irving and Stenger eventually approved Sund’s request to call for backup at 2:10 p.m., according to the Senate report.

Prior to that approval being granted, the New York Times reported, aides to both congressional leaders "were perplexed to learn that the two sergeants-at-arms had not yet approved the request for troops, according to spokesmen for Mr. McConnell and Ms. Pelosi."
"The speaker expects security professionals to make security decisions and to be informed of those decisions," Pelosi spokesman Drew Hammill told the Times.

Davis said "we know that the speaker’s office was calling the shots on all of" the actions taken by the officials in charge of Capitol security on Jan. 6.
As evidence, his office highlighted the fact that then-House Sergeant-at-Arms Irving requested approval from Pelosi before greenlighting the Capitol police chief’s request to call in the National Guard.

But Davis and his spokesman ignored a critical detail: the decision to approve that request and call for backup was not Irving’s call alone. It was made in conjunction with the Senate sergeant-at-arms, who reports to the Senate majority leader. At the time, that was McConnell.

We rate Davis’ claim Mostly False.

Fact check: Did Pelosi control Capitol police during January 6 attack?

Congressman Rodney Davis (R-Ill) said "Former Capitol Police Chief Steve Sund has testified that Irving was concerned as many have said about the 'optics,' and we know that the speaker's office was calling the shots on all of their actions on Jan. 6." PolitiFact checks his claim.

www.wral.com

 

[candycorn]

Trump alleges Pelosi turned down 10,000 soldiers ahead of Capitol riot: 'She’s responsible for Jan 6'

Former President Donald Trump alleges former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi "turned down 10,000 soldiers" before Jan. 6, blaming her for the Capitol riot.

www.foxnews.com

The ms media don't seem to report this kind of information. What a shock?! Whoda thunk they could be such political hacks? It's just unbelievable! We always thought they were objective reporters

ha ha

NOT

The blob was commander in chief; not the Speaker of the House.

 

[Oldestyle]

PolitiFact and other fact checkers have debunked numerous claims contending Pelosi alone was responsible for Capitol security. Davis’ claim pointed to the speaker’s role in directing Capitol security leaders, rather than all of Capitol security. But it’s still highly misleading.

Pelosi no more responsible for Capitol security decisions than McConnell​

The House and Senate sergeants-at-arms, who are nominated by each chamber’s leader and elected by chamber members, serve as the Capitol’s chief law enforcement officers for their respective chambers. Each makes decisions for the Capitol Police Board, which oversees the Capitol’s police force in concert with several House and Senate committees, including one on which Davis sits.

The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the House speaker just as the Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader, but there is no indication Pelosi controls day-to-day security operations. So we reached out to Davis’ office to ask what he was talking about.
Citing a Feb. 1 letter from Sund to Pelosi, Davis spokesman Aaron DeGroot responded in an email that the former police chief "alone could not request National Guard support because he ‘had no authority to do so without an Emergency Declaration by the Capitol Police Board.’ Requesting National Guard support is a major security decision, and it’s one that even the Speaker’s office admits they were involved in."

That description is accurate. According to a bipartisan Senate report on the Jan. 6 attack, the Capitol police chief "has no unilateral authority to request assistance from the National Guard" and "must submit a request for assistance to the Capitol Police Board for approval." Likewise, as DeGroot noted, Pelosi’s office has said Irving did request the speaker’s permission to call on the National Guard.
However, those facts do not prove Pelosi made all the calls on how Sund, Irving, and the other members of the Capitol Police Board responded to the crisis — most notably because then-Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger, who reported to then-Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell at the time, also played an active role.

As Sund noted in his letter to Pelosi, the police chief "notified the two Sergeant at Arms" around 1 p.m. on Jan. 6 that he "urgently needed support." Despite confusion over the statutory process for requesting National Guard assistance, both Irving and Stenger eventually approved Sund’s request to call for backup at 2:10 p.m., according to the Senate report.

Prior to that approval being granted, the New York Times reported, aides to both congressional leaders "were perplexed to learn that the two sergeants-at-arms had not yet approved the request for troops, according to spokesmen for Mr. McConnell and Ms. Pelosi."
"The speaker expects security professionals to make security decisions and to be informed of those decisions," Pelosi spokesman Drew Hammill told the Times.

Davis said "we know that the speaker’s office was calling the shots on all of" the actions taken by the officials in charge of Capitol security on Jan. 6.
As evidence, his office highlighted the fact that then-House Sergeant-at-Arms Irving requested approval from Pelosi before greenlighting the Capitol police chief’s request to call in the National Guard.

But Davis and his spokesman ignored a critical detail: the decision to approve that request and call for backup was not Irving’s call alone. It was made in conjunction with the Senate sergeant-at-arms, who reports to the Senate majority leader. At the time, that was McConnell.

We rate Davis’ claim Mostly False.

Fact check: Did Pelosi control Capitol police during January 6 attack?

Congressman Rodney Davis (R-Ill) said "Former Capitol Police Chief Steve Sund has testified that Irving was concerned as many have said about the 'optics,' and we know that the speaker's office was calling the shots on all of their actions on Jan. 6." PolitiFact checks his claim.

www.wral.com

You do realize that Politifact is heavily slanted towards the left, 60's? Citing them as "proof" that Pelosi didn't drop the ball on Jan. 6th is amusing but doesn't really prove anything. The Capitol Police Chief called Pelosi's office 30 times over a 90 minute period of time trying to get approval to bring in the National Guard. Want to take a crack at explaining why Nancy Pelosi wouldn't give that a quick yes?

 

[Moonglow]

How many more stupid threads on the stupid Trump claim?

 

[Moonglow]

The blob was commander in chief; not the Speaker of the House.

They seem to think Trump was powerless to do anything.

 

[Marener]

Trump alleges Pelosi turned down 10,000 soldiers ahead of Capitol riot: 'She’s responsible for Jan 6'

Former President Donald Trump alleges former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi "turned down 10,000 soldiers" before Jan. 6, blaming her for the Capitol riot.

www.foxnews.com

The ms media don't seem to report this kind of information. What a shock?! Whoda thunk they could be such political hacks? It's just unbelievable! We always thought they were objective reporters

ha ha

NOT

Why didn’t Trump tell Nancy Pelosi he was going to send tens of thousands of angry protestors to the Capitol?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Trump alleges Pelosi turned down 10,000 soldiers ahead of Capitol riot: 'She’s responsible for Jan 6'

Former President Donald Trump alleges former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi "turned down 10,000 soldiers" before Jan. 6, blaming her for the Capitol riot.

www.foxnews.com

The ms media don't seem to report this kind of information. What a shock?! Whoda thunk they could be such political hacks? It's just unbelievable! We always thought they were objective reporters

ha ha

NOT

Trump is now on record as admitting he was in control and directed everyone.

 

[Moonglow]

Trump is now on record as admitting he was in control and directed everyone.

That means he is trying to take all the blame and clear everyone one else, now that they have been indicted it is a little too late to be the hero.

 

[the other mike]

PolitiFact and other fact checkers have debunked numerous claims contending Pelosi alone was responsible for Capitol security. Davis’ claim pointed to the speaker’s role in directing Capitol security leaders, rather than all of Capitol security. But it’s still highly misleading.

Pelosi no more responsible for Capitol security decisions than McConnell​

The House and Senate sergeants-at-arms, who are nominated by each chamber’s leader and elected by chamber members, serve as the Capitol’s chief law enforcement officers for their respective chambers. Each makes decisions for the Capitol Police Board, which oversees the Capitol’s police force in concert with several House and Senate committees, including one on which Davis sits.

The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the House speaker just as the Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader, but there is no indication Pelosi controls day-to-day security operations. So we reached out to Davis’ office to ask what he was talking about.
Citing a Feb. 1 letter from Sund to Pelosi, Davis spokesman Aaron DeGroot responded in an email that the former police chief "alone could not request National Guard support because he ‘had no authority to do so without an Emergency Declaration by the Capitol Police Board.’ Requesting National Guard support is a major security decision, and it’s one that even the Speaker’s office admits they were involved in."

That description is accurate. According to a bipartisan Senate report on the Jan. 6 attack, the Capitol police chief "has no unilateral authority to request assistance from the National Guard" and "must submit a request for assistance to the Capitol Police Board for approval." Likewise, as DeGroot noted, Pelosi’s office has said Irving did request the speaker’s permission to call on the National Guard.
However, those facts do not prove Pelosi made all the calls on how Sund, Irving, and the other members of the Capitol Police Board responded to the crisis — most notably because then-Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger, who reported to then-Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell at the time, also played an active role.

As Sund noted in his letter to Pelosi, the police chief "notified the two Sergeant at Arms" around 1 p.m. on Jan. 6 that he "urgently needed support." Despite confusion over the statutory process for requesting National Guard assistance, both Irving and Stenger eventually approved Sund’s request to call for backup at 2:10 p.m., according to the Senate report.

Prior to that approval being granted, the New York Times reported, aides to both congressional leaders "were perplexed to learn that the two sergeants-at-arms had not yet approved the request for troops, according to spokesmen for Mr. McConnell and Ms. Pelosi."
"The speaker expects security professionals to make security decisions and to be informed of those decisions," Pelosi spokesman Drew Hammill told the Times.

Davis said "we know that the speaker’s office was calling the shots on all of" the actions taken by the officials in charge of Capitol security on Jan. 6.
As evidence, his office highlighted the fact that then-House Sergeant-at-Arms Irving requested approval from Pelosi before greenlighting the Capitol police chief’s request to call in the National Guard.

But Davis and his spokesman ignored a critical detail: the decision to approve that request and call for backup was not Irving’s call alone. It was made in conjunction with the Senate sergeant-at-arms, who reports to the Senate majority leader. At the time, that was McConnell.

We rate Davis’ claim Mostly False.

Fact check: Did Pelosi control Capitol police during January 6 attack?

Congressman Rodney Davis (R-Ill) said "Former Capitol Police Chief Steve Sund has testified that Irving was concerned as many have said about the 'optics,' and we know that the speaker's office was calling the shots on all of their actions on Jan. 6." PolitiFact checks his claim.

www.wral.com

Speaker of the House outranks the Senate majority leader.

 

[Moonglow]

Speaker of the House outranks the Senate majority leader.

No, they do not they share an equal rank and both legislative bodies are separate and share the Capital.

 

[Zincwarrior]

That means he is trying to take all the blame and clear everyone one else, now that they have been indicted it is a little too late to be the hero.

No he couldn't accept that he is not The Leader at all times.

 

[the other mike]

 

[the other mike]

No, they do not they share an equal rank and both legislative bodies are separate and share the Capital.

Who becomes Commander in Chief if the president and vice president are taken out ?

 

[Moonglow]

Who becomes Commander in Chief if the president and vice president are taken out ?

Trump died?

 

[Oldestyle]

They seem to think Trump was powerless to do anything.

The President can offer the National Guard but that offer needs to be accepted by a Governor of a State or in the case of the District of Columbia...the Speaker of the House and the Senate Leader. Trump offered. Nancy Pelosi declined. Explain that.

 

[Crepitus]

Trump alleges Pelosi turned down 10,000 soldiers ahead of Capitol riot: 'She’s responsible for Jan 6'

Former President Donald Trump alleges former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi "turned down 10,000 soldiers" before Jan. 6, blaming her for the Capitol riot.

www.foxnews.com

The ms media don't seem to report this kind of information. What a shock?! Whoda thunk they could be such political hacks? It's just unbelievable! We always thought they were objective reporters

ha ha

NOT

That lie has been thoroughly debunked.

 

[candycorn]

They seem to think Trump was powerless to do anything.

Trump is, in their mind, never to blame.

 

[the other mike]

That lie has been thoroughly debunked.

Let's say it's the FBIs fault.....before ,during and in the ensuing ongoing cover-up.