Trump Significantly Weakened NATO and Enabled Putin

Afghanistan to terrorists.
Because Biden botched the final withdrawal and had to send troops back in to help get out as many as they could..
OK, so what? AFG wasn't US property in the first place, its the AFGs shit-hole, Trump surrendered nothing.
The AFGs are starving now, hope they are all happy.

Ok, we agree Biden fucked up the final withdrawal. You and I both know Trump would NEVER have left the Tailban $86b of US equipment.
 
Yes, let's ask the U.S. generals...
The collapse of the Afghan government and its security forces can be traced to a 2020 agreement between the Taliban and the Trump administration that promised a complete US troop withdrawal, senior Pentagon officials have told Congress.
I agree with Trump. 20-years in AFG is 18 too many. Tell me you wanted us to stay in AFG forever?
The generals recommended that 2,500 non-combat US advisors remain, Biden didn't listen, he pulled everyone out.
From your link:
"Gen Frank McKenzie, the head of central command, told the House armed services committee that once the US troop presence was pushed below 2,500 as part of President Joe Biden’s decision in April to complete a total withdrawal by September, the unraveling of the US-backed Afghan government accelerated."

p.s. one more point. BOTH Trump and Biden left the AFG army and AFG government adequate resources to defend AFG from the Taliban. The well-equiped and US trained AFG army numbered 300,000 and the Taliban numbered 80,000, yet the army vaporized and the government bailed. Point being, AFG wasn't surrendered by the US, the AFGs surrendered it to the Taliban.
 
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OK, so what? AFG wasn't US property in the first place, its the AFGs shit-hole, Trump surrendered nothing.
The AFGs are starving now, hope they are all happy.

Ok, we agree Biden fucked up the final withdrawal. You and I both know Trump would NEVER have left the Tailban $86b of US equipment.

He surrendered the country. Matters not if it wasn't ours, we were there for 20 years standing up the Afghan government with weapons, money and training. And no, I don't know Trump wouldn't have left without the equipment. A) not only did he not take any out when he had the chance; B) not only was it no longer ours as we gave that to the Afghani government; but C) we couldn't take it out since doing so would have left the Afghani army utterly defenseless; D) we couldn't know the Afghan army would flee and leave all those weapons & equipment behind.
 
I agree with Trump. 20-years in AFG is 18 too many. Tell me you wanted us to stay in AFG forever?
The generals recommended that 2,500 non-combat US advisors remain, Biden didn't listen, he pulled everyone out.
From your link:
"Gen Frank McKenzie, the head of central command, told the House armed services committee that once the US troop presence was pushed below 2,500 as part of President Joe Biden’s decision in April to complete a total withdrawal by September, the unraveling of the US-backed Afghan government accelerated."

How were we supposed to leave 2,500 troops there when Trump made a deal to withdraw all of our troops?

p.s. one more point. BOTH Trump and Biden left the AFG army and AFG government adequate resources to defend AFG from the Taliban. The well-equiped and US trained AFG army numbered 300,000 and the Taliban numbered 80,000, yet the army vaporized and the government bailed. Point being, AFG wasn't surrendered by the US, the AFGs surrendered it to the Taliban.

Now you're arguing with yourself. Earlier, you intimated we should not have left $86 billion in equipment. But now your pointing out we left the equipment for the Afghanistan government and army to defend themselves.

You also said Trump would not have done that. According to you, Trump would have left the Afghani army utterly defenseless. :cuckoo:
 
How were we supposed to leave 2,500 troops there when Trump made a deal to withdraw all of our troops?
Now you're arguing with yourself. Earlier, you intimated we should not have left $86 billion in equipment.
But now your pointing out we left the equipment for the Afghanistan government and army to defend themselves.
You also said Trump would not have done that. According to you, Trump would have left the Afghani army utterly defenseless.
1. Biden abandoned every other Trump deal, which is why the allies hold Biden in CONTEMPT, not Trump. The generals recommended 2,500 and Biden said no. Now you're arguing that a deal made with "terrorists" has to be followed?!
2. The AFG army had adequate equipment w/o the $86b Biden abandoned, it was the equipment used by the US forces, not the AFGs. Biden should be impeached for surrendering that $86b in US military equipment to "terrorists".
"The Times of London reports that the US simply abandoned a truly astounding arsenal of military equipment and weapons. This reportedly includes up to 22,174 Humvee vehicles, nearly 1,000 armored vehicles, 64,363 machine guns, and 42,000 pick-up trucks and SUVs. So, too, the list of allegedly abandoned weaponry includes up to 358,530 assault rifles, 126,295 pistols, and nearly 200 artillery units. Oh, and the Taliban will likely inherit state-of-the-art military helicopters, warplanes, and other aircraft from the US, too."

3. The AFG army was fully armed. They had a garage sale of their weapons. The sign said "Never fired - Dropped once"
 
1. Biden abandoned every other Trump deal, which is why the allies hold Biden in CONTEMPT, not Trump. The generals recommended 2,500 and Biden said no. Now you're arguing that a deal made with "terrorists" has to be followed?!

How did not adhering to it work out? My contention is you don't deal with terrorists, period.

2. The AFG army had adequate equipment w/o the $86b Biden abandoned, it was the equipment used by the US forces, not the AFGs.
"The Times of London reports that the US simply abandoned a truly astounding arsenal of military equipment and weapons. This reportedly includes up to 22,174 Humvee vehicles, nearly 1,000 armored vehicles, 64,363 machine guns, and 42,000 pick-up trucks and SUVs. So, too, the list of allegedly abandoned weaponry includes up to 358,530 assault rifles, 126,295 pistols, and nearly 200 artillery units. Oh, and the Taliban will likely inherit state-of-the-art military helicopters, warplanes, and other aircraft from the US, too."

Your own article betrays you...

The US sent this equipment to Afghanistan to arm the Afghan security forces/alternative government...
 
Putin helped Trump get elected through his campaign of election interference- this was proven fact, BUT they never found evidence to connect this to the Trump campaign.

Trump gave Putin everything he wanted.

Why did Putin want Trump to win the election? Why did putin support trump??

Because Trump was a Putin puppet and Trump weakened the NATO and European alliance and embolden Russia.

This has all backfired Big TIME !! Biden has Strengthened NATO substantially, allied the world against Russia, and made Russia look stupid and weak.

Biden has beaten Trump and now he is beating Putin.

Why was Trump an ally of Putin?? Why did trump like Putin- a clear enemy- so much?? What was Trump's obsession with Russia?
What is the GOP's love affair with Russia?? Trump loves Russia, Trumpers love Russia, the GOP loves Russia?

Trumpers have openly sided with Russia over America. Trash Traitor Trumpers...
GOP traitors::
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The claim that russia helped trump get elected is a lib lie

if MAGA haters believe otherwise thats their problem

Maybe the secret emails from the DNC hurt hillary at the polls

However no one can prove or disprove that it was an inside job or russian hacking

but the collusion lie is just that

a lie
 
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How did not adhering to it work out? My contention is you don't deal with terrorists, period.
Your own article betrays you...

The US sent this equipment to Afghanistan to arm the Afghan security forces/alternative government...
1. Biden's cut and run withdrawal plan was a catastrophe.
Unknown how Trump managing the withdrawal instead of Biden would have been.

2. That article was inconsistent. The AFG army had their own military equipment, they were deployed all over AFG. The article also says:
"But regular government waste pales in comparison to the appalling reality that the US just left billions in taxpayer-purchased military equipment behind in Afghanistan—to fall right into the hands of the Taliban. "

That sounds like "abandoned" US equipment to me, not equipment used by the AFG army. I know I saw video of jets, helicopters, humvees, trucks, lined up at the abandoned Bagram air base.
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Nope, that was proven.
Bullshit. It was never proven that ANY votes were affected.

Trump's presidency was a miracle in itself, the biggest upset in US election history. Hillary and the DNC actually colluded with and paid Russians for "dirt" on Trump, aka the "Steele Dossier". Obama used the power of the DOJ, FBI, CIA and other Federal agencies to illegally spy on and setup Trump for failure. Operations Crossfire Hurricane and Razor, the Mueller Investigation, Russian Collusion Hoax, the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage and "fake news", Never-Trump Republicans, the Lincoln Project, globalists of every stripe, the entrenched Deep State who all oppose Trump's policies, the planted leakers and whistle-blowers, and the RINOs who'd rather shill for K-Street than work for main street. Then add to all of that the outright hatred shown by the House democrats toward Trump, to the point of "non-crime" Impeachment Articles, twice!!
 
Bullshit. It was never proven that ANY votes were affected.

Trump's presidency was a miracle in itself, the biggest upset in US election history. Hillary and the DNC actually colluded with and paid Russians for "dirt" on Trump, aka the "Steele Dossier". Obama used the power of the DOJ, FBI, CIA and other Federal agencies to illegally spy on and setup Trump for failure. Operations Crossfire Hurricane and Razor, the Mueller Investigation, Russian Collusion Hoax, the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage and "fake news", Never-Trump Republicans, the Lincoln Project, globalists of every stripe, the entrenched Deep State who all oppose Trump's policies, the planted leakers and whistle-blowers, and the RINOs who'd rather shill for K-Street than work for main street. Then add to all of that the outright hatred shown by the House democrats toward Trump, to the point of "non-crime" Impeachment Articles, twice!!
The drone of the Right wing noise machine is loud in this one.
 
How were we supposed to leave 2,500 troops there when Trump made a deal to withdraw all of our troops?



Now you're arguing with yourself. Earlier, you intimated we should not have left $86 billion in equipment. But now your pointing out we left the equipment for the Afghanistan government and army to defend themselves.

You also said Trump would not have done that. According to you, Trump would have left the Afghani army utterly defenseless. :cuckoo:
It wasn’t a treaty, Dipshit. Your Vegetable Messiah could have reversed Trumps deal like he did all of his policies on the border and energy.

Post just ONE part of Trump’s deal Veggie Joe followed. None of you morons can ever produce one.
 
1. Biden's cut and run withdrawal plan was a catastrophe.
Unknown how Trump managing the withdrawal instead of Biden would have been.

2. That article was inconsistent. The AFG army had their own military equipment, they were deployed all over AFG. The article also says:
"But regular government waste pales in comparison to the appalling reality that the US just left billions in taxpayer-purchased military equipment behind in Afghanistan—to fall right into the hands of the Taliban. "

That sounds like "abandoned" US equipment to me, not equipment used by the AFG army. I know I saw video of jets, helicopters, humvees, trucks, lined up at the abandoned Bagram air base.
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It's your article. If it's inconsistent, do better next time. Still, it points out the equipment was for Afghanistan.
 
Bullshit. It was never proven that ANY votes were affected.

Trump's presidency was a miracle in itself, the biggest upset in US election history. Hillary and the DNC actually colluded with and paid Russians for "dirt" on Trump, aka the "Steele Dossier". Obama used the power of the DOJ, FBI, CIA and other Federal agencies to illegally spy on and setup Trump for failure. Operations Crossfire Hurricane and Razor, the Mueller Investigation, Russian Collusion Hoax, the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage and "fake news", Never-Trump Republicans, the Lincoln Project, globalists of every stripe, the entrenched Deep State who all oppose Trump's policies, the planted leakers and whistle-blowers, and the RINOs who'd rather shill for K-Street than work for main street. Then add to all of that the outright hatred shown by the House democrats toward Trump, to the point of "non-crime" Impeachment Articles, twice!!

Bullshit. The emails the Russia released caused a split between Hillary Democrats and Bernie Democrats. It's not believable the animosity that caused did not cost Hillary votes.
 
It wasn’t a treaty, Dipshit. Your Vegetable Messiah could have reversed Trumps deal like he did all of his policies on the border and energy.

Post just ONE part of Trump’s deal Veggie Joe followed. None of you morons can ever produce one.

Withdrawing the troops.
 

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