trump the Socialist

[Harpy Eagle]

Nope you said specific families. Our taxes also pay for the military and healthcare for the elderly.

Mr. and Mrs. Gator benefit from the tax cuts, they specifically (at least not yet) have not felt the impact of higher national debt. Ultimately they may but to date they have not. I agree it needs to be addressed asap.

I said the average family, not specific.

We all feel the impact of the higher national debt every time we pay our taxes, the Govt just does a good job of hiding the pain so we do not stop the flow of money

No we do not feel it. So every time the Gov't spends more on military we feel it too? Stop your nonsense. You're digging a giant hole for yourself.

Whether you feel it or not, you are still be hurt by it. We are paying more in taxes than we need to be because of it, that is a simple fact.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Nope you said specific families. Our taxes also pay for the military and healthcare for the elderly.

Mr. and Mrs. Gator benefit from the tax cuts, they specifically (at least not yet) have not felt the impact of higher national debt. Ultimately they may but to date they have not. I agree it needs to be addressed asap.

I said the average family, not specific.

We all feel the impact of the higher national debt every time we pay our taxes, the Govt just does a good job of hiding the pain so we do not stop the flow of money

I doubt anyone contributing actually celebrates our out of control debt...BUT the bulk of the citizenry is not impacted by it at all and most benefit by the accrual in some way.
You and those like you continue to champion the manifestation of a non contributing underclass of citizens and then you expect those same people to have your back in your crusade to end deficit spending and pay back the debt...Are you fucking crazy, stupid or just lost and confused?

 

[BrokeLoser]

You might need to brush-up on you comprehension skills a bit and research "socialism" once again bud.
Our framers intended for us to use public investments for the sake of the GENERAL WELFARE. You didn't know that?

That's an argument used by liberals to promote universal healthcare, social safety nets and free college.

I ask that you please leave our circle.

Again...you beggars struggle to make the distinction between free shit for lowlife, begging degenerates and the GENERAL WELFARE of the nation.

II'm pretty sure I pay my way more than you.

Stop using liberal arguments to promote right wing causes.

Sorry bud...you've already exposed yourself...NOBODY paying and paving their own way begs for others to be robbed for their own personal gain.

Let me repeat myself. Stop using liberal arguments to promote right wing causes.

When you tell people that the 'General Welfare' clause of the Constitution can be used to justify corporate welfare you are doing just that.

gen·er·al
/ˈjen(ə)rəl/

1. affecting or concerning all or most people, places, or things; widespread.
2. the general public.

 

[HappyJoy]

That's an argument used by liberals to promote universal healthcare, social safety nets and free college.

I ask that you please leave our circle.

Again...you beggars struggle to make the distinction between free shit for lowlife, begging degenerates and the GENERAL WELFARE of the nation.

II'm pretty sure I pay my way more than you.

Stop using liberal arguments to promote right wing causes.

Sorry bud...you've already exposed yourself...NOBODY paying and paving their own way begs for others to be robbed for their own personal gain.

Let me repeat myself. Stop using liberal arguments to promote right wing causes.

When you tell people that the 'General Welfare' clause of the Constitution can be used to justify corporate welfare you are doing just that.

gen·er·al
/ˈjen(ə)rəl/

1. affecting or concerning all or most people, places, or things; widespread.
2. the general public.

Yep, you're using a left wing argument for right wing causes. I don't know how many times I need to say this.

If you want to cut taxes for the rich then a typical right wing argument would be "It's their fucking money, I also want to be a selfish asshole one day, but in the meant time I will work against my own best interests."

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Nope you said specific families. Our taxes also pay for the military and healthcare for the elderly.

Mr. and Mrs. Gator benefit from the tax cuts, they specifically (at least not yet) have not felt the impact of higher national debt. Ultimately they may but to date they have not. I agree it needs to be addressed asap.

I said the average family, not specific.

We all feel the impact of the higher national debt every time we pay our taxes, the Govt just does a good job of hiding the pain so we do not stop the flow of money

No we do not feel it. So every time the Gov't spends more on military we feel it too? Stop your nonsense. You're digging a giant hole for yourself.

Whether you feel it or not, you are still be hurt by it. We are paying more in taxes than we need to be because of it, that is a simple fact.

Who is “we”? I am not

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Nope you said specific families. Our taxes also pay for the military and healthcare for the elderly.

Mr. and Mrs. Gator benefit from the tax cuts, they specifically (at least not yet) have not felt the impact of higher national debt. Ultimately they may but to date they have not. I agree it needs to be addressed asap.

I said the average family, not specific.

We all feel the impact of the higher national debt every time we pay our taxes, the Govt just does a good job of hiding the pain so we do not stop the flow of money

No we do not feel it. So every time the Gov't spends more on military we feel it too? Stop your nonsense. You're digging a giant hole for yourself.

Whether you feel it or not, you are still be hurt by it. We are paying more in taxes than we need to be because of it, that is a simple fact.

Who is “we”? I am not

So, you do not pay taxes. Why does that not surprise me about you.

 

[Indeependent]

I suggest Liberals vote Democrat.

 

[Richard-H]

Yea, and George Washington socialized the Army.

Nations are formed to share some risks and responsibilities---like in the United States, build interstate highways.

It does not mean: From each hard working American according to his ability to each porch sitter and illegal alien according his need.

So you think that everyone that collects Social Security and Medicare are porch sitters and illegal aliens?

Perhaps we should just shoot the elder, huh?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

First he socialized the losses of the coal industry facing environmental damage.


Then he socialized the losses of farms due to his trade policies.


Now he is socializing the potential losses due to the coronavirus for airlines, travel agencies and cruise ships.


That is not how capitalism works conservatives.

It's only socialism if it helps people in need, not businesses.

First he socialized the losses of the coal industry facing environmental damage.


Then he socialized the losses of farms due to his trade policies.


Now he is socializing the potential losses due to the coronavirus for airlines, travel agencies and cruise ships.


That is not how capitalism works conservatives.

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

No matter how hard you try you'll never get good real productive Americans to embrace INVESTING in ShaQuita, Guadalupe and their litters of filth...Sorry guys, but we like ROi...we take great pride in investing in the military, infrastructure, our food sources, commerce and job creators....You know...the GENERAL WELFARE of our nation just as the founders intended.

Is this yet another colorful way you're trying to explain how you're not a total hypocrite and winger stooge?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Again...you beggars struggle to make the distinction between free shit for lowlife, begging degenerates and the GENERAL WELFARE of the nation.

II'm pretty sure I pay my way more than you.

Stop using liberal arguments to promote right wing causes.

Sorry bud...you've already exposed yourself...NOBODY paying and paving their own way begs for others to be robbed for their own personal gain.

Let me repeat myself. Stop using liberal arguments to promote right wing causes.

When you tell people that the 'General Welfare' clause of the Constitution can be used to justify corporate welfare you are doing just that.

gen·er·al
/ˈjen(ə)rəl/

1. affecting or concerning all or most people, places, or things; widespread.
2. the general public.

Yep, you're using a left wing argument for right wing causes. I don't know how many times I need to say this.

Yep, that's your desperate beggar spin...go with it.
Good luck selling productive contributors on your "left wing argument" bullshit...Nobody sane believes they benefit by paying ShaQuita to have more babies for us to feed or by providing healthcare for Mexico's citizens...Again however, we all know we benefit by investing in job creators, our food sources, infrastructure, the military...etc etc.
Good luck with your shameless begging coalition.

 

[Richard-H]

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

Republicans only care about the debt when a Democrat is in the White House

True, so how do you fix that issue?

By growing the economy at a higher rate than the debt is growing. The absolute size of the debt is less important than the cost of servicing it. By concentrating on economic growth, interest rates will stay low and just as a rich person can afford to carry more debt than a poor person can, the larger the GDP the more debt the US can afford to carry. An added benefit is that economic growth benefits all Americans.

Until we have a recession and have to pay for all the debt that we accumulated during boom times. Then we're screwed.

Or do you believe that we'll never ever have another recession?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

First he socialized the losses of the coal industry facing environmental damage.


Then he socialized the losses of farms due to his trade policies.


Now he is socializing the potential losses due to the coronavirus for airlines, travel agencies and cruise ships.


That is not how capitalism works conservatives.

It's only socialism if it helps people in need, not businesses.

First he socialized the losses of the coal industry facing environmental damage.


Then he socialized the losses of farms due to his trade policies.


Now he is socializing the potential losses due to the coronavirus for airlines, travel agencies and cruise ships.


That is not how capitalism works conservatives.

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

No matter how hard you try you'll never get good real productive Americans to embrace INVESTING in ShaQuita, Guadalupe and their litters of filth...Sorry guys, but we like ROi...we take great pride in investing in the military, infrastructure, our food sources, commerce and job creators....You know...the GENERAL WELFARE of our nation just as the founders intended.

Is this yet another colorful way you're trying to explain how you're not a total hypocrite and winger stooge?

and yet he fails with each colorful try.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

Republicans only care about the debt when a Democrat is in the White House

True, so how do you fix that issue?

By growing the economy at a higher rate than the debt is growing. The absolute size of the debt is less important than the cost of servicing it. By concentrating on economic growth, interest rates will stay low and just as a rich person can afford to carry more debt than a poor person can, the larger the GDP the more debt the US can afford to carry. An added benefit is that economic growth benefits all Americans.

Until we have a recession and have to pay for all the debt that we accumulated during boom times. Then we're screwed.

Or do you believe that we'll never ever have another recession?

during the last recession our deficit almost tripled in one year....just imagine if they happened with the next one, we would be adding almost 4 trillion to the debt in one year. That would really boost the cost to service the debt.

 

[BrokeLoser]

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

Republicans only care about the debt when a Democrat is in the White House

True, so how do you fix that issue?

By growing the economy at a higher rate than the debt is growing. The absolute size of the debt is less important than the cost of servicing it. By concentrating on economic growth, interest rates will stay low and just as a rich person can afford to carry more debt than a poor person can, the larger the GDP the more debt the US can afford to carry. An added benefit is that economic growth benefits all Americans.

Until we have a recession and have to pay for all the debt that we accumulated during boom times. Then we're screwed.

Or do you believe that we'll never ever have another recession?

Hold on...we just had a recession...printed more cash and doubled the debt...we didn't pay back a fucking thing. Were you born yesterday or something?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

Republicans only care about the debt when a Democrat is in the White House

True, so how do you fix that issue?

By growing the economy at a higher rate than the debt is growing. The absolute size of the debt is less important than the cost of servicing it. By concentrating on economic growth, interest rates will stay low and just as a rich person can afford to carry more debt than a poor person can, the larger the GDP the more debt the US can afford to carry. An added benefit is that economic growth benefits all Americans.

Until we have a recession and have to pay for all the debt that we accumulated during boom times. Then we're screwed.

Or do you believe that we'll never ever have another recession?

Hold on...we just had a recession...printed more cash and doubled the debt...we didn't pay back a fucking thing. Were you born yesterday or something?

Yes we did, except that the amount added to the debt each year decreased as the economy started to do better. Then comes along the king of debt and almost doubles the amount being added...all during a booming economy.

 

[MACAULAY]

Yea, and George Washington socialized the Army.

Nations are formed to share some risks and responsibilities---like in the United States, build interstate highways.

It does not mean: From each hard working American according to his ability to each porch sitter and illegal alien according his need.

So you think that everyone that collects Social Security and Medicare are porch sitters and illegal aliens?

Perhaps we should just shoot the elder, huh?

_____

Your ignorance is appalling, as is the case with almost all of you Bolshevik cocksuckers.

People pay into Social Security and Medicare their whole working lives. If you ever had a paycheck stub to look at, and a brain to comprehend what it says---you would know that. They are getting their INVESTMENT back. It's like insurance. If they live a long time after 66, they made a good deal; if not, they lost money. Dumb shit.

 

[Richard-H]

Republicans only care about the debt when a Democrat is in the White House

NOBODY cares about national debt these days...we've carried a massive debt load for decades now and none of you can tell anybody how their lives and or quality of life is or has been impacted by it...You, Golfing Gator g5000 and other self proclaimed fiscally responsible fence sitters have reduced the debt to nothing more than a boogeyman talking point used by fence sitters.
I suggest you figure out a way to articulate how impactful the national debt is on the average citizen or stop with the boogeyman bullshit and stay credible.

Servicing just the interest on the debt cost each family in the US more than $3000 per year, which is more than what they got back from Trump's tax cuts.

And that number will continue to get exponentially bigger. Within a decade that number will be more than $6600 per family.

Except each family doesn't directly pay for the debt but directly benefits from the tax cuts. Your conflation is false.

sure they do, they are paying that much more in taxes than they would need to be paying thanks to the debt.

What? If someone has an AGI of $100k, they are paying less under DJT than they did under BHO regardless of the nation's debt burden.

Yes, which is one of the reasons that the debt is ballooning, dumbass!

 

[BrokeLoser]

First he socialized the losses of the coal industry facing environmental damage.


Then he socialized the losses of farms due to his trade policies.


Now he is socializing the potential losses due to the coronavirus for airlines, travel agencies and cruise ships.


That is not how capitalism works conservatives.

It's only socialism if it helps people in need, not businesses.

First he socialized the losses of the coal industry facing environmental damage.


Then he socialized the losses of farms due to his trade policies.


Now he is socializing the potential losses due to the coronavirus for airlines, travel agencies and cruise ships.


That is not how capitalism works conservatives.

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

No matter how hard you try you'll never get good real productive Americans to embrace INVESTING in ShaQuita, Guadalupe and their litters of filth...Sorry guys, but we like ROi...we take great pride in investing in the military, infrastructure, our food sources, commerce and job creators....You know...the GENERAL WELFARE of our nation just as the founders intended.

Is this yet another colorful way you're trying to explain how you're not a total hypocrite and winger stooge?

First he socialized the losses of the coal industry facing environmental damage.


Then he socialized the losses of farms due to his trade policies.


Now he is socializing the potential losses due to the coronavirus for airlines, travel agencies and cruise ships.


That is not how capitalism works conservatives.

It's only socialism if it helps people in need, not businesses.

First he socialized the losses of the coal industry facing environmental damage.


Then he socialized the losses of farms due to his trade policies.


Now he is socializing the potential losses due to the coronavirus for airlines, travel agencies and cruise ships.


That is not how capitalism works conservatives.

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

No matter how hard you try you'll never get good real productive Americans to embrace INVESTING in ShaQuita, Guadalupe and their litters of filth...Sorry guys, but we like ROi...we take great pride in investing in the military, infrastructure, our food sources, commerce and job creators....You know...the GENERAL WELFARE of our nation just as the founders intended.

Is this yet another colorful way you're trying to explain how you're not a total hypocrite and winger stooge?

and yet he fails with each colorful try.

When you say "colorful" do you mean candid and transparent?
Which part of my post indicates my hypocrisy?
Are you taking the 'play stupid' approach as a refutation?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Republicans only care about the debt when a Democrat is in the White House

True, so how do you fix that issue?

By growing the economy at a higher rate than the debt is growing. The absolute size of the debt is less important than the cost of servicing it. By concentrating on economic growth, interest rates will stay low and just as a rich person can afford to carry more debt than a poor person can, the larger the GDP the more debt the US can afford to carry. An added benefit is that economic growth benefits all Americans.

Until we have a recession and have to pay for all the debt that we accumulated during boom times. Then we're screwed.

Or do you believe that we'll never ever have another recession?

Hold on...we just had a recession...printed more cash and doubled the debt...we didn't pay back a fucking thing. Were you born yesterday or something?

Yes we did, except that the amount added to the debt each year decreased as the economy started to do better. Then comes along the king of debt and almost doubles the amount being added...all during a booming economy.

Yep and those stoners and dark people you love and want to expand on who don't contribute have done nothing but benefit from the accrued debt. It's strange that you refuse to acknowledge the dangerous cycle you perpetuate.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Yep and those stoners and dark people you love and want to expand on who don't contribute have done nothing but benefit from the accrued debt. It's strange that you refuse to acknowledge the dangerous cycle you perpetuate.

the few stoners I know are all making 6 digits easily. The dark people I know are all hard working, employed people just trying to provide for their families like the rest of us.