trump the Socialist

[AzogtheDefiler]

First he socialized the losses of the coal industry facing environmental damage.


Then he socialized the losses of farms due to his trade policies.


Now he is socializing the potential losses due to the coronavirus for airlines, travel agencies and cruise ships.


That is not how capitalism works conservatives.

So then he'll have your vote in November? Thank you.

 

[Leweman]

First he socialized the losses of the coal industry facing environmental damage.


Then he socialized the losses of farms due to his trade policies.


Now he is socializing the potential losses due to the coronavirus for airlines, travel agencies and cruise ships.


That is not how capitalism works conservatives.

It's only socialism if it helps people in need, not businesses.

First he socialized the losses of the coal industry facing environmental damage.


Then he socialized the losses of farms due to his trade policies.


Now he is socializing the potential losses due to the coronavirus for airlines, travel agencies and cruise ships.


That is not how capitalism works conservatives.

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

No matter how hard you try you'll never get good real productive Americans to embrace INVESTING in ShaQuita, Guadalupe and their litters of filth...Sorry guys, but we like ROi...we take great pride in investing in the military, infrastructure, our food sources, commerce and job creators....You know...the GENERAL WELFARE of our nation just as the founders intended.

The Military, a socialist institution.
Infrastructure, paid for in a socialistic way.
Our food sources, managed by a socialist government inspectors.
Commerce, managed by socialistic rules.

Job creators, lobby government to pay no taxes for the infrastructure, food sources and commerce that they hope to use for their personal success.

So is socialism good or not? I'm getting confused. Its seems like leftists, even in this very thread, complain all of the time about those institutions you list as "socialist" being shit.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

Republicans only care about the debt when a Democrat is in the White House

NOBODY cares about national debt these days...we've carried a massive debt load for decades now and none of you can tell anybody how their lives and or quality of life is or has been impacted by it...You, Golfing Gator g5000 and other self proclaimed fiscally responsible fence sitters have reduced the debt to nothing more than a boogeyman talking point used by fence sitters.
I suggest you figure out a way to articulate how impactful the national debt is on the average citizen or stop with the boogeyman bullshit and stay credible.

Servicing just the interest on the debt cost each family in the US more than $3000 per year, which is more than what they got back from Trump's tax cuts.

And that number will continue to get exponentially bigger. Within a decade that number will be more than $6600 per family.

Except each family doesn't directly pay for the debt but directly benefits from the tax cuts. Your conflation is false.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

Republicans only care about the debt when a Democrat is in the White House

NOBODY cares about national debt these days...we've carried a massive debt load for decades now and none of you can tell anybody how their lives and or quality of life is or has been impacted by it...You, Golfing Gator g5000 and other self proclaimed fiscally responsible fence sitters have reduced the debt to nothing more than a boogeyman talking point used by fence sitters.
I suggest you figure out a way to articulate how impactful the national debt is on the average citizen or stop with the boogeyman bullshit and stay credible.

Servicing just the interest on the debt cost each family in the US more than $3000 per year, which is more than what they got back from Trump's tax cuts.

And that number will continue to get exponentially bigger. Within a decade that number will be more than $6600 per family.

Except each family doesn't directly pay for the debt but directly benefits from the tax cuts. Your conflation is false.

sure they do, they are paying that much more in taxes than they would need to be paying thanks to the debt.

 

[BrokeLoser]

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

Republicans only care about the debt when a Democrat is in the White House

NOBODY cares about national debt these days...we've carried a massive debt load for decades now and none of you can tell anybody how their lives and or quality of life is or has been impacted by it...You, Golfing Gator g5000 and other self proclaimed fiscally responsible fence sitters have reduced the debt to nothing more than a boogeyman talking point used by fence sitters.
I suggest you figure out a way to articulate how impactful the national debt is on the average citizen or stop with the boogeyman bullshit and stay credible.

Servicing just the interest on the debt cost each family in the US more than $3000 per year, which is more than what they got back from Trump's tax cuts.

And that number will continue to get exponentially bigger. Within a decade that number will be more than $6600 per family.

How do you arrive at those numbers? Link?
Half the nation does not contribute to the treasury...can you give us a more accurate breakdown?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

Republicans only care about the debt when a Democrat is in the White House

NOBODY cares about national debt these days...we've carried a massive debt load for decades now and none of you can tell anybody how their lives and or quality of life is or has been impacted by it...You, Golfing Gator g5000 and other self proclaimed fiscally responsible fence sitters have reduced the debt to nothing more than a boogeyman talking point used by fence sitters.
I suggest you figure out a way to articulate how impactful the national debt is on the average citizen or stop with the boogeyman bullshit and stay credible.

Servicing just the interest on the debt cost each family in the US more than $3000 per year, which is more than what they got back from Trump's tax cuts.

And that number will continue to get exponentially bigger. Within a decade that number will be more than $6600 per family.

Except each family doesn't directly pay for the debt but directly benefits from the tax cuts. Your conflation is false.

sure they do, they are paying that much more in taxes than they would need to be paying thanks to the debt.

What? If someone has an AGI of $100k, they are paying less under DJT than they did under BHO regardless of the nation's debt burden.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Republicans only care about the debt when a Democrat is in the White House

NOBODY cares about national debt these days...we've carried a massive debt load for decades now and none of you can tell anybody how their lives and or quality of life is or has been impacted by it...You, Golfing Gator g5000 and other self proclaimed fiscally responsible fence sitters have reduced the debt to nothing more than a boogeyman talking point used by fence sitters.
I suggest you figure out a way to articulate how impactful the national debt is on the average citizen or stop with the boogeyman bullshit and stay credible.

Servicing just the interest on the debt cost each family in the US more than $3000 per year, which is more than what they got back from Trump's tax cuts.

And that number will continue to get exponentially bigger. Within a decade that number will be more than $6600 per family.

Except each family doesn't directly pay for the debt but directly benefits from the tax cuts. Your conflation is false.

sure they do, they are paying that much more in taxes than they would need to be paying thanks to the debt.

What? If someone has an AGI of $100k, they are paying less under DJT than they did under BHO regardless of the nation's debt burden.

yet they are still paying more than they would with no debt. Come on now, you are not normally this slow

 

[BluesLegend]

First he socialized the losses of the coal industry facing environmental damage.


Then he socialized the losses of farms due to his trade policies.


Now he is socializing the potential losses due to the coronavirus for airlines, travel agencies and cruise ships.


That is not how capitalism works conservatives.

^^^ some liberal GM bailout tard lecturing us on conservatism.

 

[BrokeLoser]

First he socialized the losses of the coal industry facing environmental damage.


Then he socialized the losses of farms due to his trade policies.


Now he is socializing the potential losses due to the coronavirus for airlines, travel agencies and cruise ships.


That is not how capitalism works conservatives.

It's only socialism if it helps people in need, not businesses.

First he socialized the losses of the coal industry facing environmental damage.


Then he socialized the losses of farms due to his trade policies.


Now he is socializing the potential losses due to the coronavirus for airlines, travel agencies and cruise ships.


That is not how capitalism works conservatives.

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

No matter how hard you try you'll never get good real productive Americans to embrace INVESTING in ShaQuita, Guadalupe and their litters of filth...Sorry guys, but we like ROi...we take great pride in investing in the military, infrastructure, our food sources, commerce and job creators....You know...the GENERAL WELFARE of our nation just as the founders intended.

The Military, a socialist institution.
Infrastructure, paid for in a socialistic way.
Our food sources, managed by a socialist government inspectors.
Commerce, managed by socialistic rules.

Job creators, lobby government to pay no taxes for the infrastructure, food sources and commerce that they hope to use for their personal success.

You might need to brush-up on you comprehension skills a bit and research "socialism" once again bud.
Our framers intended for us to use public investments for the sake of the GENERAL WELFARE. You didn't know that?

That's an argument used by liberals to promote universal healthcare, social safety nets and free college.

I ask that you please leave our circle.

Again...you beggars struggle to make the distinction between free shit for lowlife, begging degenerates and the GENERAL WELFARE of the nation.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

Republicans only care about the debt when a Democrat is in the White House

NOBODY cares about national debt these days...we've carried a massive debt load for decades now and none of you can tell anybody how their lives and or quality of life is or has been impacted by it...You, Golfing Gator g5000 and other self proclaimed fiscally responsible fence sitters have reduced the debt to nothing more than a boogeyman talking point used by fence sitters.
I suggest you figure out a way to articulate how impactful the national debt is on the average citizen or stop with the boogeyman bullshit and stay credible.

Servicing just the interest on the debt cost each family in the US more than $3000 per year, which is more than what they got back from Trump's tax cuts.

And that number will continue to get exponentially bigger. Within a decade that number will be more than $6600 per family.

How do you arrive at those numbers? Link?
Half the nation does not contribute to the treasury...can you give us a more accurate breakdown?

If you want to go down that road then the debt is an even bigger drag on people like you and I that do pay taxes. Thank you for helping to prove my point.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

NOBODY cares about national debt these days...we've carried a massive debt load for decades now and none of you can tell anybody how their lives and or quality of life is or has been impacted by it...You, Golfing Gator g5000 and other self proclaimed fiscally responsible fence sitters have reduced the debt to nothing more than a boogeyman talking point used by fence sitters.
I suggest you figure out a way to articulate how impactful the national debt is on the average citizen or stop with the boogeyman bullshit and stay credible.

Servicing just the interest on the debt cost each family in the US more than $3000 per year, which is more than what they got back from Trump's tax cuts.

And that number will continue to get exponentially bigger. Within a decade that number will be more than $6600 per family.

Except each family doesn't directly pay for the debt but directly benefits from the tax cuts. Your conflation is false.

sure they do, they are paying that much more in taxes than they would need to be paying thanks to the debt.

What? If someone has an AGI of $100k, they are paying less under DJT than they did under BHO regardless of the nation's debt burden.

yet they are still paying more than they would with no debt. Come on now, you are not normally this slow

WTF are you talking about? Explain how that person is paying more when the US debt is not their true obligation. Have you received a bill for $3k from the Gov't? LOL

You're making a fool out of yourself yet again. Not surprising.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Servicing just the interest on the debt cost each family in the US more than $3000 per year, which is more than what they got back from Trump's tax cuts.

And that number will continue to get exponentially bigger. Within a decade that number will be more than $6600 per family.

Except each family doesn't directly pay for the debt but directly benefits from the tax cuts. Your conflation is false.

sure they do, they are paying that much more in taxes than they would need to be paying thanks to the debt.

What? If someone has an AGI of $100k, they are paying less under DJT than they did under BHO regardless of the nation's debt burden.

yet they are still paying more than they would with no debt. Come on now, you are not normally this slow

WTF are you talking about? Explain how that person is paying more when the US debt is not their true obligation. Have you received a bill for $3k from the Gov't? LOL

You're making a fool out of yourself yet again. Not surprising.

I wish my bill to the government was only 3 grand.

Our taxes are used to pay the interest on the debt, if we did not have the debt then we world not need to pay as much in taxes.

And each year the amount of our taxes going to the debt is growing by about 10%.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Except each family doesn't directly pay for the debt but directly benefits from the tax cuts. Your conflation is false.

sure they do, they are paying that much more in taxes than they would need to be paying thanks to the debt.

What? If someone has an AGI of $100k, they are paying less under DJT than they did under BHO regardless of the nation's debt burden.

yet they are still paying more than they would with no debt. Come on now, you are not normally this slow

WTF are you talking about? Explain how that person is paying more when the US debt is not their true obligation. Have you received a bill for $3k from the Gov't? LOL

You're making a fool out of yourself yet again. Not surprising.

Our taxes are used to pay the interest on the debt, if we did not have the debt then we world not need to pay as much in taxes.

And each year the amount of our taxes going to the debt is growing by about 10%.

Nope you said specific families. Our taxes also pay for the military and healthcare for the elderly.

Mr. and Mrs. Gator benefit from the tax cuts, they specifically (at least not yet) have not felt the impact of higher national debt. Ultimately they may but to date they have not. I agree it needs to be addressed asap.

 

[HappyJoy]

First he socialized the losses of the coal industry facing environmental damage.


Then he socialized the losses of farms due to his trade policies.


Now he is socializing the potential losses due to the coronavirus for airlines, travel agencies and cruise ships.


That is not how capitalism works conservatives.

It's only socialism if it helps people in need, not businesses.

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

No matter how hard you try you'll never get good real productive Americans to embrace INVESTING in ShaQuita, Guadalupe and their litters of filth...Sorry guys, but we like ROi...we take great pride in investing in the military, infrastructure, our food sources, commerce and job creators....You know...the GENERAL WELFARE of our nation just as the founders intended.

The Military, a socialist institution.
Infrastructure, paid for in a socialistic way.
Our food sources, managed by a socialist government inspectors.
Commerce, managed by socialistic rules.

Job creators, lobby government to pay no taxes for the infrastructure, food sources and commerce that they hope to use for their personal success.

You might need to brush-up on you comprehension skills a bit and research "socialism" once again bud.
Our framers intended for us to use public investments for the sake of the GENERAL WELFARE. You didn't know that?

That's an argument used by liberals to promote universal healthcare, social safety nets and free college.

I ask that you please leave our circle.

Again...you beggars struggle to make the distinction between free shit for lowlife, begging degenerates and the GENERAL WELFARE of the nation.

II'm pretty sure I pay my way more than you.

Stop using liberal arguments to promote right wing causes.

 

[BrokeLoser]

He was also taking credit for an economy that was being significantly helped by (a) exploded government spending and (b) half a TRILLION poured into short term lending markets by the NY Fed.

Two things that these same people would have loudly condemned just four years ago.
.

Republicans only care about the debt when a Democrat is in the White House

NOBODY cares about national debt these days...we've carried a massive debt load for decades now and none of you can tell anybody how their lives and or quality of life is or has been impacted by it...You, Golfing Gator g5000 and other self proclaimed fiscally responsible fence sitters have reduced the debt to nothing more than a boogeyman talking point used by fence sitters.
I suggest you figure out a way to articulate how impactful the national debt is on the average citizen or stop with the boogeyman bullshit and stay credible.

Servicing just the interest on the debt cost each family in the US more than $3000 per year, which is more than what they got back from Trump's tax cuts.

And that number will continue to get exponentially bigger. Within a decade that number will be more than $6600 per family.

How do you arrive at those numbers? Link?
Half the nation does not contribute to the treasury...can you give us a more accurate breakdown?

If you want to go down that road then the debt is an even bigger drag on people like you and I that do pay taxes. Thank you for helping to prove my point.

Awesome...now we're getting somewhere...being truthful, transparent and all...Now tell me how you have or have not benefited by the accrual of the debt?
See, this is a deep issue with lots of arithmetic involved from many different angles. This is a Mac1958 special right here...one loaded with complexities and intricacies...A "critical thinkers" holy grail of sorts.

 

[BrokeLoser]

No matter how hard you try you'll never get good real productive Americans to embrace INVESTING in ShaQuita, Guadalupe and their litters of filth...Sorry guys, but we like ROi...we take great pride in investing in the military, infrastructure, our food sources, commerce and job creators....You know...the GENERAL WELFARE of our nation just as the founders intended.

The Military, a socialist institution.
Infrastructure, paid for in a socialistic way.
Our food sources, managed by a socialist government inspectors.
Commerce, managed by socialistic rules.

Job creators, lobby government to pay no taxes for the infrastructure, food sources and commerce that they hope to use for their personal success.

You might need to brush-up on you comprehension skills a bit and research "socialism" once again bud.
Our framers intended for us to use public investments for the sake of the GENERAL WELFARE. You didn't know that?

That's an argument used by liberals to promote universal healthcare, social safety nets and free college.

I ask that you please leave our circle.

Again...you beggars struggle to make the distinction between free shit for lowlife, begging degenerates and the GENERAL WELFARE of the nation.

II'm pretty sure I pay my way more than you.

Stop using liberal arguments to promote right wing causes.

Sorry bud...you've already exposed yourself...NOBODY paying and paving their own way begs for others to be robbed for their own personal gain.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Nope you said specific families. Our taxes also pay for the military and healthcare for the elderly.

Mr. and Mrs. Gator benefit from the tax cuts, they specifically (at least not yet) have not felt the impact of higher national debt. Ultimately they may but to date they have not. I agree it needs to be addressed asap.

I said the average family, not specific.

We all feel the impact of the higher national debt every time we pay our taxes, the Govt just does a good job of hiding the pain so we do not stop the flow of money

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Republicans only care about the debt when a Democrat is in the White House

NOBODY cares about national debt these days...we've carried a massive debt load for decades now and none of you can tell anybody how their lives and or quality of life is or has been impacted by it...You, Golfing Gator g5000 and other self proclaimed fiscally responsible fence sitters have reduced the debt to nothing more than a boogeyman talking point used by fence sitters.
I suggest you figure out a way to articulate how impactful the national debt is on the average citizen or stop with the boogeyman bullshit and stay credible.

Servicing just the interest on the debt cost each family in the US more than $3000 per year, which is more than what they got back from Trump's tax cuts.

And that number will continue to get exponentially bigger. Within a decade that number will be more than $6600 per family.

How do you arrive at those numbers? Link?
Half the nation does not contribute to the treasury...can you give us a more accurate breakdown?

If you want to go down that road then the debt is an even bigger drag on people like you and I that do pay taxes. Thank you for helping to prove my point.

Awesome...now we're getting somewhere...being truthful, transparent and all...Now tell me how you have or have not benefited by the accrual of the debt?
See, this is a deep issue with lots of arithmetic involved from many different angles. This is a Mac1958 special right here...one loaded with complexities and intricacies...A "critical thinkers" holy grail of sorts.

Well, first since I told you how you suffer from the debt, tell me how your pet issues harms me personally sitting here in the heartland of this great country.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Nope you said specific families. Our taxes also pay for the military and healthcare for the elderly.

Mr. and Mrs. Gator benefit from the tax cuts, they specifically (at least not yet) have not felt the impact of higher national debt. Ultimately they may but to date they have not. I agree it needs to be addressed asap.

I said the average family, not specific.

We all feel the impact of the higher national debt every time we pay our taxes, the Govt just does a good job of hiding the pain so we do not stop the flow of money

No we do not feel it. So every time the Gov't spends more on military we feel it too? Stop your nonsense. You're digging a giant hole for yourself.

 

[HappyJoy]

The Military, a socialist institution.
Infrastructure, paid for in a socialistic way.
Our food sources, managed by a socialist government inspectors.
Commerce, managed by socialistic rules.

Job creators, lobby government to pay no taxes for the infrastructure, food sources and commerce that they hope to use for their personal success.

You might need to brush-up on you comprehension skills a bit and research "socialism" once again bud.
Our framers intended for us to use public investments for the sake of the GENERAL WELFARE. You didn't know that?

That's an argument used by liberals to promote universal healthcare, social safety nets and free college.

I ask that you please leave our circle.

Again...you beggars struggle to make the distinction between free shit for lowlife, begging degenerates and the GENERAL WELFARE of the nation.

II'm pretty sure I pay my way more than you.

Stop using liberal arguments to promote right wing causes.

Sorry bud...you've already exposed yourself...NOBODY paying and paving their own way begs for others to be robbed for their own personal gain.

Let me repeat myself. Stop using liberal arguments to promote right wing causes.

When you tell people that the 'General Welfare' clause of the Constitution can be used to justify corporate welfare you are doing just that.