Trump we will guard our border with our military

[MindWars]

UPDATE

Not long after Trump announced he was bringing troops home from Syria, the president said he’ll keep the military deployed on the US border “until we can have a wall and proper security.”
Update: Trump to Keep Troops on Border Until Wall Built

 

[easyt65]

Trump is using a false flag situation. convoys of invaders headed towards the border, as the foundation for his scam designed to promote his wall. There is no military necessity needed to repel an invading force. Unarmed civilians are coming to established manned checkpoints seeking asylum. Current border guards and immigration officials are completely able to handle the situation. Applicants can be turned away or accepted and housed in already available facilities.
This is nothing more than a Liar Trump con job.

No wall needed, no military needed to repel the invaders.....and yet there are millions of them in our country illegally. Good one.

You guys are such dopes. A wall nor the military will have no effect on the undocumented immigrants already here.

Not NOW. As I pointed out, snowflakes and Dems have been claiming for DECADES that no wall or military was needed...and yet there are millions of illegals here today.

You are as wrong now as you have been for decades.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Actually the military is the best thing, not the next best

Presidents come an go. A wall can be forever. BOTH!

 

[Camp]

Trump is using a false flag situation. convoys of invaders headed towards the border, as the foundation for his scam designed to promote his wall. There is no military necessity needed to repel an invading force. Unarmed civilians are coming to established manned checkpoints seeking asylum. Current border guards and immigration officials are completely able to handle the situation. Applicants can be turned away or accepted and housed in already available facilities.
This is nothing more than a Liar Trump con job.

Literally millions of illegals already here betrays your ignorant comment

You missed the word in my post "current" jackass. Undocumented immigrants have been coming to America for decades and decades. Crossings of illegals have been largely successfully dealt with for over 5 years now.

 

[TNHarley]

Since trump said he was using the military to stop them, can we expect they will all be given full citizenship this time next week?

 

[easyt65]

Undocumented immigrants have been coming to America for decades and decades.

While Democrats promised for decades they would build the wall in exchange for concessions for illegals. Funny how they always got what they wanted and the wall never got built, the American people always got screwed.

Barry took it to a new, Un-Constitutional, openly illegal level. He publicly declared he would not enforce US Immigration Law, publicly violated US Immigration Law, publicly protected violent illegals, protected criminals who aided and abetted in criminal Sanctuary cities. Obama protected Human traffickers and even engaged in human trafficking, dropping off illegals all over the US without notifying state and local agencies they were coming.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Better than wasting time in the mideast (even though we will continue to and probably do it more soon)

Interestingly enough you still insist on calling him a traitor.

Noted.

Absolutely. The man sidles up to dictators and attacks our allies. He wages war, personally at times, against Americans. And he does so with Russian help, which he knows about and has never spoken against.

Putin does not want Trump leading the country because he has our interests at heart.

The Communist Takeover Of
America - 45 Declared Goals

From Greg Swank
12-4-2

You are about to read a list of 45 goals that found their way down the halls of our great Capitol back in 1963. As you read this, 39 years later, you should be shocked by the events that have played themselves out. I first ran across this list 3 years ago but was unable to attain a copy and it has bothered me ever since. Recently, Jeff Rense posted it on his site and I would like to thank him for doing so. rense.com
Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963 .
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.).....................


The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

So you want atomic war...

 

[Camp]

Trump is using a false flag situation. convoys of invaders headed towards the border, as the foundation for his scam designed to promote his wall. There is no military necessity needed to repel an invading force. Unarmed civilians are coming to established manned checkpoints seeking asylum. Current border guards and immigration officials are completely able to handle the situation. Applicants can be turned away or accepted and housed in already available facilities.
This is nothing more than a Liar Trump con job.

No wall needed, no military needed to repel the invaders.....and yet there are millions of them in our country illegally. Good one.

You guys are such dopes. A wall nor the military will have no effect on the undocumented immigrants already here.

Not NOW. As I pointed out, snowflakes and Dems have been claiming for DECADES that no wall or military was needed...and yet there are millions of illegals here today.

You are as wrong now as you have been for decades.

American business wanted those people to come here and the government let them come. Now you want to blame it on Dems. Like Reagan or the Bush's didn't let them in. Hell, Reagan let them in and gave them amnesty.

 

[BluesLegend]

Undocumented immigrants have been coming to America for decades and decades.

While Democrats promised for decades they would build the wall in exchange for concessions for illegals. Funny how they always got what they wanted and the wall never got built, the American people always got screwed.

Barry took it to a new, Un-Constitutional, openly illegal level. He publicly declared he would not enforce US Immigration Law, publicly violated US Immigration Law, publicly protected violent illegals, protected criminals who aided and abetted in criminal Sanctuary cities. Obama protected Human traffickers and even engaged in human trafficking, dropping off illegals all over the US without notifying state and local agencies they were coming.

Many underage illegals were forced into prostitution and drug trafficking by gangs...while sitting in Obama's detention centers waiting to be processed.

 

[easyt65]

American business wanted those people to come here and the government let them come. Now you want to blame it on Dems. Like Reagan or the Bush's didn't let them in. Hell, Reagan let them in and gave them amnesty.

Democrats are / were part of the US Government, right? And it has been the Democrats who have kissed the asses of and lied to Illegals to keep them voting for Democrats...until recently when illegals declared they are Democrats no more because they have seen the truth.

 

[easyt65]

Many underage illegals were forced into prostitution and drug trafficking by gangs...while sitting in Obama's detention centers waiting to be processed.

Many were raped, abused, and sold by their 'guides' parents entrusted them with to bring them to the US.

 

[Camp]

Undocumented immigrants have been coming to America for decades and decades.

While Democrats promised for decades they would build the wall in exchange for concessions for illegals. Funny how they always got what they wanted and the wall never got built, the American people always got screwed.

Barry took it to a new, Un-Constitutional, openly illegal level. He publicly declared he would not enforce US Immigration Law, publicly violated US Immigration Law, publicly protected violent illegals, protected criminals who aided and abetted in criminal Sanctuary cities. Obama protected Human traffickers and even engaged in human trafficking, dropping off illegals all over the US without notifying state and local agencies they were coming.

You are such a liar. Give us some background and a link to this proposed wall from decades ago. Nothing you say can be taken seriously or believed.

 

[MindWars]

Hmmm, this might not be good......... Those who can decode know exactly what it is saying..

Anonymous on Twitter

The last one mentioned is a tell all

Anonymous on Twitter

 

[easyt65]

Mulvaney said that Obama, Schumer and Clinton voted for a border wall in 2006.

They did vote for the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which authorized building a fence along about 700 miles of the border between the United States and Mexico.

LOOK IT UP.

 

[MindWars]

Better than wasting time in the mideast (even though we will continue to and probably do it more soon)

Interestingly enough you still insist on calling him a traitor.

Noted.

Absolutely. The man sidles up to dictators and attacks our allies. He wages war, personally at times, against Americans. And he does so with Russian help, which he knows about and has never spoken against.

Putin does not want Trump leading the country because he has our interests at heart.

The Communist Takeover Of
America - 45 Declared Goals

From Greg Swank
12-4-2

You are about to read a list of 45 goals that found their way down the halls of our great Capitol back in 1963. As you read this, 39 years later, you should be shocked by the events that have played themselves out. I first ran across this list 3 years ago but was unable to attain a copy and it has bothered me ever since. Recently, Jeff Rense posted it on his site and I would like to thank him for doing so. rense.com
Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963 .
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.).....................


The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

So you want atomic war...

I couldn't get out of the post that I accident clicked on you, ever since your really, really ignorant statement a few weeks ago and when you acted like a HUGE BIG BABY when the MODS MERGED MY POST WITH YOURS...........

Hitting you for the reply was a mistake and I meant it for a general comment.

but no thats' what you commie lovers want. I actually chose to ignore you since you took a fit when the mods moved my post over to yours , you acted like a big fkn baby........ and ignorant as fk to me as if I did it myself.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Better than wasting time in the mideast (even though we will continue to and probably do it more soon)

Interestingly enough you still insist on calling him a traitor.

Noted.

Absolutely. The man sidles up to dictators and attacks our allies. He wages war, personally at times, against Americans. And he does so with Russian help, which he knows about and has never spoken against.

Putin does not want Trump leading the country because he has our interests at heart.

The Communist Takeover Of
America - 45 Declared Goals

From Greg Swank
12-4-2

You are about to read a list of 45 goals that found their way down the halls of our great Capitol back in 1963. As you read this, 39 years later, you should be shocked by the events that have played themselves out. I first ran across this list 3 years ago but was unable to attain a copy and it has bothered me ever since. Recently, Jeff Rense posted it on his site and I would like to thank him for doing so. rense.com
Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963 .
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.).....................


The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

So you want atomic war...

I couldn't get out of the post that I accident clicked on you, ever since your really, really ignorant statement a few weeks ago and when you acted like a HUGE BIG BABY when the MODS MERGED MY POST WITH YOURS...........

Hitting you for the reply was a mistake and I meant it for a general comment.

but no thats' what you commie lovers want. I actually chose to ignore you since you took a fit when the mods moved my post over to yours , you acted like a big fkn baby........ and ignorant as fk to me as if I did it myself.

What, you crazy motherfucker?

 

[AsherN]

I've been saying this for years
bring some of the overseas troops home
this is a triple win!
1. no overseas transportation/logistics/ housing/etc cost
..a. save to-and-from transportation costs = double cost
2. use #1 $$$$ in the US, not overseas
3. those troops will spend their $$$ in the US, not overseas
etc etc

I have as well, and been told by people from both sides that it is not legal


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what's not legal??

Depending on what part of the military is used, those people might be talking about Posse Comitatus.

Posse Comitatus Act
The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) signed on June 18, 1878 by President Rutherford B. Hayes. The purpose of the act – in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807 – is to limit the powers of the federal government in using its military personnel to act as domestic law enforcement personnel.
Posse Comitatus Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How is defending our borders from an invading horde of illegals be domestic law enforcement? Only way to stop an invasion is to repel them with force. After a few 1000 bodies left just south of the border, the illegals and liberals would get the message that We the People don't want criminals here anymore.

First of all, "invading horde" is a silly characterization. Secondly, I am pretty sure ICE is a law enforcement agency. Third, if this is an invasion, who is it an invasion by? Fourth, why would the only bodies be south of the border? Do you think no illegals enter the country through the Canadian border? Fifth, I'd say there is no realistic chance that the federal government will authorize using lethal force on someone simply because they enter the country illegally (ignoring whether such an order would be deemed legal/Constitutional). Finally, I did not say that Posse Comitatus was necessarily the argument being made, merely that is might be.

On the use of lethal force, here's the dilemma, If you shoot at them BEFORE they cross the border, you are shooting Mexican citizens on Mexican soil, which can be deemed an act of war. If you wait until they cross the border, they are entitled to the full protection of the Constitution and American Law, therefore it becomes a LE mission and you can't shoot them.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I have as well, and been told by people from both sides that it is not legal


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what's not legal??

Depending on what part of the military is used, those people might be talking about Posse Comitatus.

Posse Comitatus Act
The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) signed on June 18, 1878 by President Rutherford B. Hayes. The purpose of the act – in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807 – is to limit the powers of the federal government in using its military personnel to act as domestic law enforcement personnel.
Posse Comitatus Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How is defending our borders from an invading horde of illegals be domestic law enforcement? Only way to stop an invasion is to repel them with force. After a few 1000 bodies left just south of the border, the illegals and liberals would get the message that We the People don't want criminals here anymore.

First of all, "invading horde" is a silly characterization. Secondly, I am pretty sure ICE is a law enforcement agency. Third, if this is an invasion, who is it an invasion by? Fourth, why would the only bodies be south of the border? Do you think no illegals enter the country through the Canadian border? Fifth, I'd say there is no realistic chance that the federal government will authorize using lethal force on someone simply because they enter the country illegally (ignoring whether such an order would be deemed legal/Constitutional). Finally, I did not say that Posse Comitatus was necessarily the argument being made, merely that is might be.

On the use of lethal force, here's the dilemma, If you shoot at them BEFORE they cross the border, you are shooting Mexican citizens on Mexican soil, which can be deemed an act of war. If you wait until they cross the border, they are entitled to the full protection of the Constitution and American Law, therefore it becomes a LE mission and you can't shoot them.

They aren't Mexican citizens. They are Honduran citizens. Shoot them on the Mexican side and let mex bellyache over it.

 

[BluesLegend]

Many underage illegals were forced into prostitution and drug trafficking by gangs...while sitting in Obama's detention centers waiting to be processed.

Many were raped, abused, and sold by their 'guides' parents entrusted them with to bring them to the US.

Thanks Obama thanks Dem's.

 

[harmonica]

I have as well, and been told by people from both sides that it is not legal


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what's not legal??

Depending on what part of the military is used, those people might be talking about Posse Comitatus.

Posse Comitatus Act
The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) signed on June 18, 1878 by President Rutherford B. Hayes. The purpose of the act – in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807 – is to limit the powers of the federal government in using its military personnel to act as domestic law enforcement personnel.
Posse Comitatus Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How is defending our borders from an invading horde of illegals be domestic law enforcement? Only way to stop an invasion is to repel them with force. After a few 1000 bodies left just south of the border, the illegals and liberals would get the message that We the People don't want criminals here anymore.

First of all, "invading horde" is a silly characterization. Secondly, I am pretty sure ICE is a law enforcement agency. Third, if this is an invasion, who is it an invasion by? Fourth, why would the only bodies be south of the border? Do you think no illegals enter the country through the Canadian border? Fifth, I'd say there is no realistic chance that the federal government will authorize using lethal force on someone simply because they enter the country illegally (ignoring whether such an order would be deemed legal/Constitutional). Finally, I did not say that Posse Comitatus was necessarily the argument being made, merely that is might be.

On the use of lethal force, here's the dilemma, If you shoot at them BEFORE they cross the border, you are shooting Mexican citizens on Mexican soil, which can be deemed an act of war. If you wait until they cross the border, they are entitled to the full protection of the Constitution and American Law, therefore it becomes a LE mission and you can't shoot them.

..you are not familiar with the history of wars/etc
..countries have every right to protest their borders--it doesn't matter what nationality the invaders are
..if Mexico is letting invaders invade from their country--they we have every right to pound them
..Mexico would be in the wrong