Trump will leave office with a historically bad economic record

[Indeependent]

I'm saying that it wouldn't have mattered who was in office.

Which is just so obviously absurd.

Tell me how the people in this country would have been so different if Trump wasn't president.

I bet all those idiots who went to Sturgis would have all stayed home with masks on right?

If we had a strong national policy it would have been illegal.

and who would have enforced it?

We can't even enforce our immigration laws and you expect some podunk cop in S Dakota to arrest tens of thousands of bikers

Now that's hilarious

Arrest the business owners that were hosting.

not gonna happen.

we don't arrest business owners for hiring illegals so what ,makes you think we would arrest business owners for doing business in a state that allowed them to remain open?

Martial law was the only way we could have enforced your dream COVID scenario and martial law will never be used in this country

What we know is trumps response has been a big failure. We have the most deaths and our rate is right at the bottom.

No more so than any other country who did things differently.

and our COVID mortality rate is way less than 1% if you factor in the hundreds of thousands of people that have been infected and never got very sick or had a test

So far 303000 have died and that is .09% of the US population

Really how much better could it be than 9 one hundredths of one percent?

We have the most deaths in the world and one of the highest death rates and you celebrate. Now that is some stupidity. You love failure.

One of the highest death rates?

You are as big of a liar as rightwinger


×
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Global Deaths

.................................................................................................................................................................... DEATH RATE

Western Sahara	2	-	10	10.00%	-	-	-	17	-	1
Mexico	903	-	1,250,044	9.12%	-	3,194,264	25,313	9,906	+249	113,953
Montserrat	186	-	13	7.69%	-	626	116,508	2,420	-	1
Ecuador	812	-	202,110	6.87%	-	690,569	40,421	11,830	-	13,875
Sudan	32	-	21,591	6.28%	-	-	-	510	+8	1,355
Bolivia	794	-	147,150	6.13%	-	377,562	33,256	12,961	+4	9,018
Chad	6	-	1,770	5.76%	-	-	-	113	-	102
Egypt	70	-	121,575	5.69%	-	1,000,000	10,160	1,235	-	6,920
Syria	30	-	9,166	5.65%	-	-	-	524	-	518
China*	3	-	86,741	5.34%	-	160,000,000	114,882	62	-	4,634
Liberia	19	-	1,676	4.95%	-	35,957	8,034	374	-	83
Iran**	641	-	1,115,770	4.70%	-	6,750,359	82,522	13,640	+251	52,447
Fiji	2	-	46	4.35%	-	18,616	21,038	52	-	2
Tanzania	0	-	509	4.13%	-	-	-	9	-	21
Afghanistan	53	-	49,484	3.99%	-	170,855	4,596	1,331	+4	1,975
Peru	1,147	-	984,973	3.72%	-	5,264,455	164,569	30,791	-	36,677
Niger	4	-	2,258	3.54%	-	52,702	2,362	101	-	80
Italy	1,076	-	1,855,737	3.50%	-	24,319,310	402,429	30,708	+491	65,011
Tunisia	337	-	111,361	3.50%	-	512,738	44,335	9,629	-	3,894
United Kingdom	965	-	1,849,403	3.47%	-	47,141,344	709,010	27,815	-	64,170
Guatemala	268	-	129,405	3.43%	-	581,933	35,048	7,794	+22	4,445
Bosnia and Herzegovina	1,020	-	101,461	3.34%	-	466,426	140,324	30,524	+55	3,391
Mali	10	-	5,814	3.34%	-	117,204	5,868	291	-	194
Gambia	52	-	3,782	3.25%	-	27,056	11,524	1,611	-	123
Australia	36	-	28,039	3.24%	-	10,400,623	416,152	1,122	-	908
Bulgaria	810	-	179,449	3.17%	-	1,064,458	151,541	25,547	-	5,688
Malawi	10	-	6,070	3.08%	-	79,223	4,141	317	-	187
Sierra Leone	9	-	2,440	3.07%	-	-	-	309	-	75
Indonesia	71	-	623,309	3.04%	-	6,424,385	24,002	2,329	+137	18,956
Belgium	1,572	-	608,137	2.95%	-	6,336,972	554,801	53,242	+49	17,951
Greece	344	-	125,173	2.95%	-	2,589,438	241,379	11,668	+62	3,687
North Macedonia	1,031	-	73,851	2.91%	-	365,599	175,519	35,455	+26	2,147
Canada	364	-	464,312	2.90%	-	12,559,324	338,902	12,529	+48	13,479
El Salvador	186	-	41,880	2.88%	-	584,631	90,135	6,457	+5	1,205
Algeria	62	-	92,597	2.82%	-	-	-	2,193	+13	2,609
Ireland	438	-	76,185	2.79%	-	2,101,317	432,948	15,697	-	2,124
Chile	851	-	573,830	2.78%	-	5,822,181	310,862	30,638	+45	15,931
Nicaragua	25	-	5,887	2.75%	-	-	-	911	-	162
Colombia	787	-	1,425,774	2.74%	-	7,069,223	142,385	28,717	-	39,053
Spain	1,019	-	1,741,439	2.73%	-	24,918,644	533,319	37,271	-	47,624
Zimbabwe	20	-	11,246	2.73%	-	189,370	12,492	742	-	307
Argentina	916	-	1,498,160	2.72%	-	4,259,194	95,724	33,671	-	40,766
South Africa	403	-	860,964	2.70%	-	5,859,178	101,406	14,901	-	23,276
Somalia	8	-	4,579	2.64%	-	-	-	288	-	121
Brazil	866	-	6,903,833	2.63%	-	25,700,000	122,691	32,959	+41	181,460
Honduras	310	-	114,359	2.60%	-	284,003	29,622	11,928	+1	2,975
Hungary	730	-	283,870	2.51%	-	2,320,419	237,534	29,059	+165	7,130
Vietnam	0	-	1,402	2.50%	-	1,431,631	14,985	15	-	35
Haiti	20	-	9,491	2.45%	-	34,734	3,000	820	-	233
DRC	33	-	14,512	2.45%	-	-	-	1,366	+4	356
France	865	-	2,376,852	2.44%	-	28,942,112	432,054	35,482	-	57,911
Romania	693	-	559,587	2.41%	-	4,436,130	227,798	28,735	+109	13,494
Barbados	24	-	292	2.40%	-	52,861	184,169	1,017	-	7
Sweden	738	-	320,098	2.35%	-	3,718,476	365,159	31,434	-	7,514
Jamaica	93	-	11,792	2.32%	-	126,540	43,116	4,018	-	273
Iraq	328	-	575,972	2.19%	-	3,933,815	102,354	14,986	+24	12,603
Suriname	201	-	5,353	2.19%	-	22,676	39,004	9,208	-	117
Slovenia	1,019	-	96,745	2.18%	-	594,115	287,377	46,796	+44	2,107
Belize	477	-	9,295	2.10%	-	48,864	119,622	22,755	-	195
Myanmar	42	-	109,512	2.09%	-	1,456,866	26,810	2,015	+24	2,292
Paraguay	281	-	93,582	2.09%	-	500,744	71,987	13,453	-	1,953
Albania	354	-	49,191	2.07%	-	219,385	76,537	17,161	+13	1,016
Moldova	733	-	127,253	2.04%	-	507,145	143,024	35,888	+26	2,598
Senegal	22	-	17,146	2.04%	-	246,147	15,526	1,081	+1	350
Togo	8	-	3,251	2.03%	-	160,765	20,378	412	-	66
Poland	605	-	1,140,572	2.01%	-	6,695,762	176,304	30,032	+96	22,960
Pakistan	42	-	440,787	2.00%	-	6,064,220	28,576	2,077	+36	8,832
Zambia	21	-	18,322	2.00%	-	489,926	28,187	1,054	-	367
Brunei	7	-	152	1.97%	-	77,829	181,436	354	-	3
Philippines	82	-	450,733	1.94%	-	6,264,737	58,740	4,226	+24	8,757
South Sudan	5	-	3,206	1.93%	-	63,753	4,989	251	-	62
Mauritius	8	-	523	1.91%	-	289,552	228,717	413	-	10
Eswatini	116	-	6,768	1.88%	-	63,144	57,759	6,191	-	127
United States	937	-	16,757,178	1.83%	-	221,314,293	676,456	51,219	+102	306,561

You realize how many countries there are right?

Yes.

WTF does that have to do with your blatant lie?

It is one of the worst. Why aren't we on the list of lowest rates?

Not even close to being one of the worst, liar.

No, we are on of the worst obviously.

My link confirms you are a lying sack of shit, Troll.

It confirms we have one of the worst.

Nope. You are still lying in the face of facts.

Nope we are still really bad.

Look fella, repeating the same lie over and over doesn't change the fact it is a lie.

Why are there so many countries with lower rates?

Because there's a ton of stuff they can't do.
Try an angiogram outside of the US and they'll have to open you up with a scaple.

That's why they have a lower rate of covid deaths? Ok....

they have a lower rate because the people in those countries are more compliant and not resistant to authority.

Do you really think a 6 week total lockdown like Italy where people weren't even allowed to walk on the streets would be possible in this country?

They also can't sue.
A 50K surgery in the US costs about 6K in Columbia or Cuba, but if something goes wrong, you're up the creek.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Putting an end to the lie that there was a Trump economic miracle. Trump entered office with dropping unemployment and a steadily rising market. He leaves the country in shambles.

US economy: Trump will leave office with a historically bad economic record

Alone among the 13 presidents since World War Two, Trump will exit the White House with fewer Americans employed than when he started. He will have overseen punier growth in economic output than any of the previous 12 presidents.

His throwback "America First" agenda has failed to restore the old economic engine that powered an earlier era's prosperity. On Trump's watch, industrial production has fallen. The Federal Reserve says the manufacturing sector fell into recession in 2019 even before the coronavirus pandemic hit.

how many of those presidents had a virus problem like he has?...before it hit we were doing pretty good.....

Before it hit he couldn't hit 3% gdp growth while running a trillion dollar deficit. Weak..

if it wasnt for the virus your old man biden would not have been elected....

Trump was failing without the virus. Last year GDP growth declined with a trillion dollar deficit.

doesnt take away what i said.....if it wasnt for that virus trump would have been pretty hard to beat....

The virus is the rights excuse for their economic failures. This year would have been worse economically without a pandemic, there would just be no excuse.

thats your opinion....many others opinions dont agree with you...

Well we know what happened last year with all of trumps policy in place. GDP growth declined while running a trillion dollar deficit. That's pretty impressive failure.

and yet lots of people were working and UE was way down...when people who havent had a job for a while, are now working, they might be inclined to think the current people in charge are doing a good enough job to be re-elected.....

Oh but trump said it was about the labor force participation rate right? That barely changed so the real unemployment rate was quite high. The economy was ok, but getting worse with trump policy, not better. And deficits were sure worse too. Expensive failure.

the same was said about the REAL unemployment rate during obamas time too.....a lot higher then what was being claimed...most people can care less as long as they are one of the ones working...

Yes trump and the right talked about REAL unemployment until it was clear trump didn't change the labor force participation rate so trump dropped it. Trump said less than 3% gdp growth was horrible too, till he couldn't do it. Then it became the greatest economy ever.

every administration has a bunch of bullshit to feed us....

 

[Brain357]

Putting an end to the lie that there was a Trump economic miracle. Trump entered office with dropping unemployment and a steadily rising market. He leaves the country in shambles.

US economy: Trump will leave office with a historically bad economic record

Alone among the 13 presidents since World War Two, Trump will exit the White House with fewer Americans employed than when he started. He will have overseen punier growth in economic output than any of the previous 12 presidents.

His throwback "America First" agenda has failed to restore the old economic engine that powered an earlier era's prosperity. On Trump's watch, industrial production has fallen. The Federal Reserve says the manufacturing sector fell into recession in 2019 even before the coronavirus pandemic hit.

how many of those presidents had a virus problem like he has?...before it hit we were doing pretty good.....

Before it hit he couldn't hit 3% gdp growth while running a trillion dollar deficit. Weak..

And what excuse do you have ready to go when Biden won't be able to crack 3%? Because it's guaranteed you won't be saying he's weak.

I'll say it's weak, I'm not a democrat.

you sure post like you are one....

Why? Because I'm fiscally responsible? Yeah the repubs sure through that one out.

nope.....just about every thread i see you in you always seem to be on the side of the dems/liberals no matter what the topic is....i have never seen you bad mouth the left,and i have been in a quite a few threads with you...maybe you feel if you do that one of them will call you a "trumper".....is that why?...

And what should I support repubs on right now? I agreed with them when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order, they threw that out with trump. I agreed when they pretended to care about deficits, they through that out too. Tariffs never work and are failed policy. So what failed policy you want me to support?

if you always seem to be agreeing with the left in these threads then does that not make you look like you are one of them?..

I don't like either very much. You don't have any failed policy you think I should be supporting then?

why would i want you to support a failed policy?...but then both sides have so many of them its getting hard to find one that actually works...most just help a percentage of people and everybody else,tough shit.....

Well the right does the same thing over and over. They cut taxes, increase military spending, and increase debt. I don't support that so I'm not a republican. Dems aren't much better, but 4 years ago was a whole lot better than now so trumps failures are extreme.

lots of people feel they are better off now than 4 years ago (before this virus)....and democrats do a lot of shit things too,i lived 50 years in California and watched that states quality of living go from an almost utopia for just about everyone living there to what it is now for many residents of that state.....not that great.....

Sure they do, but repubs repeat the same failure over and over. They cut taxes, increase military spending, and increase debt. They keep telling the people that this time the square peg will fit into the round hole. It never will. Dems at least have some ideas. Clearly we need to do something about the cost of healthcare, repubs have shown they have nothing. Do you think the square peg will ever fit in the round hole?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Putting an end to the lie that there was a Trump economic miracle. Trump entered office with dropping unemployment and a steadily rising market. He leaves the country in shambles.

US economy: Trump will leave office with a historically bad economic record

Alone among the 13 presidents since World War Two, Trump will exit the White House with fewer Americans employed than when he started. He will have overseen punier growth in economic output than any of the previous 12 presidents.

His throwback "America First" agenda has failed to restore the old economic engine that powered an earlier era's prosperity. On Trump's watch, industrial production has fallen. The Federal Reserve says the manufacturing sector fell into recession in 2019 even before the coronavirus pandemic hit.

how many of those presidents had a virus problem like he has?...before it hit we were doing pretty good.....

Before it hit he couldn't hit 3% gdp growth while running a trillion dollar deficit. Weak..

And what excuse do you have ready to go when Biden won't be able to crack 3%? Because it's guaranteed you won't be saying he's weak.

I'll say it's weak, I'm not a democrat.

you sure post like you are one....

Why? Because I'm fiscally responsible? Yeah the repubs sure through that one out.

nope.....just about every thread i see you in you always seem to be on the side of the dems/liberals no matter what the topic is....i have never seen you bad mouth the left,and i have been in a quite a few threads with you...maybe you feel if you do that one of them will call you a "trumper".....is that why?...

And what should I support repubs on right now? I agreed with them when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order, they threw that out with trump. I agreed when they pretended to care about deficits, they through that out too. Tariffs never work and are failed policy. So what failed policy you want me to support?

if you always seem to be agreeing with the left in these threads then does that not make you look like you are one of them?..

I don't like either very much. You don't have any failed policy you think I should be supporting then?

why would i want you to support a failed policy?...but then both sides have so many of them its getting hard to find one that actually works...most just help a percentage of people and everybody else,tough shit.....

Well the right does the same thing over and over. They cut taxes, increase military spending, and increase debt. I don't support that so I'm not a republican. Dems aren't much better, but 4 years ago was a whole lot better than now so trumps failures are extreme.

lots of people feel they are better off now than 4 years ago (before this virus)....and democrats do a lot of shit things too,i lived 50 years in California and watched that states quality of living go from an almost utopia for just about everyone living there to what it is now for many residents of that state.....not that great.....

Sure they do, but repubs repeat the same failure over and over. They cut taxes, increase military spending, and increase debt. They keep telling the people that this time the square peg will fit into the round hole. It never will. Dems at least have some ideas. Clearly we need to do something about the cost of healthcare, repubs have shown they have nothing. Do you think the square peg will ever fit in the round hole?

see here you are again just bad mouthing the right.....when i mentioned the bullshit in california you laughed at me instead of commenting on it.....so explain the laugh.....

 

[Brain357]

Putting an end to the lie that there was a Trump economic miracle. Trump entered office with dropping unemployment and a steadily rising market. He leaves the country in shambles.

US economy: Trump will leave office with a historically bad economic record

Alone among the 13 presidents since World War Two, Trump will exit the White House with fewer Americans employed than when he started. He will have overseen punier growth in economic output than any of the previous 12 presidents.

His throwback "America First" agenda has failed to restore the old economic engine that powered an earlier era's prosperity. On Trump's watch, industrial production has fallen. The Federal Reserve says the manufacturing sector fell into recession in 2019 even before the coronavirus pandemic hit.

how many of those presidents had a virus problem like he has?...before it hit we were doing pretty good.....

Before it hit he couldn't hit 3% gdp growth while running a trillion dollar deficit. Weak..

And what excuse do you have ready to go when Biden won't be able to crack 3%? Because it's guaranteed you won't be saying he's weak.

I'll say it's weak, I'm not a democrat.

you sure post like you are one....

Why? Because I'm fiscally responsible? Yeah the repubs sure through that one out.

nope.....just about every thread i see you in you always seem to be on the side of the dems/liberals no matter what the topic is....i have never seen you bad mouth the left,and i have been in a quite a few threads with you...maybe you feel if you do that one of them will call you a "trumper".....is that why?...

And what should I support repubs on right now? I agreed with them when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order, they threw that out with trump. I agreed when they pretended to care about deficits, they through that out too. Tariffs never work and are failed policy. So what failed policy you want me to support?

if you always seem to be agreeing with the left in these threads then does that not make you look like you are one of them?..

I don't like either very much. You don't have any failed policy you think I should be supporting then?

why would i want you to support a failed policy?...but then both sides have so many of them its getting hard to find one that actually works...most just help a percentage of people and everybody else,tough shit.....

Well the right does the same thing over and over. They cut taxes, increase military spending, and increase debt. I don't support that so I'm not a republican. Dems aren't much better, but 4 years ago was a whole lot better than now so trumps failures are extreme.

lots of people feel they are better off now than 4 years ago (before this virus)....and democrats do a lot of shit things too,i lived 50 years in California and watched that states quality of living go from an almost utopia for just about everyone living there to what it is now for many residents of that state.....not that great.....

Sure they do, but repubs repeat the same failure over and over. They cut taxes, increase military spending, and increase debt. They keep telling the people that this time the square peg will fit into the round hole. It never will. Dems at least have some ideas. Clearly we need to do something about the cost of healthcare, repubs have shown they have nothing. Do you think the square peg will ever fit in the round hole?

see here you are again just bad mouthing the right.....when i mentioned the bullshit in california you laughed at me instead of commenting on it.....so explain the laugh.....

I agree they do dumb things, but that is partly because they have been so successful. Largest economy in the country. If they weren't so successful they couldn't do much of the dumb things they do. Hopefully their population drops will teach them to not be so dumb. The only successful right wing states are loaded with some natural resource.

The repubs do the same thing over and over. Do you think the square peg will fit in the round hole?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Putting an end to the lie that there was a Trump economic miracle. Trump entered office with dropping unemployment and a steadily rising market. He leaves the country in shambles.

US economy: Trump will leave office with a historically bad economic record

Alone among the 13 presidents since World War Two, Trump will exit the White House with fewer Americans employed than when he started. He will have overseen punier growth in economic output than any of the previous 12 presidents.

His throwback "America First" agenda has failed to restore the old economic engine that powered an earlier era's prosperity. On Trump's watch, industrial production has fallen. The Federal Reserve says the manufacturing sector fell into recession in 2019 even before the coronavirus pandemic hit.

how many of those presidents had a virus problem like he has?...before it hit we were doing pretty good.....

Before it hit he couldn't hit 3% gdp growth while running a trillion dollar deficit. Weak..

And what excuse do you have ready to go when Biden won't be able to crack 3%? Because it's guaranteed you won't be saying he's weak.

I'll say it's weak, I'm not a democrat.

you sure post like you are one....

Why? Because I'm fiscally responsible? Yeah the repubs sure through that one out.

nope.....just about every thread i see you in you always seem to be on the side of the dems/liberals no matter what the topic is....i have never seen you bad mouth the left,and i have been in a quite a few threads with you...maybe you feel if you do that one of them will call you a "trumper".....is that why?...

And what should I support repubs on right now? I agreed with them when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order, they threw that out with trump. I agreed when they pretended to care about deficits, they through that out too. Tariffs never work and are failed policy. So what failed policy you want me to support?

if you always seem to be agreeing with the left in these threads then does that not make you look like you are one of them?..

I don't like either very much. You don't have any failed policy you think I should be supporting then?

why would i want you to support a failed policy?...but then both sides have so many of them its getting hard to find one that actually works...most just help a percentage of people and everybody else,tough shit.....

Well the right does the same thing over and over. They cut taxes, increase military spending, and increase debt. I don't support that so I'm not a republican. Dems aren't much better, but 4 years ago was a whole lot better than now so trumps failures are extreme.

lots of people feel they are better off now than 4 years ago (before this virus)....and democrats do a lot of shit things too,i lived 50 years in California and watched that states quality of living go from an almost utopia for just about everyone living there to what it is now for many residents of that state.....not that great.....

Sure they do, but repubs repeat the same failure over and over. They cut taxes, increase military spending, and increase debt. They keep telling the people that this time the square peg will fit into the round hole. It never will. Dems at least have some ideas. Clearly we need to do something about the cost of healthcare, repubs have shown they have nothing. Do you think the square peg will ever fit in the round hole?

see here you are again just bad mouthing the right.....when i mentioned the bullshit in california you laughed at me instead of commenting on it.....so explain the laugh.....

I agree they do dumb things, but that is partly because they have been so successful. Largest economy in the country. If they weren't so successful they couldn't do much of the dumb things they do. Hopefully their population drops will teach them to not be so dumb. The only successful right wing states are loaded with some natural resource.

The repubs do the same thing over and over. Do you think the square peg will fit in the round hole?

so if you are succesful you fuck up more than those that cant get shit going?.....what dumb things has that success made them do?....

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I'm saying that it wouldn't have mattered who was in office.

Which is just so obviously absurd.

Tell me how the people in this country would have been so different if Trump wasn't president.

I bet all those idiots who went to Sturgis would have all stayed home with masks on right?

If we had a strong national policy it would have been illegal.

and who would have enforced it?

We can't even enforce our immigration laws and you expect some podunk cop in S Dakota to arrest tens of thousands of bikers

Now that's hilarious

Arrest the business owners that were hosting.

not gonna happen.

we don't arrest business owners for hiring illegals so what ,makes you think we would arrest business owners for doing business in a state that allowed them to remain open?

Martial law was the only way we could have enforced your dream COVID scenario and martial law will never be used in this country

What we know is trumps response has been a big failure. We have the most deaths and our rate is right at the bottom.

No more so than any other country who did things differently.

and our COVID mortality rate is way less than 1% if you factor in the hundreds of thousands of people that have been infected and never got very sick or had a test

So far 303000 have died and that is .09% of the US population

Really how much better could it be than 9 one hundredths of one percent?

We have the most deaths in the world and one of the highest death rates and you celebrate. Now that is some stupidity. You love failure.

One of the highest death rates?

You are as big of a liar as rightwinger


×
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Global Deaths

.................................................................................................................................................................... DEATH RATE

Western Sahara	2	-	10	10.00%	-	-	-	17	-	1
Mexico	903	-	1,250,044	9.12%	-	3,194,264	25,313	9,906	+249	113,953
Montserrat	186	-	13	7.69%	-	626	116,508	2,420	-	1
Ecuador	812	-	202,110	6.87%	-	690,569	40,421	11,830	-	13,875
Sudan	32	-	21,591	6.28%	-	-	-	510	+8	1,355
Bolivia	794	-	147,150	6.13%	-	377,562	33,256	12,961	+4	9,018
Chad	6	-	1,770	5.76%	-	-	-	113	-	102
Egypt	70	-	121,575	5.69%	-	1,000,000	10,160	1,235	-	6,920
Syria	30	-	9,166	5.65%	-	-	-	524	-	518
China*	3	-	86,741	5.34%	-	160,000,000	114,882	62	-	4,634
Liberia	19	-	1,676	4.95%	-	35,957	8,034	374	-	83
Iran**	641	-	1,115,770	4.70%	-	6,750,359	82,522	13,640	+251	52,447
Fiji	2	-	46	4.35%	-	18,616	21,038	52	-	2
Tanzania	0	-	509	4.13%	-	-	-	9	-	21
Afghanistan	53	-	49,484	3.99%	-	170,855	4,596	1,331	+4	1,975
Peru	1,147	-	984,973	3.72%	-	5,264,455	164,569	30,791	-	36,677
Niger	4	-	2,258	3.54%	-	52,702	2,362	101	-	80
Italy	1,076	-	1,855,737	3.50%	-	24,319,310	402,429	30,708	+491	65,011
Tunisia	337	-	111,361	3.50%	-	512,738	44,335	9,629	-	3,894
United Kingdom	965	-	1,849,403	3.47%	-	47,141,344	709,010	27,815	-	64,170
Guatemala	268	-	129,405	3.43%	-	581,933	35,048	7,794	+22	4,445
Bosnia and Herzegovina	1,020	-	101,461	3.34%	-	466,426	140,324	30,524	+55	3,391
Mali	10	-	5,814	3.34%	-	117,204	5,868	291	-	194
Gambia	52	-	3,782	3.25%	-	27,056	11,524	1,611	-	123
Australia	36	-	28,039	3.24%	-	10,400,623	416,152	1,122	-	908
Bulgaria	810	-	179,449	3.17%	-	1,064,458	151,541	25,547	-	5,688
Malawi	10	-	6,070	3.08%	-	79,223	4,141	317	-	187
Sierra Leone	9	-	2,440	3.07%	-	-	-	309	-	75
Indonesia	71	-	623,309	3.04%	-	6,424,385	24,002	2,329	+137	18,956
Belgium	1,572	-	608,137	2.95%	-	6,336,972	554,801	53,242	+49	17,951
Greece	344	-	125,173	2.95%	-	2,589,438	241,379	11,668	+62	3,687
North Macedonia	1,031	-	73,851	2.91%	-	365,599	175,519	35,455	+26	2,147
Canada	364	-	464,312	2.90%	-	12,559,324	338,902	12,529	+48	13,479
El Salvador	186	-	41,880	2.88%	-	584,631	90,135	6,457	+5	1,205
Algeria	62	-	92,597	2.82%	-	-	-	2,193	+13	2,609
Ireland	438	-	76,185	2.79%	-	2,101,317	432,948	15,697	-	2,124
Chile	851	-	573,830	2.78%	-	5,822,181	310,862	30,638	+45	15,931
Nicaragua	25	-	5,887	2.75%	-	-	-	911	-	162
Colombia	787	-	1,425,774	2.74%	-	7,069,223	142,385	28,717	-	39,053
Spain	1,019	-	1,741,439	2.73%	-	24,918,644	533,319	37,271	-	47,624
Zimbabwe	20	-	11,246	2.73%	-	189,370	12,492	742	-	307
Argentina	916	-	1,498,160	2.72%	-	4,259,194	95,724	33,671	-	40,766
South Africa	403	-	860,964	2.70%	-	5,859,178	101,406	14,901	-	23,276
Somalia	8	-	4,579	2.64%	-	-	-	288	-	121
Brazil	866	-	6,903,833	2.63%	-	25,700,000	122,691	32,959	+41	181,460
Honduras	310	-	114,359	2.60%	-	284,003	29,622	11,928	+1	2,975
Hungary	730	-	283,870	2.51%	-	2,320,419	237,534	29,059	+165	7,130
Vietnam	0	-	1,402	2.50%	-	1,431,631	14,985	15	-	35
Haiti	20	-	9,491	2.45%	-	34,734	3,000	820	-	233
DRC	33	-	14,512	2.45%	-	-	-	1,366	+4	356
France	865	-	2,376,852	2.44%	-	28,942,112	432,054	35,482	-	57,911
Romania	693	-	559,587	2.41%	-	4,436,130	227,798	28,735	+109	13,494
Barbados	24	-	292	2.40%	-	52,861	184,169	1,017	-	7
Sweden	738	-	320,098	2.35%	-	3,718,476	365,159	31,434	-	7,514
Jamaica	93	-	11,792	2.32%	-	126,540	43,116	4,018	-	273
Iraq	328	-	575,972	2.19%	-	3,933,815	102,354	14,986	+24	12,603
Suriname	201	-	5,353	2.19%	-	22,676	39,004	9,208	-	117
Slovenia	1,019	-	96,745	2.18%	-	594,115	287,377	46,796	+44	2,107
Belize	477	-	9,295	2.10%	-	48,864	119,622	22,755	-	195
Myanmar	42	-	109,512	2.09%	-	1,456,866	26,810	2,015	+24	2,292
Paraguay	281	-	93,582	2.09%	-	500,744	71,987	13,453	-	1,953
Albania	354	-	49,191	2.07%	-	219,385	76,537	17,161	+13	1,016
Moldova	733	-	127,253	2.04%	-	507,145	143,024	35,888	+26	2,598
Senegal	22	-	17,146	2.04%	-	246,147	15,526	1,081	+1	350
Togo	8	-	3,251	2.03%	-	160,765	20,378	412	-	66
Poland	605	-	1,140,572	2.01%	-	6,695,762	176,304	30,032	+96	22,960
Pakistan	42	-	440,787	2.00%	-	6,064,220	28,576	2,077	+36	8,832
Zambia	21	-	18,322	2.00%	-	489,926	28,187	1,054	-	367
Brunei	7	-	152	1.97%	-	77,829	181,436	354	-	3
Philippines	82	-	450,733	1.94%	-	6,264,737	58,740	4,226	+24	8,757
South Sudan	5	-	3,206	1.93%	-	63,753	4,989	251	-	62
Mauritius	8	-	523	1.91%	-	289,552	228,717	413	-	10
Eswatini	116	-	6,768	1.88%	-	63,144	57,759	6,191	-	127
United States	937	-	16,757,178	1.83%	-	221,314,293	676,456	51,219	+102	306,561

You realize how many countries there are right?

Yes.

WTF does that have to do with your blatant lie?

It is one of the worst. Why aren't we on the list of lowest rates?

Not even close to being one of the worst, liar.

No, we are on of the worst obviously.

My link confirms you are a lying sack of shit, Troll.

It confirms we have one of the worst.

Nope. You are still lying in the face of facts.

Nope we are still really bad.

Look fella, repeating the same lie over and over doesn't change the fact it is a lie.

Why are there so many countries with lower rates?

Because there's a ton of stuff they can't do.
Try an angiogram outside of the US and they'll have to open you up with a scaple.

That's why they have a lower rate of covid deaths? Ok....

they have a lower rate because the people in those countries are more compliant and not resistant to authority.

Do you really think a 6 week total lockdown like Italy where people weren't even allowed to walk on the streets would be possible in this country?

Do you really think the Trump.cult would be acting like such morons about wearing masks and distancing if their Dear Leader had not downplayed the pandemic and urged them not to follow these measures? Of course not.

 

[Indeependent]

I'm saying that it wouldn't have mattered who was in office.

Which is just so obviously absurd.

Tell me how the people in this country would have been so different if Trump wasn't president.

I bet all those idiots who went to Sturgis would have all stayed home with masks on right?

If we had a strong national policy it would have been illegal.

and who would have enforced it?

We can't even enforce our immigration laws and you expect some podunk cop in S Dakota to arrest tens of thousands of bikers

Now that's hilarious

Arrest the business owners that were hosting.

not gonna happen.

we don't arrest business owners for hiring illegals so what ,makes you think we would arrest business owners for doing business in a state that allowed them to remain open?

Martial law was the only way we could have enforced your dream COVID scenario and martial law will never be used in this country

What we know is trumps response has been a big failure. We have the most deaths and our rate is right at the bottom.

No more so than any other country who did things differently.

and our COVID mortality rate is way less than 1% if you factor in the hundreds of thousands of people that have been infected and never got very sick or had a test

So far 303000 have died and that is .09% of the US population

Really how much better could it be than 9 one hundredths of one percent?

We have the most deaths in the world and one of the highest death rates and you celebrate. Now that is some stupidity. You love failure.

One of the highest death rates?

You are as big of a liar as rightwinger


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Coronavirus (COVID-19) Global Deaths

.................................................................................................................................................................... DEATH RATE

Western Sahara	2	-	10	10.00%	-	-	-	17	-	1
Mexico	903	-	1,250,044	9.12%	-	3,194,264	25,313	9,906	+249	113,953
Montserrat	186	-	13	7.69%	-	626	116,508	2,420	-	1
Ecuador	812	-	202,110	6.87%	-	690,569	40,421	11,830	-	13,875
Sudan	32	-	21,591	6.28%	-	-	-	510	+8	1,355
Bolivia	794	-	147,150	6.13%	-	377,562	33,256	12,961	+4	9,018
Chad	6	-	1,770	5.76%	-	-	-	113	-	102
Egypt	70	-	121,575	5.69%	-	1,000,000	10,160	1,235	-	6,920
Syria	30	-	9,166	5.65%	-	-	-	524	-	518
China*	3	-	86,741	5.34%	-	160,000,000	114,882	62	-	4,634
Liberia	19	-	1,676	4.95%	-	35,957	8,034	374	-	83
Iran**	641	-	1,115,770	4.70%	-	6,750,359	82,522	13,640	+251	52,447
Fiji	2	-	46	4.35%	-	18,616	21,038	52	-	2
Tanzania	0	-	509	4.13%	-	-	-	9	-	21
Afghanistan	53	-	49,484	3.99%	-	170,855	4,596	1,331	+4	1,975
Peru	1,147	-	984,973	3.72%	-	5,264,455	164,569	30,791	-	36,677
Niger	4	-	2,258	3.54%	-	52,702	2,362	101	-	80
Italy	1,076	-	1,855,737	3.50%	-	24,319,310	402,429	30,708	+491	65,011
Tunisia	337	-	111,361	3.50%	-	512,738	44,335	9,629	-	3,894
United Kingdom	965	-	1,849,403	3.47%	-	47,141,344	709,010	27,815	-	64,170
Guatemala	268	-	129,405	3.43%	-	581,933	35,048	7,794	+22	4,445
Bosnia and Herzegovina	1,020	-	101,461	3.34%	-	466,426	140,324	30,524	+55	3,391
Mali	10	-	5,814	3.34%	-	117,204	5,868	291	-	194
Gambia	52	-	3,782	3.25%	-	27,056	11,524	1,611	-	123
Australia	36	-	28,039	3.24%	-	10,400,623	416,152	1,122	-	908
Bulgaria	810	-	179,449	3.17%	-	1,064,458	151,541	25,547	-	5,688
Malawi	10	-	6,070	3.08%	-	79,223	4,141	317	-	187
Sierra Leone	9	-	2,440	3.07%	-	-	-	309	-	75
Indonesia	71	-	623,309	3.04%	-	6,424,385	24,002	2,329	+137	18,956
Belgium	1,572	-	608,137	2.95%	-	6,336,972	554,801	53,242	+49	17,951
Greece	344	-	125,173	2.95%	-	2,589,438	241,379	11,668	+62	3,687
North Macedonia	1,031	-	73,851	2.91%	-	365,599	175,519	35,455	+26	2,147
Canada	364	-	464,312	2.90%	-	12,559,324	338,902	12,529	+48	13,479
El Salvador	186	-	41,880	2.88%	-	584,631	90,135	6,457	+5	1,205
Algeria	62	-	92,597	2.82%	-	-	-	2,193	+13	2,609
Ireland	438	-	76,185	2.79%	-	2,101,317	432,948	15,697	-	2,124
Chile	851	-	573,830	2.78%	-	5,822,181	310,862	30,638	+45	15,931
Nicaragua	25	-	5,887	2.75%	-	-	-	911	-	162
Colombia	787	-	1,425,774	2.74%	-	7,069,223	142,385	28,717	-	39,053
Spain	1,019	-	1,741,439	2.73%	-	24,918,644	533,319	37,271	-	47,624
Zimbabwe	20	-	11,246	2.73%	-	189,370	12,492	742	-	307
Argentina	916	-	1,498,160	2.72%	-	4,259,194	95,724	33,671	-	40,766
South Africa	403	-	860,964	2.70%	-	5,859,178	101,406	14,901	-	23,276
Somalia	8	-	4,579	2.64%	-	-	-	288	-	121
Brazil	866	-	6,903,833	2.63%	-	25,700,000	122,691	32,959	+41	181,460
Honduras	310	-	114,359	2.60%	-	284,003	29,622	11,928	+1	2,975
Hungary	730	-	283,870	2.51%	-	2,320,419	237,534	29,059	+165	7,130
Vietnam	0	-	1,402	2.50%	-	1,431,631	14,985	15	-	35
Haiti	20	-	9,491	2.45%	-	34,734	3,000	820	-	233
DRC	33	-	14,512	2.45%	-	-	-	1,366	+4	356
France	865	-	2,376,852	2.44%	-	28,942,112	432,054	35,482	-	57,911
Romania	693	-	559,587	2.41%	-	4,436,130	227,798	28,735	+109	13,494
Barbados	24	-	292	2.40%	-	52,861	184,169	1,017	-	7
Sweden	738	-	320,098	2.35%	-	3,718,476	365,159	31,434	-	7,514
Jamaica	93	-	11,792	2.32%	-	126,540	43,116	4,018	-	273
Iraq	328	-	575,972	2.19%	-	3,933,815	102,354	14,986	+24	12,603
Suriname	201	-	5,353	2.19%	-	22,676	39,004	9,208	-	117
Slovenia	1,019	-	96,745	2.18%	-	594,115	287,377	46,796	+44	2,107
Belize	477	-	9,295	2.10%	-	48,864	119,622	22,755	-	195
Myanmar	42	-	109,512	2.09%	-	1,456,866	26,810	2,015	+24	2,292
Paraguay	281	-	93,582	2.09%	-	500,744	71,987	13,453	-	1,953
Albania	354	-	49,191	2.07%	-	219,385	76,537	17,161	+13	1,016
Moldova	733	-	127,253	2.04%	-	507,145	143,024	35,888	+26	2,598
Senegal	22	-	17,146	2.04%	-	246,147	15,526	1,081	+1	350
Togo	8	-	3,251	2.03%	-	160,765	20,378	412	-	66
Poland	605	-	1,140,572	2.01%	-	6,695,762	176,304	30,032	+96	22,960
Pakistan	42	-	440,787	2.00%	-	6,064,220	28,576	2,077	+36	8,832
Zambia	21	-	18,322	2.00%	-	489,926	28,187	1,054	-	367
Brunei	7	-	152	1.97%	-	77,829	181,436	354	-	3
Philippines	82	-	450,733	1.94%	-	6,264,737	58,740	4,226	+24	8,757
South Sudan	5	-	3,206	1.93%	-	63,753	4,989	251	-	62
Mauritius	8	-	523	1.91%	-	289,552	228,717	413	-	10
Eswatini	116	-	6,768	1.88%	-	63,144	57,759	6,191	-	127
United States	937	-	16,757,178	1.83%	-	221,314,293	676,456	51,219	+102	306,561

You realize how many countries there are right?

Yes.

WTF does that have to do with your blatant lie?

It is one of the worst. Why aren't we on the list of lowest rates?

Not even close to being one of the worst, liar.

No, we are on of the worst obviously.

My link confirms you are a lying sack of shit, Troll.

It confirms we have one of the worst.

Nope. You are still lying in the face of facts.

Nope we are still really bad.

Look fella, repeating the same lie over and over doesn't change the fact it is a lie.

Why are there so many countries with lower rates?

Because there's a ton of stuff they can't do.
Try an angiogram outside of the US and they'll have to open you up with a scaple.

That's why they have a lower rate of covid deaths? Ok....

they have a lower rate because the people in those countries are more compliant and not resistant to authority.

Do you really think a 6 week total lockdown like Italy where people weren't even allowed to walk on the streets would be possible in this country?

Do you really think the Trump.cult wouldnt be acting like such morons about wearing masks and distancing if their Dear Leader had not downplayed the pandemic and urged them not to follow these measures? Of course not. So there you have it.

Your weak brain can't accept the fact that Blue cities and Democrats are masking and distancing and still spiking.

 

[22lcidw]

Putting an end to the lie that there was a Trump economic miracle. Trump entered office with dropping unemployment and a steadily rising market. He leaves the country in shambles.

US economy: Trump will leave office with a historically bad economic record

Alone among the 13 presidents since World War Two, Trump will exit the White House with fewer Americans employed than when he started. He will have overseen punier growth in economic output than any of the previous 12 presidents.

His throwback "America First" agenda has failed to restore the old economic engine that powered an earlier era's prosperity. On Trump's watch, industrial production has fallen. The Federal Reserve says the manufacturing sector fell into recession in 2019 even before the coronavirus pandemic hit.

how many of those presidents had a virus problem like he has?...before it hit we were doing pretty good.....

Before it hit he couldn't hit 3% gdp growth while running a trillion dollar deficit. Weak..

And what excuse do you have ready to go when Biden won't be able to crack 3%? Because it's guaranteed you won't be saying he's weak.

I'll say it's weak, I'm not a democrat.

you sure post like you are one....

Why? Because I'm fiscally responsible? Yeah the repubs sure through that one out.

nope.....just about every thread i see you in you always seem to be on the side of the dems/liberals no matter what the topic is....i have never seen you bad mouth the left,and i have been in a quite a few threads with you...maybe you feel if you do that one of them will call you a "trumper".....is that why?...

And what should I support repubs on right now? I agreed with them when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order, they threw that out with trump. I agreed when they pretended to care about deficits, they through that out too. Tariffs never work and are failed policy. So what failed policy you want me to support?

if you always seem to be agreeing with the left in these threads then does that not make you look like you are one of them?..

I don't like either very much. You don't have any failed policy you think I should be supporting then?

why would i want you to support a failed policy?...but then both sides have so many of them its getting hard to find one that actually works...most just help a percentage of people and everybody else,tough shit.....

Well the right does the same thing over and over. They cut taxes, increase military spending, and increase debt. I don't support that so I'm not a republican. Dems aren't much better, but 4 years ago was a whole lot better than now so trumps failures are extreme.

lots of people feel they are better off now than 4 years ago (before this virus)....and democrats do a lot of shit things too,i lived 50 years in California and watched that states quality of living go from an almost utopia for just about everyone living there to what it is now for many residents of that state.....not that great.....

Sure they do, but repubs repeat the same failure over and over. They cut taxes, increase military spending, and increase debt. They keep telling the people that this time the square peg will fit into the round hole. It never will. Dems at least have some ideas. Clearly we need to do something about the cost of healthcare, repubs have shown they have nothing. Do you think the square peg will ever fit in the round hole?

see here you are again just bad mouthing the right.....when i mentioned the bullshit in california you laughed at me instead of commenting on it.....so explain the laugh.....

I agree they do dumb things, but that is partly because they have been so successful. Largest economy in the country. If they weren't so successful they couldn't do much of the dumb things they do. Hopefully their population drops will teach them to not be so dumb. The only successful right wing states are loaded with some natural resource.

The repubs do the same thing over and over. Do you think the square peg will fit in the round hole?

Build a new Destroyer for half the price.

 

[Bleipriester]

Putting an end to the lie that there was a Trump economic miracle. Trump entered office with dropping unemployment and a steadily rising market. He leaves the country in shambles.

US economy: Trump will leave office with a historically bad economic record

Alone among the 13 presidents since World War Two, Trump will exit the White House with fewer Americans employed than when he started. He will have overseen punier growth in economic output than any of the previous 12 presidents.

His throwback "America First" agenda has failed to restore the old economic engine that powered an earlier era's prosperity. On Trump's watch, industrial production has fallen. The Federal Reserve says the manufacturing sector fell into recession in 2019 even before the coronavirus pandemic hit.

It is because he is a hoax and did nothing at all. 700.000 manufacturing jobs gone in Trumps two first years alone. Interesting to see the whole number when its done. Unfortunately for you, nobody cares if the President actually works but only to which party he belongs to.

Got a link for that?
Last I checked manufacturing was increasing dramatically under Trump.

Read here:

U.S. Job Loss to China Swells to 3.7 Million - Alliance for American Manufacturing

First two years of Trump presidency saw 700,000 jobs lost.

www.americanmanufacturing.org

Since 2001.

Read again.

It clearly said since 2001.

3,7 million since 2001, 700,000 in Trumps two first years, its even in the link.

 

[Nostra]

I'm saying that it wouldn't have mattered who was in office.

Which is just so obviously absurd.

Tell me how the people in this country would have been so different if Trump wasn't president.

I bet all those idiots who went to Sturgis would have all stayed home with masks on right?

If we had a strong national policy it would have been illegal.

and who would have enforced it?

We can't even enforce our immigration laws and you expect some podunk cop in S Dakota to arrest tens of thousands of bikers

Now that's hilarious

Arrest the business owners that were hosting.

not gonna happen.

we don't arrest business owners for hiring illegals so what ,makes you think we would arrest business owners for doing business in a state that allowed them to remain open?

Martial law was the only way we could have enforced your dream COVID scenario and martial law will never be used in this country

What we know is trumps response has been a big failure. We have the most deaths and our rate is right at the bottom.

No more so than any other country who did things differently.

and our COVID mortality rate is way less than 1% if you factor in the hundreds of thousands of people that have been infected and never got very sick or had a test

So far 303000 have died and that is .09% of the US population

Really how much better could it be than 9 one hundredths of one percent?

We have the most deaths in the world and one of the highest death rates and you celebrate. Now that is some stupidity. You love failure.

One of the highest death rates?

You are as big of a liar as rightwinger


×
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Global Deaths

.................................................................................................................................................................... DEATH RATE

Western Sahara	2	-	10	10.00%	-	-	-	17	-	1
Mexico	903	-	1,250,044	9.12%	-	3,194,264	25,313	9,906	+249	113,953
Montserrat	186	-	13	7.69%	-	626	116,508	2,420	-	1
Ecuador	812	-	202,110	6.87%	-	690,569	40,421	11,830	-	13,875
Sudan	32	-	21,591	6.28%	-	-	-	510	+8	1,355
Bolivia	794	-	147,150	6.13%	-	377,562	33,256	12,961	+4	9,018
Chad	6	-	1,770	5.76%	-	-	-	113	-	102
Egypt	70	-	121,575	5.69%	-	1,000,000	10,160	1,235	-	6,920
Syria	30	-	9,166	5.65%	-	-	-	524	-	518
China*	3	-	86,741	5.34%	-	160,000,000	114,882	62	-	4,634
Liberia	19	-	1,676	4.95%	-	35,957	8,034	374	-	83
Iran**	641	-	1,115,770	4.70%	-	6,750,359	82,522	13,640	+251	52,447
Fiji	2	-	46	4.35%	-	18,616	21,038	52	-	2
Tanzania	0	-	509	4.13%	-	-	-	9	-	21
Afghanistan	53	-	49,484	3.99%	-	170,855	4,596	1,331	+4	1,975
Peru	1,147	-	984,973	3.72%	-	5,264,455	164,569	30,791	-	36,677
Niger	4	-	2,258	3.54%	-	52,702	2,362	101	-	80
Italy	1,076	-	1,855,737	3.50%	-	24,319,310	402,429	30,708	+491	65,011
Tunisia	337	-	111,361	3.50%	-	512,738	44,335	9,629	-	3,894
United Kingdom	965	-	1,849,403	3.47%	-	47,141,344	709,010	27,815	-	64,170
Guatemala	268	-	129,405	3.43%	-	581,933	35,048	7,794	+22	4,445
Bosnia and Herzegovina	1,020	-	101,461	3.34%	-	466,426	140,324	30,524	+55	3,391
Mali	10	-	5,814	3.34%	-	117,204	5,868	291	-	194
Gambia	52	-	3,782	3.25%	-	27,056	11,524	1,611	-	123
Australia	36	-	28,039	3.24%	-	10,400,623	416,152	1,122	-	908
Bulgaria	810	-	179,449	3.17%	-	1,064,458	151,541	25,547	-	5,688
Malawi	10	-	6,070	3.08%	-	79,223	4,141	317	-	187
Sierra Leone	9	-	2,440	3.07%	-	-	-	309	-	75
Indonesia	71	-	623,309	3.04%	-	6,424,385	24,002	2,329	+137	18,956
Belgium	1,572	-	608,137	2.95%	-	6,336,972	554,801	53,242	+49	17,951
Greece	344	-	125,173	2.95%	-	2,589,438	241,379	11,668	+62	3,687
North Macedonia	1,031	-	73,851	2.91%	-	365,599	175,519	35,455	+26	2,147
Canada	364	-	464,312	2.90%	-	12,559,324	338,902	12,529	+48	13,479
El Salvador	186	-	41,880	2.88%	-	584,631	90,135	6,457	+5	1,205
Algeria	62	-	92,597	2.82%	-	-	-	2,193	+13	2,609
Ireland	438	-	76,185	2.79%	-	2,101,317	432,948	15,697	-	2,124
Chile	851	-	573,830	2.78%	-	5,822,181	310,862	30,638	+45	15,931
Nicaragua	25	-	5,887	2.75%	-	-	-	911	-	162
Colombia	787	-	1,425,774	2.74%	-	7,069,223	142,385	28,717	-	39,053
Spain	1,019	-	1,741,439	2.73%	-	24,918,644	533,319	37,271	-	47,624
Zimbabwe	20	-	11,246	2.73%	-	189,370	12,492	742	-	307
Argentina	916	-	1,498,160	2.72%	-	4,259,194	95,724	33,671	-	40,766
South Africa	403	-	860,964	2.70%	-	5,859,178	101,406	14,901	-	23,276
Somalia	8	-	4,579	2.64%	-	-	-	288	-	121
Brazil	866	-	6,903,833	2.63%	-	25,700,000	122,691	32,959	+41	181,460
Honduras	310	-	114,359	2.60%	-	284,003	29,622	11,928	+1	2,975
Hungary	730	-	283,870	2.51%	-	2,320,419	237,534	29,059	+165	7,130
Vietnam	0	-	1,402	2.50%	-	1,431,631	14,985	15	-	35
Haiti	20	-	9,491	2.45%	-	34,734	3,000	820	-	233
DRC	33	-	14,512	2.45%	-	-	-	1,366	+4	356
France	865	-	2,376,852	2.44%	-	28,942,112	432,054	35,482	-	57,911
Romania	693	-	559,587	2.41%	-	4,436,130	227,798	28,735	+109	13,494
Barbados	24	-	292	2.40%	-	52,861	184,169	1,017	-	7
Sweden	738	-	320,098	2.35%	-	3,718,476	365,159	31,434	-	7,514
Jamaica	93	-	11,792	2.32%	-	126,540	43,116	4,018	-	273
Iraq	328	-	575,972	2.19%	-	3,933,815	102,354	14,986	+24	12,603
Suriname	201	-	5,353	2.19%	-	22,676	39,004	9,208	-	117
Slovenia	1,019	-	96,745	2.18%	-	594,115	287,377	46,796	+44	2,107
Belize	477	-	9,295	2.10%	-	48,864	119,622	22,755	-	195
Myanmar	42	-	109,512	2.09%	-	1,456,866	26,810	2,015	+24	2,292
Paraguay	281	-	93,582	2.09%	-	500,744	71,987	13,453	-	1,953
Albania	354	-	49,191	2.07%	-	219,385	76,537	17,161	+13	1,016
Moldova	733	-	127,253	2.04%	-	507,145	143,024	35,888	+26	2,598
Senegal	22	-	17,146	2.04%	-	246,147	15,526	1,081	+1	350
Togo	8	-	3,251	2.03%	-	160,765	20,378	412	-	66
Poland	605	-	1,140,572	2.01%	-	6,695,762	176,304	30,032	+96	22,960
Pakistan	42	-	440,787	2.00%	-	6,064,220	28,576	2,077	+36	8,832
Zambia	21	-	18,322	2.00%	-	489,926	28,187	1,054	-	367
Brunei	7	-	152	1.97%	-	77,829	181,436	354	-	3
Philippines	82	-	450,733	1.94%	-	6,264,737	58,740	4,226	+24	8,757
South Sudan	5	-	3,206	1.93%	-	63,753	4,989	251	-	62
Mauritius	8	-	523	1.91%	-	289,552	228,717	413	-	10
Eswatini	116	-	6,768	1.88%	-	63,144	57,759	6,191	-	127
United States	937	-	16,757,178	1.83%	-	221,314,293	676,456	51,219	+102	306,561

You realize how many countries there are right?

Yes.

WTF does that have to do with your blatant lie?

It is one of the worst. Why aren't we on the list of lowest rates?

Not even close to being one of the worst, liar.

No, we are on of the worst obviously.

My link confirms you are a lying sack of shit, Troll.

It confirms we have one of the worst.

Nope. You are still lying in the face of facts.

Nope we are still really bad.

Look fella, repeating the same lie over and over doesn't change the fact it is a lie.

Why are there so many countries with lower rates?

Because there's a ton of stuff they can't do.
Try an angiogram outside of the US and they'll have to open you up with a scaple.

That's why they have a lower rate of covid deaths? Ok....

they have a lower rate because the people in those countries are more compliant and not resistant to authority.

Do you really think a 6 week total lockdown like Italy where people weren't even allowed to walk on the streets would be possible in this country?

Do you really think the Trump.cult wouldnt be acting like such morons about wearing masks and distancing if their Dear Leader had not downplayed the pandemic and urged them not to follow these measures? Of course not. So there you have it.

The leading death states are run by Dimwingers, Dummy.

 

[Faun]

Trump is handing Pedo Joe an economy with falling unemployment, record DOW, low inflation, and two vaccines coming online to end the Kung Flu.

So? Except for the vaccines, what you described is what Obama handed Trump.

So Fawnboi, you are saying Obama left Trump with a "historically bad economy"?

No, I'm saying Obama handed Trump "an economy with falling unemployment, record DOW, low inflation."

Oh, so you agree with me that rightwinger is a liar and a troll.

Got it.

No, I agreed with no such thing. You're truly demented.

Has to be one or the other............and we all know it is that rightwinger is a liar and a troll.

You just don't have the balls to admit it.

LOL

No, dumbfuck, it's not "one or the other." You mentioned only a select few components of the economy. What you left out was GDP, which was 1.7% during Obama's final year but is -4.6% so far for this year with one quarter remaining. Secondly, you left out the fact that we are currently in a recession which Obama did not hand Trump a recession. Thirdly, Obama handed Trump an unemployment rate of 4.7% where as the unemployment rate is currently 43% higher than that.

I mentioned exactly what the lying sack of shit OP mentioned, Moron.

Please try to keep up, Stupid.

LOL

Now you're lying again, Pinocchio. The OP also mentioned Trump is the only president since Hoover to leave office with negative job growth and the OP also mentioned Trump is handing off the worst economy as well since then, which includes GDP that you left out.



Alone among the 13 presidents since World War Two, Trump will exit the White House with fewer Americans employed than when he started. He will have overseen punier growth in economic output than any of the previous 12 presidents. Which is true, despite your whining.

​

Annualized Real GDP Growth​

​

D-Kennedy................................. 5.5​

D-Johnson.................................. 5.0​

D-Truman.................................... 4.7​

D-Clinton.................................... 3.8​

D-Reagan.................................... 3.6​

D-Carter....................................... 3.2​

R-Ford........................................... 2.9​

R-Nixon........................................ 2.7​

R-Eisenhower............................. 2.5​

R-Bush41..................................... 2.2​

D-Obama.................................... 1.9​

R-Bush43..................................... 1.8​

R-Trump....................................... 1.0​

In which city do you live?

Boca Raton. Not too far from Trump's soon-to-be former winter White House.

 

[DBA]

I'm saying that it wouldn't have mattered who was in office.

Which is just so obviously absurd.

Tell me how the people in this country would have been so different if Trump wasn't president.

I bet all those idiots who went to Sturgis would have all stayed home with masks on right?

If we had a strong national policy it would have been illegal.

and who would have enforced it?

We can't even enforce our immigration laws and you expect some podunk cop in S Dakota to arrest tens of thousands of bikers

Now that's hilarious

Arrest the business owners that were hosting.

not gonna happen.

we don't arrest business owners for hiring illegals so what ,makes you think we would arrest business owners for doing business in a state that allowed them to remain open?

Martial law was the only way we could have enforced your dream COVID scenario and martial law will never be used in this country

What we know is trumps response has been a big failure. We have the most deaths and our rate is right at the bottom.

No more so than any other country who did things differently.

and our COVID mortality rate is way less than 1% if you factor in the hundreds of thousands of people that have been infected and never got very sick or had a test

So far 303000 have died and that is .09% of the US population

Really how much better could it be than 9 one hundredths of one percent?

We have the most deaths in the world and one of the highest death rates and you celebrate. Now that is some stupidity. You love failure.

One of the highest death rates?

You are as big of a liar as rightwinger


×
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Global Deaths

.................................................................................................................................................................... DEATH RATE

Western Sahara	2	-	10	10.00%	-	-	-	17	-	1
Mexico	903	-	1,250,044	9.12%	-	3,194,264	25,313	9,906	+249	113,953
Montserrat	186	-	13	7.69%	-	626	116,508	2,420	-	1
Ecuador	812	-	202,110	6.87%	-	690,569	40,421	11,830	-	13,875
Sudan	32	-	21,591	6.28%	-	-	-	510	+8	1,355
Bolivia	794	-	147,150	6.13%	-	377,562	33,256	12,961	+4	9,018
Chad	6	-	1,770	5.76%	-	-	-	113	-	102
Egypt	70	-	121,575	5.69%	-	1,000,000	10,160	1,235	-	6,920
Syria	30	-	9,166	5.65%	-	-	-	524	-	518
China*	3	-	86,741	5.34%	-	160,000,000	114,882	62	-	4,634
Liberia	19	-	1,676	4.95%	-	35,957	8,034	374	-	83
Iran**	641	-	1,115,770	4.70%	-	6,750,359	82,522	13,640	+251	52,447
Fiji	2	-	46	4.35%	-	18,616	21,038	52	-	2
Tanzania	0	-	509	4.13%	-	-	-	9	-	21
Afghanistan	53	-	49,484	3.99%	-	170,855	4,596	1,331	+4	1,975
Peru	1,147	-	984,973	3.72%	-	5,264,455	164,569	30,791	-	36,677
Niger	4	-	2,258	3.54%	-	52,702	2,362	101	-	80
Italy	1,076	-	1,855,737	3.50%	-	24,319,310	402,429	30,708	+491	65,011
Tunisia	337	-	111,361	3.50%	-	512,738	44,335	9,629	-	3,894
United Kingdom	965	-	1,849,403	3.47%	-	47,141,344	709,010	27,815	-	64,170
Guatemala	268	-	129,405	3.43%	-	581,933	35,048	7,794	+22	4,445
Bosnia and Herzegovina	1,020	-	101,461	3.34%	-	466,426	140,324	30,524	+55	3,391
Mali	10	-	5,814	3.34%	-	117,204	5,868	291	-	194
Gambia	52	-	3,782	3.25%	-	27,056	11,524	1,611	-	123
Australia	36	-	28,039	3.24%	-	10,400,623	416,152	1,122	-	908
Bulgaria	810	-	179,449	3.17%	-	1,064,458	151,541	25,547	-	5,688
Malawi	10	-	6,070	3.08%	-	79,223	4,141	317	-	187
Sierra Leone	9	-	2,440	3.07%	-	-	-	309	-	75
Indonesia	71	-	623,309	3.04%	-	6,424,385	24,002	2,329	+137	18,956
Belgium	1,572	-	608,137	2.95%	-	6,336,972	554,801	53,242	+49	17,951
Greece	344	-	125,173	2.95%	-	2,589,438	241,379	11,668	+62	3,687
North Macedonia	1,031	-	73,851	2.91%	-	365,599	175,519	35,455	+26	2,147
Canada	364	-	464,312	2.90%	-	12,559,324	338,902	12,529	+48	13,479
El Salvador	186	-	41,880	2.88%	-	584,631	90,135	6,457	+5	1,205
Algeria	62	-	92,597	2.82%	-	-	-	2,193	+13	2,609
Ireland	438	-	76,185	2.79%	-	2,101,317	432,948	15,697	-	2,124
Chile	851	-	573,830	2.78%	-	5,822,181	310,862	30,638	+45	15,931
Nicaragua	25	-	5,887	2.75%	-	-	-	911	-	162
Colombia	787	-	1,425,774	2.74%	-	7,069,223	142,385	28,717	-	39,053
Spain	1,019	-	1,741,439	2.73%	-	24,918,644	533,319	37,271	-	47,624
Zimbabwe	20	-	11,246	2.73%	-	189,370	12,492	742	-	307
Argentina	916	-	1,498,160	2.72%	-	4,259,194	95,724	33,671	-	40,766
South Africa	403	-	860,964	2.70%	-	5,859,178	101,406	14,901	-	23,276
Somalia	8	-	4,579	2.64%	-	-	-	288	-	121
Brazil	866	-	6,903,833	2.63%	-	25,700,000	122,691	32,959	+41	181,460
Honduras	310	-	114,359	2.60%	-	284,003	29,622	11,928	+1	2,975
Hungary	730	-	283,870	2.51%	-	2,320,419	237,534	29,059	+165	7,130
Vietnam	0	-	1,402	2.50%	-	1,431,631	14,985	15	-	35
Haiti	20	-	9,491	2.45%	-	34,734	3,000	820	-	233
DRC	33	-	14,512	2.45%	-	-	-	1,366	+4	356
France	865	-	2,376,852	2.44%	-	28,942,112	432,054	35,482	-	57,911
Romania	693	-	559,587	2.41%	-	4,436,130	227,798	28,735	+109	13,494
Barbados	24	-	292	2.40%	-	52,861	184,169	1,017	-	7
Sweden	738	-	320,098	2.35%	-	3,718,476	365,159	31,434	-	7,514
Jamaica	93	-	11,792	2.32%	-	126,540	43,116	4,018	-	273
Iraq	328	-	575,972	2.19%	-	3,933,815	102,354	14,986	+24	12,603
Suriname	201	-	5,353	2.19%	-	22,676	39,004	9,208	-	117
Slovenia	1,019	-	96,745	2.18%	-	594,115	287,377	46,796	+44	2,107
Belize	477	-	9,295	2.10%	-	48,864	119,622	22,755	-	195
Myanmar	42	-	109,512	2.09%	-	1,456,866	26,810	2,015	+24	2,292
Paraguay	281	-	93,582	2.09%	-	500,744	71,987	13,453	-	1,953
Albania	354	-	49,191	2.07%	-	219,385	76,537	17,161	+13	1,016
Moldova	733	-	127,253	2.04%	-	507,145	143,024	35,888	+26	2,598
Senegal	22	-	17,146	2.04%	-	246,147	15,526	1,081	+1	350
Togo	8	-	3,251	2.03%	-	160,765	20,378	412	-	66
Poland	605	-	1,140,572	2.01%	-	6,695,762	176,304	30,032	+96	22,960
Pakistan	42	-	440,787	2.00%	-	6,064,220	28,576	2,077	+36	8,832
Zambia	21	-	18,322	2.00%	-	489,926	28,187	1,054	-	367
Brunei	7	-	152	1.97%	-	77,829	181,436	354	-	3
Philippines	82	-	450,733	1.94%	-	6,264,737	58,740	4,226	+24	8,757
South Sudan	5	-	3,206	1.93%	-	63,753	4,989	251	-	62
Mauritius	8	-	523	1.91%	-	289,552	228,717	413	-	10
Eswatini	116	-	6,768	1.88%	-	63,144	57,759	6,191	-	127
United States	937	-	16,757,178	1.83%	-	221,314,293	676,456	51,219	+102	306,561

You realize how many countries there are right?

Yes.

WTF does that have to do with your blatant lie?

It is one of the worst. Why aren't we on the list of lowest rates?

Not even close to being one of the worst, liar.

No, we are on of the worst obviously.

My link confirms you are a lying sack of shit, Troll.

It confirms we have one of the worst.

Nope. You are still lying in the face of facts.

Nope we are still really bad.

Look fella, repeating the same lie over and over doesn't change the fact it is a lie.

Why are there so many countries with lower rates?

Because there's a ton of stuff they can't do.
Try an angiogram outside of the US and they'll have to open you up with a scaple.

That's why they have a lower rate of covid deaths? Ok....

they have a lower rate because the people in those countries are more compliant and not resistant to authority.

Do you really think a 6 week total lockdown like Italy where people weren't even allowed to walk on the streets would be possible in this country?

Do you really think the Trump.cult would be acting like such morons about wearing masks and distancing if their Dear Leader had not downplayed the pandemic and urged them not to follow these measures? Of course not.

Isn't that what you liberal lemmings in blue states have been doing? How has that worked out for you?

 

[Brain357]

Putting an end to the lie that there was a Trump economic miracle. Trump entered office with dropping unemployment and a steadily rising market. He leaves the country in shambles.

US economy: Trump will leave office with a historically bad economic record

Alone among the 13 presidents since World War Two, Trump will exit the White House with fewer Americans employed than when he started. He will have overseen punier growth in economic output than any of the previous 12 presidents.

His throwback "America First" agenda has failed to restore the old economic engine that powered an earlier era's prosperity. On Trump's watch, industrial production has fallen. The Federal Reserve says the manufacturing sector fell into recession in 2019 even before the coronavirus pandemic hit.

how many of those presidents had a virus problem like he has?...before it hit we were doing pretty good.....

Before it hit he couldn't hit 3% gdp growth while running a trillion dollar deficit. Weak..

And what excuse do you have ready to go when Biden won't be able to crack 3%? Because it's guaranteed you won't be saying he's weak.

I'll say it's weak, I'm not a democrat.

you sure post like you are one....

Why? Because I'm fiscally responsible? Yeah the repubs sure through that one out.

nope.....just about every thread i see you in you always seem to be on the side of the dems/liberals no matter what the topic is....i have never seen you bad mouth the left,and i have been in a quite a few threads with you...maybe you feel if you do that one of them will call you a "trumper".....is that why?...

And what should I support repubs on right now? I agreed with them when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order, they threw that out with trump. I agreed when they pretended to care about deficits, they through that out too. Tariffs never work and are failed policy. So what failed policy you want me to support?

if you always seem to be agreeing with the left in these threads then does that not make you look like you are one of them?..

I don't like either very much. You don't have any failed policy you think I should be supporting then?

why would i want you to support a failed policy?...but then both sides have so many of them its getting hard to find one that actually works...most just help a percentage of people and everybody else,tough shit.....

Well the right does the same thing over and over. They cut taxes, increase military spending, and increase debt. I don't support that so I'm not a republican. Dems aren't much better, but 4 years ago was a whole lot better than now so trumps failures are extreme.

lots of people feel they are better off now than 4 years ago (before this virus)....and democrats do a lot of shit things too,i lived 50 years in California and watched that states quality of living go from an almost utopia for just about everyone living there to what it is now for many residents of that state.....not that great.....

Sure they do, but repubs repeat the same failure over and over. They cut taxes, increase military spending, and increase debt. They keep telling the people that this time the square peg will fit into the round hole. It never will. Dems at least have some ideas. Clearly we need to do something about the cost of healthcare, repubs have shown they have nothing. Do you think the square peg will ever fit in the round hole?

see here you are again just bad mouthing the right.....when i mentioned the bullshit in california you laughed at me instead of commenting on it.....so explain the laugh.....

I agree they do dumb things, but that is partly because they have been so successful. Largest economy in the country. If they weren't so successful they couldn't do much of the dumb things they do. Hopefully their population drops will teach them to not be so dumb. The only successful right wing states are loaded with some natural resource.

The repubs do the same thing over and over. Do you think the square peg will fit in the round hole?

so if you are succesful you fuck up more than those that cant get shit going?.....what dumb things has that success made them do?....

All their regulations. If they weren't such a big economy they couldn't make them happen. Companies would just not sell into CA. But because they are so successful they can dictate things like that.

 

[Brain357]

I'm saying that it wouldn't have mattered who was in office.

Which is just so obviously absurd.

Tell me how the people in this country would have been so different if Trump wasn't president.

I bet all those idiots who went to Sturgis would have all stayed home with masks on right?

If we had a strong national policy it would have been illegal.

and who would have enforced it?

We can't even enforce our immigration laws and you expect some podunk cop in S Dakota to arrest tens of thousands of bikers

Now that's hilarious

Arrest the business owners that were hosting.

not gonna happen.

we don't arrest business owners for hiring illegals so what ,makes you think we would arrest business owners for doing business in a state that allowed them to remain open?

Martial law was the only way we could have enforced your dream COVID scenario and martial law will never be used in this country

What we know is trumps response has been a big failure. We have the most deaths and our rate is right at the bottom.

No more so than any other country who did things differently.

and our COVID mortality rate is way less than 1% if you factor in the hundreds of thousands of people that have been infected and never got very sick or had a test

So far 303000 have died and that is .09% of the US population

Really how much better could it be than 9 one hundredths of one percent?

We have the most deaths in the world and one of the highest death rates and you celebrate. Now that is some stupidity. You love failure.

One of the highest death rates?

You are as big of a liar as rightwinger


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Coronavirus (COVID-19) Global Deaths

.................................................................................................................................................................... DEATH RATE

Western Sahara	2	-	10	10.00%	-	-	-	17	-	1
Mexico	903	-	1,250,044	9.12%	-	3,194,264	25,313	9,906	+249	113,953
Montserrat	186	-	13	7.69%	-	626	116,508	2,420	-	1
Ecuador	812	-	202,110	6.87%	-	690,569	40,421	11,830	-	13,875
Sudan	32	-	21,591	6.28%	-	-	-	510	+8	1,355
Bolivia	794	-	147,150	6.13%	-	377,562	33,256	12,961	+4	9,018
Chad	6	-	1,770	5.76%	-	-	-	113	-	102
Egypt	70	-	121,575	5.69%	-	1,000,000	10,160	1,235	-	6,920
Syria	30	-	9,166	5.65%	-	-	-	524	-	518
China*	3	-	86,741	5.34%	-	160,000,000	114,882	62	-	4,634
Liberia	19	-	1,676	4.95%	-	35,957	8,034	374	-	83
Iran**	641	-	1,115,770	4.70%	-	6,750,359	82,522	13,640	+251	52,447
Fiji	2	-	46	4.35%	-	18,616	21,038	52	-	2
Tanzania	0	-	509	4.13%	-	-	-	9	-	21
Afghanistan	53	-	49,484	3.99%	-	170,855	4,596	1,331	+4	1,975
Peru	1,147	-	984,973	3.72%	-	5,264,455	164,569	30,791	-	36,677
Niger	4	-	2,258	3.54%	-	52,702	2,362	101	-	80
Italy	1,076	-	1,855,737	3.50%	-	24,319,310	402,429	30,708	+491	65,011
Tunisia	337	-	111,361	3.50%	-	512,738	44,335	9,629	-	3,894
United Kingdom	965	-	1,849,403	3.47%	-	47,141,344	709,010	27,815	-	64,170
Guatemala	268	-	129,405	3.43%	-	581,933	35,048	7,794	+22	4,445
Bosnia and Herzegovina	1,020	-	101,461	3.34%	-	466,426	140,324	30,524	+55	3,391
Mali	10	-	5,814	3.34%	-	117,204	5,868	291	-	194
Gambia	52	-	3,782	3.25%	-	27,056	11,524	1,611	-	123
Australia	36	-	28,039	3.24%	-	10,400,623	416,152	1,122	-	908
Bulgaria	810	-	179,449	3.17%	-	1,064,458	151,541	25,547	-	5,688
Malawi	10	-	6,070	3.08%	-	79,223	4,141	317	-	187
Sierra Leone	9	-	2,440	3.07%	-	-	-	309	-	75
Indonesia	71	-	623,309	3.04%	-	6,424,385	24,002	2,329	+137	18,956
Belgium	1,572	-	608,137	2.95%	-	6,336,972	554,801	53,242	+49	17,951
Greece	344	-	125,173	2.95%	-	2,589,438	241,379	11,668	+62	3,687
North Macedonia	1,031	-	73,851	2.91%	-	365,599	175,519	35,455	+26	2,147
Canada	364	-	464,312	2.90%	-	12,559,324	338,902	12,529	+48	13,479
El Salvador	186	-	41,880	2.88%	-	584,631	90,135	6,457	+5	1,205
Algeria	62	-	92,597	2.82%	-	-	-	2,193	+13	2,609
Ireland	438	-	76,185	2.79%	-	2,101,317	432,948	15,697	-	2,124
Chile	851	-	573,830	2.78%	-	5,822,181	310,862	30,638	+45	15,931
Nicaragua	25	-	5,887	2.75%	-	-	-	911	-	162
Colombia	787	-	1,425,774	2.74%	-	7,069,223	142,385	28,717	-	39,053
Spain	1,019	-	1,741,439	2.73%	-	24,918,644	533,319	37,271	-	47,624
Zimbabwe	20	-	11,246	2.73%	-	189,370	12,492	742	-	307
Argentina	916	-	1,498,160	2.72%	-	4,259,194	95,724	33,671	-	40,766
South Africa	403	-	860,964	2.70%	-	5,859,178	101,406	14,901	-	23,276
Somalia	8	-	4,579	2.64%	-	-	-	288	-	121
Brazil	866	-	6,903,833	2.63%	-	25,700,000	122,691	32,959	+41	181,460
Honduras	310	-	114,359	2.60%	-	284,003	29,622	11,928	+1	2,975
Hungary	730	-	283,870	2.51%	-	2,320,419	237,534	29,059	+165	7,130
Vietnam	0	-	1,402	2.50%	-	1,431,631	14,985	15	-	35
Haiti	20	-	9,491	2.45%	-	34,734	3,000	820	-	233
DRC	33	-	14,512	2.45%	-	-	-	1,366	+4	356
France	865	-	2,376,852	2.44%	-	28,942,112	432,054	35,482	-	57,911
Romania	693	-	559,587	2.41%	-	4,436,130	227,798	28,735	+109	13,494
Barbados	24	-	292	2.40%	-	52,861	184,169	1,017	-	7
Sweden	738	-	320,098	2.35%	-	3,718,476	365,159	31,434	-	7,514
Jamaica	93	-	11,792	2.32%	-	126,540	43,116	4,018	-	273
Iraq	328	-	575,972	2.19%	-	3,933,815	102,354	14,986	+24	12,603
Suriname	201	-	5,353	2.19%	-	22,676	39,004	9,208	-	117
Slovenia	1,019	-	96,745	2.18%	-	594,115	287,377	46,796	+44	2,107
Belize	477	-	9,295	2.10%	-	48,864	119,622	22,755	-	195
Myanmar	42	-	109,512	2.09%	-	1,456,866	26,810	2,015	+24	2,292
Paraguay	281	-	93,582	2.09%	-	500,744	71,987	13,453	-	1,953
Albania	354	-	49,191	2.07%	-	219,385	76,537	17,161	+13	1,016
Moldova	733	-	127,253	2.04%	-	507,145	143,024	35,888	+26	2,598
Senegal	22	-	17,146	2.04%	-	246,147	15,526	1,081	+1	350
Togo	8	-	3,251	2.03%	-	160,765	20,378	412	-	66
Poland	605	-	1,140,572	2.01%	-	6,695,762	176,304	30,032	+96	22,960
Pakistan	42	-	440,787	2.00%	-	6,064,220	28,576	2,077	+36	8,832
Zambia	21	-	18,322	2.00%	-	489,926	28,187	1,054	-	367
Brunei	7	-	152	1.97%	-	77,829	181,436	354	-	3
Philippines	82	-	450,733	1.94%	-	6,264,737	58,740	4,226	+24	8,757
South Sudan	5	-	3,206	1.93%	-	63,753	4,989	251	-	62
Mauritius	8	-	523	1.91%	-	289,552	228,717	413	-	10
Eswatini	116	-	6,768	1.88%	-	63,144	57,759	6,191	-	127
United States	937	-	16,757,178	1.83%	-	221,314,293	676,456	51,219	+102	306,561

You realize how many countries there are right?

Yes.

WTF does that have to do with your blatant lie?

It is one of the worst. Why aren't we on the list of lowest rates?

Not even close to being one of the worst, liar.

No, we are on of the worst obviously.

My link confirms you are a lying sack of shit, Troll.

It confirms we have one of the worst.

Nope. You are still lying in the face of facts.

Nope we are still really bad.

Look fella, repeating the same lie over and over doesn't change the fact it is a lie.

Why are there so many countries with lower rates?

Because there's a ton of stuff they can't do.
Try an angiogram outside of the US and they'll have to open you up with a scaple.

That's why they have a lower rate of covid deaths? Ok....

they have a lower rate because the people in those countries are more compliant and not resistant to authority.

Do you really think a 6 week total lockdown like Italy where people weren't even allowed to walk on the streets would be possible in this country?

Do you really think the Trump.cult wouldnt be acting like such morons about wearing masks and distancing if their Dear Leader had not downplayed the pandemic and urged them not to follow these measures? Of course not. So there you have it.

The leading death states are run by Dimwingers, Dummy.

There are plenty of right wing states in the top 10. The virus isn't partisan.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I'm saying that it wouldn't have mattered who was in office.

Which is just so obviously absurd.

Tell me how the people in this country would have been so different if Trump wasn't president.

I bet all those idiots who went to Sturgis would have all stayed home with masks on right?

If we had a strong national policy it would have been illegal.

and who would have enforced it?

We can't even enforce our immigration laws and you expect some podunk cop in S Dakota to arrest tens of thousands of bikers

Now that's hilarious

Arrest the business owners that were hosting.

not gonna happen.

we don't arrest business owners for hiring illegals so what ,makes you think we would arrest business owners for doing business in a state that allowed them to remain open?

Martial law was the only way we could have enforced your dream COVID scenario and martial law will never be used in this country

What we know is trumps response has been a big failure. We have the most deaths and our rate is right at the bottom.

No more so than any other country who did things differently.

and our COVID mortality rate is way less than 1% if you factor in the hundreds of thousands of people that have been infected and never got very sick or had a test

So far 303000 have died and that is .09% of the US population

Really how much better could it be than 9 one hundredths of one percent?

We have the most deaths in the world and one of the highest death rates and you celebrate. Now that is some stupidity. You love failure.

One of the highest death rates?

You are as big of a liar as rightwinger


×
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Global Deaths

.................................................................................................................................................................... DEATH RATE

Western Sahara	2	-	10	10.00%	-	-	-	17	-	1
Mexico	903	-	1,250,044	9.12%	-	3,194,264	25,313	9,906	+249	113,953
Montserrat	186	-	13	7.69%	-	626	116,508	2,420	-	1
Ecuador	812	-	202,110	6.87%	-	690,569	40,421	11,830	-	13,875
Sudan	32	-	21,591	6.28%	-	-	-	510	+8	1,355
Bolivia	794	-	147,150	6.13%	-	377,562	33,256	12,961	+4	9,018
Chad	6	-	1,770	5.76%	-	-	-	113	-	102
Egypt	70	-	121,575	5.69%	-	1,000,000	10,160	1,235	-	6,920
Syria	30	-	9,166	5.65%	-	-	-	524	-	518
China*	3	-	86,741	5.34%	-	160,000,000	114,882	62	-	4,634
Liberia	19	-	1,676	4.95%	-	35,957	8,034	374	-	83
Iran**	641	-	1,115,770	4.70%	-	6,750,359	82,522	13,640	+251	52,447
Fiji	2	-	46	4.35%	-	18,616	21,038	52	-	2
Tanzania	0	-	509	4.13%	-	-	-	9	-	21
Afghanistan	53	-	49,484	3.99%	-	170,855	4,596	1,331	+4	1,975
Peru	1,147	-	984,973	3.72%	-	5,264,455	164,569	30,791	-	36,677
Niger	4	-	2,258	3.54%	-	52,702	2,362	101	-	80
Italy	1,076	-	1,855,737	3.50%	-	24,319,310	402,429	30,708	+491	65,011
Tunisia	337	-	111,361	3.50%	-	512,738	44,335	9,629	-	3,894
United Kingdom	965	-	1,849,403	3.47%	-	47,141,344	709,010	27,815	-	64,170
Guatemala	268	-	129,405	3.43%	-	581,933	35,048	7,794	+22	4,445
Bosnia and Herzegovina	1,020	-	101,461	3.34%	-	466,426	140,324	30,524	+55	3,391
Mali	10	-	5,814	3.34%	-	117,204	5,868	291	-	194
Gambia	52	-	3,782	3.25%	-	27,056	11,524	1,611	-	123
Australia	36	-	28,039	3.24%	-	10,400,623	416,152	1,122	-	908
Bulgaria	810	-	179,449	3.17%	-	1,064,458	151,541	25,547	-	5,688
Malawi	10	-	6,070	3.08%	-	79,223	4,141	317	-	187
Sierra Leone	9	-	2,440	3.07%	-	-	-	309	-	75
Indonesia	71	-	623,309	3.04%	-	6,424,385	24,002	2,329	+137	18,956
Belgium	1,572	-	608,137	2.95%	-	6,336,972	554,801	53,242	+49	17,951
Greece	344	-	125,173	2.95%	-	2,589,438	241,379	11,668	+62	3,687
North Macedonia	1,031	-	73,851	2.91%	-	365,599	175,519	35,455	+26	2,147
Canada	364	-	464,312	2.90%	-	12,559,324	338,902	12,529	+48	13,479
El Salvador	186	-	41,880	2.88%	-	584,631	90,135	6,457	+5	1,205
Algeria	62	-	92,597	2.82%	-	-	-	2,193	+13	2,609
Ireland	438	-	76,185	2.79%	-	2,101,317	432,948	15,697	-	2,124
Chile	851	-	573,830	2.78%	-	5,822,181	310,862	30,638	+45	15,931
Nicaragua	25	-	5,887	2.75%	-	-	-	911	-	162
Colombia	787	-	1,425,774	2.74%	-	7,069,223	142,385	28,717	-	39,053
Spain	1,019	-	1,741,439	2.73%	-	24,918,644	533,319	37,271	-	47,624
Zimbabwe	20	-	11,246	2.73%	-	189,370	12,492	742	-	307
Argentina	916	-	1,498,160	2.72%	-	4,259,194	95,724	33,671	-	40,766
South Africa	403	-	860,964	2.70%	-	5,859,178	101,406	14,901	-	23,276
Somalia	8	-	4,579	2.64%	-	-	-	288	-	121
Brazil	866	-	6,903,833	2.63%	-	25,700,000	122,691	32,959	+41	181,460
Honduras	310	-	114,359	2.60%	-	284,003	29,622	11,928	+1	2,975
Hungary	730	-	283,870	2.51%	-	2,320,419	237,534	29,059	+165	7,130
Vietnam	0	-	1,402	2.50%	-	1,431,631	14,985	15	-	35
Haiti	20	-	9,491	2.45%	-	34,734	3,000	820	-	233
DRC	33	-	14,512	2.45%	-	-	-	1,366	+4	356
France	865	-	2,376,852	2.44%	-	28,942,112	432,054	35,482	-	57,911
Romania	693	-	559,587	2.41%	-	4,436,130	227,798	28,735	+109	13,494
Barbados	24	-	292	2.40%	-	52,861	184,169	1,017	-	7
Sweden	738	-	320,098	2.35%	-	3,718,476	365,159	31,434	-	7,514
Jamaica	93	-	11,792	2.32%	-	126,540	43,116	4,018	-	273
Iraq	328	-	575,972	2.19%	-	3,933,815	102,354	14,986	+24	12,603
Suriname	201	-	5,353	2.19%	-	22,676	39,004	9,208	-	117
Slovenia	1,019	-	96,745	2.18%	-	594,115	287,377	46,796	+44	2,107
Belize	477	-	9,295	2.10%	-	48,864	119,622	22,755	-	195
Myanmar	42	-	109,512	2.09%	-	1,456,866	26,810	2,015	+24	2,292
Paraguay	281	-	93,582	2.09%	-	500,744	71,987	13,453	-	1,953
Albania	354	-	49,191	2.07%	-	219,385	76,537	17,161	+13	1,016
Moldova	733	-	127,253	2.04%	-	507,145	143,024	35,888	+26	2,598
Senegal	22	-	17,146	2.04%	-	246,147	15,526	1,081	+1	350
Togo	8	-	3,251	2.03%	-	160,765	20,378	412	-	66
Poland	605	-	1,140,572	2.01%	-	6,695,762	176,304	30,032	+96	22,960
Pakistan	42	-	440,787	2.00%	-	6,064,220	28,576	2,077	+36	8,832
Zambia	21	-	18,322	2.00%	-	489,926	28,187	1,054	-	367
Brunei	7	-	152	1.97%	-	77,829	181,436	354	-	3
Philippines	82	-	450,733	1.94%	-	6,264,737	58,740	4,226	+24	8,757
South Sudan	5	-	3,206	1.93%	-	63,753	4,989	251	-	62
Mauritius	8	-	523	1.91%	-	289,552	228,717	413	-	10
Eswatini	116	-	6,768	1.88%	-	63,144	57,759	6,191	-	127
United States	937	-	16,757,178	1.83%	-	221,314,293	676,456	51,219	+102	306,561

You realize how many countries there are right?

Yes.

WTF does that have to do with your blatant lie?

It is one of the worst. Why aren't we on the list of lowest rates?

Not even close to being one of the worst, liar.

No, we are on of the worst obviously.

My link confirms you are a lying sack of shit, Troll.

It confirms we have one of the worst.

Nope. You are still lying in the face of facts.

Nope we are still really bad.

Look fella, repeating the same lie over and over doesn't change the fact it is a lie.

Why are there so many countries with lower rates?

Because there's a ton of stuff they can't do.
Try an angiogram outside of the US and they'll have to open you up with a scaple.

That's why they have a lower rate of covid deaths? Ok....

they have a lower rate because the people in those countries are more compliant and not resistant to authority.

Do you really think a 6 week total lockdown like Italy where people weren't even allowed to walk on the streets would be possible in this country?

Do you really think the Trump.cult would be acting like such morons about wearing masks and distancing if their Dear Leader had not downplayed the pandemic and urged them not to follow these measures? Of course not.

Isn't that what you liberal lemmings in blue states have been doing? How has that worked out for you?

As it turns out, there are lots of Trump cultists even in blue States.

 

[boilermaker55]

Hell, also this is in the news for all the retrumplicans.

Biden and Harris Are Time’s Persons of the Year for 2020
The magazine chose the president-elect and the vice president-elect over frontline health care workers (along with Dr. Anthony S. Fauci), the racial justice movement and President Trump.

• 
  

Putting an end to the lie that there was a Trump economic miracle. Trump entered office with dropping unemployment and a steadily rising market. He leaves the country in shambles.

US economy: Trump will leave office with a historically bad economic record

Alone among the 13 presidents since World War Two, Trump will exit the White House with fewer Americans employed than when he started. He will have overseen punier growth in economic output than any of the previous 12 presidents.

His throwback "America First" agenda has failed to restore the old economic engine that powered an earlier era's prosperity. On Trump's watch, industrial production has fallen. The Federal Reserve says the manufacturing sector fell into recession in 2019 even before the coronavirus pandemic hit.

 

[Brain357]

Putting an end to the lie that there was a Trump economic miracle. Trump entered office with dropping unemployment and a steadily rising market. He leaves the country in shambles.

US economy: Trump will leave office with a historically bad economic record

Alone among the 13 presidents since World War Two, Trump will exit the White House with fewer Americans employed than when he started. He will have overseen punier growth in economic output than any of the previous 12 presidents.

His throwback "America First" agenda has failed to restore the old economic engine that powered an earlier era's prosperity. On Trump's watch, industrial production has fallen. The Federal Reserve says the manufacturing sector fell into recession in 2019 even before the coronavirus pandemic hit.

how many of those presidents had a virus problem like he has?...before it hit we were doing pretty good.....

Before it hit he couldn't hit 3% gdp growth while running a trillion dollar deficit. Weak..

And what excuse do you have ready to go when Biden won't be able to crack 3%? Because it's guaranteed you won't be saying he's weak.

I'll say it's weak, I'm not a democrat.

you sure post like you are one....

Why? Because I'm fiscally responsible? Yeah the repubs sure through that one out.

nope.....just about every thread i see you in you always seem to be on the side of the dems/liberals no matter what the topic is....i have never seen you bad mouth the left,and i have been in a quite a few threads with you...maybe you feel if you do that one of them will call you a "trumper".....is that why?...

And what should I support repubs on right now? I agreed with them when they said a president shouldn't rule by executive order, they threw that out with trump. I agreed when they pretended to care about deficits, they through that out too. Tariffs never work and are failed policy. So what failed policy you want me to support?

if you always seem to be agreeing with the left in these threads then does that not make you look like you are one of them?..

I don't like either very much. You don't have any failed policy you think I should be supporting then?

why would i want you to support a failed policy?...but then both sides have so many of them its getting hard to find one that actually works...most just help a percentage of people and everybody else,tough shit.....

Well the right does the same thing over and over. They cut taxes, increase military spending, and increase debt. I don't support that so I'm not a republican. Dems aren't much better, but 4 years ago was a whole lot better than now so trumps failures are extreme.

lots of people feel they are better off now than 4 years ago (before this virus)....and democrats do a lot of shit things too,i lived 50 years in California and watched that states quality of living go from an almost utopia for just about everyone living there to what it is now for many residents of that state.....not that great.....

Sure they do, but repubs repeat the same failure over and over. They cut taxes, increase military spending, and increase debt. They keep telling the people that this time the square peg will fit into the round hole. It never will. Dems at least have some ideas. Clearly we need to do something about the cost of healthcare, repubs have shown they have nothing. Do you think the square peg will ever fit in the round hole?

see here you are again just bad mouthing the right.....when i mentioned the bullshit in california you laughed at me instead of commenting on it.....so explain the laugh.....

I agree they do dumb things, but that is partly because they have been so successful. Largest economy in the country. If they weren't so successful they couldn't do much of the dumb things they do. Hopefully their population drops will teach them to not be so dumb. The only successful right wing states are loaded with some natural resource.

The repubs do the same thing over and over. Do you think the square peg will fit in the round hole?

so if you are succesful you fuck up more than those that cant get shit going?.....what dumb things has that success made them do?....

You keep ignoring my question. Are you one of the dopes who believe the square peg will fit in the round hole one day? Cause that belief is all the right has right now. Cut taxes, increase military spending, drastically increase debt and repeat.

 

[healthmyths]

The billionaires got their tax cuts and that’s all that really matters.

You realize that the TAX code has built in loopholes for the super rich people to exploit to save millions in taxes?

So tell me then... how come the bottom 50% of Americans paid just 3% while the top 50 paid 97%?

Summary of the Latest Federal Income Tax Data, 2020 Update

The top 1 percent of taxpayers pay a 26.8 percent average individual income tax rate, which is more than six times higher than taxpayers in the bottom 50 percent (4.0 percent).

taxfoundation.org

• In 2017, 143.3 million taxpayers reported earning $10.9 trillion in adjusted gross income and paid $1.6 trillion in individual income taxes.
• The share of reported income earned by the top 1 percent of taxpayers rose to 21 percent, from 19.7 percent in 2016. Their share of federal individual income taxes rose to 38.5 percent, from to 37.3 percent in 2016.
• In 2017, the top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97 percent of all individual income taxes, while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining 3 percent.
• The top 1 percent paid a greater share of individual income taxes (38.5 percent) than the bottom 90 percent combined (29.9 percent).

But of course FACTS mean nothing to dummies that constantly make money off the government!
For example:
The "poor" in 2010..
a) 8 million at least have FREE cell phones.. 1890 NOT EVEN A Millionaire had a cell phone!
b) 40 million getting FREE FOOD ... 1890 millionaires still had to pay!
c) Millions in poverty have TVs,Cars, internet.. things that DIDN"T exist in 1890!

 

[Brain357]

The billionaires got their tax cuts and that’s all that really matters.

You realize that the TAX code has built in loopholes for the super rich people to exploit to save millions in taxes?

So tell me then... how come the bottom 50% of Americans paid just 3% while the top 50 paid 97%?

Summary of the Latest Federal Income Tax Data, 2020 Update

The top 1 percent of taxpayers pay a 26.8 percent average individual income tax rate, which is more than six times higher than taxpayers in the bottom 50 percent (4.0 percent).

taxfoundation.org

• In 2017, 143.3 million taxpayers reported earning $10.9 trillion in adjusted gross income and paid $1.6 trillion in individual income taxes.
• The share of reported income earned by the top 1 percent of taxpayers rose to 21 percent, from 19.7 percent in 2016. Their share of federal individual income taxes rose to 38.5 percent, from to 37.3 percent in 2016.
• In 2017, the top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97 percent of all individual income taxes, while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining 3 percent.
• The top 1 percent paid a greater share of individual income taxes (38.5 percent) than the bottom 90 percent combined (29.9 percent).

But of course FACTS mean nothing to dummies that constantly make money off the government!
For example:
The "poor" in 2010..
a) 8 million at least have FREE cell phones.. 1890 NOT EVEN A Millionaire had a cell phone!
b) 40 million getting FREE FOOD ... 1890 millionaires still had to pay!
c) Millions in poverty have TVs,Cars, internet.. things that DIDN"T exist in 1890!

The wealthy have that much more than the bottom 50%. A sad fact.