Trump would be correct to assert a national emergency in order to build the wall

[Butch_Coolidge]

There is no emergency on the border. Hence there is no need to declare a national emergency.

Although, one of the charges that were going to be brought against Nixon in his impeachment hearings was abuse of power. History repeating itself perhaps?

You mean besides Watergate? Not even close.


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[Butch_Coolidge]

There is no emergency on the border. Hence there is no need to declare a national emergency.

Although, one of the charges that were going to be brought against Nixon in his impeachment hearings was abuse of power. History repeating itself perhaps?

Are you referring to obamacare? You know, lying and manipulating to control 20 of our eceonomy? You know, the bullshit that had to be ruled a TAX to be constitutional. Abuse like that? Or are you referring to an actual power of the federal govt like border protection?
You disingenuous retard

It may be news to you but its too late to impeach Obama. I know it bugs you that a black guy was your president but you missed your chance.

Declaring a national emergency, taking funds away from programs that were voted on by Congress, etc.... those are abuses of power. When the impeachment train gets going (if the report of the OIC confirms what we all already know), Abuse of power is an impeachable offense.

Stay tuned.

No collusion. He’ll get the money he needs, because it’s a drop of piss in a bucket compared to what is actually pissed away for foreign aid and illegals yearly. But Captain Cortez will assure you a bus pass for free. And unicorns and rainbows [emoji304]. Stay tuned.


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[Butch_Coolidge]

There is no emergency on the border. Hence there is no need to declare a national emergency.

Although, one of the charges that were going to be brought against Nixon in his impeachment hearings was abuse of power. History repeating itself perhaps?

That is a point the right cannot accept. Mexico and California say that improper entries are declining, not rising. So, both states have ordered the withdrawal of troops.

When the wall worshipers begin to fail with their arguments, they start another thread. I'm going to finish up on the thread Is building a wall wrong? My posts will save those who are serious about this the trouble of reading 100 threads like this one.

Can we electrify them?


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[danielpalos]

There is no emergency on the border. Hence there is no need to declare a national emergency.

Although, one of the charges that were going to be brought against Nixon in his impeachment hearings was abuse of power. History repeating itself perhaps?

That is a point the right cannot accept. Mexico and California say that improper entries are declining, not rising. So, both states have ordered the withdrawal of troops.

When the wall worshipers begin to fail with their arguments, they start another thread. I'm going to finish up on the thread Is building a wall wrong? My posts will save those who are serious about this the trouble of reading 100 threads like this one.

Can we electrify them?


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a waste of money. wingsuit textile manufacturing is cheaper in less developed economies.

 

[Faun]

Again, the economy was fine. Besides, what law did Trump pass for the economy? And why couldn't Trump tackle a "national emergency" at the same time as keeping the economy trending upwards?

economy was "fine" if you think average 2%GDP with mostly low wage part time jobs being created is fine. Trump dissolved Obama job killing executive orders, lowered corporate taxes, got us out of bad trade deals, said yes to coal and oil, got rid of Obama care mandate, took on China unfair trade polices got the oil pipeline built and in general created a business friendly America from the ashes of Obama's socialism policies.
By the way Obama's last full quarter GDP was trending down, way down.

So is Trump's last quarter and?

And Trump has two more years and feds stopped raising interest rates.

But...but
Trump promised 4 percent GDP

And he was on the road to precisely that which is what spooked the feds and made them start raising rates fast and furious. Now they have backed off and things will get moving again. Trump has two more years then four more.

Oh, please. By “fast and furious,” you really mean a 1.75 point increase over two years.... or one of the slowest increases in history...

 

[sawyerloggingon]

economy was "fine" if you think average 2%GDP with mostly low wage part time jobs being created is fine. Trump dissolved Obama job killing executive orders, lowered corporate taxes, got us out of bad trade deals, said yes to coal and oil, got rid of Obama care mandate, took on China unfair trade polices got the oil pipeline built and in general created a business friendly America from the ashes of Obama's socialism policies.
By the way Obama's last full quarter GDP was trending down, way down.

So is Trump's last quarter and?

And Trump has two more years and feds stopped raising interest rates.

But...but
Trump promised 4 percent GDP

And he was on the road to precisely that which is what spooked the feds and made them start raising rates fast and furious. Now they have backed off and things will get moving again. Trump has two more years then four more.

Oh, please. By “fast and furious,” you really mean a 1.75 point increase over two years.... or one of the slowest increases in history...

Twice as often in 2018 as in obamas eight years

 

[Faun]

So is Trump's last quarter and?

And Trump has two more years and feds stopped raising interest rates.

But...but
Trump promised 4 percent GDP

And he was on the road to precisely that which is what spooked the feds and made them start raising rates fast and furious. Now they have backed off and things will get moving again. Trump has two more years then four more.

Oh, please. By “fast and furious,” you really mean a 1.75 point increase over two years.... or one of the slowest increases in history...

Twice as often in 2018 as in obamas eight years

So? Still a historically slow increase. Do you have anything but whining for Trump?

 

[Correll]

As soon as Mexico sends the money.

No excuses, BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

If Trump is forced to declare a national emergency that may well happen and may be the only way for it to happen.

A national emergency? Has his favorite golf course flooded? There are plenty of illegal immigrants who can fix that for him.

Irrelevant. BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

No problem. Mexico says that the check is in the mail.

Don't care. BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

 

[candycorn]

No excuses, BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

If Trump is forced to declare a national emergency that may well happen and may be the only way for it to happen.

A national emergency? Has his favorite golf course flooded? There are plenty of illegal immigrants who can fix that for him.

Irrelevant. BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

No problem. Mexico says that the check is in the mail.

Don't care. BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

Unfortunately the Congress does. Sorry.

 

[rightwinger]

National Emergencies

Healthcare
Global Warming
Education
Gun violence


Democrats are going to have a ball if Trump declares a national emergency

 

[rightwinger]

No excuses, BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

If Trump is forced to declare a national emergency that may well happen and may be the only way for it to happen.

A national emergency? Has his favorite golf course flooded? There are plenty of illegal immigrants who can fix that for him.

Irrelevant. BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

No problem. Mexico says that the check is in the mail.

Don't care. BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

As soon as Mexico’s check clears

 

[Correll]

A fair point, but not a reason to not BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

As soon as Mexico sends the money.

No excuses, BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

No excuses. We just don't want it for at least a dozen common sense reasons, For one thing, it has been reported that Mexicans ha discovered the ladder.

The time for talk was done decades ago. BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

As soon as Mexico sends the check junior.

YOur delaying tactics are noted and held against you.


Why are you against allowing Americans to control who and what enters their community?

 

[sawyerloggingon]

And Trump has two more years and feds stopped raising interest rates.

But...but
Trump promised 4 percent GDP

And he was on the road to precisely that which is what spooked the feds and made them start raising rates fast and furious. Now they have backed off and things will get moving again. Trump has two more years then four more.

Oh, please. By “fast and furious,” you really mean a 1.75 point increase over two years.... or one of the slowest increases in history...

Twice as often in 2018 as in obamas eight years

So? Still a historically slow increase. Do you have anything but whining for Trump?

a dramatic one year increase from eight years of near zero interest rates.

 

[Correll]

Really? Interesting

So the fact of the matter is that the blob let this emergency fester for 2 years and one month before he did anything; right?

And he still has not done anything.

A fair point, but not a reason to not BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

As soon as Mexico sends the money.

Maybe we could use the money Obama saved by closing GITMO. Oh wait, he never did that did he. Nevermind.

Perhaps he should have declared the GITMO crisis a national emergency!!! It would have been ridiculous but it would have been effective.

Point being that “national emergencies” should be actual emergencies; not a way to fulfill campaign promises.

I realize democrats don't think it's an emergency but Trump does. Elections have consequences.

And so do his supporters.

 

[candycorn]

Really? Interesting

So the fact of the matter is that the blob let this emergency fester for 2 years and one month before he did anything; right?

And he still has not done anything.

A fair point, but not a reason to not BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

As soon as Mexico sends the money.

Maybe we could use the money Obama saved by closing GITMO. Oh wait, he never did that did he. Nevermind.

Perhaps he should have declared the GITMO crisis a national emergency!!! It would have been ridiculous but it would have been effective.

Point being that “national emergencies” should be actual emergencies; not a way to fulfill campaign promises.

I realize democrats don't think it's an emergency but Trump does. Elections have consequences.

If he does, why didn’t he declare one on 1/20/17? Earlier you said he couldn’t because he’d be a dictator. Why wouldn’t his declaration in 2019 not make him a dictator?

 

[Faun]

But...but
Trump promised 4 percent GDP

And he was on the road to precisely that which is what spooked the feds and made them start raising rates fast and furious. Now they have backed off and things will get moving again. Trump has two more years then four more.

Oh, please. By “fast and furious,” you really mean a 1.75 point increase over two years.... or one of the slowest increases in history...

Twice as often in 2018 as in obamas eight years

So? Still a historically slow increase. Do you have anything but whining for Trump?

a dramatic one year increase from eight years of near zero interest rates.

So? We suffered the biggest economic meltdown since the Great Depression. And in part, due to the federal fund rate. So what if they were gun shy about increasing the rate after the last debacle?

Still, it's gone up 1.75 points in 2 years under trump. A small increase. Especially by historical standards.

My question is ... when does the right stop whining every time something doesn't go trump's way?

 

[candycorn]

Trump didn’t campaign on it being a national emergency and didn’t mention envoking the national emergency powers until he lost the House. Something doesn’t “become” an emergency...

 

[K9Buck]

And he was on the road to precisely that which is what spooked the feds and made them start raising rates fast and furious. Now they have backed off and things will get moving again. Trump has two more years then four more.

Oh, please. By “fast and furious,” you really mean a 1.75 point increase over two years.... or one of the slowest increases in history...

Twice as often in 2018 as in obamas eight years

So? Still a historically slow increase. Do you have anything but whining for Trump?

a dramatic one year increase from eight years of near zero interest rates.

So? We suffered the biggest economic meltdown since the Great Depression. And in part, due to the federal fund rate. So what if they were gun shy about increasing the rate after the last debacle?

Still, it's gone up 1.75 points in 2 years under trump. A small increase. Especially by historical standards.

My question is ... when does the right stop whining every time something doesn't go trump's way?

And my question is, when do Democrats put the interests of Americans first?

 

[Faun]

Oh, please. By “fast and furious,” you really mean a 1.75 point increase over two years.... or one of the slowest increases in history...

Twice as often in 2018 as in obamas eight years

So? Still a historically slow increase. Do you have anything but whining for Trump?

a dramatic one year increase from eight years of near zero interest rates.

So? We suffered the biggest economic meltdown since the Great Depression. And in part, due to the federal fund rate. So what if they were gun shy about increasing the rate after the last debacle?

Still, it's gone up 1.75 points in 2 years under trump. A small increase. Especially by historical standards.

My question is ... when does the right stop whining every time something doesn't go trump's way?

And my question is, when do Democrats put the interests of Americans first?

We already do. We just don't put Republican interests, which are not to be confused with American interests, first.

 

[Faun]

No excuses, BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

If Trump is forced to declare a national emergency that may well happen and may be the only way for it to happen.

A national emergency? Has his favorite golf course flooded? There are plenty of illegal immigrants who can fix that for him.

Irrelevant. BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

No problem. Mexico says that the check is in the mail.

Don't care. BUILD THE FUCKING WALL.

Fuck you. We're not rebuilding the wall.