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Trump's Attorney Ordered To Appear In Court Friday Sept. 9 On Rape Allegations Against Trump

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Sep 15: Doe vs. Donald J. Trump: Parties to appear in court 4 status conference (GD 16) - Democratic Underground
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DONALD J. TRUMP and JEFFREY E. EPSTEIN,

Defendants.

RONNIE ABRAMS, United States District Judge:

USDC-SDNY
DOC#:
DATE FILED: 6/30/2016
No. 16-CV-4642 (RA)
ORDER AND NOTICE OF INITIAL CONFERENCE

It is hereby:

ORDERED that counsel for all parties appear for an initial status conference on

September 9, 2016 at 3:15 p.m. in Courtroom 1506 of the U.S. District
Court for the Southern District of New York, 40 Foley Square, New York,
New York.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that, by September 2, 2016, the parties
jointly submit to the

Court a proposed case management plan and scheduling order."

All parties must also submit a letter to the court:

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that, by September 2, 2016, the parties submit a
joint letter, not to exceed five (5) pages, providing the following
information in separate paragraphs:

1.A brief description of the nature of the action and the principal defenses


thereto;

2. A brief explanation of why jurisdiction and venue lie in this Court. If any
party is a corporation, the letter shall state both the place of incorporation
and the principal place of business. If any party is a partnership, limited
partnership, limited liability company or trust, the letter shall state the
citizenship of each of the entity's members, shareholders, partners and/or
trustees;
3. A brief description of all contemplated and/or outstanding motions and
how such motions may affect scheduling in this matter;
4. A brief description of any discovery that has already taken place, and/or
that which will be necessary for the parties to engage in meaningful
settlement negotiations;

5. A brief description of prior settlement discussions (without disclosing the
parties' offers or settlement positions) and the prospect of settlement;
6. The estimated length of trial; and
7. Any other information that the parties believe may assist the Court in
advancing the case to settlement or trial, including, but not limited to, a
description of any dispositive issue or novel issue raised by the case.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that, by September 2, 2016, the parties jointly submit to the
Court a proposed case management plan and scheduling order. A template for the order is
available at U.S. District Court • Southern District of New York. The status letter and the proposed case
management plan should be filed electronically on ECF, consistent with Section 13 .1 of the
Court's Electronic Case Filing (ECF) Rules & Instructions, available at
http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/ecf/ecf_rules _ 080113 .pdf.
Plaintiff is ordered to serve Defendants with a copy of this order and to file an affidavit
on ECF certifying that such service has been effectuated.
SO ORDERED.
Dated: June 30, 2016
New York, New York
Ronnie Abrams
United States District Judge
**********

The court is ordering convicted child molester Jeffrey Epstein to answer together with Trump; not as separate defendants. The case stems from a woman coming forward alleging Trump tied her up and raped her as a 13 year old on a couple occasions at Epstein's Manhattan apartment during the Summer of 1994. She says he threatened to do harm to her and her family members if she ever told. So the statute of limitations may not apply; and certainly when it comes to rape of a child, and intimidation, the court relaxes those requirements more often than not. There are apparently witnesses to the alleged events.

For anyone interested in the progression of the case, or to appear, the date and time and location is given above. I'd like to see a copy of the letter that Trump and Epstein submit. I think that the plaintiff also has to submit a letter anonymously (because of the allegations of threats) via her attorney. Not exactly sure on that one.

Trump & Epstein's defense/settlement outline letter was supposed to be filed last Friday, September 2nd. So a copy of that should be on record already. Again, if anyone is near that courthouse, would be nice to see a copy posted here. Thanks in advance.
 
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Hillary "Dementia" Clinton to serve as key prosecution witness.
Nope. Another girl(s?) at the time. Apparently the allegations say that dozens of minor girls were brought to Epstein's apartment for the purposes of sex with adult men there.
 
His attorney. Not trump himself. Can't be much of a case if they don't want the defendant there.
 
His attorney. Not trump himself. Can't be much of a case if they don't want the defendant there.
It's a case management conference. Typically defendants don't have to appear at those. It's book keeping. But it does afford an opportunity for anyone interested to peek in and maybe go visit the clerk to get a copy of the letter Trump & Epstein submitted last Friday the 2nd of September?

It's a civil case too, not a criminal one; so they handle them a bit differently as to formality and orders to appear. If Trump had to appear at every case that had merit that he is being sued for or is suing someone else for, he'd have a full time job doing nothing but appearing in court.
 
Sep 15: Doe vs. Donald J. Trump: Parties to appear in court 4 status conference (GD 16) - Democratic Underground
************
DONALD J. TRUMP and JEFFREY E. EPSTEIN,

Defendants.

RONNIE ABRAMS, United States District Judge:

USDC-SDNY
DOC#:
DATE FILED: 6/30/2016
No. 16-CV-4642 (RA)
ORDER AND NOTICE OF INITIAL CONFERENCE

It is hereby:

ORDERED that counsel for all parties appear for an initial status conference on

September 9, 2016 at 3:15 p.m. in Courtroom 1506 of the U.S. District
Court for the Southern District of New York, 40 Foley Square, New York,
New York.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that, by September 2, 2016, the parties
jointly submit to the

Court a proposed case management plan and scheduling order."

All parties must also submit a letter to the court:

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that, by September 2, 2016, the parties submit a
joint letter, not to exceed five (5) pages, providing the following
information in separate paragraphs:

1.A brief description of the nature of the action and the principal defenses


thereto;

2. A brief explanation of why jurisdiction and venue lie in this Court. If any
party is a corporation, the letter shall state both the place of incorporation
and the principal place of business. If any party is a partnership, limited
partnership, limited liability company or trust, the letter shall state the
citizenship of each of the entity's members, shareholders, partners and/or
trustees;
3. A brief description of all contemplated and/or outstanding motions and
how such motions may affect scheduling in this matter;
4. A brief description of any discovery that has already taken place, and/or
that which will be necessary for the parties to engage in meaningful
settlement negotiations;

5. A brief description of prior settlement discussions (without disclosing the
parties' offers or settlement positions) and the prospect of settlement;
6. The estimated length of trial; and
7. Any other information that the parties believe may assist the Court in
advancing the case to settlement or trial, including, but not limited to, a
description of any dispositive issue or novel issue raised by the case.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that, by September 2, 2016, the parties jointly submit to the
Court a proposed case management plan and scheduling order. A template for the order is
available at U.S. District Court • Southern District of New York. The status letter and the proposed case
management plan should be filed electronically on ECF, consistent with Section 13 .1 of the
Court's Electronic Case Filing (ECF) Rules & Instructions, available at
http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/ecf/ecf_rules _ 080113 .pdf.
Plaintiff is ordered to serve Defendants with a copy of this order and to file an affidavit
on ECF certifying that such service has been effectuated.
SO ORDERED.
Dated: June 30, 2016
New York, New York
Ronnie Abrams
United States District Judge
**********

The court is ordering convicted child molester Jeffrey Epstein to answer together with Trump; not as separate defendants. The case stems from a woman coming forward alleging Trump tied her up and raped her as a 13 year old on a couple occasions at Epstein's Manhattan apartment during the Summer of 1994. She says he threatened to do harm to her and her family members if she ever told. So the statute of limitations may not apply; and certainly when it comes to rape of a child, and intimidation, the court relaxes those requirements more often than not. There are apparently witnesses to the alleged events.

For anyone interested in the progression of the case, or to appear, the date and time and location is given above. I'd like to see a copy of the letter that Trump and Epstein submit. I think that the plaintiff also has to submit a letter anonymously (because of the allegations of threats) via her attorney. Not exactly sure on that one.

Trump & Epstein's defense/settlement outline letter was supposed to be filed last Friday, September 2nd. So a copy of that should be on record already. Again, if anyone is near that courthouse, would be nice to see a copy posted here. Thanks in advance.

Sil, how many times must we reiterate to you that the Supreme Court....Oh wait, this isn't one of your convoluted gay marriage threads.

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Excuse me.
 
I'm pretty sure Trump isn't going to take this to the US Supreme Court. But who knows, if he appoints his sister to replace Ginsburg?..
 
I'm pretty sure Trump isn't going to take this to the US Supreme Court. But who knows, if he appoints his sister to replace Ginsburg?..
Maybe YOU should.
Let's see...
We have the Liberty to
Ship jobs overseas
Replace Americans with foreigners and
have no borders

But...
No Abortion
No Same-Sex Marriage

So where does Liberty start and end?
 
So where does Liberty start and end?
Not at sex with a 13 year old. Nobody has liberty to do that in the US...especially not an old man who allegedly did this and allegedly threatened the girl and her family if she opened her mouth.
 
Jesus please forgive this nation if we make the mistake of electing this monster. The fact that there's even a case in front of a court = the republican party fucked up nominating Trump.
 
Jesus please forgive this nation if we make the mistake of electing this monster. The fact that there's even a case in front of a court = the republican party fucked up nominating Trump.
Yes. And they knew this case was coming along when they nominated him. If the charges look serious (and hey, let's face it, his co-defendent is a convicted child molestor) and the case looks like it has merit, he will DESTROY the GOP with what's left of the woman vote; particularly young women and men. But older women also. And a rich white guy raping a 13 year old; providing the allegations are true, after he just got done berating Mexicans for being "murderers and rapists"?..

That's why I want to see where this is going with their defense outline "letter" they turned in last week. If this judge announces to the world "this case has merit"; the GOP is TOAST. It will be a stinking albatross around the neck of every GOP hopeful in this race.
 
Sep 15: Doe vs. Donald J. Trump: Parties to appear in court 4 status conference (GD 16) - Democratic Underground
************
DONALD J. TRUMP and JEFFREY E. EPSTEIN,

Defendants.

RONNIE ABRAMS, United States District Judge:

USDC-SDNY
DOC#:
DATE FILED: 6/30/2016
No. 16-CV-4642 (RA)
ORDER AND NOTICE OF INITIAL CONFERENCE

It is hereby:

ORDERED that counsel for all parties appear for an initial status conference on

September 9, 2016 at 3:15 p.m. in Courtroom 1506 of the U.S. District
Court for the Southern District of New York, 40 Foley Square, New York,
New York.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that, by September 2, 2016, the parties
jointly submit to the

Court a proposed case management plan and scheduling order."

All parties must also submit a letter to the court:

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that, by September 2, 2016, the parties submit a
joint letter, not to exceed five (5) pages, providing the following
information in separate paragraphs:

1.A brief description of the nature of the action and the principal defenses


thereto;

2. A brief explanation of why jurisdiction and venue lie in this Court. If any
party is a corporation, the letter shall state both the place of incorporation
and the principal place of business. If any party is a partnership, limited
partnership, limited liability company or trust, the letter shall state the
citizenship of each of the entity's members, shareholders, partners and/or
trustees;
3. A brief description of all contemplated and/or outstanding motions and
how such motions may affect scheduling in this matter;
4. A brief description of any discovery that has already taken place, and/or
that which will be necessary for the parties to engage in meaningful
settlement negotiations;

5. A brief description of prior settlement discussions (without disclosing the
parties' offers or settlement positions) and the prospect of settlement;
6. The estimated length of trial; and
7. Any other information that the parties believe may assist the Court in
advancing the case to settlement or trial, including, but not limited to, a
description of any dispositive issue or novel issue raised by the case.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that, by September 2, 2016, the parties jointly submit to the
Court a proposed case management plan and scheduling order. A template for the order is
available at U.S. District Court • Southern District of New York. The status letter and the proposed case
management plan should be filed electronically on ECF, consistent with Section 13 .1 of the
Court's Electronic Case Filing (ECF) Rules & Instructions, available at
http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/ecf/ecf_rules _ 080113 .pdf.
Plaintiff is ordered to serve Defendants with a copy of this order and to file an affidavit
on ECF certifying that such service has been effectuated.
SO ORDERED.
Dated: June 30, 2016
New York, New York
Ronnie Abrams
United States District Judge
**********

The court is ordering convicted child molester Jeffrey Epstein to answer together with Trump; not as separate defendants. The case stems from a woman coming forward alleging Trump tied her up and raped her as a 13 year old on a couple occasions at Epstein's Manhattan apartment during the Summer of 1994. She says he threatened to do harm to her and her family members if she ever told. So the statute of limitations may not apply; and certainly when it comes to rape of a child, and intimidation, the court relaxes those requirements more often than not. There are apparently witnesses to the alleged events.

For anyone interested in the progression of the case, or to appear, the date and time and location is given above. I'd like to see a copy of the letter that Trump and Epstein submit. I think that the plaintiff also has to submit a letter anonymously (because of the allegations of threats) via her attorney. Not exactly sure on that one.

Trump & Epstein's defense/settlement outline letter was supposed to be filed last Friday, September 2nd. So a copy of that should be on record already. Again, if anyone is near that courthouse, would be nice to see a copy posted here. Thanks in advance.
"An initial pretrial conference is presently scheduled for September 9, 2016 in this action. Plaintiff, however, has not yet filed affidavits of service confirming that Defendants have been served with copies of the summons and complaint. In order to allow Plaintiff the full amount of time authorized by Rule 4(m) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure to serve Defendants and to allow Defendants the full amount of time authorized by Rule 12(a) to respond to the complaint in advance of the initial pretrial conference, the conference shall be adjourned until October 14, 2016 at 10:00 a.m. Initial Conference set for 10/14/2016 at 10:00 AM before Judge Ronnie Abrams."

Pretrial Conference for Donald Trump Rape Lawsuit Delayed

This just another one of Dirty Hillary's dirty tricks. After filing the plaintiff has done nothing to move the case along because it never had any purpose but to give low lifes like you something to screech about.
 
"An initial pretrial conference is presently scheduled for September 9, 2016 in this action. Plaintiff, however, has not yet filed affidavits of service confirming that Defendants have been served with copies of the summons and complaint. In order to allow Plaintiff the full amount of time authorized by Rule 4(m) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure to serve Defendants and to allow Defendants the full amount of time authorized by Rule 12(a) to respond to the complaint in advance of the initial pretrial conference, the conference shall be adjourned until October 14, 2016 at 10:00 a.m. Initial Conference set for 10/14/2016 at 10:00 AM before Judge Ronnie Abrams." Pretrial Conference for Donald Trump Rape Lawsuit Delayed ,,,,,

Thanks for the update. Did you find out whether or not Trump & Epstein filed the mutual defense outline letter last Friday Sept. 2nd with the court?

Hmm..when did they meet to challenge this Sept 9 date? I'd still like to see reporters walk in the courtroom on the 9th just to be sure. Calendars can get really "accidentally" funked up when the court doesn't want a big fuss. Interesting that your link takes us to "Rumor Has it" website. Rumor only maybe indeed. I'd still send someone on the 9th to cover any accidental convening.

OK, wait, the first one is the one you're talking about. What was scheduled for August 25th? What motion hearing was that? Did the court make it's own motion on August 25th without prompting from Trump/Epstein's attorneys? It's weird, the court acknowledges that the two defendants Epstein and Trump were served electronically.

From your link:
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service Summons Issued Tue 3:00 PM
ELECTRONIC SUMMONS ISSUED as to Jeffrey E. Epstein. (dgo)
5
service Summons Issued Tue 2:54 PM
ELECTRONIC SUMMONS ISSUED as to Donald J. Trump. (dgo)
 
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"An initial pretrial conference is presently scheduled for September 9, 2016 in this action. Plaintiff, however, has not yet filed affidavits of service confirming that Defendants have been served with copies of the summons and complaint. In order to allow Plaintiff the full amount of time authorized by Rule 4(m) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure to serve Defendants and to allow Defendants the full amount of time authorized by Rule 12(a) to respond to the complaint in advance of the initial pretrial conference, the conference shall be adjourned until October 14, 2016 at 10:00 a.m. Initial Conference set for 10/14/2016 at 10:00 AM before Judge Ronnie Abrams." Pretrial Conference for Donald Trump Rape Lawsuit Delayed ,,,,,

Thanks for the update. Did you find out whether or not Trump & Epstein filed the mutual defense outline letter last Friday Sept. 2nd with the court?

Hmm..when did they meet to challenge this Sept 9 date? I'd still like to see reporters walk in the courtroom on the 9th just to be sure. Calendars can get really "accidentally" funked up when the court doesn't want a big fuss. The article your link takes readers to has embedded a link where it cites the court docket and it claims this link tells how the case was bumped out to October. I saw no such language at all on that link. Instead it was part of a docket for June earlier this year.
If you had understood the post, you would not ask such a stupid question.
 
If you had understood the post, you would not ask such a stupid question.

Who made the motion August 25th? The Court or Trump/Epstein's attorneys? What was the name of the motion? Do you have a copy of it and the Order setting out the date for the conference to October?
 
If you had understood the post, you would not ask such a stupid question.

Who made the motion August 25th? The Court or Trump/Epstein's attorneys? What was the name of the motion? Do you have a copy of it and the Order setting out the date for the conference to October?
Why would you compound one stupid question with more stupid questions. It is a civil suit and the plaintiff never served the defendant with a summons or a complaint, so there is no basis for the suit to go forward. The October date will also pass without anything happening unless the plaintiff serves Trump with the summons and complaint, but there are penalties for filing frivolous lawsuits plus the possibility of a counter suit by Trump for damages resulting from filing a frivolous lawsuit.

It is likely some one told her she was being played for fool by the Clinton campaign.
 
If you had understood the post, you would not ask such a stupid question.

Who made the motion August 25th? The Court or Trump/Epstein's attorneys? What was the name of the motion? Do you have a copy of it and the Order setting out the date for the conference to October?
Why would you compound one stupid question with more stupid questions. It is a civil suit and the plaintiff never served the defendant with a summons or a complaint, so there is no basis for the suit to go forward. The October date will also pass without anything happening unless the plaintiff serves Trump with the summons and complaint, but there are penalties for filing frivolous lawsuits plus the possibility of a counter suit by Trump for damages resulting from filing a frivolous lawsuit.

It is likely some one told her she was being played for fool by the Clinton campaign.
That's not a stupid question. SOMEONE made a motion on August 25th to delay the date of the pretrial conference until October. Who was it? The plaintiff? Trump/Epstein? Or the court?
 
If you had understood the post, you would not ask such a stupid question.

Who made the motion August 25th? The Court or Trump/Epstein's attorneys? What was the name of the motion? Do you have a copy of it and the Order setting out the date for the conference to October?
Why would you compound one stupid question with more stupid questions. It is a civil suit and the plaintiff never served the defendant with a summons or a complaint, so there is no basis for the suit to go forward. The October date will also pass without anything happening unless the plaintiff serves Trump with the summons and complaint, but there are penalties for filing frivolous lawsuits plus the possibility of a counter suit by Trump for damages resulting from filing a frivolous lawsuit.

It is likely some one told her she was being played for fool by the Clinton campaign.
That's not a stupid question. SOMEONE made a motion on August 25th to delay the date of the pretrial conference until October. Who was it? The plaintiff? Trump/Epstein? Or the court?
It was a stupid question. The plaintiff didn't fulfill her obligations so the court gave her more time to serve Trump with summons and the complaint. Until she does that, nothing can proceed.
 
That's not a stupid question. SOMEONE made a motion on August 25th to delay the date of the pretrial conference until October. Who was it? The plaintiff? Trump/Epstein? Or the court?
It was a stupid question. The plaintiff didn't fulfill her obligations so the court gave her more time to serve Trump with summons and the complaint. Until she does that, nothing can proceed.

Yes but...WHO MOVED THE COURT TO DO THAT? The court itself in its own motion? The plaintiff? Or the defendants? ANSWER THE QUESTION if you can.. Judges don't just wake up in the morning and scribble down new orders at their bedside table. They have formal motions to do so. WHO MADE THE MOTION?
 
That's not a stupid question. SOMEONE made a motion on August 25th to delay the date of the pretrial conference until October. Who was it? The plaintiff? Trump/Epstein? Or the court?
It was a stupid question. The plaintiff didn't fulfill her obligations so the court gave her more time to serve Trump with summons and the complaint. Until she does that, nothing can proceed.

Yes but...WHO MOVED THE COURT TO DO THAT? The court itself in its own motion? The plaintiff? Or the defendants? ANSWER THE QUESTION if you can.. Judges don't just wake up in the morning and scribble down new orders at their bedside table. They have formal motions to do so. WHO MADE THE MOTION?
There was no motion because there was no case because the plaintiff never fulfilled her obligations. Who advised the judge that the case couldn't proceed because the plaintiff hadn't fulfilled her legal obligations? Probably the court clerk since that's part of his or her job.
 

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