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And once again note folks, that libs will ALWAYS have excuses to not do a damn thing about illegals.
Liberals truly want this country swamped with third world leechers.
Trump seems to think that all you have to do is to pick Juan up off the street and drive him to Nuevo Laredo. He seems to have forgotten details, like the constitutionally required trial, and conviction, first (for which we would most likely have to pay Juan's attorney).
the constitutionally required trial, and conviction, first
Where does it say we need to have a trial and conviction to deport an illegal?
It is up to the illegals to prove or disprove their right to be here. If not, they are gone. They have the right to be heard.............have the right to a lawyer BUT THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR IT................and will see a judge to voice their case...............If they don't have the documentation............Then Adios Amigos.................If Juan isn't a citizen.....he is not covered by the Constitution. ......Trump seems to think that all you have to do is to pick Juan up off the street and drive him to Nuevo Laredo. He seems to have forgotten details, like the constitutionally required trial, and conviction, first (for which we would most likely have to pay Juan's attorney).
One you have to prove he is not an American Citizen and then you have a real problem. Foreign people are governed by the Constitution:
The reason for this is because of what the Framers of the Constitution believed. They did not believe that the "Constitution granted rights" but that those rights already existed as part of the natural order of who we are and that it merely "enshrined them" and prevented the government from encroaching on them. You have those rights regardless of what the US government says. The Constitution isn't about the citizens, it's about the government and framing the function of the government. Thus, as a human, you have those rights naturally by merely existing, the Constitution is there to prevent the government from stepping on those inalienable rights.
Trump seems to think that all you have to do is to pick Juan up off the street and drive him to Nuevo Laredo. He seems to have forgotten details, like the constitutionally required trial, and conviction, first (for which we would most likely have to pay Juan's attorney).
the constitutionally required trial, and conviction, first
Where does it say we need to have a trial and conviction to deport an illegal?
You have to be joking, Todd. How the hell do you determine if someone is an illegal without a trial? Even your average tea party guy can understand that....
Absolutely...This would probably be one of the worst war crimes on American soil, round up 11 million people, break in homes grab children and parents and shove them into holding centers till they throw them into a country not prepared for that many people.
I'm sure when parents resist being forced from their homes and their children are manhandled by police, they won't hesitate to just shoot them in the street, the true cost of this is not measured in dollars but in human lives and dangerous precendents.
I thought Republicans were the ones who wanted to avoid police state actions. We really want a witchhunt of 11 million on American soil?
It is up to the illegals to prove or disprove their right to be here. If not, they are gone. They have the right to be heard.............have the right to a lawyer BUT THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR IT................and will see a judge to voice their case...............If they don't have the documentation............Then Adios Amigos.................If Juan isn't a citizen.....he is not covered by the Constitution. ......Trump seems to think that all you have to do is to pick Juan up off the street and drive him to Nuevo Laredo. He seems to have forgotten details, like the constitutionally required trial, and conviction, first (for which we would most likely have to pay Juan's attorney).
One you have to prove he is not an American Citizen and then you have a real problem. Foreign people are governed by the Constitution:
The reason for this is because of what the Framers of the Constitution believed. They did not believe that the "Constitution granted rights" but that those rights already existed as part of the natural order of who we are and that it merely "enshrined them" and prevented the government from encroaching on them. You have those rights regardless of what the US government says. The Constitution isn't about the citizens, it's about the government and framing the function of the government. Thus, as a human, you have those rights naturally by merely existing, the Constitution is there to prevent the government from stepping on those inalienable rights.
Sounds like a business opportunity. Selling bumper stickers. LOLMy new bumper sticker will say, Deport Trump...
The solution is AmTrak. Load 'em up, cross the border at Juarez and drop them about half way to Mexico City.The freaking ICE deputy director thinks it costs $12,500 to deport a single illegal alien? Maybe he is mixed up on the cost of keeping the criminal in the U.S. on the dole for a year. No wonder we are going broke. You could take a 1st class vacation to Hawaii for 12 grand.
That's what I say, when I see Romney and Palin stickers...Sounds like a business opportunity. Selling bumper stickers. LOLMy new bumper sticker will say, Deport Trump...
That way people can see your car and say look at that dumb ass.
Hire some Dems to get them the documentation then. They are experts on voter fraud.It is up to the illegals to prove or disprove their right to be here. If not, they are gone. They have the right to be heard.............have the right to a lawyer BUT THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR IT................and will see a judge to voice their case...............If they don't have the documentation............Then Adios Amigos.................If Juan isn't a citizen.....he is not covered by the Constitution. ......Trump seems to think that all you have to do is to pick Juan up off the street and drive him to Nuevo Laredo. He seems to have forgotten details, like the constitutionally required trial, and conviction, first (for which we would most likely have to pay Juan's attorney).
One you have to prove he is not an American Citizen and then you have a real problem. Foreign people are governed by the Constitution:
The reason for this is because of what the Framers of the Constitution believed. They did not believe that the "Constitution granted rights" but that those rights already existed as part of the natural order of who we are and that it merely "enshrined them" and prevented the government from encroaching on them. You have those rights regardless of what the US government says. The Constitution isn't about the citizens, it's about the government and framing the function of the government. Thus, as a human, you have those rights naturally by merely existing, the Constitution is there to prevent the government from stepping on those inalienable rights.
And exactly how would you do that?
Remember, its the idiot RWs who are against driver's licenses for illegals even though it would be a way to track them.
Really, I read that from the ICE site on procedures for deportation. Against the law of the land when getting the data from the law of the land...................LOLIt is up to the illegals to prove or disprove their right to be here. If not, they are gone. They have the right to be heard.............have the right to a lawyer BUT THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR IT................and will see a judge to voice their case...............If they don't have the documentation............Then Adios Amigos.................If Juan isn't a citizen.....he is not covered by the Constitution. ......Trump seems to think that all you have to do is to pick Juan up off the street and drive him to Nuevo Laredo. He seems to have forgotten details, like the constitutionally required trial, and conviction, first (for which we would most likely have to pay Juan's attorney).
One you have to prove he is not an American Citizen and then you have a real problem. Foreign people are governed by the Constitution:
The reason for this is because of what the Framers of the Constitution believed. They did not believe that the "Constitution granted rights" but that those rights already existed as part of the natural order of who we are and that it merely "enshrined them" and prevented the government from encroaching on them. You have those rights regardless of what the US government says. The Constitution isn't about the citizens, it's about the government and framing the function of the government. Thus, as a human, you have those rights naturally by merely existing, the Constitution is there to prevent the government from stepping on those inalienable rights.
Totally unconstitutional, and against the law of the land.
A new nationwide study on the fiscal implications of illegal immigration concludes that millions of undocumented immigrants are paying billions of dollar in taxes into state and local coffers, and that substantially more would be generated if President Obama prevails in imposing a new executive order protecting many of those workers from deportation.Trump's plan sounds like a bargain. ...
Because we spend more than that on illegal's medical, housing, food stamps, and incarceration, each year. .....
We give them 142 million in aid. Explore ForeignAssistance.gov In case math is not your strong suit, 137 billion is considerably more than a 142 million.So all we have to do is not give Mexico aid money for one year and it's paid for.
It is up to the illegals to prove or disprove their right to be here. If not, they are gone. They have the right to be heard.............have the right to a lawyer BUT THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR IT................and will see a judge to voice their case...............If they don't have the documentation............Then Adios Amigos.................If Juan isn't a citizen.....he is not covered by the Constitution. ......Trump seems to think that all you have to do is to pick Juan up off the street and drive him to Nuevo Laredo. He seems to have forgotten details, like the constitutionally required trial, and conviction, first (for which we would most likely have to pay Juan's attorney).
One you have to prove he is not an American Citizen and then you have a real problem. Foreign people are governed by the Constitution:
The reason for this is because of what the Framers of the Constitution believed. They did not believe that the "Constitution granted rights" but that those rights already existed as part of the natural order of who we are and that it merely "enshrined them" and prevented the government from encroaching on them. You have those rights regardless of what the US government says. The Constitution isn't about the citizens, it's about the government and framing the function of the government. Thus, as a human, you have those rights naturally by merely existing, the Constitution is there to prevent the government from stepping on those inalienable rights.
Totally unconstitutional, and against the law of the land.
You just start it, publicize the hell out of it and drop them with just the basic needs and most of the rest will gather up their possessions and leave on their own.Not to mention the time it would take to adjudicate all 12 million cases - it could take decades.NOt including the fence, that Mexico does not have the money to pay for, and would not pay for, even if they did, especially since a large % of illegals are from other countries.
"Back in 2011, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) deputy director Kumar Kibble said it costs $12,500 to deport an individual undocumented immigrant.
So when you multiply that cost for the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S., that comes to $137.5 billion."
Donald Trump s Deportation Plan Would Cost 100-200 Billion - NBC News
Whatever.............I looked at those articles as well. They are counting the salaries and budgets of ICE PERIOD..................Operating Budget.............which fluctuates a little each year...........If none got deported next year they'd still have a similar budget...................which means that OH NO...........IT COSTS EVEN MORE.ICE Fiscal Year FY 2012 Enacted Budget ICE
Riddle me this.................They used the yearly budget of 5 Billion, which is actually 5.82 Billion a year. Divided by the number of deprotations....................and gave you the cost......................Does that equal the cost if more or less are deported........................
Show me how in detail the actual costs of deportation please.............We could pack and ship a lot cheaper than that.
It is in the article posted. The $5 billion dollar budget managed to deport $330,000 in one year. Do the math.
Let's say we deport double the number...........for the same budget................Holy shit man it's half price deportation man................
Get a clue..................It's manipulation by the Gov't. What they have become good at.
NOt including the fence, that Mexico does not have the money to pay for, and would not pay for, even if they did, especially since a large % of illegals are from other countries.
"Back in 2011, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) deputy director Kumar Kibble said it costs $12,500 to deport an individual undocumented immigrant.
So when you multiply that cost for the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S., that comes to $137.5 billion."
Donald Trump s Deportation Plan Would Cost 100-200 Billion - NBC News
