Trump's Piss In A Cup Scam

[midcan5]

Blind followers need more than proof, they need personal growth, that often takes time and for some is never. We still have skin heads, some believe 911 was a conspiracy, some believe in devils and witches, etc etc etc. When the human mind seeks reasons, it too often only has itself to rely on. Easy answers have appeal. Knowledge is so flimsy a thing, the child often remains. Even if Trump is shown clearly, there are always reasons that can be given, made up. Many want to believe and belief is a hard place for change.

The intellectual character of conspiracy theorists —...

"The gullible rarely believe they are gullible and the closed-minded don’t believe they are closed-minded."
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[Muhammed]

How much was the average person forced to pay for this?

Zero. Nobody was forced to pay for the test or vitamins.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

How much was the average person forced to pay for this?

Zero. Nobody was forced to pay for the test or vitamins.

then I fail to see where this is an issue.

 

[jasonnfree]

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Many high ranking Republicans have called Trump a fraud, a fake, a phony, and...

...you've undoubtedly heard about the Trump University scam, but scams abound in Trump's business dealings. Below is just one of Trump's many scams.


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Donald Trump Selling a Naturopathic Product
The company’s flagship product was a customized multi-vitamin called the PrivaTest, which supposedly relied upon a mail-in urine test to create a custom vitamin formula (about $140 for the test; $70 per month for the vitamins; $100 to retest every 6 months). In fact, Dr. Stephen Barrett began warning about Ideal Health’s PrivaTest in 2003. Because Quackwatch maintains the best description and criticism of the PrivaTest, please go there for more information. Bottom line: urine testing for customized vitamins is never a good value.

As early as 2007, Ideal Health employed a naturopath named David Macallan, ND. From Ideal Health’s homepage, one could find “Dr. Mac’s blog” and his descriptions about how Ideal Health’s products worked and the purported scientific evidence. One of his blog entries is titled “Stephen Barrett and Quackwatch – Biased and Unworthy of Credibility,” which I recommend as an entertaining rebuttal to Dr. Barrett by a naturopath with vested financial interest in a pseudoscientific product.


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Ideal Health's PrivaTest
Stephen Barrett, M.D.

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Neithe[r] the test nor the nutrients offer good value. Urine tests do not provide a legitimate basis for recommending that people take dietary supplements. Moreover, even if they could, the nutrients in Ideal Health's so-called customized formulas can be obtained far more inexpensively in retail stores.

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Trump's also the only candidate who has run businesses. Make a few hundred omellets, you'll break a few eggs. He's the only candidate not subject to serving big money. Anyway, what's the alternative? Feel the berne, or feel the slime and corruption with the clintons.

 

[Skylar]

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Many high ranking Republicans have called Trump a fraud, a fake, a phony, and...

...you've undoubtedly heard about the Trump University scam, but scams abound in Trump's business dealings. Below is just one of Trump's many scams.


<snip>

Donald Trump Selling a Naturopathic Product
The company’s flagship product was a customized multi-vitamin called the PrivaTest, which supposedly relied upon a mail-in urine test to create a custom vitamin formula (about $140 for the test; $70 per month for the vitamins; $100 to retest every 6 months). In fact, Dr. Stephen Barrett began warning about Ideal Health’s PrivaTest in 2003. Because Quackwatch maintains the best description and criticism of the PrivaTest, please go there for more information. Bottom line: urine testing for customized vitamins is never a good value.

As early as 2007, Ideal Health employed a naturopath named David Macallan, ND. From Ideal Health’s homepage, one could find “Dr. Mac’s blog” and his descriptions about how Ideal Health’s products worked and the purported scientific evidence. One of his blog entries is titled “Stephen Barrett and Quackwatch – Biased and Unworthy of Credibility,” which I recommend as an entertaining rebuttal to Dr. Barrett by a naturopath with vested financial interest in a pseudoscientific product.


<snip>

Ideal Health's PrivaTest
Stephen Barrett, M.D.

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Neithe[r] the test nor the nutrients offer good value. Urine tests do not provide a legitimate basis for recommending that people take dietary supplements. Moreover, even if they could, the nutrients in Ideal Health's so-called customized formulas can be obtained far more inexpensively in retail stores.

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The next thing you're gonna tell me is that Trump didn't pick the 'best of the best' for his University. Or that Trump Mortgage wasn't a good bet.

 

[Skylar]

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Many high ranking Republicans have called Trump a fraud, a fake, a phony, and...

...you've undoubtedly heard about the Trump University scam, but scams abound in Trump's business dealings. Below is just one of Trump's many scams.


<snip>

Donald Trump Selling a Naturopathic Product
The company’s flagship product was a customized multi-vitamin called the PrivaTest, which supposedly relied upon a mail-in urine test to create a custom vitamin formula (about $140 for the test; $70 per month for the vitamins; $100 to retest every 6 months). In fact, Dr. Stephen Barrett began warning about Ideal Health’s PrivaTest in 2003. Because Quackwatch maintains the best description and criticism of the PrivaTest, please go there for more information. Bottom line: urine testing for customized vitamins is never a good value.

As early as 2007, Ideal Health employed a naturopath named David Macallan, ND. From Ideal Health’s homepage, one could find “Dr. Mac’s blog” and his descriptions about how Ideal Health’s products worked and the purported scientific evidence. One of his blog entries is titled “Stephen Barrett and Quackwatch – Biased and Unworthy of Credibility,” which I recommend as an entertaining rebuttal to Dr. Barrett by a naturopath with vested financial interest in a pseudoscientific product.


<snip>

Ideal Health's PrivaTest
Stephen Barrett, M.D.

<snip>

Neithe[r] the test nor the nutrients offer good value. Urine tests do not provide a legitimate basis for recommending that people take dietary supplements. Moreover, even if they could, the nutrients in Ideal Health's so-called customized formulas can be obtained far more inexpensively in retail stores.

<snip>


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Trump's also the only candidate who has run businesses. Make a few hundred omellets, you'll break a few eggs. He's the only candidate not subject to serving big money. Anyway, what's the alternative? Feel the berne, or feel the slime and corruption with the clintons.

Like Trump Airlines.......Trump Vodka......Trump Mortgage......Trump Magazine.....Trump University.

'Into the ground' seems to be his favorite way to run businesses.

 

[Muhammed]

How much was the average person forced to pay for this?

Zero. Nobody was forced to pay for the test or vitamins.

then I fail to see where this is an issue.

It isn't an issue.

Apparently the OP is so ignorant regarding nutrition that he cannot comprehend the fact that vitamin deficiencies are harmful to your health.

 

[Agit8r]

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Many high ranking Republicans have called Trump a fraud, a fake, a phony, and...

...you've undoubtedly heard about the Trump University scam, but scams abound in Trump's business dealings. Below is just one of Trump's many scams.


<snip>

Donald Trump Selling a Naturopathic Product
The company’s flagship product was a customized multi-vitamin called the PrivaTest, which supposedly relied upon a mail-in urine test to create a custom vitamin formula (about $140 for the test; $70 per month for the vitamins; $100 to retest every 6 months). In fact, Dr. Stephen Barrett began warning about Ideal Health’s PrivaTest in 2003. Because Quackwatch maintains the best description and criticism of the PrivaTest, please go there for more information. Bottom line: urine testing for customized vitamins is never a good value.

As early as 2007, Ideal Health employed a naturopath named David Macallan, ND. From Ideal Health’s homepage, one could find “Dr. Mac’s blog” and his descriptions about how Ideal Health’s products worked and the purported scientific evidence. One of his blog entries is titled “Stephen Barrett and Quackwatch – Biased and Unworthy of Credibility,” which I recommend as an entertaining rebuttal to Dr. Barrett by a naturopath with vested financial interest in a pseudoscientific product.


<snip>

Ideal Health's PrivaTest
Stephen Barrett, M.D.

<snip>

Neithe[r] the test nor the nutrients offer good value. Urine tests do not provide a legitimate basis for recommending that people take dietary supplements. Moreover, even if they could, the nutrients in Ideal Health's so-called customized formulas can be obtained far more inexpensively in retail stores.

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For a moment there, I thought Trump's fanboys actually were buying his peepee.

 

[Siete]

43 ran an oil business out of business IN TEXAS no less ...

killing Trump Steak AND Trump Vodka in New York took some real talent too ..

 

[jasonnfree]

Blind followers need more than proof, they need personal growth, that often takes time and for some is never. We still have skin heads, some believe 911 was a conspiracy, some believe in devils and witches, etc etc etc. When the human mind seeks reasons, it too often only has itself to rely on. Easy answers have appeal. Knowledge is so flimsy a thing, the child often remains. Even if Trump is shown clearly, there are always reasons that can be given, made up. Many want to believe and belief is a hard place for change.

The intellectual character of conspiracy theorists —...

"The gullible rarely believe they are gullible and the closed-minded don’t believe they are closed-minded."
.

Blind followers need more than proof, they need personal growth, that often takes time and for some is never. We still have skin heads, some believe 911 was a conspiracy, some believe in devils and witches, etc etc etc. When the human mind seeks reasons, it too often only has itself to rely on. Easy answers have appeal. Knowledge is so flimsy a thing, the child often remains. Even if Trump is shown clearly, there are always reasons that can be given, made up. Many want to believe and belief is a hard place for change.

The intellectual character of conspiracy theorists —...

"The gullible rarely believe they are gullible and the closed-minded don’t believe they are closed-minded."
.

I'm not gullible or close minded, I just don't think it's in America's best interest to allow millions of the world's poorest and neediest to come here by whatever means, and be given paths to citizenship. If we give eleven million forgiveness and citizenship, then what about the next eleven or fifteen or twenty? Where does it stop? Now about the Syrian refugees. Are any of them going to be located to neighborhoods where the pro refugee politicians live? Hell no.

 

[jasonnfree]

43 ran an oil business out of business IN TEXAS no less ...

killing Trump Steak AND Trump Vodka in New York took some real talent too ..

When was 43 a candidate? I was talking present candidates. Also, 43 wasn't successful in business, unless you think the texas stadium was a legitimate business deal.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

If Trump becomes the nominee, I'll support him, but get ready for things like this to pop up over and over.
With all the dealings Trump has had over the years, the Dimocrats will be trotting stories out over and over of people who feel they've been burned by Trump.

Just go in to this knowing the potential of what is out there. The Dimocrats are not going to show their hand unless he's the nominee, so don't think all is well just because there hasn't been any big bombshell yet.

 

[Iceweasel]

yawn. After all the snake oil obama has been selling? Big deal.

Vitamins are not snake oil.

obama sells vitamins?

 

[Iceweasel]

yawn. After all the snake oil obama has been selling? Big deal.

Please state the name of one product Obama has either co-ventured or endorsed, and please also provide any law suits brought against him....ever. Oh, and don't leave out his business bankruptcies, either.

How about bankrupting the United States of America? Remember all the Bush driving us into the ditch bullshit? obbie went into the lake. Hillary breaks the law and gets people killed, a big yawn for lefties.

You totally missed the point, no surprise.

 

[Papageorgio]

Real estate brokers and agents are the real snake oil salesmen, just one notch above used car dealers.

And used car dealers are several notches above politicians. Do you have a point?

 

[Iceweasel]

Like Trump Airlines.......Trump Vodka......Trump Mortgage......Trump Magazine.....Trump University.

'Into the ground' seems to be his favorite way to run businesses.

You are worth more than Trump? Color me skeptical.

 

[Iceweasel]

If Trump becomes the nominee, I'll support him, but get ready for things like this to pop up over and over.
With all the dealings Trump has had over the years, the Dimocrats will be trotting stories out over and over of people who feel they've been burned by Trump.

Just go in to this knowing the potential of what is out there. The Dimocrats are not going to show their hand unless he's the nominee, so don't think all is well just because there hasn't been any big bombshell yet.

The Dims media outlets will be portraying Hillary as the steadfast loyal wife who stuck with her man no matter what while Donald Trump was pushing senior citizens off a cliff.

 

[Star]

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Many high ranking Republicans have called Trump a fraud, a fake, a phony, and...

...you've undoubtedly heard about the Trump University scam, but scams abound in Trump's business dealings. Below is just one of Trump's many scams.


<snip>

Donald Trump Selling a Naturopathic Product
The company’s flagship product was a customized multi-vitamin called the PrivaTest, which supposedly relied upon a mail-in urine test to create a custom vitamin formula (about $140 for the test; $70 per month for the vitamins; $100 to retest every 6 months). In fact, Dr. Stephen Barrett began warning about Ideal Health’s PrivaTest in 2003. Because Quackwatch maintains the best description and criticism of the PrivaTest, please go there for more information. Bottom line: urine testing for customized vitamins is never a good value.

As early as 2007, Ideal Health employed a naturopath named David Macallan, ND. From Ideal Health’s homepage, one could find “Dr. Mac’s blog” and his descriptions about how Ideal Health’s products worked and the purported scientific evidence. One of his blog entries is titled “Stephen Barrett and Quackwatch – Biased and Unworthy of Credibility,” which I recommend as an entertaining rebuttal to Dr. Barrett by a naturopath with vested financial interest in a pseudoscientific product.


<snip>

Ideal Health's PrivaTest
Stephen Barrett, M.D.

<snip>

Neithe[r] the test nor the nutrients offer good value. Urine tests do not provide a legitimate basis for recommending that people take dietary supplements. Moreover, even if they could, the nutrients in Ideal Health's so-called customized formulas can be obtained far more inexpensively in retail stores.

<snip>


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Many high ranking Republicans are heavily invested in by the corporate's that desire to keep people enslaved to their gmo and other shit. So that is no surprise.

If that urine test is fake surely our [cough] excellent FDA would have already taken it to task.

If it concerns you, you might want to look it up...
...but selling vitamins isn't D. Trump's deal, D. Trump's deal is raking in the dough, even when it means D. Trump's pyramid schemes rip-off the most economically vulnerable-----vulnerable to hoping that D. Trump's scam would be a way out of the economic mess that Reaganomics has foisted upon the economically impotent.

Donald Trump’s Naturopathic Weight Loss Pyramid Scheme

August 25, 2015
by Taylor Hermes

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Another Donald Trump Pyramid Scheme
In 2009, Donald Trump started The Trump Network as a multi-level marketing (MLM) company to sell nutritional supplements and weight loss products in addition to home business marketing packages designed to recruit affiliates and earn commission off their sales. The business was essentially rebranded by purchasing Ideal Health, Inc., a Massachusetts-based company that already sold health products through a vast pyramid structure.

The most effective way to profit as a member of The Trump Network was not to sell individual products, but to get others to sign up as members to sell more products and recruit more members. One could make lots of money by not selling any material products at all, but only by recruiting sellers and earning commissions off their sales.

The Federal Trade Commission has come down hard on pyramid schemes, but has run into trouble with ones that actually sell products within a pyramid-referral structure. There are differences between an MLM company and a pyramid scheme, but the distinction can be subtle and seems to depend on the proportion of revenue that comes from recruitment versus real product sales. From learning about The Trump Network, I think it is fair to consider it less of a MLM and more of a pyramid scheme.

Let’s take a look at how the Trump Network concept was advertised. On the former Trump Network website in 2009, there was a letter posted by Donald Trump himself who pitches economic opportunity for families who were suffering financially from the Great Recession:

The Trump Network™ Has a Solution

At no time in recent history has our economy been in the state that it is today.

The economic meltdown created by Wall Street greed, financial industry ineptitude and the mortgage crisis has hijacked the dreams of millions of people. We need a new plan to achieve financial independence.

My experience in real estate has taught me that the greatest opportunities emerge when economic times are at their worst. That's why, after the real estate crash of the 90's, I came back stronger than ever.

The first thing I learned is that when times are tough
you need to hedge your bets. You need to diversify.

The good news is: The Trump Network can provide you with a solution to help you and your family create a more secure future. Diversifying is a way to protect your income so that you can continue to do what you know and love, and still make money.
The second thing I learned is that the economy goes in cycles.
When some industries fail, others take off.

For example, when the real estate industry was challenged in the early 90's, the network marketing industry exploded. During hard times, people with an entrepreneurial spirit flock to network marketing opportunities.

That's why I have put my name and expertise into supporting this opportunity. The team at The Trump Network have phenomenal products, provide easy to follow training and have a great support network available to all their members.

The Trump Network offers you a financial solution
that you can believe in.

The Trump Network offers products that help make people healthier, an opportunity for you to make as much money as you want, based on your own efforts, and the support of a great company.

Join me in this worthwhile endeavor.

Trump positions himself as a man to dole out opportunity. He pitches directly to suffering families by casting the venture in terms of success, money, and security. Potential customers are told to join him and prosper by selling health products through “network marketing,” which is a less loaded term than “pyramid scheme.”

To be sure, let’s take a look at what The Trump Network had written on its webpage for how the compensation plan works:

There is no limit to the amount of rewards you can earn. With The Trump Network, you’re positioned for success. You earn money from the products that the people in your network purchase for personal use as well as ones they sell to their customers. In addition, you have the opportunity to receive $100 to $225 commission for each 1st level FastStart Way purchase. Plus, you can also earn Infinity Bonuses from $10 to $125 for each FastStart Way purchase in your network to unlimited levels.

Imagine if you were a Platinum and you enrolled 1 person the FastStart Way, you would earn $170. However, it doesn’t stop there. If that person enrolls someone the FastStart Way, you would earn a $70 Platinum Infinity Bonus, and if that person did the same, you would earn another $70. This continues to unlimited levels. It works the same way when you become a Diamond and Executive Diamond.

Can you imagine 10, 100, or even 1,000 people on your team living healthier, fuller lives and duplicating your efforts with The Trump Network? You could be rewarded monthly on their product purchases. This is leveraging your time and your efforts efficiently for long-term residual income. And you can feel even better because you know you are also working to build strong bodies, develop bright minds, and generate free spirits at the same time.
It’s a win/win strategy for everyone.

This herald may sound great to an economically desperate family member, yet by definition, a pyramid scheme cannot offer success to everyone in the affiliate network. The people at the top always win, and those at the bottom always lose.

It was unlikely anyone signing up for The Trump Network would be able to drum up a new, wide reach, as Trump already sat at the peak of the pyramid inherited from Ideal Health. Thus, Trump’s aims seemed to be solely to broaden his base to enhance the vertical flow of cash to himself without any real opportunity for new recruits. Is this the type of person some Americans are considering to be the next President?

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Donald Trump was an Alt-med Profiteer, Unfit to be President
Donald Trump’s foray into the naturopathic weight loss world of David Macallan came to an end in 2012 when he sold The Trump Network to Bioceutica, LLC. Trump appears to have been concerned about the liability of being associated with a MLM (a.k.a. pyramid scheme), which sold bogus products. As far as I can tell, Bioceutica is still operating and continues to sell the PrivaTest and the Silhouette Solution.

I find it telling that Trump ended up selling suspect health products, one of which was designed by a naturopathic doctor, to financially desperate families. Donald Trump is a voracious profiteer.

If Donald Trump became president, the American people can count on a lot of hyperbolic talk with very little intelligent leadership. At least one prominent naturopath might have his ear. Who knows what might happen. There’s always money to be made selling snake-oil.

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[Stephanie]

don't buy the stuff you feel it's a scam. or just sit up all night searching the bowels of the internet for stupid crap on Trump

 

[WheelieAddict]

Trump is one of the best salesmen ever and the weak minded are lining up left and right to buy his bullshit.

"Believe it" "the best" "tremendous" "one of my friends called me and said Donald you are so right"


Suckers