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[USArmyRetired]

Wisconsin DMV Tells Boy His Bank Account Doesn



A video has surfaced of a boy trying to get one of the new Wisconsin Voter IDs that were ushered in by the signing of new a voting law in the state. Shot by the boy's mother with the clear intention of indicting the process, the video shows the pair going from station to station at the DMV, asking all of the right questions as to why there are so many hurdles to acquiring this constitutionally guaranteed ID card.



It is a shame the video is not edited more briskly -- at almost ten minutes in length its viral spread will certainly be thwarted -- but it nonetheless lends itself to breath-holding drama because of this fact.


The first station clerk determines that the boy's bank account does not display enough "activity" to constitute a proof of address form. This is not only absurd ("does he use it?") but a clear privacy infringement as is the follow up question of whether or not the account is of the "checking" or "savings" variety. "Oh, it's just a savings," the clerk remarks. The mother throws a subtle jab, countering that "he's unemployed."

So in Wisconsin you have to have a Bank Account in order to vote?

 

[Jarhead]

Having a checking account or a savings account with little or no activity is deemed as NOT an indication of residency...
I do not see the problem here.

 

[Truthmatters]

The problem is that he is a citizen and has a right to vote.

Your party creating laws that keep Americans from voting so they can win elections is evil

 

[peach174]

If Dems hadn't cheated to begin with they would not have needed to make these laws.
And one bank statement is not proof of identity. Doesn't the kid have a birth certificate?

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Why does a young man old enough to vote not have a driver's license to prove his residency?

It can't be that the family can't afford to get him one, as the mother says at the beginning of the film that he has a passport, and those cost more than a driver's license.

 

[Jarhead]

The problem is that he is a citizen and has a right to vote.

Your party creating laws that keep Americans from voting so they can win elections is evil

Wrong.

The problem is as our country's population grows and the problem with undocumented immigrants expands, the possibility of non citizens taking advantage of a privelage afforded ONLY American Citizens becomes more likely.

So Wisconsin deemed it best to ensure one is not only a citizen, but a resident of the state as well.

A bank account showing little or no activity is not enough evidence that one is a resident. To the contrary, I can open a bank account in all 50 states citing the address of a Motel 6 as my place of residence in every state.....as you do not need to PROVE you live at the address given to the bank when you open an account.

However, no one would want to give a phoney address of an account with activity as their statements would go to unknown people...opening the door to identity theft.

Thus why they say we will accept an account with activity...but not an account without activity.

There is no issue here TM.

None.

 

[Jarhead]

Why does a young man old enough to vote not have a driver's license to prove his residency?

It can't be that the family can't afford to get him one, as the mother says at the beginning of the film that he has a passport, and those cost more than a driver's license.

Not all people drive.
That is not the issue.
One needs to show a bank account with activity to establish it as a place of residence. It is a valid issue....TM is trying to make something of it but that is becuase she does not understand the mechanics.

 

[Truthmatters]

Making hurdles for people to jump to vote is Anti American

 

[Conservative]

The problem is that he is a citizen and has a right to vote.

Your party creating laws that keep Americans from voting so they can win elections is evil

prove it.

 

[Jarhead]

Making hurdles for people to jump to vote is Anti American

you see it as a hurdle to prove you are a US citizen and a resident of the state?

Do you not see voting as a PRIVELEGE afforded to you becuase you are a citizen?

Do you feel it a hurdle to have to show your ticket to the usher at a ballpark?

TM.....nice try, but showing you have the right to vote should please you as an American Citizen.

If you have the time to get to the polls to vote you most certainly have the time to open your wallet to prove you have the privelege to vote.

 

[Jarhead]

The problem is that he is a citizen and has a right to vote.

Your party creating laws that keep Americans from voting so they can win elections is evil

Exactly how do you know that?

 

[Conservative]

The problem is that he is a citizen and has a right to vote.

Your party creating laws that keep Americans from voting so they can win elections is evil

Exactly how do you know that?

She ASSumes it.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

I just wonder if this was just a "gotcha" video, a democrat version of O'Keefe trying to create a controversy. Why was the mother carrying a video camera in a way that would capture what was going on above the counter? Why did the film start after they were already involved in the process, instead of when they walked in? Was there something at the start that she didn't want shown?

I'll bet the son had a DL, but didn't show it so they could get this film.

 

[Conservative]

I just wonder if this was just a "gotcha" video, a democrat version of O'Keefe trying to create a controversy. Why was the mother carrying a video camera in a way that would capture what was going on above the counter? Why did the film start after they were already involved in the process, instead of when they walked in? Was there something at the start that she didn't want shown?

I'll bet the son had a DL, but didn't show it so they could get this film.

A Democrat would NEVER stoop so low.

(I think I threw up a little in my mouth when I said that)

 

[Jarhead]

Once again she tries to stir the pot...has her BS thrown back at her with facts and straight forward questions...and she runs.

TM...your "the gop and conservatives are idiots" crap is just that....crap.

 

[Truthmatters]

why do you people pretend keeping Americans from voting is good for our country?

 

[Jarhead]

why do you people pretend keeping Americans from voting is good for our country?

why are you competley ignoring the truth of the situation.

We are not trying to keep Americans from voting.

We are trying to keep NON americans from voting.

Why do you spin it otherwise?

 

[Truthmatters]

You have no idea whats going on.

This is a pattern by the republican party that stretches decades

 

[Rat in the Hat]

why do you people pretend keeping Americans from voting is good for our country?

Why do you pretend letting the dead, felons in prison, people using vacant lots as addresses, and illegal aliens vote is good for our country?

 

[zzzz]

Any Wisconsin resident who does not hold a valid drivers license from Wisconsin or another jurisdiction may request a photo ID. There is no age limit to apply for an ID card. When applying, it will be necessary to provide:

Proof of name and date of birth, for example, a certified U.S. birth certificate, valid passport or certificate of naturalization.
Proof of identity (usually a document with a signature or photo).
Proof of Wisconsin residency.
Proof of U.S. citizenship, legal permanent resident status, legal conditional resident status or legal temporary visitor status.
Your social security number.

Residency documentation:

Acceptable documents for proof of Wisconsin residency

When applying for an original (first) Wisconsin driver license or identification card, you must provide proof of Wisconsin residency if you are 18 years of age or older.

Documents presented as proof must be original. Photocopies are not acceptable.

Documents listing a post office box or commercial receiving agency as the mailing address are not acceptable.

The department will decline to accept any document presented if it does not provide conclusive proof of residency. Additional verification may be requested.

The following documents are acceptable proof of Wisconsin residency when they include your name and current Wisconsin residence street address:

Employee photo identification card issued by your current employer, containing your employer's name and address. Your employer's telephone number may be required for verification.
Pay check or stub or earning statement with your name and Wisconsin address, and your employer's name and address, issued within the last 90 days. Your employer's telephone number may be required for verification.
A utility bill for water, gas, electricity or landline telephone service issued within the last 90 days. Cable or similar bundles of services that include landline telephone service is included in this category. Electronic copies are acceptable.
An account statement from a Wisconsin bank/financial institution issued within the last 90 days. This includes savings, checking or money market accounts held in banks or credit unions. Electronic copies are acceptable.
Certified school record or transcript that identifies you by name, shows your current address and is issued within the last 90 days for the most recent school period.
Mortgage documents for a residential property located in Wisconsin.
Your current valid homeowner, renter or motor vehicle insurance policy dated within one year of application.
Government-issued correspondence or product issued within the last 90 days from a federal, state, county or city agency.
Department of Corrections documentation: Letters from probation/parole agents on letterhead issued within the last 90 days.
Your college enrollment documentation or Form 2019, Certificate of Eligibility for Exchange Visitor (J-1) Status with your current Wisconsin address.
Documents with a photograph of a person will be accepted only when the person is readily recognizable from the photograph. The department will decline to accept any document presented if it has reason to suspect the authenticity of the document. Questionable documents may require additional review.

Obtaining an ID card - Wisconsin Department of Transportation