Two Victims' families

If people want to forgive other people, they can't be stopped, but if I were in such a position, I would not go as far as to saying out loud to anyone that I forgive them because in my opinion, doing such a thing is like giving the person permission to continue doing whatever it is that they did wrong.

God bless you always!!!

Holly
 
And there was NO LOGICAL REASON Wilson couldn't have moved down the block, kept Brown in sight and waited for backup. But he decided to play Wyatt Earp...
Let's add policing to what you dont know.
Wilson's job was to apprehend and arrest. That's what he was doing. He coulnd't let Brown just run off.

Brown was not running asshole. Wilson could have moved off and waited for backup. Brown was not on the FBI most wanted list you moron.
Wrong
Wrong
and
Irrelevant.

Wilson was engaged with a violent out of control 6ft plus 250lb black man who had just committed a robbery. When said black man charged him what was he supposed to do?

BULLSHIT! Wilson had no knowledge Brown was part of shoplifting. Brown's crime was walking in the street

Obviously a capital offense...talk about Stalin-like...
Wrong.
Brown was walking in the street, which is a crime. Wilson told him to get on the sidewalk. Brown reacted strongly and Wilson then recognized that he was likely the shoplifter. Things deteriorated from there, with Brown grabbing for Wilson's gun and assaulting him.
Grand Jury Volume 5

Do you understand American law procedures or do you always operate under Stalin rule of law, and mimic the show trial statement of the policia?

katyn-movie-still_thumb.jpg


The SOLE job of a Grand Jury is to decide if there is probable cause. The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.

In a REAL trial in America, Wilson's testimony would be subject to CROSS-EXAMINATION...as would all other testimonies. It IS how this should have been handled...in AMERICA comrade...
 
Let's add policing to what you dont know.
Wilson's job was to apprehend and arrest. That's what he was doing. He coulnd't let Brown just run off.

Brown was not running asshole. Wilson could have moved off and waited for backup. Brown was not on the FBI most wanted list you moron.
Wrong
Wrong
and
Irrelevant.

Wilson was engaged with a violent out of control 6ft plus 250lb black man who had just committed a robbery. When said black man charged him what was he supposed to do?

BULLSHIT! Wilson had no knowledge Brown was part of shoplifting. Brown's crime was walking in the street

Obviously a capital offense...talk about Stalin-like...
Wrong.
Brown was walking in the street, which is a crime. Wilson told him to get on the sidewalk. Brown reacted strongly and Wilson then recognized that he was likely the shoplifter. Things deteriorated from there, with Brown grabbing for Wilson's gun and assaulting him.
Grand Jury Volume 5

Do you understand American law procedures or do you always operate under Stalin rule of law, and mimic the show trial statement of the policia?

katyn-movie-still_thumb.jpg


The SOLE job of a Grand Jury is to decide if there is probable cause. The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.

In a REAL trial in America, Wilson's testimony would be subject to CROSS-EXAMINATION...as would all other testimonies. It IS how this should have been handled...in AMERICA comrade...
Obviously not. Wilson was completely exhonerated.
Some of the thugs who testified falsely however are finding themselves under indictment for perjury.
Star Witness in Mike Brown Case Likely to Be Charged With Perjury MrConservative.com Mr. Conservative is the top website for news political cartoons breaking news republican election news conservative facts and commentary on political elections
Sucks to be you.
 
Brown was not running asshole. Wilson could have moved off and waited for backup. Brown was not on the FBI most wanted list you moron.
Wrong
Wrong
and
Irrelevant.

Wilson was engaged with a violent out of control 6ft plus 250lb black man who had just committed a robbery. When said black man charged him what was he supposed to do?

BULLSHIT! Wilson had no knowledge Brown was part of shoplifting. Brown's crime was walking in the street

Obviously a capital offense...talk about Stalin-like...
Wrong.
Brown was walking in the street, which is a crime. Wilson told him to get on the sidewalk. Brown reacted strongly and Wilson then recognized that he was likely the shoplifter. Things deteriorated from there, with Brown grabbing for Wilson's gun and assaulting him.
Grand Jury Volume 5

Do you understand American law procedures or do you always operate under Stalin rule of law, and mimic the show trial statement of the policia?

katyn-movie-still_thumb.jpg


The SOLE job of a Grand Jury is to decide if there is probable cause. The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.

In a REAL trial in America, Wilson's testimony would be subject to CROSS-EXAMINATION...as would all other testimonies. It IS how this should have been handled...in AMERICA comrade...
Obviously not. Wilson was completely exhonerated.
Some of the thugs who testified falsely however are finding themselves under indictment for perjury.
Star Witness in Mike Brown Case Likely to Be Charged With Perjury MrConservative.com Mr. Conservative is the top website for news political cartoons breaking news republican election news conservative facts and commentary on political elections
Sucks to be you.

Are you a RETARD? Is there an adult in your trailer park who can decipher for you?

You post a piece of partisan op-ed with a false title as an argument?

From YOUR hit piece:

"As of now, there are no plans to charge Johnson with anything"

"Do you think this punk deserves to be arrested? Sound off in the comments below!"
 
Brown was not running asshole. Wilson could have moved off and waited for backup. Brown was not on the FBI most wanted list you moron.
Wrong
Wrong
and
Irrelevant.

Wilson was engaged with a violent out of control 6ft plus 250lb black man who had just committed a robbery. When said black man charged him what was he supposed to do?

BULLSHIT! Wilson had no knowledge Brown was part of shoplifting. Brown's crime was walking in the street

Obviously a capital offense...talk about Stalin-like...
Wrong.
Brown was walking in the street, which is a crime. Wilson told him to get on the sidewalk. Brown reacted strongly and Wilson then recognized that he was likely the shoplifter. Things deteriorated from there, with Brown grabbing for Wilson's gun and assaulting him.
Grand Jury Volume 5

Do you understand American law procedures or do you always operate under Stalin rule of law, and mimic the show trial statement of the policia?

katyn-movie-still_thumb.jpg


The SOLE job of a Grand Jury is to decide if there is probable cause. The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.

In a REAL trial in America, Wilson's testimony would be subject to CROSS-EXAMINATION...as would all other testimonies. It IS how this should have been handled...in AMERICA comrade...
Obviously not. Wilson was completely exhonerated.
Some of the thugs who testified falsely however are finding themselves under indictment for perjury.
Star Witness in Mike Brown Case Likely to Be Charged With Perjury MrConservative.com Mr. Conservative is the top website for news political cartoons breaking news republican election news conservative facts and commentary on political elections
Sucks to be you.

Please explain to me why you right wing turds call liberals Stalinists and NAZI's, when the form of government you right wing turds endorse is EXACTLY what Stalin and Hitler practiced and the exact opposite of what liberals endorse?

You right wing turds have ZERO understanding of justice and how to safeguard justice.

As John Adams said, we are a nation of laws, not men. But you have decided the opposite. You have given a man holding power unbridled trust and no check of that power. It is EXACTLY what totalitarian governments do.



“Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak; and that it is doing God’s service when it is violating all his laws.”
John Adams

“Because power corrupts, society’s demands for moral authority and character increase as the importance of the position increases.”
John Adams

There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.
John Adams

“It is more important that innocence be protected than it is that guilt be punished, for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world that they cannot all be punished. But if innocence itself is brought to the bar and condemned, perhaps to die, then the citizen will say, “whether I do good or whether I do evil is immaterial, for innocence itself is no protection,” and if such an idea as that were to take hold in the mind of the citizen that would be the end of security whatsoever.”
John Adams
 
Let's add policing to what you dont know.
Wilson's job was to apprehend and arrest. That's what he was doing. He coulnd't let Brown just run off.

Brown was not running asshole. Wilson could have moved off and waited for backup. Brown was not on the FBI most wanted list you moron.
Wrong
Wrong
and
Irrelevant.

Wilson was engaged with a violent out of control 6ft plus 250lb black man who had just committed a robbery. When said black man charged him what was he supposed to do?

BULLSHIT! Wilson had no knowledge Brown was part of shoplifting. Brown's crime was walking in the street

Obviously a capital offense...talk about Stalin-like...
Wrong.
Brown was walking in the street, which is a crime. Wilson told him to get on the sidewalk. Brown reacted strongly and Wilson then recognized that he was likely the shoplifter. Things deteriorated from there, with Brown grabbing for Wilson's gun and assaulting him.
Grand Jury Volume 5

Do you understand American law procedures or do you always operate under Stalin rule of law, and mimic the show trial statement of the policia?

katyn-movie-still_thumb.jpg


The SOLE job of a Grand Jury is to decide if there is probable cause. The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.

In a REAL trial in America, Wilson's testimony would be subject to CROSS-EXAMINATION...as would all other testimonies. It IS how this should have been handled...in AMERICA comrade...

In order for their to be a REAL trial there has to be a REAL indictment by the Grand jury. There wasn't, end of story.
 
Wrong
Wrong
and
Irrelevant.

Wilson was engaged with a violent out of control 6ft plus 250lb black man who had just committed a robbery. When said black man charged him what was he supposed to do?

BULLSHIT! Wilson had no knowledge Brown was part of shoplifting. Brown's crime was walking in the street

Obviously a capital offense...talk about Stalin-like...
Wrong.
Brown was walking in the street, which is a crime. Wilson told him to get on the sidewalk. Brown reacted strongly and Wilson then recognized that he was likely the shoplifter. Things deteriorated from there, with Brown grabbing for Wilson's gun and assaulting him.
Grand Jury Volume 5

Do you understand American law procedures or do you always operate under Stalin rule of law, and mimic the show trial statement of the policia?

katyn-movie-still_thumb.jpg


The SOLE job of a Grand Jury is to decide if there is probable cause. The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.

In a REAL trial in America, Wilson's testimony would be subject to CROSS-EXAMINATION...as would all other testimonies. It IS how this should have been handled...in AMERICA comrade...
Obviously not. Wilson was completely exhonerated.
Some of the thugs who testified falsely however are finding themselves under indictment for perjury.
Star Witness in Mike Brown Case Likely to Be Charged With Perjury MrConservative.com Mr. Conservative is the top website for news political cartoons breaking news republican election news conservative facts and commentary on political elections
Sucks to be you.

Please explain to me why you right wing turds call liberals Stalinists and NAZI's, when the form of government you right wing turds endorse is EXACTLY what Stalin and Hitler practiced and the exact opposite of what liberals endorse?

You right wing turds have ZERO understanding of justice and how to safeguard justice.

As John Adams said, we are a nation of laws, not men. But you have decided the opposite. You have given a man holding power unbridled trust and no check of that power. It is EXACTLY what totalitarian governments do.



“Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak; and that it is doing God’s service when it is violating all his laws.”
John Adams

“Because power corrupts, society’s demands for moral authority and character increase as the importance of the position increases.”
John Adams

There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.
John Adams

“It is more important that innocence be protected than it is that guilt be punished, for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world that they cannot all be punished. But if innocence itself is brought to the bar and condemned, perhaps to die, then the citizen will say, “whether I do good or whether I do evil is immaterial, for innocence itself is no protection,” and if such an idea as that were to take hold in the mind of the citizen that would be the end of security whatsoever.”
John Adams
I honestly feel sorry for your three working brain cells that you tax them so much with your posts.
Today's liberals are really Progressives. They share the same philosophy as fascists. They want state control of every aspect of citizens' lives so they can improve them. They want state control of every facet of the economy so they can make it risk-free. The similarities between what Mussolini believed and what Bernie Sanders believes are striking.
Wilson was never indicted because he did nothing wrong. He was subject to who knows how many investigations. The political pressure from the White House on down must have been enormous to indict him. But they couldn't. BEcause the evidence was clear, after 3 autopsies on the poor Mr Brown. Brown was an out of control thug posing a danger to a police officer. Officer responded appropriately and neutralized the threat.
 
Let's add policing to what you dont know.
Wilson's job was to apprehend and arrest. That's what he was doing. He coulnd't let Brown just run off.

Brown was not running asshole. Wilson could have moved off and waited for backup. Brown was not on the FBI most wanted list you moron.
Wrong
Wrong
and
Irrelevant.

Wilson was engaged with a violent out of control 6ft plus 250lb black man who had just committed a robbery. When said black man charged him what was he supposed to do?

BULLSHIT! Wilson had no knowledge Brown was part of shoplifting. Brown's crime was walking in the street

Obviously a capital offense...talk about Stalin-like...
Wrong.
Brown was walking in the street, which is a crime. Wilson told him to get on the sidewalk. Brown reacted strongly and Wilson then recognized that he was likely the shoplifter. Things deteriorated from there, with Brown grabbing for Wilson's gun and assaulting him.
Grand Jury Volume 5

Do you understand American law procedures or do you always operate under Stalin rule of law, and mimic the show trial statement of the policia?

katyn-movie-still_thumb.jpg


The SOLE job of a Grand Jury is to decide if there is probable cause. The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.

In a REAL trial in America, Wilson's testimony would be subject to CROSS-EXAMINATION...as would all other testimonies. It IS how this should have been handled...in AMERICA comrade...

There appears to be an inconsistency in several of your statements. In your Permalink #37, you challenged someone who said Officer Wilson had to take action to Keep Brown from getting away. You stated, “Brown was not running asshole.” Now you state “The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.”

It really doesn't matter because the evidence conclusively shows that Brown could not have been running away when he was shot. The forensic evidence shows that all the shots entered Brown's body from the front, none from the back. Since it is impossible to shoot a man in the front while his back is to you, it is self-evident that Michael Brown was not running away from Wilson. The blood trail also proves beyond a doubt that Brown was advancing towards the officer, not running away The blood trail began some distance away from where the body was found proving that even after being hit Brown kept coming towards Wilson.

You are correct in noting the differences between a grand jury and a trail jury. Grand jury indictments are generally easy to get because the prosecutor usually presents only the evidence he wants the jurors to hear. He does not have to present exculpatory evidence and he is even allowed to introduce evidence that would be inadmissible in a trail (such as hearsay testimony). In this particular case, the prosecutor opted to present evidence both for and against the defendant. This he had the right to do and I believe he made the right decision. It's all about evidence and ethics. We know that those who said Wilson shot Brown as he was running away are liars. The prosecutor knows it, too. Would you prefer he call only known liars to give perjured testimony just to send a case to trail? There is one other important consideration: The prosecutor had to know that there was no way in hell that Wilson would be found guilty in a criminal trial. It was better to let the grand jury end the charade rather than get a phony indictment and set the stage for more violence when the inevitable acquittal came down.

PS: In Permalink #40 The Rabbi gave you a link to the grand jury evidence. I don't think you've read it and you should.
 
Brown was not running asshole. Wilson could have moved off and waited for backup. Brown was not on the FBI most wanted list you moron.
Wrong
Wrong
and
Irrelevant.

Wilson was engaged with a violent out of control 6ft plus 250lb black man who had just committed a robbery. When said black man charged him what was he supposed to do?

BULLSHIT! Wilson had no knowledge Brown was part of shoplifting. Brown's crime was walking in the street

Obviously a capital offense...talk about Stalin-like...
Wrong.
Brown was walking in the street, which is a crime. Wilson told him to get on the sidewalk. Brown reacted strongly and Wilson then recognized that he was likely the shoplifter. Things deteriorated from there, with Brown grabbing for Wilson's gun and assaulting him.
Grand Jury Volume 5

Do you understand American law procedures or do you always operate under Stalin rule of law, and mimic the show trial statement of the policia?

katyn-movie-still_thumb.jpg


The SOLE job of a Grand Jury is to decide if there is probable cause. The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.

In a REAL trial in America, Wilson's testimony would be subject to CROSS-EXAMINATION...as would all other testimonies. It IS how this should have been handled...in AMERICA comrade...

There appears to be an inconsistency in several of your statements. In your Permalink #37, you challenged someone who said Officer Wilson had to take action to Keep Brown from getting away. You stated, “Brown was not running asshole.” Now you state “The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.”

It really doesn't matter because the evidence conclusively shows that Brown could not have been running away when he was shot. The forensic evidence shows that all the shots entered Brown's body from the front, none from the back. Since it is impossible to shoot a man in the front while his back is to you, it is self-evident that Michael Brown was not running away from Wilson. The blood trail also proves beyond a doubt that Brown was advancing towards the officer, not running away The blood trail began some distance away from where the body was found proving that even after being hit Brown kept coming towards Wilson.

You are correct in noting the differences between a grand jury and a trail jury. Grand jury indictments are generally easy to get because the prosecutor usually presents only the evidence he wants the jurors to hear. He does not have to present exculpatory evidence and he is even allowed to introduce evidence that would be inadmissible in a trail (such as hearsay testimony). In this particular case, the prosecutor opted to present evidence both for and against the defendant. This he had the right to do and I believe he made the right decision. It's all about evidence and ethics. We know that those who said Wilson shot Brown as he was running away are liars. The prosecutor knows it, too. Would you prefer he call only known liars to give perjured testimony just to send a case to trail? There is one other important consideration: The prosecutor had to know that there was no way in hell that Wilson would be found guilty in a criminal trial. It was better to let the grand jury end the charade rather than get a phony indictment and set the stage for more violence when the inevitable acquittal came down.

PS: In Permalink #40 The Rabbi gave you a link to the grand jury evidence. I don't think you've read it and you should.

There is no inconsistency. You are just confused.

Brown was not running away when Wilson first confronted the two boys. Wilson created a confrontational situation when Wilson unprofessionally said "get the fuck on the sidewalk". If Wilson believed Brown was a hostile suspect, he should have waited for backup and not tried to confront Brown alone. With backup, NO shots would have been needed to apprehend the suspect.

Once Wilson began firing at Brown THAT is when Brown ran away. The fact that no bullets entered from the rear is not proof Wilson didn't fire while Brown was running away.

15 witnesses say Wilson fired while Brown was running away.
16 witnesses said Michael Brown put his hands up while being gunned down.
7 witnesses said Michael Brown was kneeling while still being fired upon.
6 witnesses said Wilson continued firing once Brown was on the ground.

There was probable cause to elevate the case to a jury trial, complete with cross examination. But the prosecutor UNethically decided that Officer Wilson was innocent all by himself and UNethically abused the Grand Jury process.

If there had been a trial, regardless of the outcome, it would have defused public outrage and protests. Most people trust a public trial to issue justice. Instead of a jury, a government agent decided another government agent was innocent. His story went unquestioned... It is right out of Stalin's modus operandi.

The fact that you folks on the right have ZERO understanding of what justice is and what it isn't is mind boggling.
 
BULLSHIT! Wilson had no knowledge Brown was part of shoplifting. Brown's crime was walking in the street

Obviously a capital offense...talk about Stalin-like...
Wrong.
Brown was walking in the street, which is a crime. Wilson told him to get on the sidewalk. Brown reacted strongly and Wilson then recognized that he was likely the shoplifter. Things deteriorated from there, with Brown grabbing for Wilson's gun and assaulting him.
Grand Jury Volume 5

Do you understand American law procedures or do you always operate under Stalin rule of law, and mimic the show trial statement of the policia?

katyn-movie-still_thumb.jpg


The SOLE job of a Grand Jury is to decide if there is probable cause. The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.

In a REAL trial in America, Wilson's testimony would be subject to CROSS-EXAMINATION...as would all other testimonies. It IS how this should have been handled...in AMERICA comrade...
Obviously not. Wilson was completely exhonerated.
Some of the thugs who testified falsely however are finding themselves under indictment for perjury.
Star Witness in Mike Brown Case Likely to Be Charged With Perjury MrConservative.com Mr. Conservative is the top website for news political cartoons breaking news republican election news conservative facts and commentary on political elections
Sucks to be you.

Please explain to me why you right wing turds call liberals Stalinists and NAZI's, when the form of government you right wing turds endorse is EXACTLY what Stalin and Hitler practiced and the exact opposite of what liberals endorse?

You right wing turds have ZERO understanding of justice and how to safeguard justice.

As John Adams said, we are a nation of laws, not men. But you have decided the opposite. You have given a man holding power unbridled trust and no check of that power. It is EXACTLY what totalitarian governments do.



“Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak; and that it is doing God’s service when it is violating all his laws.”
John Adams

“Because power corrupts, society’s demands for moral authority and character increase as the importance of the position increases.”
John Adams

There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.
John Adams

“It is more important that innocence be protected than it is that guilt be punished, for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world that they cannot all be punished. But if innocence itself is brought to the bar and condemned, perhaps to die, then the citizen will say, “whether I do good or whether I do evil is immaterial, for innocence itself is no protection,” and if such an idea as that were to take hold in the mind of the citizen that would be the end of security whatsoever.”
John Adams
I honestly feel sorry for your three working brain cells that you tax them so much with your posts.
Today's liberals are really Progressives. They share the same philosophy as fascists. They want state control of every aspect of citizens' lives so they can improve them. They want state control of every facet of the economy so they can make it risk-free. The similarities between what Mussolini believed and what Bernie Sanders believes are striking.
Wilson was never indicted because he did nothing wrong. He was subject to who knows how many investigations. The political pressure from the White House on down must have been enormous to indict him. But they couldn't. BEcause the evidence was clear, after 3 autopsies on the poor Mr Brown. Brown was an out of control thug posing a danger to a police officer. Officer responded appropriately and neutralized the threat.

Yet YOU are the one who is defending the government without question...
 
Wrong
Wrong
and
Irrelevant.

Wilson was engaged with a violent out of control 6ft plus 250lb black man who had just committed a robbery. When said black man charged him what was he supposed to do?

BULLSHIT! Wilson had no knowledge Brown was part of shoplifting. Brown's crime was walking in the street

Obviously a capital offense...talk about Stalin-like...
Wrong.
Brown was walking in the street, which is a crime. Wilson told him to get on the sidewalk. Brown reacted strongly and Wilson then recognized that he was likely the shoplifter. Things deteriorated from there, with Brown grabbing for Wilson's gun and assaulting him.
Grand Jury Volume 5

Do you understand American law procedures or do you always operate under Stalin rule of law, and mimic the show trial statement of the policia?

katyn-movie-still_thumb.jpg


The SOLE job of a Grand Jury is to decide if there is probable cause. The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.

In a REAL trial in America, Wilson's testimony would be subject to CROSS-EXAMINATION...as would all other testimonies. It IS how this should have been handled...in AMERICA comrade...

There appears to be an inconsistency in several of your statements. In your Permalink #37, you challenged someone who said Officer Wilson had to take action to Keep Brown from getting away. You stated, “Brown was not running asshole.” Now you state “The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.”

It really doesn't matter because the evidence conclusively shows that Brown could not have been running away when he was shot. The forensic evidence shows that all the shots entered Brown's body from the front, none from the back. Since it is impossible to shoot a man in the front while his back is to you, it is self-evident that Michael Brown was not running away from Wilson. The blood trail also proves beyond a doubt that Brown was advancing towards the officer, not running away The blood trail began some distance away from where the body was found proving that even after being hit Brown kept coming towards Wilson.

You are correct in noting the differences between a grand jury and a trail jury. Grand jury indictments are generally easy to get because the prosecutor usually presents only the evidence he wants the jurors to hear. He does not have to present exculpatory evidence and he is even allowed to introduce evidence that would be inadmissible in a trail (such as hearsay testimony). In this particular case, the prosecutor opted to present evidence both for and against the defendant. This he had the right to do and I believe he made the right decision. It's all about evidence and ethics. We know that those who said Wilson shot Brown as he was running away are liars. The prosecutor knows it, too. Would you prefer he call only known liars to give perjured testimony just to send a case to trail? There is one other important consideration: The prosecutor had to know that there was no way in hell that Wilson would be found guilty in a criminal trial. It was better to let the grand jury end the charade rather than get a phony indictment and set the stage for more violence when the inevitable acquittal came down.

PS: In Permalink #40 The Rabbi gave you a link to the grand jury evidence. I don't think you've read it and you should.

There is no inconsistency. You are just confused.

Brown was not running away when Wilson first confronted the two boys. Wilson created a confrontational situation when Wilson unprofessionally said "get the fuck on the sidewalk". If Wilson believed Brown was a hostile suspect, he should have waited for backup and not tried to confront Brown alone. With backup, NO shots would have been needed to apprehend the suspect.

Once Wilson began firing at Brown THAT is when Brown ran away. The fact that no bullets entered from the rear is not proof Wilson didn't fire while Brown was running away.

15 witnesses say Wilson fired while Brown was running away.
16 witnesses said Michael Brown put his hands up while being gunned down.
7 witnesses said Michael Brown was kneeling while still being fired upon.
6 witnesses said Wilson continued firing once Brown was on the ground.

There was probable cause to elevate the case to a jury trial, complete with cross examination. But the prosecutor UNethically decided that Officer Wilson was innocent all by himself and UNethically abused the Grand Jury process.

If there had been a trial, regardless of the outcome, it would have defused public outrage and protests. Most people trust a public trial to issue justice. Instead of a jury, a government agent decided another government agent was innocent. His story went unquestioned... It is right out of Stalin's modus operandi.

The fact that you folks on the right have ZERO understanding of what justice is and what it isn't is mind boggling.

You said, “Once Wilson began firing at Brown THAT is when Brown ran away. The fact that no bullets entered from the rear is not proof Wilson didn't fire while Brown was running away.” But if Brown was running away when the shooting started, what made him decide to turn around and go back towards Wilson while shots were still being fired. The scenario you propose doesn't make sense.

Here is what happened according to the grand jury testimony of Officer Wilson: There were shots fired from inside the police car when Brown and Wilson were engaged in a struggle. The shots frightened Brown who did run a short distance with officer Wilson in pursuit (no shots were fired during the chase). When Brown stopped running so did Wilson. Brown then turned and faced Wilson. Wilson ordered him to get on the ground; However, Brown charged towards Wilson instead and that is when Brown was shot multiple times. At no time did Officer Wilson fire at Brown as he was running away. However, even if he did, at that point Brown would have been considered a dangerous felon and Wilson had the right to use deadly force to prevent his escape. When A dangerous felon is running away a policeman has the right to put a bullet in his back to stop him. You can debate whether or not Brown was in fact a dangerous felon. I have a JD (Juris Doctorate and I say he was.

You said, “If there had been a trial, regardless of the outcome, it would have defused public outrage and protests. Most people trust a public trial to issue justice. ..” Apparently you are the only one in the whole damn country who never heard of George Zimmerman. Do you remember what happened when he was acquitted?

One last thing: The prosecutor presented witnesses that gave testimony favorable to Wilson and those who testified against him (the link below summarizes the testimony of the witnesses). There is no evidence that the grand jury proceedings were unfair in any way. It is the jurors who decided not to indict, not some agent of the government as you suggest. The jurors weighed the testimony of the various witnesses against the forensic evidence to arrive at their decision. You must think the jurors were stupid and easily flim-flammed by some unscrupulous slick-talking prosecutor.

Ferguson Grand Jury Chart of What the Witnesses Say They Saw The New Republic

It was apparent that some witnesses on both sides were less than truthful, some eventually admitting on the stand that their entire testimony was fabricated. You actually need to read the entire transcript, including the forensic evidence; then and only then will you be in the same position the jurors were.

OK, you have the last word. I have wasted all the time I am going to on this matter.
 
What a difference. The families of the victims of Dylann Roof come forward and forgive the killer, to his face.


Michael Brown's stepfather shouts "burn this bitch down."


The first is an example of the best of black culture, grounded in authentic Christian values. It took a tremendous amount to come forward and say what they did. What a model for others!
The second is the worst of black culture, grounded in thug values and lacking any grace.
It doesnt get any starker than this.

Here is another contrast. The NYPD officers turning their back on their Mayor at the funeral of two officers murdered because he rightly discussed the problem of some officers abusive conduct with the families of the actual victims who forgave the actual murderer.
 
What a difference. The families of the victims of Dylann Roof come forward and forgive the killer, to his face.


Michael Brown's stepfather shouts "burn this bitch down."


The first is an example of the best of black culture, grounded in authentic Christian values. It took a tremendous amount to come forward and say what they did. What a model for others!
The second is the worst of black culture, grounded in thug values and lacking any grace.
It doesnt get any starker than this.

The killer of the nine is in jail, charged with a crime and will certainly die in prison. The killing of Michael Brown never spent a minute in jail, was not charged and is walking around free somewhere. You think that might have something to do with the different reactions?
 
Wrong.
Brown was walking in the street, which is a crime. Wilson told him to get on the sidewalk. Brown reacted strongly and Wilson then recognized that he was likely the shoplifter. Things deteriorated from there, with Brown grabbing for Wilson's gun and assaulting him.
Grand Jury Volume 5

Do you understand American law procedures or do you always operate under Stalin rule of law, and mimic the show trial statement of the policia?

katyn-movie-still_thumb.jpg


The SOLE job of a Grand Jury is to decide if there is probable cause. The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.

In a REAL trial in America, Wilson's testimony would be subject to CROSS-EXAMINATION...as would all other testimonies. It IS how this should have been handled...in AMERICA comrade...
Obviously not. Wilson was completely exhonerated.
Some of the thugs who testified falsely however are finding themselves under indictment for perjury.
Star Witness in Mike Brown Case Likely to Be Charged With Perjury MrConservative.com Mr. Conservative is the top website for news political cartoons breaking news republican election news conservative facts and commentary on political elections
Sucks to be you.

Please explain to me why you right wing turds call liberals Stalinists and NAZI's, when the form of government you right wing turds endorse is EXACTLY what Stalin and Hitler practiced and the exact opposite of what liberals endorse?

You right wing turds have ZERO understanding of justice and how to safeguard justice.

As John Adams said, we are a nation of laws, not men. But you have decided the opposite. You have given a man holding power unbridled trust and no check of that power. It is EXACTLY what totalitarian governments do.



“Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak; and that it is doing God’s service when it is violating all his laws.”
John Adams

“Because power corrupts, society’s demands for moral authority and character increase as the importance of the position increases.”
John Adams

There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.
John Adams

“It is more important that innocence be protected than it is that guilt be punished, for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world that they cannot all be punished. But if innocence itself is brought to the bar and condemned, perhaps to die, then the citizen will say, “whether I do good or whether I do evil is immaterial, for innocence itself is no protection,” and if such an idea as that were to take hold in the mind of the citizen that would be the end of security whatsoever.”
John Adams
I honestly feel sorry for your three working brain cells that you tax them so much with your posts.
Today's liberals are really Progressives. They share the same philosophy as fascists. They want state control of every aspect of citizens' lives so they can improve them. They want state control of every facet of the economy so they can make it risk-free. The similarities between what Mussolini believed and what Bernie Sanders believes are striking.
Wilson was never indicted because he did nothing wrong. He was subject to who knows how many investigations. The political pressure from the White House on down must have been enormous to indict him. But they couldn't. BEcause the evidence was clear, after 3 autopsies on the poor Mr Brown. Brown was an out of control thug posing a danger to a police officer. Officer responded appropriately and neutralized the threat.

Yet YOU are the one who is defending the government without question...
I am not defending the govt without question, moron. I am looking at the facts presented and deciding based on that and my knowledge of the law that the officer was correct in his action. The lack of legal prosecution against him confirms my view.
You are merely a contradictory moron with an agenda.
 
What a difference. The families of the victims of Dylann Roof come forward and forgive the killer, to his face.


Michael Brown's stepfather shouts "burn this bitch down."


The first is an example of the best of black culture, grounded in authentic Christian values. It took a tremendous amount to come forward and say what they did. What a model for others!
The second is the worst of black culture, grounded in thug values and lacking any grace.
It doesnt get any starker than this.

Here is another contrast. The NYPD officers turning their back on their Mayor at the funeral of two officers murdered because he rightly discussed the problem of some officers abusive conduct with the families of the actual victims who forgave the actual murderer.

Thats like completely different in every way shape and form. The officers were protesting the mayor's lack of support for the work they do and implying they gun down young black men needlessly. That isnt having their back. That's knifing them in the back. DiBlasio is a moron and his tenure as mayor will be a disaster.
 
What a difference. The families of the victims of Dylann Roof come forward and forgive the killer, to his face.


Michael Brown's stepfather shouts "burn this bitch down."


The first is an example of the best of black culture, grounded in authentic Christian values. It took a tremendous amount to come forward and say what they did. What a model for others!
The second is the worst of black culture, grounded in thug values and lacking any grace.
It doesnt get any starker than this.

The killer of the nine is in jail, charged with a crime and will certainly die in prison. The killing of Michael Brown never spent a minute in jail, was not charged and is walking around free somewhere. You think that might have something to do with the different reactions?

You think the fact that the two cases are completely different might have something to do with this? Roof is a murderer, Wilson is a law enforcement officer who did his job.
 
BULLSHIT! Wilson had no knowledge Brown was part of shoplifting. Brown's crime was walking in the street

Obviously a capital offense...talk about Stalin-like...
Wrong.
Brown was walking in the street, which is a crime. Wilson told him to get on the sidewalk. Brown reacted strongly and Wilson then recognized that he was likely the shoplifter. Things deteriorated from there, with Brown grabbing for Wilson's gun and assaulting him.
Grand Jury Volume 5

Do you understand American law procedures or do you always operate under Stalin rule of law, and mimic the show trial statement of the policia?

katyn-movie-still_thumb.jpg


The SOLE job of a Grand Jury is to decide if there is probable cause. The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.

In a REAL trial in America, Wilson's testimony would be subject to CROSS-EXAMINATION...as would all other testimonies. It IS how this should have been handled...in AMERICA comrade...

There appears to be an inconsistency in several of your statements. In your Permalink #37, you challenged someone who said Officer Wilson had to take action to Keep Brown from getting away. You stated, “Brown was not running asshole.” Now you state “The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.”

It really doesn't matter because the evidence conclusively shows that Brown could not have been running away when he was shot. The forensic evidence shows that all the shots entered Brown's body from the front, none from the back. Since it is impossible to shoot a man in the front while his back is to you, it is self-evident that Michael Brown was not running away from Wilson. The blood trail also proves beyond a doubt that Brown was advancing towards the officer, not running away The blood trail began some distance away from where the body was found proving that even after being hit Brown kept coming towards Wilson.

You are correct in noting the differences between a grand jury and a trail jury. Grand jury indictments are generally easy to get because the prosecutor usually presents only the evidence he wants the jurors to hear. He does not have to present exculpatory evidence and he is even allowed to introduce evidence that would be inadmissible in a trail (such as hearsay testimony). In this particular case, the prosecutor opted to present evidence both for and against the defendant. This he had the right to do and I believe he made the right decision. It's all about evidence and ethics. We know that those who said Wilson shot Brown as he was running away are liars. The prosecutor knows it, too. Would you prefer he call only known liars to give perjured testimony just to send a case to trail? There is one other important consideration: The prosecutor had to know that there was no way in hell that Wilson would be found guilty in a criminal trial. It was better to let the grand jury end the charade rather than get a phony indictment and set the stage for more violence when the inevitable acquittal came down.

PS: In Permalink #40 The Rabbi gave you a link to the grand jury evidence. I don't think you've read it and you should.

There is no inconsistency. You are just confused.

Brown was not running away when Wilson first confronted the two boys. Wilson created a confrontational situation when Wilson unprofessionally said "get the fuck on the sidewalk". If Wilson believed Brown was a hostile suspect, he should have waited for backup and not tried to confront Brown alone. With backup, NO shots would have been needed to apprehend the suspect.

Once Wilson began firing at Brown THAT is when Brown ran away. The fact that no bullets entered from the rear is not proof Wilson didn't fire while Brown was running away.

15 witnesses say Wilson fired while Brown was running away.
16 witnesses said Michael Brown put his hands up while being gunned down.
7 witnesses said Michael Brown was kneeling while still being fired upon.
6 witnesses said Wilson continued firing once Brown was on the ground.

There was probable cause to elevate the case to a jury trial, complete with cross examination. But the prosecutor UNethically decided that Officer Wilson was innocent all by himself and UNethically abused the Grand Jury process.

If there had been a trial, regardless of the outcome, it would have defused public outrage and protests. Most people trust a public trial to issue justice. Instead of a jury, a government agent decided another government agent was innocent. His story went unquestioned... It is right out of Stalin's modus operandi.

The fact that you folks on the right have ZERO understanding of what justice is and what it isn't is mind boggling.

You said, “Once Wilson began firing at Brown THAT is when Brown ran away. The fact that no bullets entered from the rear is not proof Wilson didn't fire while Brown was running away.” But if Brown was running away when the shooting started, what made him decide to turn around and go back towards Wilson while shots were still being fired. The scenario you propose doesn't make sense.

Here is what happened according to the grand jury testimony of Officer Wilson: There were shots fired from inside the police car when Brown and Wilson were engaged in a struggle. The shots frightened Brown who did run a short distance with officer Wilson in pursuit (no shots were fired during the chase). When Brown stopped running so did Wilson. Brown then turned and faced Wilson. Wilson ordered him to get on the ground; However, Brown charged towards Wilson instead and that is when Brown was shot multiple times. At no time did Officer Wilson fire at Brown as he was running away. However, even if he did, at that point Brown would have been considered a dangerous felon and Wilson had the right to use deadly force to prevent his escape. When A dangerous felon is running away a policeman has the right to put a bullet in his back to stop him. You can debate whether or not Brown was in fact a dangerous felon. I have a JD (Juris Doctorate and I say he was.

You said, “If there had been a trial, regardless of the outcome, it would have defused public outrage and protests. Most people trust a public trial to issue justice. ..” Apparently you are the only one in the whole damn country who never heard of George Zimmerman. Do you remember what happened when he was acquitted?

One last thing: The prosecutor presented witnesses that gave testimony favorable to Wilson and those who testified against him (the link below summarizes the testimony of the witnesses). There is no evidence that the grand jury proceedings were unfair in any way. It is the jurors who decided not to indict, not some agent of the government as you suggest. The jurors weighed the testimony of the various witnesses against the forensic evidence to arrive at their decision. You must think the jurors were stupid and easily flim-flammed by some unscrupulous slick-talking prosecutor.

Ferguson Grand Jury Chart of What the Witnesses Say They Saw The New Republic

It was apparent that some witnesses on both sides were less than truthful, some eventually admitting on the stand that their entire testimony was fabricated. You actually need to read the entire transcript, including the forensic evidence; then and only then will you be in the same position the jurors were.

OK, you have the last word. I have wasted all the time I am going to on this matter.

Hello? Do you live on the planet named "Earth"? Do YOU remember what happened when George Zimmerman was acquitted? NOTHING...no riots, no violence...NOTHING.

The waste of time is trying to explain what is and isn't justice to someone incapable of understanding it.

The prosecutor was the "decider", not We, the People...

Prosecutor Used Grand Jury to Let Darren Wilson Walk - The Daily Beast

Let’s be candid and clear about grand juries in the United States: They are at all times completely and unalterably under the control and direction of the prosecutor. If the prosecutor wishes to secure an indictment, a “true bill” is inevitably returned. It is extraordinarily rare for a grand jury to override the prosecutor’s intention to obtain an indictment. In my 27 years as a police officer in Boston, I have never heard of a situation in which a prosecutor failed to secure an indictment when seeking such—plainly put: It doesn’t happen. That McCulloch failed to obtain an indictment of Wilson means only one thing: He did not want to obtain an indictment. It had nothing whatsoever to do with the evidence and everything to do with the prosecutor’s unwillingness to try the case in court and his reluctance to incur the wrath of the law-enforcement community to which he is so incestuously tethered.
 
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Wrong.
Brown was walking in the street, which is a crime. Wilson told him to get on the sidewalk. Brown reacted strongly and Wilson then recognized that he was likely the shoplifter. Things deteriorated from there, with Brown grabbing for Wilson's gun and assaulting him.
Grand Jury Volume 5

Do you understand American law procedures or do you always operate under Stalin rule of law, and mimic the show trial statement of the policia?

katyn-movie-still_thumb.jpg


The SOLE job of a Grand Jury is to decide if there is probable cause. The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.

In a REAL trial in America, Wilson's testimony would be subject to CROSS-EXAMINATION...as would all other testimonies. It IS how this should have been handled...in AMERICA comrade...

There appears to be an inconsistency in several of your statements. In your Permalink #37, you challenged someone who said Officer Wilson had to take action to Keep Brown from getting away. You stated, “Brown was not running asshole.” Now you state “The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.”

It really doesn't matter because the evidence conclusively shows that Brown could not have been running away when he was shot. The forensic evidence shows that all the shots entered Brown's body from the front, none from the back. Since it is impossible to shoot a man in the front while his back is to you, it is self-evident that Michael Brown was not running away from Wilson. The blood trail also proves beyond a doubt that Brown was advancing towards the officer, not running away The blood trail began some distance away from where the body was found proving that even after being hit Brown kept coming towards Wilson.

You are correct in noting the differences between a grand jury and a trail jury. Grand jury indictments are generally easy to get because the prosecutor usually presents only the evidence he wants the jurors to hear. He does not have to present exculpatory evidence and he is even allowed to introduce evidence that would be inadmissible in a trail (such as hearsay testimony). In this particular case, the prosecutor opted to present evidence both for and against the defendant. This he had the right to do and I believe he made the right decision. It's all about evidence and ethics. We know that those who said Wilson shot Brown as he was running away are liars. The prosecutor knows it, too. Would you prefer he call only known liars to give perjured testimony just to send a case to trail? There is one other important consideration: The prosecutor had to know that there was no way in hell that Wilson would be found guilty in a criminal trial. It was better to let the grand jury end the charade rather than get a phony indictment and set the stage for more violence when the inevitable acquittal came down.

PS: In Permalink #40 The Rabbi gave you a link to the grand jury evidence. I don't think you've read it and you should.

There is no inconsistency. You are just confused.

Brown was not running away when Wilson first confronted the two boys. Wilson created a confrontational situation when Wilson unprofessionally said "get the fuck on the sidewalk". If Wilson believed Brown was a hostile suspect, he should have waited for backup and not tried to confront Brown alone. With backup, NO shots would have been needed to apprehend the suspect.

Once Wilson began firing at Brown THAT is when Brown ran away. The fact that no bullets entered from the rear is not proof Wilson didn't fire while Brown was running away.

15 witnesses say Wilson fired while Brown was running away.
16 witnesses said Michael Brown put his hands up while being gunned down.
7 witnesses said Michael Brown was kneeling while still being fired upon.
6 witnesses said Wilson continued firing once Brown was on the ground.

There was probable cause to elevate the case to a jury trial, complete with cross examination. But the prosecutor UNethically decided that Officer Wilson was innocent all by himself and UNethically abused the Grand Jury process.

If there had been a trial, regardless of the outcome, it would have defused public outrage and protests. Most people trust a public trial to issue justice. Instead of a jury, a government agent decided another government agent was innocent. His story went unquestioned... It is right out of Stalin's modus operandi.

The fact that you folks on the right have ZERO understanding of what justice is and what it isn't is mind boggling.

You said, “Once Wilson began firing at Brown THAT is when Brown ran away. The fact that no bullets entered from the rear is not proof Wilson didn't fire while Brown was running away.” But if Brown was running away when the shooting started, what made him decide to turn around and go back towards Wilson while shots were still being fired. The scenario you propose doesn't make sense.

Here is what happened according to the grand jury testimony of Officer Wilson: There were shots fired from inside the police car when Brown and Wilson were engaged in a struggle. The shots frightened Brown who did run a short distance with officer Wilson in pursuit (no shots were fired during the chase). When Brown stopped running so did Wilson. Brown then turned and faced Wilson. Wilson ordered him to get on the ground; However, Brown charged towards Wilson instead and that is when Brown was shot multiple times. At no time did Officer Wilson fire at Brown as he was running away. However, even if he did, at that point Brown would have been considered a dangerous felon and Wilson had the right to use deadly force to prevent his escape. When A dangerous felon is running away a policeman has the right to put a bullet in his back to stop him. You can debate whether or not Brown was in fact a dangerous felon. I have a JD (Juris Doctorate and I say he was.

You said, “If there had been a trial, regardless of the outcome, it would have defused public outrage and protests. Most people trust a public trial to issue justice. ..” Apparently you are the only one in the whole damn country who never heard of George Zimmerman. Do you remember what happened when he was acquitted?

One last thing: The prosecutor presented witnesses that gave testimony favorable to Wilson and those who testified against him (the link below summarizes the testimony of the witnesses). There is no evidence that the grand jury proceedings were unfair in any way. It is the jurors who decided not to indict, not some agent of the government as you suggest. The jurors weighed the testimony of the various witnesses against the forensic evidence to arrive at their decision. You must think the jurors were stupid and easily flim-flammed by some unscrupulous slick-talking prosecutor.

Ferguson Grand Jury Chart of What the Witnesses Say They Saw The New Republic

It was apparent that some witnesses on both sides were less than truthful, some eventually admitting on the stand that their entire testimony was fabricated. You actually need to read the entire transcript, including the forensic evidence; then and only then will you be in the same position the jurors were.

OK, you have the last word. I have wasted all the time I am going to on this matter.

Hello? Do you live on the planet named "Earth"? Do YOU remember what happened when George Zimmerman was acquitted? NOTHING...no riots, no violence...NOTHING.

The waste of time is trying to explain what is and isn't justice to someone incapable of understanding it.

The prosecutor was the "decider", not We, the People...

Prosecutor Used Grand Jury to Let Darren Wilson Walk - The Daily Beast
Well other than Zimmerman having to leave home because he was targeted for killing by angry blacks.
Prosecutorial discretion is a bedrock principle. There was no evidence Wilson did anything wrong. There was no evidence Zimmerman did anything wrong either, which is why the prosecutor there, bowing to political pressure, bypassed the grand jury and brought the case directly to the petty jury.
 
Do you understand American law procedures or do you always operate under Stalin rule of law, and mimic the show trial statement of the policia?

katyn-movie-still_thumb.jpg


The SOLE job of a Grand Jury is to decide if there is probable cause. The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.

In a REAL trial in America, Wilson's testimony would be subject to CROSS-EXAMINATION...as would all other testimonies. It IS how this should have been handled...in AMERICA comrade...

There appears to be an inconsistency in several of your statements. In your Permalink #37, you challenged someone who said Officer Wilson had to take action to Keep Brown from getting away. You stated, “Brown was not running asshole.” Now you state “The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.”

It really doesn't matter because the evidence conclusively shows that Brown could not have been running away when he was shot. The forensic evidence shows that all the shots entered Brown's body from the front, none from the back. Since it is impossible to shoot a man in the front while his back is to you, it is self-evident that Michael Brown was not running away from Wilson. The blood trail also proves beyond a doubt that Brown was advancing towards the officer, not running away The blood trail began some distance away from where the body was found proving that even after being hit Brown kept coming towards Wilson.

You are correct in noting the differences between a grand jury and a trail jury. Grand jury indictments are generally easy to get because the prosecutor usually presents only the evidence he wants the jurors to hear. He does not have to present exculpatory evidence and he is even allowed to introduce evidence that would be inadmissible in a trail (such as hearsay testimony). In this particular case, the prosecutor opted to present evidence both for and against the defendant. This he had the right to do and I believe he made the right decision. It's all about evidence and ethics. We know that those who said Wilson shot Brown as he was running away are liars. The prosecutor knows it, too. Would you prefer he call only known liars to give perjured testimony just to send a case to trail? There is one other important consideration: The prosecutor had to know that there was no way in hell that Wilson would be found guilty in a criminal trial. It was better to let the grand jury end the charade rather than get a phony indictment and set the stage for more violence when the inevitable acquittal came down.

PS: In Permalink #40 The Rabbi gave you a link to the grand jury evidence. I don't think you've read it and you should.

There is no inconsistency. You are just confused.

Brown was not running away when Wilson first confronted the two boys. Wilson created a confrontational situation when Wilson unprofessionally said "get the fuck on the sidewalk". If Wilson believed Brown was a hostile suspect, he should have waited for backup and not tried to confront Brown alone. With backup, NO shots would have been needed to apprehend the suspect.

Once Wilson began firing at Brown THAT is when Brown ran away. The fact that no bullets entered from the rear is not proof Wilson didn't fire while Brown was running away.

15 witnesses say Wilson fired while Brown was running away.
16 witnesses said Michael Brown put his hands up while being gunned down.
7 witnesses said Michael Brown was kneeling while still being fired upon.
6 witnesses said Wilson continued firing once Brown was on the ground.

There was probable cause to elevate the case to a jury trial, complete with cross examination. But the prosecutor UNethically decided that Officer Wilson was innocent all by himself and UNethically abused the Grand Jury process.

If there had been a trial, regardless of the outcome, it would have defused public outrage and protests. Most people trust a public trial to issue justice. Instead of a jury, a government agent decided another government agent was innocent. His story went unquestioned... It is right out of Stalin's modus operandi.

The fact that you folks on the right have ZERO understanding of what justice is and what it isn't is mind boggling.

You said, “Once Wilson began firing at Brown THAT is when Brown ran away. The fact that no bullets entered from the rear is not proof Wilson didn't fire while Brown was running away.” But if Brown was running away when the shooting started, what made him decide to turn around and go back towards Wilson while shots were still being fired. The scenario you propose doesn't make sense.

Here is what happened according to the grand jury testimony of Officer Wilson: There were shots fired from inside the police car when Brown and Wilson were engaged in a struggle. The shots frightened Brown who did run a short distance with officer Wilson in pursuit (no shots were fired during the chase). When Brown stopped running so did Wilson. Brown then turned and faced Wilson. Wilson ordered him to get on the ground; However, Brown charged towards Wilson instead and that is when Brown was shot multiple times. At no time did Officer Wilson fire at Brown as he was running away. However, even if he did, at that point Brown would have been considered a dangerous felon and Wilson had the right to use deadly force to prevent his escape. When A dangerous felon is running away a policeman has the right to put a bullet in his back to stop him. You can debate whether or not Brown was in fact a dangerous felon. I have a JD (Juris Doctorate and I say he was.

You said, “If there had been a trial, regardless of the outcome, it would have defused public outrage and protests. Most people trust a public trial to issue justice. ..” Apparently you are the only one in the whole damn country who never heard of George Zimmerman. Do you remember what happened when he was acquitted?

One last thing: The prosecutor presented witnesses that gave testimony favorable to Wilson and those who testified against him (the link below summarizes the testimony of the witnesses). There is no evidence that the grand jury proceedings were unfair in any way. It is the jurors who decided not to indict, not some agent of the government as you suggest. The jurors weighed the testimony of the various witnesses against the forensic evidence to arrive at their decision. You must think the jurors were stupid and easily flim-flammed by some unscrupulous slick-talking prosecutor.

Ferguson Grand Jury Chart of What the Witnesses Say They Saw The New Republic

It was apparent that some witnesses on both sides were less than truthful, some eventually admitting on the stand that their entire testimony was fabricated. You actually need to read the entire transcript, including the forensic evidence; then and only then will you be in the same position the jurors were.

OK, you have the last word. I have wasted all the time I am going to on this matter.

Hello? Do you live on the planet named "Earth"? Do YOU remember what happened when George Zimmerman was acquitted? NOTHING...no riots, no violence...NOTHING.

The waste of time is trying to explain what is and isn't justice to someone incapable of understanding it.

The prosecutor was the "decider", not We, the People...

Prosecutor Used Grand Jury to Let Darren Wilson Walk - The Daily Beast
Well other than Zimmerman having to leave home because he was targeted for killing by angry blacks.
Prosecutorial discretion is a bedrock principle. There was no evidence Wilson did anything wrong. There was no evidence Zimmerman did anything wrong either, which is why the prosecutor there, bowing to political pressure, bypassed the grand jury and brought the case directly to the petty jury.

There is no evidence Wilson SAID anything wrong.. Because he was allowed to make statements unchallenged by cross examination. Your contempt for our jury system is duly noted. Stalin would be so proud of your defense for the policia!
 
Do you understand American law procedures or do you always operate under Stalin rule of law, and mimic the show trial statement of the policia?

katyn-movie-still_thumb.jpg


The SOLE job of a Grand Jury is to decide if there is probable cause. The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.

In a REAL trial in America, Wilson's testimony would be subject to CROSS-EXAMINATION...as would all other testimonies. It IS how this should have been handled...in AMERICA comrade...

There appears to be an inconsistency in several of your statements. In your Permalink #37, you challenged someone who said Officer Wilson had to take action to Keep Brown from getting away. You stated, “Brown was not running asshole.” Now you state “The testimony of Dorian Johnson and numerous other witnesses who said Wilson fired as Brown was running away was enough probable cause to elevate the case to a REAL trial.”

It really doesn't matter because the evidence conclusively shows that Brown could not have been running away when he was shot. The forensic evidence shows that all the shots entered Brown's body from the front, none from the back. Since it is impossible to shoot a man in the front while his back is to you, it is self-evident that Michael Brown was not running away from Wilson. The blood trail also proves beyond a doubt that Brown was advancing towards the officer, not running away The blood trail began some distance away from where the body was found proving that even after being hit Brown kept coming towards Wilson.

You are correct in noting the differences between a grand jury and a trail jury. Grand jury indictments are generally easy to get because the prosecutor usually presents only the evidence he wants the jurors to hear. He does not have to present exculpatory evidence and he is even allowed to introduce evidence that would be inadmissible in a trail (such as hearsay testimony). In this particular case, the prosecutor opted to present evidence both for and against the defendant. This he had the right to do and I believe he made the right decision. It's all about evidence and ethics. We know that those who said Wilson shot Brown as he was running away are liars. The prosecutor knows it, too. Would you prefer he call only known liars to give perjured testimony just to send a case to trail? There is one other important consideration: The prosecutor had to know that there was no way in hell that Wilson would be found guilty in a criminal trial. It was better to let the grand jury end the charade rather than get a phony indictment and set the stage for more violence when the inevitable acquittal came down.

PS: In Permalink #40 The Rabbi gave you a link to the grand jury evidence. I don't think you've read it and you should.

There is no inconsistency. You are just confused.

Brown was not running away when Wilson first confronted the two boys. Wilson created a confrontational situation when Wilson unprofessionally said "get the fuck on the sidewalk". If Wilson believed Brown was a hostile suspect, he should have waited for backup and not tried to confront Brown alone. With backup, NO shots would have been needed to apprehend the suspect.

Once Wilson began firing at Brown THAT is when Brown ran away. The fact that no bullets entered from the rear is not proof Wilson didn't fire while Brown was running away.

15 witnesses say Wilson fired while Brown was running away.
16 witnesses said Michael Brown put his hands up while being gunned down.
7 witnesses said Michael Brown was kneeling while still being fired upon.
6 witnesses said Wilson continued firing once Brown was on the ground.

There was probable cause to elevate the case to a jury trial, complete with cross examination. But the prosecutor UNethically decided that Officer Wilson was innocent all by himself and UNethically abused the Grand Jury process.

If there had been a trial, regardless of the outcome, it would have defused public outrage and protests. Most people trust a public trial to issue justice. Instead of a jury, a government agent decided another government agent was innocent. His story went unquestioned... It is right out of Stalin's modus operandi.

The fact that you folks on the right have ZERO understanding of what justice is and what it isn't is mind boggling.

You said, “Once Wilson began firing at Brown THAT is when Brown ran away. The fact that no bullets entered from the rear is not proof Wilson didn't fire while Brown was running away.” But if Brown was running away when the shooting started, what made him decide to turn around and go back towards Wilson while shots were still being fired. The scenario you propose doesn't make sense.

Here is what happened according to the grand jury testimony of Officer Wilson: There were shots fired from inside the police car when Brown and Wilson were engaged in a struggle. The shots frightened Brown who did run a short distance with officer Wilson in pursuit (no shots were fired during the chase). When Brown stopped running so did Wilson. Brown then turned and faced Wilson. Wilson ordered him to get on the ground; However, Brown charged towards Wilson instead and that is when Brown was shot multiple times. At no time did Officer Wilson fire at Brown as he was running away. However, even if he did, at that point Brown would have been considered a dangerous felon and Wilson had the right to use deadly force to prevent his escape. When A dangerous felon is running away a policeman has the right to put a bullet in his back to stop him. You can debate whether or not Brown was in fact a dangerous felon. I have a JD (Juris Doctorate and I say he was.

You said, “If there had been a trial, regardless of the outcome, it would have defused public outrage and protests. Most people trust a public trial to issue justice. ..” Apparently you are the only one in the whole damn country who never heard of George Zimmerman. Do you remember what happened when he was acquitted?

One last thing: The prosecutor presented witnesses that gave testimony favorable to Wilson and those who testified against him (the link below summarizes the testimony of the witnesses). There is no evidence that the grand jury proceedings were unfair in any way. It is the jurors who decided not to indict, not some agent of the government as you suggest. The jurors weighed the testimony of the various witnesses against the forensic evidence to arrive at their decision. You must think the jurors were stupid and easily flim-flammed by some unscrupulous slick-talking prosecutor.

Ferguson Grand Jury Chart of What the Witnesses Say They Saw The New Republic

It was apparent that some witnesses on both sides were less than truthful, some eventually admitting on the stand that their entire testimony was fabricated. You actually need to read the entire transcript, including the forensic evidence; then and only then will you be in the same position the jurors were.

OK, you have the last word. I have wasted all the time I am going to on this matter.

Hello? Do you live on the planet named "Earth"? Do YOU remember what happened when George Zimmerman was acquitted? NOTHING...no riots, no violence...NOTHING.

The waste of time is trying to explain what is and isn't justice to someone incapable of understanding it.

The prosecutor was the "decider", not We, the People...

Prosecutor Used Grand Jury to Let Darren Wilson Walk - The Daily Beast
Well other than Zimmerman having to leave home because he was targeted for killing by angry blacks.
Prosecutorial discretion is a bedrock principle. There was no evidence Wilson did anything wrong. There was no evidence Zimmerman did anything wrong either, which is why the prosecutor there, bowing to political pressure, bypassed the grand jury and brought the case directly to the petty jury.
It is a petit jury, not a petty jury. The petty jury are the idiots who post here.
 

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