"U.S. Government FOR SALE"....Koch Brothers are the buyers

[sealybobo]

Wanted to share this about the Koch family

Koch brothers’ father did business with the Nazis, book claims — just like Prescott Bush, Henry Ford & some U.S. corporations

Fred Koch, the father of powerful right-wing American billionaires Charles and David Koch, did business with the Nazis. Fred Koch helped build the third-largest oil refinery in Nazi Germany in the 1930s. His project was personally approved by Adolf Hitler, and the oil refinery fueled German planes, helping the Nazis carry out a campaign of genocide and destruction across Europe. Fred Koch was such an admirer of Nazism, he hired a Nazi as a governess for his eldest boys.
Kochs the hidden and self-interested hands behind the rise and growth of the modern conservative movement. These ultra-rich families fund rightist think tanks, form reactionary political organizations, sponsor large scholarships and lobby aggressively for anti-tax policies. Kochs have created a veritable economic and political empire, using their voluminous wealth to bankroll hard-line right-wing political activity. In many ways, the billionaire brothers control the Republican Party. In the 1970s, the right-wing libertarian publication Reason repeatedly gave a platform to Holocaust deniers and Nazi sympathizers. The Koch Brothers have given millions of dollars to the Reason Foundation, and David Koch sits on its board of trustees.

Sooooo, the Koch's dad did business with them, but your buddy Soros actually turned Jews over to the Nazis and proclaimed it the happiest time in his life. And you like Soros and think the Kochs are evil. You're pretty amusing dude. Stupid, but amusing....

Soros isn't pushing right wing libertarian policies last I checked. It is that which I object to. And do you have a link to soror saying that?

So Koch brothers father my of had dealings with Germany and Soros himself helped deliver Jews to the Nazis, however you are only outraged at the Koch's father because his sons are libertarians and yet it is okay that Soros helped kill Jews.

This is the stupidity of the left personified.

A. I don't know that Soros did what you say he did. I hardly know who the guy is or what he does. If the right wing media wants to warn us about this guy, they're going to have to do a better job of explaining to us who he is and why he is bad for us. I don't see Soros pushing right wing radical libertarian policies.
B. The Koch brothers are very bad people. Sure they give to charities they deem worthy but they are anti middle class and anti American. Why don't you read the book? You might learn something. And I'm all ears about how Soros is the devil. Right now he seems like the boogyman for the GOP.

You are certainly a big fan of the GOP. The claws come out when I attack them. Or the rich people that own them and push the right wing agenda. Are you a libertarian or something? To be honest, I don't even know what you are other than anti Democratic.

The fact that you refuse to even look into just what kind of scumbag Soros is is very telling. As bad as you claim the Kochs to be Soros is. He has bankrupted PUBLIC EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT SYSTEMS TO MAKE HIS BILLIONS! He is far more despicable than the Kochs are and you don't care. What an asshole...

– In 1997, during the Asian financial crisis, the then Malaysian Prime Minister, Mahathir bin Mohamad, accused him of bringing down the Malaysian currency, the ringgit, through his trading activities. In Thailand he was branded an “economic war criminal” who “sucks the blood from the people”.



Soros Created ‘Abenomics’
To Suicide Japan’s Economy
Soros Created ‘Abenomics’ To Suicide Japan’s Economy

Soros is a well known supporter of progressive and liberal political causes. Between 1979 and 2015 Soros donated more than $11 billion to various philanthropic causes. He played a significant role in the peaceful transition from communism to capitalism in Eastern Europe (1984–89) and provided one of Europe's largest higher education endowments to the Central European University in Budapest.

I did a quick search and didn't see anything that made him as bad as the Koch's.

Oh, and maybe we should take money out of our politics to give guys like this less power. Do you want to do that? Because I do. But that would mean the Koch's don't have any power either.

One person, one vote. That should be it. If you want to donate, the max you can donate is $100. I would like that. Would you? Would you like to stop guys like the Koch's and Soros from having too much power? See my friend, that is where you will stop short.

Do you like Citizens United?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Boogeyman alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Sooooo, the Koch's dad did business with them, but your buddy Soros actually turned Jews over to the Nazis and proclaimed it the happiest time in his life. And you like Soros and think the Kochs are evil. You're pretty amusing dude. Stupid, but amusing....

Soros isn't pushing right wing libertarian policies last I checked. It is that which I object to. And do you have a link to soror saying that?

So Koch brothers father my of had dealings with Germany and Soros himself helped deliver Jews to the Nazis, however you are only outraged at the Koch's father because his sons are libertarians and yet it is okay that Soros helped kill Jews.

This is the stupidity of the left personified.

A. I don't know that Soros did what you say he did. I hardly know who the guy is or what he does. If the right wing media wants to warn us about this guy, they're going to have to do a better job of explaining to us who he is and why he is bad for us. I don't see Soros pushing right wing radical libertarian policies.
B. The Koch brothers are very bad people. Sure they give to charities they deem worthy but they are anti middle class and anti American. Why don't you read the book? You might learn something. And I'm all ears about how Soros is the devil. Right now he seems like the boogyman for the GOP.

You are certainly a big fan of the GOP. The claws come out when I attack them. Or the rich people that own them and push the right wing agenda. Are you a libertarian or something? To be honest, I don't even know what you are other than anti Democratic.

The fact that you refuse to even look into just what kind of scumbag Soros is is very telling. As bad as you claim the Kochs to be Soros is. He has bankrupted PUBLIC EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT SYSTEMS TO MAKE HIS BILLIONS! He is far more despicable than the Kochs are and you don't care. What an asshole...

– In 1997, during the Asian financial crisis, the then Malaysian Prime Minister, Mahathir bin Mohamad, accused him of bringing down the Malaysian currency, the ringgit, through his trading activities. In Thailand he was branded an “economic war criminal” who “sucks the blood from the people”.



Soros Created ‘Abenomics’
To Suicide Japan’s Economy
Soros Created ‘Abenomics’ To Suicide Japan’s Economy

Soros is a well known supporter of progressive and liberal political causes. Between 1979 and 2015 Soros donated more than $11 billion to various philanthropic causes. He played a significant role in the peaceful transition from communism to capitalism in Eastern Europe (1984–89) and provided one of Europe's largest higher education endowments to the Central European University in Budapest.

I did a quick search and didn't see anything that made him as bad as the Koch's.

Oh, and maybe we should take money out of our politics to give guys like this less power. Do you want to do that? Because I do. But that would mean the Koch's don't have any power either.

One person, one vote. That should be it. If you want to donate, the max you can donate is $100. I would like that. Would you? Would you like to stop guys like the Koch's and Soros from having too much power? See my friend, that is where you will stop short.

Do you like Citizens United?

Not as bad? Soros only crashed britains currency but he's all good. Lol.

 

[sealybobo]

Republicans got their wish and have practically destroyed unions in America. So what has been accomplished? The rich got richer and the poor got poorer.

And then Rethuglicans will try to turn around and blame liberals for the inequality and try to ignore that its their policies that destroyed the middle class. And meanwhile the richest Republicans are crying about the debt all while their $1 billion is now $8 billion and USMB redumblicans are soooo worried about them.

No, the unions have done themselves in. A good friend of mine is a retired Chief Engineer from the former US maritime service. He worked for APL (look them up) and thanks to the unions he had a wonderful salary, excellent benefits, and a wonderful retirement (he makes more in one year retired than you probably will in your entire life) but he also admitted that the union had killed the American shipping industry. they so priced themselves out of competition that now the only American flagged shipping line is Matson Bros. and they are only US flagged because they have to be by law as they are part of the US Military Sealift Command.

Hundreds of shipping lines were forced out of business by the unions and their demands.

The same thing is happening in the trades. I have an acquaintance who is a union electrician. He gets very little work from his shop (San Jose) so he moved up here to Nevada where he works on non union jobs to survive. The union gives the jobs to their friends and the rest of the guys like the guy I know are left to fend for themselves on maybe three gigs in a year. That's retarded. And THAT is what has killed the unions.

I know a former union rep that was with a large transit company and he said he was forced to represent people that deserved to be fired and constantly skirted the rules because they had Union protection.

Yep. My dad worked as a truck driver for most of his life and even though he was an asshole he was a good worker. He never shirked I have to give him that much. He complained that at his trucking company there was roughly 20% of the work force who sat around and did nothing but collect a paycheck thanks to "work rules".

The union decided they were going to go on strike and the company told them they couldn't afford to pay any more. The union reps said they were lying. They went on strike and the company shut its doors the next day. Talk about a bunch of morons. Hundreds of workers without a job thanks to simple greed and stupidity.

Yea they are so stupid

45,800 Ford workers to get record profit-sharing checks - The Detroit News

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/03/opinion/reagan-vs-patco-the-strike-that-busted-unions.html?_r=0

And no coincidence as union membership declined from 35% of the US workforce to less than 10%, so has wages. So when you say unions are why companies leave the USA, you are correct because companies don't like paying good wages and Americans like making good wages.

 

[sealybobo]

Soros isn't pushing right wing libertarian policies last I checked. It is that which I object to. And do you have a link to soror saying that?

So Koch brothers father my of had dealings with Germany and Soros himself helped deliver Jews to the Nazis, however you are only outraged at the Koch's father because his sons are libertarians and yet it is okay that Soros helped kill Jews.

This is the stupidity of the left personified.

A. I don't know that Soros did what you say he did. I hardly know who the guy is or what he does. If the right wing media wants to warn us about this guy, they're going to have to do a better job of explaining to us who he is and why he is bad for us. I don't see Soros pushing right wing radical libertarian policies.
B. The Koch brothers are very bad people. Sure they give to charities they deem worthy but they are anti middle class and anti American. Why don't you read the book? You might learn something. And I'm all ears about how Soros is the devil. Right now he seems like the boogyman for the GOP.

You are certainly a big fan of the GOP. The claws come out when I attack them. Or the rich people that own them and push the right wing agenda. Are you a libertarian or something? To be honest, I don't even know what you are other than anti Democratic.

The fact that you refuse to even look into just what kind of scumbag Soros is is very telling. As bad as you claim the Kochs to be Soros is. He has bankrupted PUBLIC EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT SYSTEMS TO MAKE HIS BILLIONS! He is far more despicable than the Kochs are and you don't care. What an asshole...

– In 1997, during the Asian financial crisis, the then Malaysian Prime Minister, Mahathir bin Mohamad, accused him of bringing down the Malaysian currency, the ringgit, through his trading activities. In Thailand he was branded an “economic war criminal” who “sucks the blood from the people”.



Soros Created ‘Abenomics’
To Suicide Japan’s Economy
Soros Created ‘Abenomics’ To Suicide Japan’s Economy

Soros is a well known supporter of progressive and liberal political causes. Between 1979 and 2015 Soros donated more than $11 billion to various philanthropic causes. He played a significant role in the peaceful transition from communism to capitalism in Eastern Europe (1984–89) and provided one of Europe's largest higher education endowments to the Central European University in Budapest.

I did a quick search and didn't see anything that made him as bad as the Koch's.

Oh, and maybe we should take money out of our politics to give guys like this less power. Do you want to do that? Because I do. But that would mean the Koch's don't have any power either.

One person, one vote. That should be it. If you want to donate, the max you can donate is $100. I would like that. Would you? Would you like to stop guys like the Koch's and Soros from having too much power? See my friend, that is where you will stop short.

Do you like Citizens United?

Not as bad? Soros only crashed britains currency but he's all good. Lol.

Do I give a fuck about Britain? What has he done to hurt me?

Do you like Citizens United? If you would join me in an attempt to end it, you will also end Soros and Koch's power in Washington. But as usual you won't answer a question that will get you to admit the Koch's and Soros and all billionaires have too much power in our government. Maybe one day you'll realize they are why the debt is where it is, not liberals.



Turns out we don't have to pay taxes. We do so willingly. But only rich people know they don't have to pay taxes. And if poor people try it they'll go in front of a kangaroo court and be found guilty of what rich people get away with all the time.

 

[Papageorgio]

Republicans got their wish and have practically destroyed unions in America. So what has been accomplished? The rich got richer and the poor got poorer.

And then Rethuglicans will try to turn around and blame liberals for the inequality and try to ignore that its their policies that destroyed the middle class. And meanwhile the richest Republicans are crying about the debt all while their $1 billion is now $8 billion and USMB redumblicans are soooo worried about them.

No, the unions have done themselves in. A good friend of mine is a retired Chief Engineer from the former US maritime service. He worked for APL (look them up) and thanks to the unions he had a wonderful salary, excellent benefits, and a wonderful retirement (he makes more in one year retired than you probably will in your entire life) but he also admitted that the union had killed the American shipping industry. they so priced themselves out of competition that now the only American flagged shipping line is Matson Bros. and they are only US flagged because they have to be by law as they are part of the US Military Sealift Command.

Hundreds of shipping lines were forced out of business by the unions and their demands.

The same thing is happening in the trades. I have an acquaintance who is a union electrician. He gets very little work from his shop (San Jose) so he moved up here to Nevada where he works on non union jobs to survive. The union gives the jobs to their friends and the rest of the guys like the guy I know are left to fend for themselves on maybe three gigs in a year. That's retarded. And THAT is what has killed the unions.

I know a former union rep that was with a large transit company and he said he was forced to represent people that deserved to be fired and constantly skirted the rules because they had Union protection.

Yep. My dad worked as a truck driver for most of his life and even though he was an asshole he was a good worker. He never shirked I have to give him that much. He complained that at his trucking company there was roughly 20% of the work force who sat around and did nothing but collect a paycheck thanks to "work rules".

The union decided they were going to go on strike and the company told them they couldn't afford to pay any more. The union reps said they were lying. They went on strike and the company shut its doors the next day. Talk about a bunch of morons. Hundreds of workers without a job thanks to simple greed and stupidity.

Yea they are so stupid

45,800 Ford workers to get record profit-sharing checks - The Detroit News

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/03/opinion/reagan-vs-patco-the-strike-that-busted-unions.html?_r=0

And no coincidence as union membership declined from 35% of the US workforce to less than 10%, so has wages. So when you say unions are why companies leave the USA, you are correct because companies don't like paying good wages and Americans like making good wages.

You are really stupid with your blanket bullshit. Since you are so big on unions, which union do you work with? How much do you contribute to unions to help strengthen them.

 

[Papageorgio]

So Koch brothers father my of had dealings with Germany and Soros himself helped deliver Jews to the Nazis, however you are only outraged at the Koch's father because his sons are libertarians and yet it is okay that Soros helped kill Jews.

This is the stupidity of the left personified.

A. I don't know that Soros did what you say he did. I hardly know who the guy is or what he does. If the right wing media wants to warn us about this guy, they're going to have to do a better job of explaining to us who he is and why he is bad for us. I don't see Soros pushing right wing radical libertarian policies.
B. The Koch brothers are very bad people. Sure they give to charities they deem worthy but they are anti middle class and anti American. Why don't you read the book? You might learn something. And I'm all ears about how Soros is the devil. Right now he seems like the boogyman for the GOP.

You are certainly a big fan of the GOP. The claws come out when I attack them. Or the rich people that own them and push the right wing agenda. Are you a libertarian or something? To be honest, I don't even know what you are other than anti Democratic.

The fact that you refuse to even look into just what kind of scumbag Soros is is very telling. As bad as you claim the Kochs to be Soros is. He has bankrupted PUBLIC EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT SYSTEMS TO MAKE HIS BILLIONS! He is far more despicable than the Kochs are and you don't care. What an asshole...

– In 1997, during the Asian financial crisis, the then Malaysian Prime Minister, Mahathir bin Mohamad, accused him of bringing down the Malaysian currency, the ringgit, through his trading activities. In Thailand he was branded an “economic war criminal” who “sucks the blood from the people”.



Soros Created ‘Abenomics’
To Suicide Japan’s Economy
Soros Created ‘Abenomics’ To Suicide Japan’s Economy

Soros is a well known supporter of progressive and liberal political causes. Between 1979 and 2015 Soros donated more than $11 billion to various philanthropic causes. He played a significant role in the peaceful transition from communism to capitalism in Eastern Europe (1984–89) and provided one of Europe's largest higher education endowments to the Central European University in Budapest.

I did a quick search and didn't see anything that made him as bad as the Koch's.

Oh, and maybe we should take money out of our politics to give guys like this less power. Do you want to do that? Because I do. But that would mean the Koch's don't have any power either.

One person, one vote. That should be it. If you want to donate, the max you can donate is $100. I would like that. Would you? Would you like to stop guys like the Koch's and Soros from having too much power? See my friend, that is where you will stop short.

Do you like Citizens United?

Not as bad? Soros only crashed britains currency but he's all good. Lol.

Do I give a fuck about Britain? What has he done to hurt me?

Do you like Citizens United? If you would join me in an attempt to end it, you will also end Soros and Koch's power in Washington. But as usual you won't answer a question that will get you to admit the Koch's and Soros and all billionaires have too much power in our government. Maybe one day you'll realize they are why the debt is where it is, not liberals.



Turns out we don't have to pay taxes. We do so willingly. But only rich people know they don't have to pay taxes. And if poor people try it they'll go in front of a kangaroo court and be found guilty of what rich people get away with all the time.

 

[bendog]

The amount of money promised by the Koch brothers to "buy" the next election cycle, is STAGGERING.......Can anyone (with a straight face) actually state that the Kochs will not be asking for anything back from those corrupted politicans whom they'll help gain office? Thanks to the Supreme Court, the brothel that is D.C. has gotten even sleazier......
Who will benefit? Cable stations and local channels, printers, conference halls, etc.
And who will lose? Common citizens, including the right wing, ultra conservative dimwits ....
Koch brothers set 889 million budget for 2016

WASHINGTON — Top officials in the Koch brothers' political organization Monday released a staggering $889 million budget to fund the activities of the billionaires' sprawling network ahead of the 2016 presidential contest.
The budget, which pays for everything from advertising and data-gathering technology to grass-roots activism, was released to donors attending the annual winter meeting of Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce, according to an attendee.

What exactly are they buying?

Don't just say "the US government".

Tell us what they are buying and what they are going to do with it.

Well, they're buying Scott Walker for one.....You see, if you're a whore, eventually you're gonna have to pay your pimps back for placing you on that particular corner...

And what are they going to do with Scott Walker?

Rue the day. LOL

 

[LordBrownTrout]

So Koch brothers father my of had dealings with Germany and Soros himself helped deliver Jews to the Nazis, however you are only outraged at the Koch's father because his sons are libertarians and yet it is okay that Soros helped kill Jews.

This is the stupidity of the left personified.

A. I don't know that Soros did what you say he did. I hardly know who the guy is or what he does. If the right wing media wants to warn us about this guy, they're going to have to do a better job of explaining to us who he is and why he is bad for us. I don't see Soros pushing right wing radical libertarian policies.
B. The Koch brothers are very bad people. Sure they give to charities they deem worthy but they are anti middle class and anti American. Why don't you read the book? You might learn something. And I'm all ears about how Soros is the devil. Right now he seems like the boogyman for the GOP.

You are certainly a big fan of the GOP. The claws come out when I attack them. Or the rich people that own them and push the right wing agenda. Are you a libertarian or something? To be honest, I don't even know what you are other than anti Democratic.

The fact that you refuse to even look into just what kind of scumbag Soros is is very telling. As bad as you claim the Kochs to be Soros is. He has bankrupted PUBLIC EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT SYSTEMS TO MAKE HIS BILLIONS! He is far more despicable than the Kochs are and you don't care. What an asshole...

– In 1997, during the Asian financial crisis, the then Malaysian Prime Minister, Mahathir bin Mohamad, accused him of bringing down the Malaysian currency, the ringgit, through his trading activities. In Thailand he was branded an “economic war criminal” who “sucks the blood from the people”.



Soros Created ‘Abenomics’
To Suicide Japan’s Economy
Soros Created ‘Abenomics’ To Suicide Japan’s Economy

Soros is a well known supporter of progressive and liberal political causes. Between 1979 and 2015 Soros donated more than $11 billion to various philanthropic causes. He played a significant role in the peaceful transition from communism to capitalism in Eastern Europe (1984–89) and provided one of Europe's largest higher education endowments to the Central European University in Budapest.

I did a quick search and didn't see anything that made him as bad as the Koch's.

Oh, and maybe we should take money out of our politics to give guys like this less power. Do you want to do that? Because I do. But that would mean the Koch's don't have any power either.

One person, one vote. That should be it. If you want to donate, the max you can donate is $100. I would like that. Would you? Would you like to stop guys like the Koch's and Soros from having too much power? See my friend, that is where you will stop short.

Do you like Citizens United?

Not as bad? Soros only crashed britains currency but he's all good. Lol.

Do I give a fuck about Britain? What has he done to hurt me?

Do you like Citizens United? If you would join me in an attempt to end it, you will also end Soros and Koch's power in Washington. But as usual you won't answer a question that will get you to admit the Koch's and Soros and all billionaires have too much power in our government. Maybe one day you'll realize they are why the debt is where it is, not liberals.



Turns out we don't have to pay taxes. We do so willingly. But only rich people know they don't have to pay taxes. And if poor people try it they'll go in front of a kangaroo court and be found guilty of what rich people get away with all the time.

Maybe one day you'll realize........no, you never will. It's weird how you libs say its accepted law when it comes to abortion and the recent gay marriage ruling but citizens united must be overturned.

 

[sealybobo]

Republicans got their wish and have practically destroyed unions in America. So what has been accomplished? The rich got richer and the poor got poorer.

And then Rethuglicans will try to turn around and blame liberals for the inequality and try to ignore that its their policies that destroyed the middle class. And meanwhile the richest Republicans are crying about the debt all while their $1 billion is now $8 billion and USMB redumblicans are soooo worried about them.

No, the unions have done themselves in. A good friend of mine is a retired Chief Engineer from the former US maritime service. He worked for APL (look them up) and thanks to the unions he had a wonderful salary, excellent benefits, and a wonderful retirement (he makes more in one year retired than you probably will in your entire life) but he also admitted that the union had killed the American shipping industry. they so priced themselves out of competition that now the only American flagged shipping line is Matson Bros. and they are only US flagged because they have to be by law as they are part of the US Military Sealift Command.

Hundreds of shipping lines were forced out of business by the unions and their demands.

The same thing is happening in the trades. I have an acquaintance who is a union electrician. He gets very little work from his shop (San Jose) so he moved up here to Nevada where he works on non union jobs to survive. The union gives the jobs to their friends and the rest of the guys like the guy I know are left to fend for themselves on maybe three gigs in a year. That's retarded. And THAT is what has killed the unions.

I know a former union rep that was with a large transit company and he said he was forced to represent people that deserved to be fired and constantly skirted the rules because they had Union protection.

Yep. My dad worked as a truck driver for most of his life and even though he was an asshole he was a good worker. He never shirked I have to give him that much. He complained that at his trucking company there was roughly 20% of the work force who sat around and did nothing but collect a paycheck thanks to "work rules".

The union decided they were going to go on strike and the company told them they couldn't afford to pay any more. The union reps said they were lying. They went on strike and the company shut its doors the next day. Talk about a bunch of morons. Hundreds of workers without a job thanks to simple greed and stupidity.

Yea they are so stupid

45,800 Ford workers to get record profit-sharing checks - The Detroit News

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/03/opinion/reagan-vs-patco-the-strike-that-busted-unions.html?_r=0

And no coincidence as union membership declined from 35% of the US workforce to less than 10%, so has wages. So when you say unions are why companies leave the USA, you are correct because companies don't like paying good wages and Americans like making good wages.

You are really stupid with your blanket bullshit. Since you are so big on unions, which union do you work with? How much do you contribute to unions to help strengthen them.

I don't work for a union. But I do realize they brought all our wages up. Why else do you think Toyota and Honda pay highschool graduates so well in the south? FOR FEAR THEY WILL UNIONIZE. Why do you think all the companies around me in Metro Detroit paid so well for so many years? They had to keep up with what unions were paying. You may not know it but a rising tide lifts all boats.

 

[sealybobo]

A. I don't know that Soros did what you say he did. I hardly know who the guy is or what he does. If the right wing media wants to warn us about this guy, they're going to have to do a better job of explaining to us who he is and why he is bad for us. I don't see Soros pushing right wing radical libertarian policies.
B. The Koch brothers are very bad people. Sure they give to charities they deem worthy but they are anti middle class and anti American. Why don't you read the book? You might learn something. And I'm all ears about how Soros is the devil. Right now he seems like the boogyman for the GOP.

You are certainly a big fan of the GOP. The claws come out when I attack them. Or the rich people that own them and push the right wing agenda. Are you a libertarian or something? To be honest, I don't even know what you are other than anti Democratic.

The fact that you refuse to even look into just what kind of scumbag Soros is is very telling. As bad as you claim the Kochs to be Soros is. He has bankrupted PUBLIC EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT SYSTEMS TO MAKE HIS BILLIONS! He is far more despicable than the Kochs are and you don't care. What an asshole...

– In 1997, during the Asian financial crisis, the then Malaysian Prime Minister, Mahathir bin Mohamad, accused him of bringing down the Malaysian currency, the ringgit, through his trading activities. In Thailand he was branded an “economic war criminal” who “sucks the blood from the people”.



Soros Created ‘Abenomics’
To Suicide Japan’s Economy
Soros Created ‘Abenomics’ To Suicide Japan’s Economy

Soros is a well known supporter of progressive and liberal political causes. Between 1979 and 2015 Soros donated more than $11 billion to various philanthropic causes. He played a significant role in the peaceful transition from communism to capitalism in Eastern Europe (1984–89) and provided one of Europe's largest higher education endowments to the Central European University in Budapest.

I did a quick search and didn't see anything that made him as bad as the Koch's.

Oh, and maybe we should take money out of our politics to give guys like this less power. Do you want to do that? Because I do. But that would mean the Koch's don't have any power either.

One person, one vote. That should be it. If you want to donate, the max you can donate is $100. I would like that. Would you? Would you like to stop guys like the Koch's and Soros from having too much power? See my friend, that is where you will stop short.

Do you like Citizens United?

Not as bad? Soros only crashed britains currency but he's all good. Lol.

Do I give a fuck about Britain? What has he done to hurt me?

Do you like Citizens United? If you would join me in an attempt to end it, you will also end Soros and Koch's power in Washington. But as usual you won't answer a question that will get you to admit the Koch's and Soros and all billionaires have too much power in our government. Maybe one day you'll realize they are why the debt is where it is, not liberals.



Turns out we don't have to pay taxes. We do so willingly. But only rich people know they don't have to pay taxes. And if poor people try it they'll go in front of a kangaroo court and be found guilty of what rich people get away with all the time.

Maybe one day you'll realize........no, you never will. It's weird how you libs say its accepted law when it comes to abortion and the recent gay marriage ruling but citizens united must be overturned.

Then don't complain about Soro's influence in our government if you don't really want to change it. You like the status quo. That's the definition of conservative.

 

[sealybobo]

Republicans got their wish and have practically destroyed unions in America. So what has been accomplished? The rich got richer and the poor got poorer.

And then Rethuglicans will try to turn around and blame liberals for the inequality and try to ignore that its their policies that destroyed the middle class. And meanwhile the richest Republicans are crying about the debt all while their $1 billion is now $8 billion and USMB redumblicans are soooo worried about them.

No, the unions have done themselves in. A good friend of mine is a retired Chief Engineer from the former US maritime service. He worked for APL (look them up) and thanks to the unions he had a wonderful salary, excellent benefits, and a wonderful retirement (he makes more in one year retired than you probably will in your entire life) but he also admitted that the union had killed the American shipping industry. they so priced themselves out of competition that now the only American flagged shipping line is Matson Bros. and they are only US flagged because they have to be by law as they are part of the US Military Sealift Command.

Hundreds of shipping lines were forced out of business by the unions and their demands.

The same thing is happening in the trades. I have an acquaintance who is a union electrician. He gets very little work from his shop (San Jose) so he moved up here to Nevada where he works on non union jobs to survive. The union gives the jobs to their friends and the rest of the guys like the guy I know are left to fend for themselves on maybe three gigs in a year. That's retarded. And THAT is what has killed the unions.

I know a former union rep that was with a large transit company and he said he was forced to represent people that deserved to be fired and constantly skirted the rules because they had Union protection.

Yep. My dad worked as a truck driver for most of his life and even though he was an asshole he was a good worker. He never shirked I have to give him that much. He complained that at his trucking company there was roughly 20% of the work force who sat around and did nothing but collect a paycheck thanks to "work rules".

The union decided they were going to go on strike and the company told them they couldn't afford to pay any more. The union reps said they were lying. They went on strike and the company shut its doors the next day. Talk about a bunch of morons. Hundreds of workers without a job thanks to simple greed and stupidity.

Yea they are so stupid

45,800 Ford workers to get record profit-sharing checks - The Detroit News

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/03/opinion/reagan-vs-patco-the-strike-that-busted-unions.html?_r=0

And no coincidence as union membership declined from 35% of the US workforce to less than 10%, so has wages. So when you say unions are why companies leave the USA, you are correct because companies don't like paying good wages and Americans like making good wages.

You are really stupid with your blanket bullshit. Since you are so big on unions, which union do you work with? How much do you contribute to unions to help strengthen them.

Sell me on the GOP. Convince me they are the party for you and me. And please no blanket statements.

 

[Papageorgio]

No, the unions have done themselves in. A good friend of mine is a retired Chief Engineer from the former US maritime service. He worked for APL (look them up) and thanks to the unions he had a wonderful salary, excellent benefits, and a wonderful retirement (he makes more in one year retired than you probably will in your entire life) but he also admitted that the union had killed the American shipping industry. they so priced themselves out of competition that now the only American flagged shipping line is Matson Bros. and they are only US flagged because they have to be by law as they are part of the US Military Sealift Command.

Hundreds of shipping lines were forced out of business by the unions and their demands.

The same thing is happening in the trades. I have an acquaintance who is a union electrician. He gets very little work from his shop (San Jose) so he moved up here to Nevada where he works on non union jobs to survive. The union gives the jobs to their friends and the rest of the guys like the guy I know are left to fend for themselves on maybe three gigs in a year. That's retarded. And THAT is what has killed the unions.

I know a former union rep that was with a large transit company and he said he was forced to represent people that deserved to be fired and constantly skirted the rules because they had Union protection.

Yep. My dad worked as a truck driver for most of his life and even though he was an asshole he was a good worker. He never shirked I have to give him that much. He complained that at his trucking company there was roughly 20% of the work force who sat around and did nothing but collect a paycheck thanks to "work rules".

The union decided they were going to go on strike and the company told them they couldn't afford to pay any more. The union reps said they were lying. They went on strike and the company shut its doors the next day. Talk about a bunch of morons. Hundreds of workers without a job thanks to simple greed and stupidity.

Yea they are so stupid

45,800 Ford workers to get record profit-sharing checks - The Detroit News

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/03/opinion/reagan-vs-patco-the-strike-that-busted-unions.html?_r=0

And no coincidence as union membership declined from 35% of the US workforce to less than 10%, so has wages. So when you say unions are why companies leave the USA, you are correct because companies don't like paying good wages and Americans like making good wages.

You are really stupid with your blanket bullshit. Since you are so big on unions, which union do you work with? How much do you contribute to unions to help strengthen them.

I don't work for a union. But I do realize they brought all our wages up. Why else do you think Toyota and Honda pay highschool graduates so well in the south? FOR FEAR THEY WILL UNIONIZE. Why do you think all the companies around me in Metro Detroit paid so well for so many years? They had to keep up with what unions were paying. You may not know it but a rising tide lifts all boats.

So you don't go out and support a union, interesting how you champion them but won't work for one.

 

[sealybobo]

Boogeyman alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Turns out when Citizens United was passed, none of the Republicans I talked to even knew what it was. The GOP snuck that shit in and the fact no one knew what it even was proves the media sure aint liberal.

 

[westwall]

Soros isn't pushing right wing libertarian policies last I checked. It is that which I object to. And do you have a link to soror saying that?

So Koch brothers father my of had dealings with Germany and Soros himself helped deliver Jews to the Nazis, however you are only outraged at the Koch's father because his sons are libertarians and yet it is okay that Soros helped kill Jews.

This is the stupidity of the left personified.

A. I don't know that Soros did what you say he did. I hardly know who the guy is or what he does. If the right wing media wants to warn us about this guy, they're going to have to do a better job of explaining to us who he is and why he is bad for us. I don't see Soros pushing right wing radical libertarian policies.
B. The Koch brothers are very bad people. Sure they give to charities they deem worthy but they are anti middle class and anti American. Why don't you read the book? You might learn something. And I'm all ears about how Soros is the devil. Right now he seems like the boogyman for the GOP.

You are certainly a big fan of the GOP. The claws come out when I attack them. Or the rich people that own them and push the right wing agenda. Are you a libertarian or something? To be honest, I don't even know what you are other than anti Democratic.

The fact that you refuse to even look into just what kind of scumbag Soros is is very telling. As bad as you claim the Kochs to be Soros is. He has bankrupted PUBLIC EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT SYSTEMS TO MAKE HIS BILLIONS! He is far more despicable than the Kochs are and you don't care. What an asshole...

– In 1997, during the Asian financial crisis, the then Malaysian Prime Minister, Mahathir bin Mohamad, accused him of bringing down the Malaysian currency, the ringgit, through his trading activities. In Thailand he was branded an “economic war criminal” who “sucks the blood from the people”.



Soros Created ‘Abenomics’
To Suicide Japan’s Economy
Soros Created ‘Abenomics’ To Suicide Japan’s Economy

Soros is a well known supporter of progressive and liberal political causes. Between 1979 and 2015 Soros donated more than $11 billion to various philanthropic causes. He played a significant role in the peaceful transition from communism to capitalism in Eastern Europe (1984–89) and provided one of Europe's largest higher education endowments to the Central European University in Budapest.

I did a quick search and didn't see anything that made him as bad as the Koch's.

Oh, and maybe we should take money out of our politics to give guys like this less power. Do you want to do that? Because I do. But that would mean the Koch's don't have any power either.

One person, one vote. That should be it. If you want to donate, the max you can donate is $100. I would like that. Would you? Would you like to stop guys like the Koch's and Soros from having too much power? See my friend, that is where you will stop short.

Do you like Citizens United?

Not as bad? Soros only crashed britains currency but he's all good. Lol.

And fucked over the people of Malaysia who's retirement programs he stole. Naaaah, he's a GREAT guy. The willful ignorance of the progressives is astonishing.

 

[Papageorgio]

No, the unions have done themselves in. A good friend of mine is a retired Chief Engineer from the former US maritime service. He worked for APL (look them up) and thanks to the unions he had a wonderful salary, excellent benefits, and a wonderful retirement (he makes more in one year retired than you probably will in your entire life) but he also admitted that the union had killed the American shipping industry. they so priced themselves out of competition that now the only American flagged shipping line is Matson Bros. and they are only US flagged because they have to be by law as they are part of the US Military Sealift Command.

Hundreds of shipping lines were forced out of business by the unions and their demands.

The same thing is happening in the trades. I have an acquaintance who is a union electrician. He gets very little work from his shop (San Jose) so he moved up here to Nevada where he works on non union jobs to survive. The union gives the jobs to their friends and the rest of the guys like the guy I know are left to fend for themselves on maybe three gigs in a year. That's retarded. And THAT is what has killed the unions.

I know a former union rep that was with a large transit company and he said he was forced to represent people that deserved to be fired and constantly skirted the rules because they had Union protection.

Yep. My dad worked as a truck driver for most of his life and even though he was an asshole he was a good worker. He never shirked I have to give him that much. He complained that at his trucking company there was roughly 20% of the work force who sat around and did nothing but collect a paycheck thanks to "work rules".

The union decided they were going to go on strike and the company told them they couldn't afford to pay any more. The union reps said they were lying. They went on strike and the company shut its doors the next day. Talk about a bunch of morons. Hundreds of workers without a job thanks to simple greed and stupidity.

Yea they are so stupid

45,800 Ford workers to get record profit-sharing checks - The Detroit News

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/03/opinion/reagan-vs-patco-the-strike-that-busted-unions.html?_r=0

And no coincidence as union membership declined from 35% of the US workforce to less than 10%, so has wages. So when you say unions are why companies leave the USA, you are correct because companies don't like paying good wages and Americans like making good wages.

You are really stupid with your blanket bullshit. Since you are so big on unions, which union do you work with? How much do you contribute to unions to help strengthen them.

Sell me on the GOP. Convince me they are the party for you and me. And please no blanket statements.

You use blanket statements but don't want other to. More of the liberal hypocrisy. Why do you expect others to except your double standards?

 

[sealybobo]

I know a former union rep that was with a large transit company and he said he was forced to represent people that deserved to be fired and constantly skirted the rules because they had Union protection.

Yep. My dad worked as a truck driver for most of his life and even though he was an asshole he was a good worker. He never shirked I have to give him that much. He complained that at his trucking company there was roughly 20% of the work force who sat around and did nothing but collect a paycheck thanks to "work rules".

The union decided they were going to go on strike and the company told them they couldn't afford to pay any more. The union reps said they were lying. They went on strike and the company shut its doors the next day. Talk about a bunch of morons. Hundreds of workers without a job thanks to simple greed and stupidity.

Yea they are so stupid

45,800 Ford workers to get record profit-sharing checks - The Detroit News

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/03/opinion/reagan-vs-patco-the-strike-that-busted-unions.html?_r=0

And no coincidence as union membership declined from 35% of the US workforce to less than 10%, so has wages. So when you say unions are why companies leave the USA, you are correct because companies don't like paying good wages and Americans like making good wages.

You are really stupid with your blanket bullshit. Since you are so big on unions, which union do you work with? How much do you contribute to unions to help strengthen them.

I don't work for a union. But I do realize they brought all our wages up. Why else do you think Toyota and Honda pay highschool graduates so well in the south? FOR FEAR THEY WILL UNIONIZE. Why do you think all the companies around me in Metro Detroit paid so well for so many years? They had to keep up with what unions were paying. You may not know it but a rising tide lifts all boats.

So you don't go out and support a union, interesting how you champion them but won't work for one.

I would have loved to find a company that was a union. If you only knew the horrible companies I've worked for that should have been unionized. Unfortunately unions in America are all but dead. Only the UAW has any power really and other than them labor has no voice. Who lobbys for the middle class in Washington besides the unions? The unions keep the Democrats honest.

And don't say the Democrats let the unions down because the Unions let the Democrats down. They voted in Rick Snyder and Rick snyder made Michigan a right to work state. So the union workers get what they deserve. So do the American people when 50% of them don't even vote. I'm doing just fine. In fact I'm doing great. Just like Soros I care. The kocks care too but only about themselves.

I don't want to hear about what Soros did to England. What harm has he done to the American middle class? Give examples.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The fact that you refuse to even look into just what kind of scumbag Soros is is very telling. As bad as you claim the Kochs to be Soros is. He has bankrupted PUBLIC EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT SYSTEMS TO MAKE HIS BILLIONS! He is far more despicable than the Kochs are and you don't care. What an asshole...

– In 1997, during the Asian financial crisis, the then Malaysian Prime Minister, Mahathir bin Mohamad, accused him of bringing down the Malaysian currency, the ringgit, through his trading activities. In Thailand he was branded an “economic war criminal” who “sucks the blood from the people”.



Soros Created ‘Abenomics’
To Suicide Japan’s Economy
Soros Created ‘Abenomics’ To Suicide Japan’s Economy

Soros is a well known supporter of progressive and liberal political causes. Between 1979 and 2015 Soros donated more than $11 billion to various philanthropic causes. He played a significant role in the peaceful transition from communism to capitalism in Eastern Europe (1984–89) and provided one of Europe's largest higher education endowments to the Central European University in Budapest.

I did a quick search and didn't see anything that made him as bad as the Koch's.

Oh, and maybe we should take money out of our politics to give guys like this less power. Do you want to do that? Because I do. But that would mean the Koch's don't have any power either.

One person, one vote. That should be it. If you want to donate, the max you can donate is $100. I would like that. Would you? Would you like to stop guys like the Koch's and Soros from having too much power? See my friend, that is where you will stop short.

Do you like Citizens United?

Not as bad? Soros only crashed britains currency but he's all good. Lol.

Do I give a fuck about Britain? What has he done to hurt me?

Do you like Citizens United? If you would join me in an attempt to end it, you will also end Soros and Koch's power in Washington. But as usual you won't answer a question that will get you to admit the Koch's and Soros and all billionaires have too much power in our government. Maybe one day you'll realize they are why the debt is where it is, not liberals.



Turns out we don't have to pay taxes. We do so willingly. But only rich people know they don't have to pay taxes. And if poor people try it they'll go in front of a kangaroo court and be found guilty of what rich people get away with all the time.

Maybe one day you'll realize........no, you never will. It's weird how you libs say its accepted law when it comes to abortion and the recent gay marriage ruling but citizens united must be overturned.

Then don't complain about Soro's influence in our government if you don't really want to change it. You like the status quo. That's the definition of conservative.

Where is soros influencing our govt?

 

[westwall]

Boogeyman alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Turns out when Citizens United was passed, none of the Republicans I talked to even knew what it was. The GOP snuck that shit in and the fact no one knew what it even was proves the media sure aint liberal.

I don't like Citizens United. Nor did I like the fact that the unions could propagandize their causes without interference. I am fully in favor of eliminating CU, but I also would demand that the unions not be allowed to do the exact same thing. CU was the corporate response to the unions and their constant attack on them.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Yep. My dad worked as a truck driver for most of his life and even though he was an asshole he was a good worker. He never shirked I have to give him that much. He complained that at his trucking company there was roughly 20% of the work force who sat around and did nothing but collect a paycheck thanks to "work rules".

The union decided they were going to go on strike and the company told them they couldn't afford to pay any more. The union reps said they were lying. They went on strike and the company shut its doors the next day. Talk about a bunch of morons. Hundreds of workers without a job thanks to simple greed and stupidity.

Yea they are so stupid

45,800 Ford workers to get record profit-sharing checks - The Detroit News

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/03/opinion/reagan-vs-patco-the-strike-that-busted-unions.html?_r=0

And no coincidence as union membership declined from 35% of the US workforce to less than 10%, so has wages. So when you say unions are why companies leave the USA, you are correct because companies don't like paying good wages and Americans like making good wages.

You are really stupid with your blanket bullshit. Since you are so big on unions, which union do you work with? How much do you contribute to unions to help strengthen them.

I don't work for a union. But I do realize they brought all our wages up. Why else do you think Toyota and Honda pay highschool graduates so well in the south? FOR FEAR THEY WILL UNIONIZE. Why do you think all the companies around me in Metro Detroit paid so well for so many years? They had to keep up with what unions were paying. You may not know it but a rising tide lifts all boats.

So you don't go out and support a union, interesting how you champion them but won't work for one.

I would have loved to find a company that was a union. If you only knew the horrible companies I've worked for that should have been unionized. Unfortunately unions in America are all but dead. Only the UAW has any power really and other than them labor has no voice. Who lobbys for the middle class in Washington besides the unions? The unions keep the Democrats honest.

And don't say the Democrats let the unions down because the Unions let the Democrats down. They voted in Rick Snyder and Rick snyder made Michigan a right to work state. So the union workers get what they deserve. So do the American people when 50% of them don't even vote. I'm doing just fine. In fact I'm doing great. Just like Soros I care. The kocks care too but only about themselves.

I don't want to hear about what Soros did to England. What harm has he done to the American middle class? Give examples.

Lol. Just like you, soros doesn't care. Just a minute ago you said he was having bad affects on our govt.