U.S. intel report identifies Russians who gave emails to WikiLeaks -officials

U.S. intel report identifies Russians who gave emails to WikiLeaks -officials

In some cases, one official said, the material followed what was called “a circuitous route” from the GRU, Russia’s military intelligence agency, to WikiLeaks in an apparent attempt to make the origins of the material harder to trace, a common practice used by all intelligence agencies, including U.S. ones.

These handoffs, the officials said, enabled WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to say the Russian government or state agencies were not the source of the material published on his website.


U.S. intel report identifies Russians who gave emails to WikiLeaks -officials

Time for Trump to wake up and stop playing the dog and pony show.

Matthew
And how does any of this change the fact
where the SOURCE of the ORIGINAL CONTENT of the leaked emails came from?

Had anyone ALTERED the content, you might have an argument this manipulated the
election campaign beyond the fault of the people exposed.

Why is all the focus on the source of the leak
and not on the SOURCE OF THE CONTENT!!!

Or the fact that the Reuters story above says that BY OCTOBER -- it became clear to (apparently US Intel) -- but the FBI INFORMED the DNC that they were being probed almost SIX MONTHS before that !!!!!

It's awfully hard to recreate a chain of custody for the purloined data if the crime happened that long ago. Unless -- we've got wires into every nook and cranny of Russia and can play back 4 or 7 month old intel intercepts.

That's just it... CrowdStrike said they were called and started tracking the malware for months to see where it was sending the data. They knew it was there and didn't stop it, just so they could track it. They worked to get more information and not just jump the gun.

CrowdStrike was the group who said it DID not originate in the GRU.. Maybe those 2 bears were outside contractors.. But NO Intel Agency is gonna burn it's valuable sources and methods. And if Cozy and Fancy's fingerprints were the ones on it -- the GRU would NEVER compromise them as assets.

More likely Cozy and Fancy smells lots of Yankee Dollars for that information and found their OWN buyers.
Which would piss off the Russians like Snowden pissed off Clapper. Made a outright LIAR out of the clown didn't he?

Since when did CrowdStrike say that the GRU wasn't part of it? Everything I've seen said they did. Every single piece I've seen about CrowdStrike talking about this, have said the GRU was active in the hack.
 
But a pro USA patriot. See how that works.

If you're OK with Russia interfering in our election, but don't care because it was your candidate that won, you are far from patriotic and a pig.







How did they interfere? By exposing the corrupt Democrat Party for the despicable swine they were? There was no hacking of voting machines so you're just pissed off that the shrilary was exposed as a scumbag. What does that make you?

The right was thrilled with every bit of information that was released. Are you going to try to pretend that information had no effect on the election? If so, you're either stupid, or want to be seen as stupid.







Why don't you take it up with your candidate who was so fucking arrogant and stupid that she decided to use an unsecured server so she could avoid the FOIA laws of this country. Take it up with a aid of hers who was so stupid that he fell for a phishing scheme that my 10 year old daughter wouldn't fall for. The one thing that the release of the emails showed was that she was even less qualified to lead this country than the trumpster was.

I don't like what Clinton did one bit... but by your reasoning, you would blame a woman for getting raped because she was walking alone late at night. I'm sorry, but that's not how the world works.

Sorry, but there is no moral equivalency to a woman being raped (a violent act!) and an email being hacked. This is why nobody takes you LWNJ's seriously........
 
But a pro USA patriot. See how that works.

If you're OK with Russia interfering in our election, but don't care because it was your candidate that won, you are far from patriotic and a pig.







How did they interfere? By exposing the corrupt Democrat Party for the despicable swine they were? There was no hacking of voting machines so you're just pissed off that the shrilary was exposed as a scumbag. What does that make you?

The right was thrilled with every bit of information that was released. Are you going to try to pretend that information had no effect on the election? If so, you're either stupid, or want to be seen as stupid.







Why don't you take it up with your candidate who was so fucking arrogant and stupid that she decided to use an unsecured server so she could avoid the FOIA laws of this country. Take it up with a aid of hers who was so stupid that he fell for a phishing scheme that my 10 year old daughter wouldn't fall for. The one thing that the release of the emails showed was that she was even less qualified to lead this country than the trumpster was.

You're floundering there kid. We're talking about Russia interfering in our elections, and your willingness to ignore that because your orange clown won. Why are you running from the subject of our conversation? Coward?








I'm not running from anything dipshit. It's you who are the one doing the shukin and jivin. You still haven't showed us how the evil russkis affected the election. It was pretty obvious that the shrilary bots couldn't care less the evil shit she was doing, and the trump bots were likewise immune to anything negative about him. So I am waiting for you to tell us who was affected by the email releases.
 
But a pro USA patriot. See how that works.

If you're OK with Russia interfering in our election, but don't care because it was your candidate that won, you are far from patriotic and a pig.







How did they interfere? By exposing the corrupt Democrat Party for the despicable swine they were? There was no hacking of voting machines so you're just pissed off that the shrilary was exposed as a scumbag. What does that make you?

The right was thrilled with every bit of information that was released. Are you going to try to pretend that information had no effect on the election? If so, you're either stupid, or want to be seen as stupid.







Why don't you take it up with your candidate who was so fucking arrogant and stupid that she decided to use an unsecured server so she could avoid the FOIA laws of this country. Take it up with a aid of hers who was so stupid that he fell for a phishing scheme that my 10 year old daughter wouldn't fall for. The one thing that the release of the emails showed was that she was even less qualified to lead this country than the trumpster was.

I don't like what Clinton did one bit... but by your reasoning, you would blame a woman for getting raped because she was walking alone late at night. I'm sorry, but that's not how the world works.





That is the most ridiculous and stupid thing I think I have seen you write. You might want to rethink that line of "reasoning".
 
If you're OK with Russia interfering in our election, but don't care because it was your candidate that won, you are far from patriotic and a pig.







How did they interfere? By exposing the corrupt Democrat Party for the despicable swine they were? There was no hacking of voting machines so you're just pissed off that the shrilary was exposed as a scumbag. What does that make you?

The right was thrilled with every bit of information that was released. Are you going to try to pretend that information had no effect on the election? If so, you're either stupid, or want to be seen as stupid.







Why don't you take it up with your candidate who was so fucking arrogant and stupid that she decided to use an unsecured server so she could avoid the FOIA laws of this country. Take it up with a aid of hers who was so stupid that he fell for a phishing scheme that my 10 year old daughter wouldn't fall for. The one thing that the release of the emails showed was that she was even less qualified to lead this country than the trumpster was.

I don't like what Clinton did one bit... but by your reasoning, you would blame a woman for getting raped because she was walking alone late at night. I'm sorry, but that's not how the world works.

Sorry, but there is no moral equivalency to a woman being raped (a violent act!) and an email being hacked. This is why nobody takes you LWNJ's seriously........

Yes... the analogy does work. You don't blame the victim based on their own actions. Victim blaming is soooo Republican. Again, part of why I broke away from the Republican party.
 
Boogie , Russians ,Sunshine :mm: LOL:lmao:




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U.S. intel report identifies Russians who gave emails to WikiLeaks -officials

In some cases, one official said, the material followed what was called “a circuitous route” from the GRU, Russia’s military intelligence agency, to WikiLeaks in an apparent attempt to make the origins of the material harder to trace, a common practice used by all intelligence agencies, including U.S. ones.

These handoffs, the officials said, enabled WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to say the Russian government or state agencies were not the source of the material published on his website.


U.S. intel report identifies Russians who gave emails to WikiLeaks -officials

Time for Trump to wake up and stop playing the dog and pony show.

Matthew
And how does any of this change the fact
where the SOURCE of the ORIGINAL CONTENT of the leaked emails came from?

Had anyone ALTERED the content, you might have an argument this manipulated the
election campaign beyond the fault of the people exposed.

Why is all the focus on the source of the leak
and not on the SOURCE OF THE CONTENT!!!

Or the fact that the Reuters story above says that BY OCTOBER -- it became clear to (apparently US Intel) -- but the FBI INFORMED the DNC that they were being probed almost SIX MONTHS before that !!!!!

It's awfully hard to recreate a chain of custody for the purloined data if the crime happened that long ago. Unless -- we've got wires into every nook and cranny of Russia and can play back 4 or 7 month old intel intercepts.

You're grabbing at straws there junior.

The hell I am. How do you reconstruct a "circuitous route" of custody from the GRU to Wikileaks 6 months AFTER the deeds? If congresscritters were SMART enough to ask that question (or the Giant Cheeto) , this little charade would be over by now..

Now if they assigned ASSETS to follow this trail back THEN -- why did the US not take measures to stop the release. There was a last minute effort to shut Assange up about 2 weeks before the election, but prior to that -- NOTHING..

And that conflicts with the initial assessment by the private agency that worked with FBI. Which laid the finger on CozyBear and FancyBear OUTSIDE the GRU as the most likely suspects.

I'm not familiar with any private agency that worked with them, and don't really care about them, but every US security agency says it happened. You really think saying a crime 6 months old is too old to find out what happened is rational? I figured your reasoning ability was better than that.
 
If you're OK with Russia interfering in our election, but don't care because it was your candidate that won, you are far from patriotic and a pig.







How did they interfere? By exposing the corrupt Democrat Party for the despicable swine they were? There was no hacking of voting machines so you're just pissed off that the shrilary was exposed as a scumbag. What does that make you?

The right was thrilled with every bit of information that was released. Are you going to try to pretend that information had no effect on the election? If so, you're either stupid, or want to be seen as stupid.







Why don't you take it up with your candidate who was so fucking arrogant and stupid that she decided to use an unsecured server so she could avoid the FOIA laws of this country. Take it up with a aid of hers who was so stupid that he fell for a phishing scheme that my 10 year old daughter wouldn't fall for. The one thing that the release of the emails showed was that she was even less qualified to lead this country than the trumpster was.

I don't like what Clinton did one bit... but by your reasoning, you would blame a woman for getting raped because she was walking alone late at night. I'm sorry, but that's not how the world works.





That is the most ridiculous and stupid thing I think I have seen you write. You might want to rethink that line of "reasoning".

It is EXACTLY what you are saying. You are victim blaming.
 
If you're OK with Russia interfering in our election, but don't care because it was your candidate that won, you are far from patriotic and a pig.







How did they interfere? By exposing the corrupt Democrat Party for the despicable swine they were? There was no hacking of voting machines so you're just pissed off that the shrilary was exposed as a scumbag. What does that make you?

The right was thrilled with every bit of information that was released. Are you going to try to pretend that information had no effect on the election? If so, you're either stupid, or want to be seen as stupid.







Why don't you take it up with your candidate who was so fucking arrogant and stupid that she decided to use an unsecured server so she could avoid the FOIA laws of this country. Take it up with a aid of hers who was so stupid that he fell for a phishing scheme that my 10 year old daughter wouldn't fall for. The one thing that the release of the emails showed was that she was even less qualified to lead this country than the trumpster was.

You're floundering there kid. We're talking about Russia interfering in our elections, and your willingness to ignore that because your orange clown won. Why are you running from the subject of our conversation? Coward?








I'm not running from anything dipshit. It's you who are the one doing the shukin and jivin. You still haven't showed us how the evil russkis affected the election. It was pretty obvious that the shrilary bots couldn't care less the evil shit she was doing, and the trump bots were likewise immune to anything negative about him. So I am waiting for you to tell us who was affected by the email releases.

Do you think Russia interfered in our election, and if so, do you think it had any effect?
 
U.S. intel report identifies Russians who gave emails to WikiLeaks -officials

In some cases, one official said, the material followed what was called “a circuitous route” from the GRU, Russia’s military intelligence agency, to WikiLeaks in an apparent attempt to make the origins of the material harder to trace, a common practice used by all intelligence agencies, including U.S. ones.

These handoffs, the officials said, enabled WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to say the Russian government or state agencies were not the source of the material published on his website.


U.S. intel report identifies Russians who gave emails to WikiLeaks -officials

Time for Trump to wake up and stop playing the dog and pony show.

Matthew
And how does any of this change the fact
where the SOURCE of the ORIGINAL CONTENT of the leaked emails came from?

Had anyone ALTERED the content, you might have an argument this manipulated the
election campaign beyond the fault of the people exposed.

Why is all the focus on the source of the leak
and not on the SOURCE OF THE CONTENT!!!

Or the fact that the Reuters story above says that BY OCTOBER -- it became clear to (apparently US Intel) -- but the FBI INFORMED the DNC that they were being probed almost SIX MONTHS before that !!!!!

It's awfully hard to recreate a chain of custody for the purloined data if the crime happened that long ago. Unless -- we've got wires into every nook and cranny of Russia and can play back 4 or 7 month old intel intercepts.

You're grabbing at straws there junior.

The hell I am. How do you reconstruct a "circuitous route" of custody from the GRU to Wikileaks 6 months AFTER the deeds? If congresscritters were SMART enough to ask that question (or the Giant Cheeto) , this little charade would be over by now..

Now if they assigned ASSETS to follow this trail back THEN -- why did the US not take measures to stop the release. There was a last minute effort to shut Assange up about 2 weeks before the election, but prior to that -- NOTHING..

And that conflicts with the initial assessment by the private agency that worked with FBI. Which laid the finger on CozyBear and FancyBear OUTSIDE the GRU as the most likely suspects.

How do you know they didn't track them at the time it happened? What did you expect them to do to stop it? Assassinate the delivery guy? Cause war during the election?

A phone call indicating that we KNEW the material was in Russian hands would be all that's neccessary.

Actually, I'll tell you why there was not active countermeasures. Because this type of data probing is what the world Intel Agencies do. And it's not suspicious at all. Because NO agency wants it's sources and methods tracked and therefore the info is KEPT to be used as "blackmail" or "leverage" in random future negotiations.

But if all those Monday Morning Quarterbacks at the head of the Intel Agencies KNEW that GRU and the KREMLIN had intent to influence to the elections back last June or July ---- they failed in assessing the need to intervene.
 
How did they interfere? By exposing the corrupt Democrat Party for the despicable swine they were? There was no hacking of voting machines so you're just pissed off that the shrilary was exposed as a scumbag. What does that make you?

The right was thrilled with every bit of information that was released. Are you going to try to pretend that information had no effect on the election? If so, you're either stupid, or want to be seen as stupid.







Why don't you take it up with your candidate who was so fucking arrogant and stupid that she decided to use an unsecured server so she could avoid the FOIA laws of this country. Take it up with a aid of hers who was so stupid that he fell for a phishing scheme that my 10 year old daughter wouldn't fall for. The one thing that the release of the emails showed was that she was even less qualified to lead this country than the trumpster was.

I don't like what Clinton did one bit... but by your reasoning, you would blame a woman for getting raped because she was walking alone late at night. I'm sorry, but that's not how the world works.

Sorry, but there is no moral equivalency to a woman being raped (a violent act!) and an email being hacked. This is why nobody takes you LWNJ's seriously........

Yes... the analogy does work. You don't blame the victim based on their own actions. Victim blaming is soooo Republican. Again, part of why I broke away from the Republican party.




Wrong, this is a far more accurate analog, a person go's into drug dealing because they want to make a quick buck, and they decide to take over a rival drug dealers territory only to be shot dead when that dealer defends his space. The victim in this case was actively engaged in criminal behavior that lead to their death. That is a far more accurate analog to the BS that the shrilary was doing.

Get your facts and your analogies straight.
 
How did they interfere? By exposing the corrupt Democrat Party for the despicable swine they were? There was no hacking of voting machines so you're just pissed off that the shrilary was exposed as a scumbag. What does that make you?

The right was thrilled with every bit of information that was released. Are you going to try to pretend that information had no effect on the election? If so, you're either stupid, or want to be seen as stupid.







Why don't you take it up with your candidate who was so fucking arrogant and stupid that she decided to use an unsecured server so she could avoid the FOIA laws of this country. Take it up with a aid of hers who was so stupid that he fell for a phishing scheme that my 10 year old daughter wouldn't fall for. The one thing that the release of the emails showed was that she was even less qualified to lead this country than the trumpster was.

You're floundering there kid. We're talking about Russia interfering in our elections, and your willingness to ignore that because your orange clown won. Why are you running from the subject of our conversation? Coward?








I'm not running from anything dipshit. It's you who are the one doing the shukin and jivin. You still haven't showed us how the evil russkis affected the election. It was pretty obvious that the shrilary bots couldn't care less the evil shit she was doing, and the trump bots were likewise immune to anything negative about him. So I am waiting for you to tell us who was affected by the email releases.

Do you think Russia interfered in our election, and if so, do you think it had any effect?




No.
 
Frankly...the loony left are the worst losers ever.

Just too funny
 
Matthew
And how does any of this change the fact
where the SOURCE of the ORIGINAL CONTENT of the leaked emails came from?

Had anyone ALTERED the content, you might have an argument this manipulated the
election campaign beyond the fault of the people exposed.

Why is all the focus on the source of the leak
and not on the SOURCE OF THE CONTENT!!!

Or the fact that the Reuters story above says that BY OCTOBER -- it became clear to (apparently US Intel) -- but the FBI INFORMED the DNC that they were being probed almost SIX MONTHS before that !!!!!

It's awfully hard to recreate a chain of custody for the purloined data if the crime happened that long ago. Unless -- we've got wires into every nook and cranny of Russia and can play back 4 or 7 month old intel intercepts.

You're grabbing at straws there junior.

The hell I am. How do you reconstruct a "circuitous route" of custody from the GRU to Wikileaks 6 months AFTER the deeds? If congresscritters were SMART enough to ask that question (or the Giant Cheeto) , this little charade would be over by now..

Now if they assigned ASSETS to follow this trail back THEN -- why did the US not take measures to stop the release. There was a last minute effort to shut Assange up about 2 weeks before the election, but prior to that -- NOTHING..

And that conflicts with the initial assessment by the private agency that worked with FBI. Which laid the finger on CozyBear and FancyBear OUTSIDE the GRU as the most likely suspects.

How do you know they didn't track them at the time it happened? What did you expect them to do to stop it? Assassinate the delivery guy? Cause war during the election?

A phone call indicating that we KNEW the material was in Russian hands would be all that's neccessary.

Actually, I'll tell you why there was not active countermeasures. Because this type of data probing is what the world Intel Agencies do. And it's not suspicious at all. Because NO agency wants it's sources and methods tracked and therefore the info is KEPT to be used as "blackmail" or "leverage" in random future negotiations.

But if all those Monday Morning Quarterbacks at the head of the Intel Agencies KNEW that GRU and the KREMLIN had intent to influence to the elections back last June or July ---- they failed in assessing the need to intervene.

Again, what did you expect them to do? What could they do to intervene? Hell now they are coming forward and everyone says they are full of shit and lying. If they came out before the election everyone would have just said Obama was having them do it to try and help Hillary win and that it was all a lie... what did you expect them to do???

What they did do, was find out what was hacked, and then sit back and gather as much information as possible to build a strong case to be used.
 
U.S. intel report identifies Russians who gave emails to WikiLeaks -officials

In some cases, one official said, the material followed what was called “a circuitous route” from the GRU, Russia’s military intelligence agency, to WikiLeaks in an apparent attempt to make the origins of the material harder to trace, a common practice used by all intelligence agencies, including U.S. ones.

These handoffs, the officials said, enabled WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to say the Russian government or state agencies were not the source of the material published on his website.


U.S. intel report identifies Russians who gave emails to WikiLeaks -officials

Time for Trump to wake up and stop playing the dog and pony show.

Matthew
And how does any of this change the fact
where the SOURCE of the ORIGINAL CONTENT of the leaked emails came from?

Had anyone ALTERED the content, you might have an argument this manipulated the
election campaign beyond the fault of the people exposed.

Why is all the focus on the source of the leak
and not on the SOURCE OF THE CONTENT!!!

Or the fact that the Reuters story above says that BY OCTOBER -- it became clear to (apparently US Intel) -- but the FBI INFORMED the DNC that they were being probed almost SIX MONTHS before that !!!!!

It's awfully hard to recreate a chain of custody for the purloined data if the crime happened that long ago. Unless -- we've got wires into every nook and cranny of Russia and can play back 4 or 7 month old intel intercepts.

You're grabbing at straws there junior.

The hell I am. How do you reconstruct a "circuitous route" of custody from the GRU to Wikileaks 6 months AFTER the deeds? If congresscritters were SMART enough to ask that question (or the Giant Cheeto) , this little charade would be over by now..

Now if they assigned ASSETS to follow this trail back THEN -- why did the US not take measures to stop the release. There was a last minute effort to shut Assange up about 2 weeks before the election, but prior to that -- NOTHING..

And that conflicts with the initial assessment by the private agency that worked with FBI. Which laid the finger on CozyBear and FancyBear OUTSIDE the GRU as the most likely suspects.

I'm not familiar with any private agency that worked with them, and don't really care about them, but every US security agency says it happened. You really think saying a crime 6 months old is too old to find out what happened is rational? I figured your reasoning ability was better than that.

You NEED to be concerned if you want to understand the vague and sketchy crap that the public will be allowed to know. It CONTRADICTS the initial assumptions about who actually HACKED the DNC to say the material originated in the GRU.

And STILL --- I haven't heard a WORD about the more damaging hack of Podesta's phone. Which was an AMATEUR hour event at best. Did THAT info travel "circuitously from the GRU" to Wikileaks as well. Or is that just an impression that Clapper and crew want the media to assume?
 
The right was thrilled with every bit of information that was released. Are you going to try to pretend that information had no effect on the election? If so, you're either stupid, or want to be seen as stupid.







Why don't you take it up with your candidate who was so fucking arrogant and stupid that she decided to use an unsecured server so she could avoid the FOIA laws of this country. Take it up with a aid of hers who was so stupid that he fell for a phishing scheme that my 10 year old daughter wouldn't fall for. The one thing that the release of the emails showed was that she was even less qualified to lead this country than the trumpster was.

I don't like what Clinton did one bit... but by your reasoning, you would blame a woman for getting raped because she was walking alone late at night. I'm sorry, but that's not how the world works.

Sorry, but there is no moral equivalency to a woman being raped (a violent act!) and an email being hacked. This is why nobody takes you LWNJ's seriously........

Yes... the analogy does work. You don't blame the victim based on their own actions. Victim blaming is soooo Republican. Again, part of why I broke away from the Republican party.




Wrong, this is a far more accurate analog, a person go's into drug dealing because they want to make a quick buck, and they decide to take over a rival drug dealers territory only to be shot dead when that dealer defends his space. The victim in this case was actively engaged in criminal behavior that lead to their death. That is a far more accurate analog to the BS that the shrilary was doing.

Get your facts and your analogies straight.

No, that is NOT a good analogy. You said yourself... they were being over confident and stupid and arrogant. So here...

A girl goes out and gets stumbling drunk and then ends up going home with some strange guy and gets raped... so it's the girls fault for being irresponsible and getting too drunk? Victim blaming... stop. Just stop giving the Russians a pass.
 
U.S. intel report identifies Russians who gave emails to WikiLeaks -officials

In some cases, one official said, the material followed what was called “a circuitous route” from the GRU, Russia’s military intelligence agency, to WikiLeaks in an apparent attempt to make the origins of the material harder to trace, a common practice used by all intelligence agencies, including U.S. ones.

These handoffs, the officials said, enabled WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to say the Russian government or state agencies were not the source of the material published on his website.


U.S. intel report identifies Russians who gave emails to WikiLeaks -officials

Time for Trump to wake up and stop playing the dog and pony show.

Matthew
And how does any of this change the fact
where the SOURCE of the ORIGINAL CONTENT of the leaked emails came from?

Had anyone ALTERED the content, you might have an argument this manipulated the
election campaign beyond the fault of the people exposed.

Why is all the focus on the source of the leak
and not on the SOURCE OF THE CONTENT!!!

Or the fact that the Reuters story above says that BY OCTOBER -- it became clear to (apparently US Intel) -- but the FBI INFORMED the DNC that they were being probed almost SIX MONTHS before that !!!!!

It's awfully hard to recreate a chain of custody for the purloined data if the crime happened that long ago. Unless -- we've got wires into every nook and cranny of Russia and can play back 4 or 7 month old intel intercepts.

That's just it... CrowdStrike said they were called and started tracking the malware for months to see where it was sending the data. They knew it was there and didn't stop it, just so they could track it. They worked to get more information and not just jump the gun.

CrowdStrike was the group who said it DID not originate in the GRU.. Maybe those 2 bears were outside contractors.. But NO Intel Agency is gonna burn it's valuable sources and methods. And if Cozy and Fancy's fingerprints were the ones on it -- the GRU would NEVER compromise them as assets.

More likely Cozy and Fancy smells lots of Yankee Dollars for that information and found their OWN buyers.
Which would piss off the Russians like Snowden pissed off Clapper. Made a outright LIAR out of the clown didn't he?

I'm amazed that a keyboard warrior such as yourself is better able to figure out what happened better than very security agency we have can. Do you think Russia interfered in our elections, and if so, do you think that is OK?
 
Or the fact that the Reuters story above says that BY OCTOBER -- it became clear to (apparently US Intel) -- but the FBI INFORMED the DNC that they were being probed almost SIX MONTHS before that !!!!!

It's awfully hard to recreate a chain of custody for the purloined data if the crime happened that long ago. Unless -- we've got wires into every nook and cranny of Russia and can play back 4 or 7 month old intel intercepts.

You're grabbing at straws there junior.

The hell I am. How do you reconstruct a "circuitous route" of custody from the GRU to Wikileaks 6 months AFTER the deeds? If congresscritters were SMART enough to ask that question (or the Giant Cheeto) , this little charade would be over by now..

Now if they assigned ASSETS to follow this trail back THEN -- why did the US not take measures to stop the release. There was a last minute effort to shut Assange up about 2 weeks before the election, but prior to that -- NOTHING..

And that conflicts with the initial assessment by the private agency that worked with FBI. Which laid the finger on CozyBear and FancyBear OUTSIDE the GRU as the most likely suspects.

How do you know they didn't track them at the time it happened? What did you expect them to do to stop it? Assassinate the delivery guy? Cause war during the election?

A phone call indicating that we KNEW the material was in Russian hands would be all that's neccessary.

Actually, I'll tell you why there was not active countermeasures. Because this type of data probing is what the world Intel Agencies do. And it's not suspicious at all. Because NO agency wants it's sources and methods tracked and therefore the info is KEPT to be used as "blackmail" or "leverage" in random future negotiations.

But if all those Monday Morning Quarterbacks at the head of the Intel Agencies KNEW that GRU and the KREMLIN had intent to influence to the elections back last June or July ---- they failed in assessing the need to intervene.

Again, what did you expect them to do? What could they do to intervene? Hell now they are coming forward and everyone says they are full of shit and lying. If they came out before the election everyone would have just said Obama was having them do it to try and help Hillary win and that it was all a lie... what did you expect them to do???

What they did do, was find out what was hacked, and then sit back and gather as much information as possible to build a strong case to be used.

Oh ... I expect them to wring their hands and scream "what do you expect us to do" in same whiny baby sort of way that YOU just did it of course. :lmao:

I told you in the last post. If intel was following the "circuitous route" and knew the Kremlin has a SPECIFIC INTENT to interfere with the election, a few choice words from Obama to Putin on the Red Phone would have stopped it cold. Because once you're TAGGED in esponiage, you'd be a fool to continue. Because you are just compromising MORE sources and methods by continuing the operation...

It helps to have a mild understanding of the "different rules" of the spy agencies.
 
I find it scary that these people want a president like Putin and Trump is defended in that imagine. Yet, they bitch about how evil democrats are? lol. You haven't seen nothing yet!
 
U.S. intel report identifies Russians who gave emails to WikiLeaks -officials

In some cases, one official said, the material followed what was called “a circuitous route” from the GRU, Russia’s military intelligence agency, to WikiLeaks in an apparent attempt to make the origins of the material harder to trace, a common practice used by all intelligence agencies, including U.S. ones.

These handoffs, the officials said, enabled WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to say the Russian government or state agencies were not the source of the material published on his website.


U.S. intel report identifies Russians who gave emails to WikiLeaks -officials

Time for Trump to wake up and stop playing the dog and pony show.

Matthew
And how does any of this change the fact
where the SOURCE of the ORIGINAL CONTENT of the leaked emails came from?

Had anyone ALTERED the content, you might have an argument this manipulated the
election campaign beyond the fault of the people exposed.

Why is all the focus on the source of the leak
and not on the SOURCE OF THE CONTENT!!!

Or the fact that the Reuters story above says that BY OCTOBER -- it became clear to (apparently US Intel) -- but the FBI INFORMED the DNC that they were being probed almost SIX MONTHS before that !!!!!

It's awfully hard to recreate a chain of custody for the purloined data if the crime happened that long ago. Unless -- we've got wires into every nook and cranny of Russia and can play back 4 or 7 month old intel intercepts.

That's just it... CrowdStrike said they were called and started tracking the malware for months to see where it was sending the data. They knew it was there and didn't stop it, just so they could track it. They worked to get more information and not just jump the gun.

CrowdStrike was the group who said it DID not originate in the GRU.. Maybe those 2 bears were outside contractors.. But NO Intel Agency is gonna burn it's valuable sources and methods. And if Cozy and Fancy's fingerprints were the ones on it -- the GRU would NEVER compromise them as assets.

More likely Cozy and Fancy smells lots of Yankee Dollars for that information and found their OWN buyers.
Which would piss off the Russians like Snowden pissed off Clapper. Made a outright LIAR out of the clown didn't he?

I'm amazed that a keyboard warrior such as yourself is better able to figure out what happened better than very security agency we have can. Do you think Russia interfered in our elections, and if so, do you think that is OK?

I dedicated seven years of my life supporting US Intelligence efforts. Let's leave it at that.
 

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