U.S. Scientists Speak Out About The Need For Fetal Tissue In Research

[Lakhota]

Who knew in 1945 that the Germans were right to have medical experiments on people. Of course those weren't real people but Jews and gypsies, gays and the disabled. Just like black men weren't real human beings when we gave them syphilis.

There are so many unwanted people. Prisoners, the homeless, fatties, anexoretics. Once medical experiments are conducted on human beings for fun, there's no end to those declared not human anymore.

What is a "human"?

 

[theHawk]

Who knew in 1945 that the Germans were right to have medical experiments on people. Of course those weren't real people but Jews and gypsies, gays and the disabled. Just like black men weren't real human beings when we gave them syphilis.

There are so many unwanted people. Prisoners, the homeless, fatties, anexoretics. Once medical experiments are conducted on human beings for fun, there's no end to those declared not human anymore.

What is a "human"?

The species of the fetuses being used. Unless you're going to argue these fetuses aren't human and are some other species.

 

[Katzndogz]

Who knew in 1945 that the Germans were right to have medical experiments on people. Of course those weren't real people but Jews and gypsies, gays and the disabled. Just like black men weren't real human beings when we gave them syphilis.

There are so many unwanted people. Prisoners, the homeless, fatties, anexoretics. Once medical experiments are conducted on human beings for fun, there's no end to those declared not human anymore.

What is a "human"?

The species of the fetuses being used. Unless you're going to argue these fetuses aren't human and are some other species.

You might argue that they aren't human since more than 90% are black babies. How do the people who condemn the buying and selling of slaves justify the buying and selling of body parts?

 

[2aguy]

Who knew in 1945 that the Germans were right to have medical experiments on people. Of course those weren't real people but Jews and gypsies, gays and the disabled. Just like black men weren't real human beings when we gave them syphilis.

There are so many unwanted people. Prisoners, the homeless, fatties, anexoretics. Once medical experiments are conducted on human beings for fun, there's no end to those declared not human anymore.

What is a "human"?

Not leftists it seems....

 

[2aguy]

funny how it is always lefties and democrats trying to classify certain humans as less than human...

 

[Katzndogz]

What would happen if someone made a public statement that it was okay to sell these body parts because it was just black babies?

 

[westwall]

Vaccines have been one of the best things to come out of fetal tissue research.

BOSTON (AP) -- The furor on Capitol Hill over Planned Parenthood has stoked a debate about the use of tissue from aborted fetuses in medical research, but U.S. scientists have been using such cells for decades to develop vaccines and seek treatments for a host of ailments, from vision loss to cancer and AIDS.

Anti-abortion activists triggered the uproar by releasing undercover videos of Planned Parenthood officials that raised questions of whether the organization was profiting from the sale of fetal tissue. Planned Parenthood has denied making any profit and said it charges fees solely to cover its costs.

University laboratories that buy such cells strongly defend their research, saying tissue that would otherwise be thrown out has played a vital role in lifesaving medical advances and holds great potential for further breakthroughs.

Fetal cells are considered ideal because they divide rapidly, adapt to new environments easily and are less susceptible to rejection than adult cells when transplanted.

"If researchers are unable to work with fetal tissue, there is a huge list of diseases for which researchers would move much more slowly, rather than quickly, to find their cause and how they can be cured," Stanford University spokeswoman Lisa Lapin said in an email.

From 2011 through 2014 alone, 97 research institutions - mostly universities and hospitals - received a total of $280 million in federal grants for fetal tissue research from the National Institutes of Health. A few institutions have consistently gotten large shares of that money, including Yale, the University of California and Massachusetts General Hospital, which is affiliated with Harvard.

The U.S. government prohibits the sale of fetal tissue for profit and requires separation between researchers and the women who donate fetuses. Some schools go further, requiring written consent from donors.

Many major universities declined to make scientists available for interviews about their fetal tissue work, saying they fear for the researchers' safety because the issue is so highly charged. The Planned Parenthood uproar led to a failed attempt by Republicans to strip the organization of federal funding.

Researchers use fetal tissue to understand cell biology and human development. Others use it to look for treatments for AIDS. Research on spinal cord injuries and eyesight-robbing macular degeneration involves transplanting fetal cells into patients. European researchers recently began putting fetal tissue into patients' brains to try to treat Parkinson's, a strategy that previously had mixed results.

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It's great to hear some credible input from scientists about the need for this valuable research instead of emotional hysteria from those who oppose such research.

Real long on words, but very short on what they have actually accomplished. In fact I don't see a single example.

 

[koshergrl]

I like to see progressives just come out full bore, balls against the wall, in favor of harvesting dead babies and using their bodies for whatever.

It's awesome and you are in great company:

 

[aris2chat]

Link to what specific cure baby parts has cured.

ebola virus was built on fetal cells. It might be just one stain right now, but it is a fast fantastic start. It might have taken more years just to get the first trial.

I love the way they say baby cells has cured diseases, when they can't name one.

It has help build a vacine that was killing thousands in africa. Now they can protect workers, doctors and local citizens from cntracting

they have developed meds to help ALS. To improve mobility of those wit spinal injuries

They grow skin for burn victims

Cure?? Next best t help patients in the use and prevent a pandemic from spreading in africa is no good enough???

 

[aris2chat]

Who knew in 1945 that the Germans were right to have medical experiments on people. Of course those weren't real people but Jews and gypsies, gays and the disabled. Just like black men weren't real human beings when we gave them syphilis.

There are so many unwanted people. Prisoners, the homeless, fatties, anexoretics. Once medical experiments are conducted on human beings for fun, there's no end to those declared not human anymore.

What is a "human"?

The species of the fetuses being used. Unless you're going to argue these fetuses aren't human and are some other species.

You might argue that they aren't human since more than 90% are black babies. How do the people who condemn the buying and selling of slaves justify the buying and selling of body parts?

fetal cells are not sorted by color. They are so imature they can become anything. It is like a blank cell, like a blank sheet of paper before you write or draw to create something.

 

[koshergrl]

 

[Katzndogz]

Link to what specific cure baby parts has cured.

ebola virus was built on fetal cells. It might be just one stain right now, but it is a fast fantastic start. It might have taken more years just to get the first trial.

I love the way they say baby cells has cured diseases, when they can't name one.

It has help build a vacine that was killing thousands in africa. Now they can protect workers, doctors and local citizens from cntracting

they have developed meds to help ALS. To improve mobility of those wit spinal injuries

They grow skin for burn victims

Cure?? Next best t help patients in the use and prevent a pandemic from spreading in africa is no good enough???

You have fetal cells mixed up with adult stem cells.

 

[Katzndogz]

Who knew in 1945 that the Germans were right to have medical experiments on people. Of course those weren't real people but Jews and gypsies, gays and the disabled. Just like black men weren't real human beings when we gave them syphilis.

There are so many unwanted people. Prisoners, the homeless, fatties, anexoretics. Once medical experiments are conducted on human beings for fun, there's no end to those declared not human anymore.

What is a "human"?

The species of the fetuses being used. Unless you're going to argue these fetuses aren't human and are some other species.

You might argue that they aren't human since more than 90% are black babies. How do the people who condemn the buying and selling of slaves justify the buying and selling of body parts?

fetal cells are not sorted by color. They are so imature they can become anything. It is like a blank cell, like a blank sheet of paper before you write or draw to create something.

No. Not even close. You are all bollixed up between fetal cells and stem cells. They are not the same thing.

 

[aris2chat]

Link to what specific cure baby parts has cured.

ebola virus was built on fetal cells. It might be just one stain right now, but it is a fast fantastic start. It might have taken more years just to get the first trial.

I love the way they say baby cells has cured diseases, when they can't name one.

It has help build a vacine that was killing thousands in africa. Now they can protect workers, doctors and local citizens from cntracting

they have developed meds to help ALS. To improve mobility of those wit spinal injuries

They grow skin for burn victims

Cure?? Next best t help patients in the use and prevent a pandemic from spreading in africa is no good enough???

You have fetal cells mixed up with adult stem cells.

How exactly fetal tissue is used for medicine - CNN.com

 

[Katzndogz]

Did you miss the part where fetal tissue from abortions is unnecessary?

 

[koshergrl]

 

[koshergrl]

Did you miss the part where fetal tissue from abortions is unnecessary?

But it's just so much fun to chop up and re-purpose babies!

 

[Katzndogz]

Can you imagine what kind of medical advances we could make if we experimented on children and adults? We just got an influx of thousands of South and central American children. No one wants them. We can experiment on them.

 

[ScienceRocks]

If it is dead why not? We have the choice to donate body parts are our drivers license when we die.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Damn scientists!!!