U.S. Senator John Kerry Being Considered For U.S. Secretary Of Defense

If Rassman believes everything that Kerry said about the American military then he has been smoking those orchid's.

Nobody has said that Kerry was not in Vietnam even though it was a short period of time. His heroics are what is in question.

I never met Kerry or Rassman in Vietnam but some vets did even though he was there for such a short period of time and they have every right to speak to his so called valor.

No man has the right to question another man's valor or honor if that man served in combat

Every man, and woman, has the right to question every other person on Earth in any way they want to.

Not if they want to keep their honor and reputation. There are some things that just aren't right.

scoundrels and gutter crawlers usually question people's patriotism and combat records
 
We can't let a war veteran who was smeared by SwiftBoat Vets for Lies be SecDef!

Do we need a Sec of Defense who made these statements to a Congressional Committee while Americans were still fighting and dying in Vietnam?

It is impossible to describe to you exactly what did happen in Detroit, the emotions in the room, the feelings of the men who were reliving their experiences in Vietnam, but they did. They relived the absolute horror of what this country, in a sense, made them do.

They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, tape wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.
That is called aiding and abetting the enemy.


another bullshit myth.

In September 2004, Vice Admiral Ronald A. Route, the Navy Inspector General, completed a review of Kerry's combat medals, initiated at the request of Judicial Watch. In a memo to the Secretary of the Navy, Gordon England, Route stated:[79]
“ Our examination found that existing documentation regarding the Silver Star, Bronze Star and Purple Heart medals indicates the awards approval process was properly followed. In particular, the senior officers who awarded the medals were properly delegated authority to do so. In addition, we found that they correctly followed the procedures in place at the time for approving these awards

Conducting any additional review regarding events that took place over 30 years ago would not be productive. The passage of time would make reconstruction of the facts and circumstances unreliable, and would not allow the information gathered to be considered in the context of the time in which the events took place.

Our review also considered the fact that Senator Kerry's post-active duty activities were public and that military and civilian officials were aware of his actions at the time. For these reasons, I have determined that Senator Kerry's awards were properly approved and will take no further action in this matter.

Strange, I didn't see anything about medals in Too Tall's post, did you SPAM filter fail again?
 
Yes, it speaks volumes about how bad Obamination sucks that he can't attract better people to these positions despite killing UBL, walking on water and curing cancer.

He must have the plague or something....

Never mind John Kerry ..... what about the liar number one, Susan Rice considered for Secretary of State?

Makes me sick!
 
“I still think Kerry is aiming to be secretary of state,” Brinkley added. “It seems to me at a time when you are placing Hillary Clinton, a figure of such world renown, you want to replace her with someone with a deeply credentialed reputation and can work with Congress.”

Others said Kerry would be highly qualified for either position.

“He has been in this arena for a long time,” said Senator Jeff Sessions, Republican of Alabama and member of the Armed Services Committee.

When the Senate Armed Services chairman, Carl Levin of Michigan, was asked whether he preferred Kerry at state or defense, he replied. “Yes.”
 
Uh, the GOP would love Kerry to ride off into the sunset as SecState where he would open up his Senate seat for voters. He can go bloviate around the world while being laughed at behind his back in Europe and Asia because of his boss.

The GOP will go to war over him trying to become SecDEF.
 
No man has the right to question another man's valor or honor if that man served in combat

Every man, and woman, has the right to question every other person on Earth in any way they want to.

Not if they want to keep their honor and reputation. There are some things that just aren't right.

scoundrels and gutter crawlers usually question people's patriotism and combat records

Does that mean no one can question Petreaus unless they are willing to give up their honor and reputation? Did Obama loose his honor and reputation when he questioned him?
 
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“ Navy officials say that there is no evidence that Mr. Kerry's Silver Star, Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts were ever rescinded and that there is no evidence of misconduct in his records.

He did receive new medal citations in the mid-1980s. Officials say the Navy receives scores, and perhaps hundreds, of such requests each year from veterans who want a second copy or have lost the originals.

The citations are simply put through a machine that implants the signature of the current Navy secretary. John Lehman's signature, via a machine, appears on Mr. Kerry's new citation for his Silver Star.[59]
”

Commenting on the Silver Star issue, Republican Sen. John Warner, who was Under Secretary of the Navy at the time, stated "We did extraordinary, careful checking on that type of medal, a very high one, when it goes through the secretary...I'd stand by the process that awarded that medal, and I think we best acknowledge that his heroism did gain that recognition."[60] Elmo Zumwalt, Commander of the United States Naval Forces in Vietnam at that time, signed Kerry's original Silver Star citation and defended the award in 1996, saying "It is a disgrace to the United States Navy that there's any inference that the [medal] process was anything other than totally honest." Boston Herald, October 28, 1996.
 
Every man, and woman, has the right to question every other person on Earth in any way they want to.

Not if they want to keep their honor and reputation. There are some things that just aren't right.

scoundrels and gutter crawlers usually question people's patriotism and combat records

Does that mean no one can question Petreaus unless they are willing to give up their honor and reputation? Did Obama loose his honor and reputation when he questioned him?

The President did not question General Patraeus, the FBI did. The General submitted his resignation. No one questioned Patraeus' honor, duty, loyalty, combat experience.
you are the worst kind of human being here
 
Kerry did that himself when he became an intellectual and a war protester.
Kerry is your typical left over 60's hippie who came to realize that smoking dope and practicing free love was not going to cut it. SO he joined the establishment he so despised. He then sought the ladder of social status. He married a wealthy woman. Then he became a career politician.
What makes Kerry qualified to be Sec'y of Defense? He's a close ally to the president AND a far left liberal.
Should Obama appoint Kerry, he will show he has zero interest in bi partisan politics.
...and national security.

The troops will not respect Kerry as SecDef. Idiot leftists who say they will are full of shit.

They (some) don't respect Obama, they keep serving. They will keep serving regardless of what moron gets appointed to warrior in deputy-chief.
Kicking people in the face does not engender a lot of loyalty.
 
This thread is dreadfully boring

and so will the vote be when the GOP led Senate backs Senator Kerry for whatever office the President recommends him for


what is interesting is how hateful and disgusting right wingers are about a man who served his country in combat.


people like Davey who should be ashamed
 
This thread is dreadfully boring

and so will the vote be when the GOP led Senate backs Senator Kerry for whatever office the President recommends him for


what is interesting is how hateful and disgusting right wingers are about a man who served his country in combat.


people like Davey who should be ashamed

You do realize military service doesn't mean you are a good person 100% of the time, right? Like take Major Hasan for instance.

Senator Kerry, really whoever they nominate, is going to continue to murder people overseas in the name of "defense" despite the fact that these countries present no security threat to the USA.
 
“I still think Kerry is aiming to be secretary of state,” Brinkley added. “It seems to me at a time when you are placing Hillary Clinton, a figure of such world renown, you want to replace her with someone with a deeply credentialed reputation and can work with Congress.”

Others said Kerry would be highly qualified for either position.

“He has been in this arena for a long time,” said Senator Jeff Sessions, Republican of Alabama and member of the Armed Services Committee.

When the Senate Armed Services chairman, Carl Levin of Michigan, was asked whether he preferred Kerry at state or defense, he replied. “Yes.”

watch them assassinate Kerry's character and then vote to confirm and consent
 
Not if they want to keep their honor and reputation. There are some things that just aren't right.

scoundrels and gutter crawlers usually question people's patriotism and combat records

Does that mean no one can question Petreaus unless they are willing to give up their honor and reputation? Did Obama loose his honor and reputation when he questioned him?

The President did not question General Patraeus, the FBI did. The General submitted his resignation. No one questioned Patraeus' honor, duty, loyalty, combat experience.
you are the worst kind of human being here

The president didn't question Petreaus when he called him back from Afghanistan because of the story in "Rolling Stone?" Or did you forget that the world is older than 2 weeks?
 
They (some) don't respect Obama, they keep serving. They will keep serving regardless of what moron gets appointed to warrior in deputy-chief.

The military have long memories. And the truth is out there for anyone to see.

Let's look at the truth here, instead of the leftist bullshit.

WinterSoldier.com - Newly Discovered Army Reports Discredit "Winter Soldier" Claims
and here I thought Davey was a Heli hero :mad:


It's NOT the military, it is veterans, who do NOT speak for all veterans, you're claiming speak for the US Military

Asshole like you too young to know anything listen to a bunch of drunks at Vietnam Era Posts or other loser clubs. Been there. Done that. Handed them their collective asses on paper platters. :lol:
Oh, yeah. Tough guy.

:lmao:

Hey, shithead: You don't speak for the military. You speak for fucking America-hating leftists.

Dumbass.
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Hey, dumbass, did anyone say no atrocities were committed?

No, dumbass. Nobody said that, dumbass.

Credibility of the veterans and their testimony


Since the first day of the WSI event and for more than thirty years since, individuals and organizations have sought to discredit or at least minimize the painful revelations brought forth at that event. Critics have claimed that participants were frauds; that they were told to not cooperate with later investigators; that their testimonies were inaccurate or just plain fabricated.[18] To date, no records of fraudulent participants or fraudulent testimony have been produced.[10] Winter Soldier Investigation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wiki? Seriously?

In the other thread, I quote military records.

You quote Wiki.

You lose. Dumbass. :lmao:
 

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