Unequal distribution of wealth

[Gadawg73]

I'd like to know why the unequal distribution of wealth is a bad thing. This seems to be a major premise from those on the left, but it's like you just assume it's a bad thing without every really providing evidence or justifying the premise.

You do realize of course that Equal Distribution of Wealth means Communism. unEqual Distribution of Wealth is Natural in Any Free, Capitalist Society. If you want everything Equal move to fucking Cuba. where everyone is equally POOR.

Bullshit. If that was the case why are rightwinger fucktards bitching about federal workers having "higher wages" than the private sector and wanting more "equal" parity?

Because WE PAY THEIR SALARIES and have NO SAY how much they are.

 

[Gadawg73]

"commensurate

"of a proportionate or similar measurable standard

"If it is essential in our interests to maintain a quasi-permanent position of power on the Asian mainland as against the Chinese then we must be prepared to continue to pay the present cost in Vietnam indefinitely and to meet any escalation on the other side with at least a commensurate escalation of commitment of our own. - Report to the President on Southeast Asia-Vietnam by Senator Mike Mansfield, December 18, 1962"

Are you smart enough to connect the dots, Ditto?

All of the proportionate (or similar) commitments to the US standard of living since the Gipper have come at the expense of millions of middle class jobs gifted to China. Sick squeals like you encourage the financial speculation and capital flight that made that wealth transfer possible. Wall Street says, "thanks, now go and die in Afghanistan."

commensurate - Wiktionary

China makes the shoes you are wearing? Why?
Because YOU DEMAND THEM.
No one stops YOU from buying all American made products.
YOU are the problem.
Same with immigration. YOU and I demand them. As soon as we quit demanding them they quit coming.

All my shoes(both pairs) were made in the USA.
Yours?
Immigration is driven partially by "free" trade policies that give millions of Mexicans and others little recourse than migration if they want to feed their families.

If you think the influx is bad right now, just wait until US drone strikes start killing thousands of innocent Americans (Mexicans) every year in pursuit of everlasting terror.(and profit)

Free trade has nothing to do with immigration other than it LOWERS the amount that come here.
They come here because we demand them.
Your drone comment is absurd.

 

[Katzndogz]

I'd like to know why the unequal distribution of wealth is a bad thing. This seems to be a major premise from those on the left, but it's like you just assume it's a bad thing without every really providing evidence or justifying the premise.

You do realize of course that Equal Distribution of Wealth means Communism. unEqual Distribution of Wealth is Natural in Any Free, Capitalist Society. If you want everything Equal move to fucking Cuba. where everyone is equally POOR.

Bullshit. If that was the case why are rightwinger fucktards bitching about federal workers having "higher wages" than the private sector and wanting more "equal" parity?

Because government workers are paid by the taxpayers. These workers live OFF of people who have no choice in whether to patronize their services, nor can the consumers of these services complain about the service. The workers don't get paid by how well they perform but only on how loudly they demand.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Its pretty simple folks.

Unequal distribution of wealth is good when its good and bad when its bad.

Easy example. Say we can choose between two systems. One where both you and I make $100 a month each, and one where I make $1000 a month and you make $100,000 a month. Clearly - the latter system is better for BOTH of us - even though its unequal. In this case capitalism causes us both to rise.

On the other hand, if we have to choose between the former system and a system where I make $50 a month and you make $1,000,000,000,000 a month - in that case, the unequal distribution is NOT a good thing.

Here's the rub..The only thing preventing you from making more than the $50 per month is YOU.

Is that a purely theoretical argument or do you have empirical evidence to back it?

 

[Gadawg73]

Its pretty simple folks.

Unequal distribution of wealth is good when its good and bad when its bad.

Easy example. Say we can choose between two systems. One where both you and I make $100 a month each, and one where I make $1000 a month and you make $100,000 a month. Clearly - the latter system is better for BOTH of us - even though its unequal. In this case capitalism causes us both to rise.

On the other hand, if we have to choose between the former system and a system where I make $50 a month and you make $1,000,000,000,000 a month - in that case, the unequal distribution is NOT a good thing.

Here's the rub..The only thing preventing you from making more than the $50 per month is YOU.

Is that a purely theoretical argument or do you have empirical evidence to back it?

My bank account backs it up. Yours can too.

 

[Conservative]

Demand will promote investment as long as the tax consequences are known and low.
Why invest in a business with unknown profits due to high capital gains taxes when I can invest in Costa Rica eco tourism at 15% return?
Americans are dumb asses. They know nothing about money or economics.

I majored in business, made A's in accounting and economics, and I have a successful business.

I know a lot more about this than you do.

you know as much about this as you do about politicians getting recalled or indicted

NADA.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Here's the rub..The only thing preventing you from making more than the $50 per month is YOU.

Is that a purely theoretical argument or do you have empirical evidence to back it?

My bank account backs it up. Yours can too.

Ahh! So you think its a slogan based argument? I didn't even think of that. OK. Sorry, but I don't buy slogan based arguments.

 

[Flaylo]

You do realize of course that Equal Distribution of Wealth means Communism. unEqual Distribution of Wealth is Natural in Any Free, Capitalist Society. If you want everything Equal move to fucking Cuba. where everyone is equally POOR.

Bullshit. If that was the case why are rightwinger fucktards bitching about federal workers having "higher wages" than the private sector and wanting more "equal" parity?

Because WE PAY THEIR SALARIES and have NO SAY how much they are.

Federal workers pay into the system for usless fucks too, your salary pays a lot of shit, if you want more of your own money back get a fucking government job and stop hating on others.

 

[Flaylo]

You do realize of course that Equal Distribution of Wealth means Communism. unEqual Distribution of Wealth is Natural in Any Free, Capitalist Society. If you want everything Equal move to fucking Cuba. where everyone is equally POOR.

Bullshit. If that was the case why are rightwinger fucktards bitching about federal workers having "higher wages" than the private sector and wanting more "equal" parity?

Because government workers are paid by the taxpayers. These workers live OFF of people who have no choice in whether to patronize their services, nor can the consumers of these services complain about the service. The workers don't get paid by how well they perform but only on how loudly they demand.

How the fuck do you know? have you read the evaluations of every federal worker? lets see your evaluations, I'll post mine since I'm military, lets sees who is the best.

 

[Flaylo]

All this talk about govt workers getting paid taxpayer money and using that as an excuse to hate on govt workers is bullshit, that same govt check they get for working goes back to the private sector when they spend their checks, try bitching about employers pocketing taxcuts which is also your money and shut the fuck up with your haterade drinking bullshit.

 

[georgephillip]

Government-paid wage slave v private sector wage slave is another lie the rich tell.

The only issue that matters is who controls the government, the majority (99%) or the few (1%)

"Choosing" between Republican OR Democrat changes only which investment banker become Treasury Secretary.

 

[Flaylo]

These fucking idiots who complain about govt workers and their salaries are just haters, they ignore facts, facts like the wages of govt employees are used to purchase goods and services in the private sector which pays the salaries of private sector workers, cut their wages you cut your own, simple economics 101.

 

[georgephillip]

These fucking idiots who complain about govt workers and their salaries are just haters, they ignore facts, facts like the wages of govt employees are used to purchase goods and services in the private sector which pays the salaries of private sector workers, cut their wages you cut your own, simple economics 101.

They also tend to ignore the fact that without government there would be no courts, public safety and money.

 

[JoeNormal]

I'd like to know why the unequal distribution of wealth is a bad thing. This seems to be a major premise from those on the left, but it's like you just assume it's a bad thing without every really providing evidence or justifying the premise.

Here's a video discussing the societal impacts of wealth disparity:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUVk1mx6W4g]Kate Pickett - The Consequences of Inequality and Wealth Distribution - YouTube[/ame]

And here's some further reading on a number of different issues:

Articles on Inequality and Societal impacts

 

[Gremlin-USA]

These fucking idiots who complain about govt workers and their salaries are just haters, they ignore facts, facts like the wages of govt employees are used to purchase goods and services in the private sector which pays the salaries of private sector workers, cut their wages you cut your own, simple economics 101.

Using your Logic, Mafia Hitmen use their pay to purchase goods and services from the private sector, so it is OK?

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[Flaylo]

These fucking idiots who complain about govt workers and their salaries are just haters, they ignore facts, facts like the wages of govt employees are used to purchase goods and services in the private sector which pays the salaries of private sector workers, cut their wages you cut your own, simple economics 101.

Using your Logic, Mafia Hitmen use their pay to purchase goods and services from the private sector, so it is OK?

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Mafia people extort shit, useless fucktard argument.

 

[georgephillip]

China makes the shoes you are wearing? Why?
Because YOU DEMAND THEM.
No one stops YOU from buying all American made products.
YOU are the problem.
Same with immigration. YOU and I demand them. As soon as we quit demanding them they quit coming.

All my shoes(both pairs) were made in the USA.
Yours?
Immigration is driven partially by "free" trade policies that give millions of Mexicans and others little recourse than migration if they want to feed their families.

If you think the influx is bad right now, just wait until US drone strikes start killing thousands of innocent Americans (Mexicans) every year in pursuit of everlasting terror.(and profit)

Free trade has nothing to do with immigration other than it LOWERS the amount that come here.
They come here because we demand them.
Your drone comment is absurd.

They come here because NAFTA dumped tons of US taxpayer subsidzed corn on the Mexican market and wiped out the livelyhoods of millions of small farmers in that country. When the Great Wall Street Depression arrives, it will no longer be possible for US parasites to borrow enough money to kill thousands of innocent Muslims on the opposite side of the planet.

That leaves innocent Christians in Mexico.
So far from God;so close to the Pentagon.

 

[Gremlin-USA]

These fucking idiots who complain about govt workers and their salaries are just haters, they ignore facts, facts like the wages of govt employees are used to purchase goods and services in the private sector which pays the salaries of private sector workers, cut their wages you cut your own, simple economics 101.

Using your Logic, Mafia Hitmen use their pay to purchase goods and services from the private sector, so it is OK?

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Mafia people extort shit, useless fucktard argument.

Just using a dumb example as you did, when Government employees make 20-25% (including all benefits) more than their counterparts in the private sector is that not dumb?

Just because someone spends their money on goods and services does not make it correct or ethical on how the achieved the extra money, that is my point.

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[buckeye45_73]

These fucking idiots who complain about govt workers and their salaries are just haters, they ignore facts, facts like the wages of govt employees are used to purchase goods and services in the private sector which pays the salaries of private sector workers, cut their wages you cut your own, simple economics 101.

They also tend to ignore the fact that without government there would be no courts, public safety and money.

No see, that's why libeals think of communism as socialist utopia. The conservatives call it anarchy, because we do want SOME government, VERY BASIC government.
Utopian socialism = anarchy (positive view is from liberals, negative view from conservatives)
Liberals are the ones that want huge government, then when you as mention the USSR or cuba, they say communism hasnt been tried, because they think it is socialist utopia (ie no government, ie anarchy). That's why we laugh at socialist utopia, it's NOT POSSIBLE= and if it did happen, it would be CHAOS (ie no courts, public saftey or money as you point out)
And thats why commies and anarchists get together, because they both believe in the same thing for different reasons.

so to recap. Liberals love utopian socialism, conservatives dont and call it anarchy (because we realize we need SOME government)

 

[Flaylo]

Using your Logic, Mafia Hitmen use their pay to purchase goods and services from the private sector, so it is OK?

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Mafia people extort shit, useless fucktard argument.

Just using a dumb example as you did, when Government employees make 20-25% (including all benefits) more than their counterparts in the private sector is that not dumb?

Just because someone spends their money on goods and services does not make it correct or ethical on how the achieved the extra money, that is my point.

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Th 1% own most of the fucking wealth is America but you mangy fucks talk about class envy, stop envying govt workers and go out and make either more money or get a fucking federal job and shut the fuck up, you get paid less in the private sector because the bosses ARE TAKING MORE and that has fuck all to do with federal workers and their salaries which most federal dollars don't even go to. Instead of bitching about federal workers with all your envy try asking your bosses to pay your broke ass more money instead of being their loyal slaves.