Unique Mosaics Found In Ancient Israeli Synagogue Depict Alexander The Great And Samson

[Sally]

It's always interesting to read about what was found these days of things from the ancient world.

7/19/2015 @ 10:03AM 6,165 views
Unique Mosaics Found In Ancient Israeli Synagogue Depict Alexander The Great And Samson



Did Alexander the Great meet a Jewish priest, and was this meeting enshrined in a mosaic floor? It’s probably just a legend, but the mosaic is also the first non-biblical one ever to be found in an ancient synagogue, at a site called Huqoq. Since 2011, Jodi Magness, an archaeologist at UNC Chapel Hill, has been leading excavations at Huqoq, near Galilee in Israel. And for the last three summers, she has uncovered fantastic mosaics unlike anything that has been seen before.

Huqoq is the modern name for an ancient Jewish village that, for all intents and purposes, did not seem particularly special when Magness first began to excavate it. A freshwater spring located nearby allowed Huqoq to grow into a large settlement that flourished particularly in the Late Roman and Early Byzantine periods. The village includes houses and a synagogue, and outside of the settlement are cemetery plots, a wine press and olive press, quarries, and twomiqwa’ot (ritual baths).

Excavations in 2012 revealed there was more to Huqoq than initially imagined as the first mosaics were discovered: an inscription with female faces and a small portion of a scene of Samson with the foxes. In 2013, the team foundSamson carrying the gate of Gaza depicted in a mosaic as well as a mosaic with three horizontal registers showing a meeting between important officials.

Continue reading at:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinakillgrove/2015/07/19/unique-mosaics-found-in-ancient-israeli-synagogue-include-alexander-the-great-and-samson

 

[Jroc]

amazing what you can find when the savages don't destroy it

 

[Roudy]

It's always interesting to read about what was found these days of things from the ancient world.

7/19/2015 @ 10:03AM 6,165 views
Unique Mosaics Found In Ancient Israeli Synagogue Depict Alexander The Great And Samson



Did Alexander the Great meet a Jewish priest, and was this meeting enshrined in a mosaic floor? It’s probably just a legend, but the mosaic is also the first non-biblical one ever to be found in an ancient synagogue, at a site called Huqoq. Since 2011, Jodi Magness, an archaeologist at UNC Chapel Hill, has been leading excavations at Huqoq, near Galilee in Israel. And for the last three summers, she has uncovered fantastic mosaics unlike anything that has been seen before.

Huqoq is the modern name for an ancient Jewish village that, for all intents and purposes, did not seem particularly special when Magness first began to excavate it. A freshwater spring located nearby allowed Huqoq to grow into a large settlement that flourished particularly in the Late Roman and Early Byzantine periods. The village includes houses and a synagogue, and outside of the settlement are cemetery plots, a wine press and olive press, quarries, and twomiqwa’ot (ritual baths).

Excavations in 2012 revealed there was more to Huqoq than initially imagined as the first mosaics were discovered: an inscription with female faces and a small portion of a scene of Samson with the foxes. In 2013, the team foundSamson carrying the gate of Gaza depicted in a mosaic as well as a mosaic with three horizontal registers showing a meeting between important officials.

Continue reading at:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinakillgrove/2015/07/19/unique-mosaics-found-in-ancient-israeli-synagogue-include-alexander-the-great-and-samson

Wasn't Alexander the Great a Muslim but didn't know it?

 

[aris2chat]

It's always interesting to read about what was found these days of things from the ancient world.

7/19/2015 @ 10:03AM 6,165 views
Unique Mosaics Found In Ancient Israeli Synagogue Depict Alexander The Great And Samson



Did Alexander the Great meet a Jewish priest, and was this meeting enshrined in a mosaic floor? It’s probably just a legend, but the mosaic is also the first non-biblical one ever to be found in an ancient synagogue, at a site called Huqoq. Since 2011, Jodi Magness, an archaeologist at UNC Chapel Hill, has been leading excavations at Huqoq, near Galilee in Israel. And for the last three summers, she has uncovered fantastic mosaics unlike anything that has been seen before.

Huqoq is the modern name for an ancient Jewish village that, for all intents and purposes, did not seem particularly special when Magness first began to excavate it. A freshwater spring located nearby allowed Huqoq to grow into a large settlement that flourished particularly in the Late Roman and Early Byzantine periods. The village includes houses and a synagogue, and outside of the settlement are cemetery plots, a wine press and olive press, quarries, and twomiqwa’ot (ritual baths).

Excavations in 2012 revealed there was more to Huqoq than initially imagined as the first mosaics were discovered: an inscription with female faces and a small portion of a scene of Samson with the foxes. In 2013, the team foundSamson carrying the gate of Gaza depicted in a mosaic as well as a mosaic with three horizontal registers showing a meeting between important officials.

Continue reading at:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinakillgrove/2015/07/19/unique-mosaics-found-in-ancient-israeli-synagogue-include-alexander-the-great-and-samson

Wasn't Alexander the Great a Muslim but didn't know it?

He was told he was the son of god

 

[Roudy]

Yup! Abraham, Jesus, Moses, David, Jacob, Daniel were all Muslims and non of them even knew it! Even Neil Armstrong converted to Islam. Rumor is, as soon as he stepped on the moon he got on all fours and started praying in Arabic. Amazing but true.

 

[Mr. H.]

Rumor is, as soon as he stepped on the moon he got on all fours and started praying in Arabic. Amazing but true.

An amazing but true rumor?

 

[Sally]

It's always interesting to read about what was found these days of things from the ancient world.

7/19/2015 @ 10:03AM 6,165 views
Unique Mosaics Found In Ancient Israeli Synagogue Depict Alexander The Great And Samson



Did Alexander the Great meet a Jewish priest, and was this meeting enshrined in a mosaic floor? It’s probably just a legend, but the mosaic is also the first non-biblical one ever to be found in an ancient synagogue, at a site called Huqoq. Since 2011, Jodi Magness, an archaeologist at UNC Chapel Hill, has been leading excavations at Huqoq, near Galilee in Israel. And for the last three summers, she has uncovered fantastic mosaics unlike anything that has been seen before.

Huqoq is the modern name for an ancient Jewish village that, for all intents and purposes, did not seem particularly special when Magness first began to excavate it. A freshwater spring located nearby allowed Huqoq to grow into a large settlement that flourished particularly in the Late Roman and Early Byzantine periods. The village includes houses and a synagogue, and outside of the settlement are cemetery plots, a wine press and olive press, quarries, and twomiqwa’ot (ritual baths).

Excavations in 2012 revealed there was more to Huqoq than initially imagined as the first mosaics were discovered: an inscription with female faces and a small portion of a scene of Samson with the foxes. In 2013, the team foundSamson carrying the gate of Gaza depicted in a mosaic as well as a mosaic with three horizontal registers showing a meeting between important officials.

Continue reading at:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinakillgrove/2015/07/19/unique-mosaics-found-in-ancient-israeli-synagogue-include-alexander-the-great-and-samson

Wasn't Alexander the Great a Muslim but didn't know it?

He was told he was the son of god

Isn't one of the myths that his mother was impregnated by a snake? Another that he was the son of Zeus?

 

[Roudy]

Rumor is, as soon as he stepped on the moon he got on all fours and started praying in Arabic. Amazing but true.

An amazing but true rumor?

You haven't heard it before? It was all over the media. They actually believe the first thing Neil Armstring did was get on all fours and point his ass to Mecca. It's very fascinating:


How Neil Armstrong "became" a Muslim

Among the many rumors circulating in the Islamic world, the claim that Neil Armstrong, the famous Astronaut, has become a Muslim seems to be one that will never die.

Hopefully, the following statement will help to put this claim at rest. Neil Armstrong participated in the Global Leadership Forum in Malaysia on 6 September 2005. The Star Malaysia, currently the most widely read English newspaper in Malaysia, took the occasion to interview him on his moon landing mission with Apollo 11. In the article, Armstrong recalls moon landing, published on 7 September 2005, both in print and online, one finds this statement:



Armstrong, 75, also denied he had heard the Muslim call to prayer on the moon and had converted to Islam.

The rest of this article, originally written in 1996 and updated a couple of times since then, documents the reasons why anyone would even ask Neil Armstrong such an odd question, and explains the necessity for clarifying this issue.



Mid November 1996 the following report reached us:

• 
  
  We have a very good Islamic community radio station here in Cape Town.
  The following story was told for the honest truth on our Muslim radio
  the other day:
  
  When Louis Armstrong and co. walked on the moon, they heard sounds
  in a strange language they did not understand. Only later, after
  returning to earth, did they realize that it was actually the azaan!
  
  I have seen a few mosques with powerful speaker systems, but wow,
  somebody down here certainly turned on the power on that day!
  
  

[Obviously the reference was supposed to be in regard to Neil Armstrong, the astronaut, not Louis Armstrong, the Jazz musician.]



This rumor also surfaces every other month or so on the Islamic newsgroup, examples of one of the more recent appearances:

• 
  Subject: Re: NEIL ARMSTRONG Muslim?
  From: "BB."
  Date: 1996/08/26
  Message-Id: <4vtjnd$[email protected]>
  Organization: University of Canberra, Australia
  Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
  
  On 20 Aug 1996 [email protected] wrote:
  
  > CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME IF IT TRUE THAT NEIL ARMSTRONG IS A MUSLIM??
  
  Salam
  i heard that when he went to the moon he heard the Athan (call for prayer)
  so he heard it again on earth and he became a muslim, i read an article
  that he lives in lebanon now (my country) and his neighbours say he
  doesn't talk to anyone... he could have been so famous the
  second man on the moon is still famous now, but neil decided to live like
  this. Alah aalam (god knows). if anyone else know about him i'd like to
  know more.
  wassalam
  

Here two postings on the newsgroup soc.religion.islam in response to the question and statement by Muslims at least informed that it is a rumor, ... yet Gilberto reporting on some other rumor he heard on how the original rumor might have started (rumors about rumors, getting ever more complicated):

• 
  From: [email protected] (GSimp95605)
  Date: 1996/08/23
  Message-Id: <4vkcdj$[email protected]>
  Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
  
  Asalam-alaikum,
  
  What I've heard (some time ago, in this group) is that Neil Armstrong
  went to Egypt, heard the adhan, said it was spacey" in an interview.
  And somehow, that got turned into a rather nice story about how he
  heard some strange sound when he was up in space, eventually found out
  that it was the adhan, and became Muslim because of the experience.
  
  To the best of my knowledge, he's not Muslim (allahu alim)
  
  Salam
  
  GIlberto
  
  

and

• 
  In article <50k5cg$[email protected]>,
  [email protected] (Mas'ud Ahmed Khan) writes:
  
  NO, this keeps popping up time and again, from what I gather
  Neil Armstrong is not and was never a Muslim, he lives in the
  US and is a bit of a recluse, he occasionally lectures.
  Someone told me that he explicitly denied being a Muslim and
  does not know how the rumour started.
  
  It is sad that some Muslims make up stories that have a snowball
  effect and sooner or later become a "fact" that Muslims boast
  about can you imagine what impression we give to those who
  know about Armstrong?
  
  wa'as-Salaam
  
  Mas'ud
  
  

In the following some statements about this issue, authorised by Mr. Armstrong, to speak on his behalf.

• 
  NEIL A. ARMSTRONG
  LEBANON, OHIO 45036
  
  July 14,1983
  
  Mr. Phil Parshall Director
  Asian Research Center
  International Christian
  Fellowship 29524 Bobrich
  Livonia, Michigan 48152
  
  Dear Mr. Parshall:
  
  Mr. Armstrong has asked me to reply to your letter and
  to thank you for the courtesy of your inquiry.
  
  The reports of his conversion to Islam and of hearing
  the voice of Adzan on the moon and elsewhere are all
  untrue.
  
  Several publications in Malaysia, Indonesia and other
  countries have published these reports without verifi-
  cation. We apologize for any inconvenience that this
  incompetent journalism may have caused you.
  
  Subsequently, Mr. Armstrong agreed to participate in a
  telephone interview, reiterating his reaction to these
  stories. I am enclosing copies of the United States
  State Department's communications prior to and after
  that interview.
  
  Sincerely
  
  Vivian White
  Administrative Aide
  

Comments: In our possession is a photocopy of this letter which is identical in text to the above, except that the street address and phone number of Mr. Armstrong contained in that copy are deleted. The above also shows where this idea came from, that Mr. Armstrong supposedly lives in Lebanon. Yes, Lebanon is true, yet this "Lebanon" is not in the Middle East, but in the Midwest of the United States of America.

A statement by the US State Department sent to all embassies and consulates in the Islamic world:

• 
  P 04085 0Z MAR 83 ZEX
  FM SECSTATE WASHD C
  TO ALL DIPLOMATIC AND CONSULAR POSTS PRIORITY
  BI
  UNCLAS STATE 056309
  
  FOLLOWING REPEAT SENT ACTION ALL EAST ASIAN AND
  PACIFIC DIPLOMATIC POSTS DTD MAR 02.
  
  QUOTE: UNCLAS STATE 056309
  E.O. 12356: N/A
  TAGS: PREL, PGOV, US, ID
  SUBJECT: ALLEGED CONVERSION OF NEIL ARMSTRONG TO ISLAM
  ---------------------------------------------
  
  REF: JAKARTA 3281 AND 2374 (NOT ..)
  
  1. FORMER ASTRONAUT NEIL ARMSTRONG, NOW IN PRIVATE
  BUSINESS, HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF PRESS REPORTS IN
  EGYPT, MALAYSIA AND INDONESIA (AND PERHAPS ELSEWHERE)
  ALLEGING HIS CONVERSION TO ISLAM DURING HIS LANDING ON
  THE MOON IN 1969. AS A RESULT OF SUCH REPORTS,
  ARMSTRONG HAS RECEIVED COMMUNICATIONS FROM INDIVIDUALS
  AND RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, AND A FEELER FROM AT LEAST
  ONE GOVERNMENT, ABOUT HIS POSSIBLE PARTICIPATION IN
  ISLAMIC ACTIVITIES.
  
  2. WHILE STRESSING HIS STRONG DESIRE NOT TO OFFEND
  ANYONE OR SHOW DISRESPECT FOR ANY RELIGION, ARMSTRONG
  HAS ADVISED DEPARTMENT THAT REPORTS OF HIS CONVERSION
  TO ISLAM ARE INACCURATE.
  
  3. IF POST RECEIVE QUERIES ON THIS MATTER, ARMSTRONG
  REQUESTS THAT THEY POLITELY BUT FIRMLY INFORM QUERYING
  PARTY THAT HE HAS NOT CONVERTED TO ISLAM AND HAS NO
  CURRENT PLANS OR DESIRE TO TRAVEL OVERSEAS TO
  PARTICIPATE IN ISLAMIC RELIGOUS ACTIVITIES.
  
  

Click here to view the scanned photocopy of this above note from the US State Department.

Furthermore, the following letter to the editor was printed in the Journal Arabia, The Islamic World Review, Issue June 1985/Ramadan 1405, page 5:

• 
  A MUSLIM OVER THE MOON?
  
  Arabia is by far the superior newsmagazine regarding
  what is going on in the Muslim world today. Your reporting
  is extremely thorough and seeks to be as objective as
  possible. Your willingness to criticise political policies
  as well as religious happenings in the Muslim world is
  refreshing. As an American I would feel your slant on the
  West is basically fair.
  
  
  
  It would be most helpful if you would dispel a misconception
  prevalent in almost all Muslim countries. From Morocco to the
  Philippines it is commonly believed that Neil Armstrong heard
  the Azan on the moon, converted to Islam and is now engaged in
  the full-time propagation of the Muslim faith.
  
  
  
  The US State Department has issued a memo saying that the story
  about Armstrong's conversion was untrue. The memo said "While
  stressing his strong desire not so offend anyone or show
  disrespect for any religion, Armstrong has advised Department
  that reports of his conversion to Islam are inaccurate." The
  memo further says, "if post receives queries on this matter,
  Armstrong requests that they politely but firmly inform querying
  party that he has not converted to Islam and has no current
  plans or desires to travel overseas to participate in Islamic
  religious activities."
  
  
  
  N.B. The memo was sent to all our diplomatic and consular posts.
  
  
  
  Dr Phil Parshall
  Director, Asian Research Centre Manila, Philippines
  
  

Click here for a scanned image of this page in Arabia.



Sadly, as documented above, this rumor still goes round and round in the Islamic world, over a decade after it has been denied over and over again. Not only in mouth to mouth propaganda but it is even spread by Muslim radio stations.

Yet even when the Muslims tell their brothers that it is a false rumor, they are not convinced, the newest newsgroup tidbit is

• 
  Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong -first man on the moon!
  From: Farzad <[email protected]>
  Date: 1997/01/17
  Message-Id: <[email protected]>
  Newsgroups: alt.religion.islam
  
  > No it is false, it is a myth spread in Muslim world. Armstrong denies
  > this story. He is not Muslim ...
  
  He perfomed prayers in Turkey in the same masjid where Malcolm X
  prayed and huge crowd prayed behind him.
  
  salaams,
  
  

Is this rumor ever going to die? My question to Farzad would be (as to all others who spread the rumor): Were you there when he prayed in this masjid? -- No? Thought so.

Response the above: [Complaint], [Response]



But never shall they be satisfied ...

Anyway, this person gives at least some references for the rumors.

• 
  Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong - first man on the moon!
  From: [email protected] (M Damron)
  Date: 1997/02/02
  Message-Id: <[email protected]>
  Newsgroups: alt.religion.islam
  
  I thought he did convert. As an American that converted to Islam I have
  come across this story in both Islamic and Non-Islamic sources. Two of
  these include the book A Muslim Primer by Ira Zepp and another book titled
  Defenders of God.
  

 

[Mr. H.]

Rumor is, as soon as he stepped on the moon he got on all fours and started praying in Arabic. Amazing but true.

An amazing but true rumor?

You haven't heard it before? It was all over the media. They actually believe the first thing Neil Armstring did was get on all fours and point his ass to Mecca. It's very fascinating:


How Neil Armstrong "became" a Muslim

Among the many rumors circulating in the Islamic world, the claim that Neil Armstrong, the famous Astronaut, has become a Muslim seems to be one that will never die.

Hopefully, the following statement will help to put this claim at rest. Neil Armstrong participated in the Global Leadership Forum in Malaysia on 6 September 2005. The Star Malaysia, currently the most widely read English newspaper in Malaysia, took the occasion to interview him on his moon landing mission with Apollo 11. In the article, Armstrong recalls moon landing, published on 7 September 2005, both in print and online, one finds this statement:



Armstrong, 75, also denied he had heard the Muslim call to prayer on the moon and had converted to Islam.

The rest of this article, originally written in 1996 and updated a couple of times since then, documents the reasons why anyone would even ask Neil Armstrong such an odd question, and explains the necessity for clarifying this issue.



Mid November 1996 the following report reached us:

• 
  
  We have a very good Islamic community radio station here in Cape Town.
  The following story was told for the honest truth on our Muslim radio
  the other day:
  
  When Louis Armstrong and co. walked on the moon, they heard sounds
  in a strange language they did not understand. Only later, after
  returning to earth, did they realize that it was actually the azaan!
  
  I have seen a few mosques with powerful speaker systems, but wow,
  somebody down here certainly turned on the power on that day!
  

[Obviously the reference was supposed to be in regard to Neil Armstrong, the astronaut, not Louis Armstrong, the Jazz musician.]



This rumor also surfaces every other month or so on the Islamic newsgroup, examples of one of the more recent appearances:

• 
  Subject: Re: NEIL ARMSTRONG Muslim?
  From: "BB."
  Date: 1996/08/26
  Message-Id: <4vtjnd$[email protected]>
  Organization: University of Canberra, Australia
  Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
  
  On 20 Aug 1996 [email protected] wrote:
  
  > CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME IF IT TRUE THAT NEIL ARMSTRONG IS A MUSLIM??
  
  Salam
  i heard that when he went to the moon he heard the Athan (call for prayer)
  so he heard it again on earth and he became a muslim, i read an article
  that he lives in lebanon now (my country) and his neighbours say he
  doesn't talk to anyone... he could have been so famous the
  second man on the moon is still famous now, but neil decided to live like
  this. Alah aalam (god knows). if anyone else know about him i'd like to
  know more.
  wassalam

Here two postings on the newsgroup soc.religion.islam in response to the question and statement by Muslims at least informed that it is a rumor, ... yet Gilberto reporting on some other rumor he heard on how the original rumor might have started (rumors about rumors, getting ever more complicated):

• 
  From: [email protected] (GSimp95605)
  Date: 1996/08/23
  Message-Id: <4vkcdj$[email protected]>
  Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
  
  Asalam-alaikum,
  
  What I've heard (some time ago, in this group) is that Neil Armstrong
  went to Egypt, heard the adhan, said it was spacey" in an interview.
  And somehow, that got turned into a rather nice story about how he
  heard some strange sound when he was up in space, eventually found out
  that it was the adhan, and became Muslim because of the experience.
  
  To the best of my knowledge, he's not Muslim (allahu alim)
  
  Salam
  
  GIlberto
  

and

• 
  In article <50k5cg$[email protected]>,
  [email protected] (Mas'ud Ahmed Khan) writes:
  
  NO, this keeps popping up time and again, from what I gather
  Neil Armstrong is not and was never a Muslim, he lives in the
  US and is a bit of a recluse, he occasionally lectures.
  Someone told me that he explicitly denied being a Muslim and
  does not know how the rumour started.
  
  It is sad that some Muslims make up stories that have a snowball
  effect and sooner or later become a "fact" that Muslims boast
  about can you imagine what impression we give to those who
  know about Armstrong?
  
  wa'as-Salaam
  
  Mas'ud
  

In the following some statements about this issue, authorised by Mr. Armstrong, to speak on his behalf.

• 
  NEIL A. ARMSTRONG
  LEBANON, OHIO 45036
  
  July 14,1983
  
  Mr. Phil Parshall Director
  Asian Research Center
  International Christian
  Fellowship 29524 Bobrich
  Livonia, Michigan 48152
  
  Dear Mr. Parshall:
  
  Mr. Armstrong has asked me to reply to your letter and
  to thank you for the courtesy of your inquiry.
  
  The reports of his conversion to Islam and of hearing
  the voice of Adzan on the moon and elsewhere are all
  untrue.
  
  Several publications in Malaysia, Indonesia and other
  countries have published these reports without verifi-
  cation. We apologize for any inconvenience that this
  incompetent journalism may have caused you.
  
  Subsequently, Mr. Armstrong agreed to participate in a
  telephone interview, reiterating his reaction to these
  stories. I am enclosing copies of the United States
  State Department's communications prior to and after
  that interview.
  
  Sincerely
  
  Vivian White
  Administrative Aide

Comments: In our possession is a photocopy of this letter which is identical in text to the above, except that the street address and phone number of Mr. Armstrong contained in that copy are deleted. The above also shows where this idea came from, that Mr. Armstrong supposedly lives in Lebanon. Yes, Lebanon is true, yet this "Lebanon" is not in the Middle East, but in the Midwest of the United States of America.

A statement by the US State Department sent to all embassies and consulates in the Islamic world:

• 
  P 04085 0Z MAR 83 ZEX
  FM SECSTATE WASHD C
  TO ALL DIPLOMATIC AND CONSULAR POSTS PRIORITY
  BI
  UNCLAS STATE 056309
  
  FOLLOWING REPEAT SENT ACTION ALL EAST ASIAN AND
  PACIFIC DIPLOMATIC POSTS DTD MAR 02.
  
  QUOTE: UNCLAS STATE 056309
  E.O. 12356: N/A
  TAGS: PREL, PGOV, US, ID
  SUBJECT: ALLEGED CONVERSION OF NEIL ARMSTRONG TO ISLAM
  ---------------------------------------------
  
  REF: JAKARTA 3281 AND 2374 (NOT ..)
  
  1. FORMER ASTRONAUT NEIL ARMSTRONG, NOW IN PRIVATE
  BUSINESS, HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF PRESS REPORTS IN
  EGYPT, MALAYSIA AND INDONESIA (AND PERHAPS ELSEWHERE)
  ALLEGING HIS CONVERSION TO ISLAM DURING HIS LANDING ON
  THE MOON IN 1969. AS A RESULT OF SUCH REPORTS,
  ARMSTRONG HAS RECEIVED COMMUNICATIONS FROM INDIVIDUALS
  AND RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, AND A FEELER FROM AT LEAST
  ONE GOVERNMENT, ABOUT HIS POSSIBLE PARTICIPATION IN
  ISLAMIC ACTIVITIES.
  
  2. WHILE STRESSING HIS STRONG DESIRE NOT TO OFFEND
  ANYONE OR SHOW DISRESPECT FOR ANY RELIGION, ARMSTRONG
  HAS ADVISED DEPARTMENT THAT REPORTS OF HIS CONVERSION
  TO ISLAM ARE INACCURATE.
  
  3. IF POST RECEIVE QUERIES ON THIS MATTER, ARMSTRONG
  REQUESTS THAT THEY POLITELY BUT FIRMLY INFORM QUERYING
  PARTY THAT HE HAS NOT CONVERTED TO ISLAM AND HAS NO
  CURRENT PLANS OR DESIRE TO TRAVEL OVERSEAS TO
  PARTICIPATE IN ISLAMIC RELIGOUS ACTIVITIES.
  

Click here to view the scanned photocopy of this above note from the US State Department.

Furthermore, the following letter to the editor was printed in the Journal Arabia, The Islamic World Review, Issue June 1985/Ramadan 1405, page 5:

• 
  A MUSLIM OVER THE MOON?
  
  Arabia is by far the superior newsmagazine regarding
  what is going on in the Muslim world today. Your reporting
  is extremely thorough and seeks to be as objective as
  possible. Your willingness to criticise political policies
  as well as religious happenings in the Muslim world is
  refreshing. As an American I would feel your slant on the
  West is basically fair.
  
  
  
  It would be most helpful if you would dispel a misconception
  prevalent in almost all Muslim countries. From Morocco to the
  Philippines it is commonly believed that Neil Armstrong heard
  the Azan on the moon, converted to Islam and is now engaged in
  the full-time propagation of the Muslim faith.
  
  
  
  The US State Department has issued a memo saying that the story
  about Armstrong's conversion was untrue. The memo said "While
  stressing his strong desire not so offend anyone or show
  disrespect for any religion, Armstrong has advised Department
  that reports of his conversion to Islam are inaccurate." The
  memo further says, "if post receives queries on this matter,
  Armstrong requests that they politely but firmly inform querying
  party that he has not converted to Islam and has no current
  plans or desires to travel overseas to participate in Islamic
  religious activities."
  
  
  
  N.B. The memo was sent to all our diplomatic and consular posts.
  
  
  
  Dr Phil Parshall
  Director, Asian Research Centre Manila, Philippines
  

Click here for a scanned image of this page in Arabia.



Sadly, as documented above, this rumor still goes round and round in the Islamic world, over a decade after it has been denied over and over again. Not only in mouth to mouth propaganda but it is even spread by Muslim radio stations.

Yet even when the Muslims tell their brothers that it is a false rumor, they are not convinced, the newest newsgroup tidbit is

• 
  Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong -first man on the moon!
  From: Farzad <[email protected]>
  Date: 1997/01/17
  Message-Id: <[email protected]>
  Newsgroups: alt.religion.islam
  
  > No it is false, it is a myth spread in Muslim world. Armstrong denies
  > this story. He is not Muslim ...
  
  He perfomed prayers in Turkey in the same masjid where Malcolm X
  prayed and huge crowd prayed behind him.
  
  salaams,
  

Is this rumor ever going to die? My question to Farzad would be (as to all others who spread the rumor): Were you there when he prayed in this masjid? -- No? Thought so.

Response the above: [Complaint], [Response]



But never shall they be satisfied ...

Anyway, this person gives at least some references for the rumors.

• 
  Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong - first man on the moon!
  From: [email protected] (M Damron)
  Date: 1997/02/02
  Message-Id: <[email protected]>
  Newsgroups: alt.religion.islam
  
  I thought he did convert. As an American that converted to Islam I have
  come across this story in both Islamic and Non-Islamic sources. Two of
  these include the book A Muslim Primer by Ira Zepp and another book titled
  Defenders of God.

Amazing but true Islamic World rumors.

That's rich, Jerry. RICH!

 

[Roudy]

Rumor is, as soon as he stepped on the moon he got on all fours and started praying in Arabic. Amazing but true.

An amazing but true rumor?

You haven't heard it before? It was all over the media. They actually believe the first thing Neil Armstring did was get on all fours and point his ass to Mecca. It's very fascinating:


How Neil Armstrong "became" a Muslim

Among the many rumors circulating in the Islamic world, the claim that Neil Armstrong, the famous Astronaut, has become a Muslim seems to be one that will never die.

Hopefully, the following statement will help to put this claim at rest. Neil Armstrong participated in the Global Leadership Forum in Malaysia on 6 September 2005. The Star Malaysia, currently the most widely read English newspaper in Malaysia, took the occasion to interview him on his moon landing mission with Apollo 11. In the article, Armstrong recalls moon landing, published on 7 September 2005, both in print and online, one finds this statement:



Armstrong, 75, also denied he had heard the Muslim call to prayer on the moon and had converted to Islam.

The rest of this article, originally written in 1996 and updated a couple of times since then, documents the reasons why anyone would even ask Neil Armstrong such an odd question, and explains the necessity for clarifying this issue.



Mid November 1996 the following report reached us:

• 
  
  We have a very good Islamic community radio station here in Cape Town.
  The following story was told for the honest truth on our Muslim radio
  the other day:
  
  When Louis Armstrong and co. walked on the moon, they heard sounds
  in a strange language they did not understand. Only later, after
  returning to earth, did they realize that it was actually the azaan!
  
  I have seen a few mosques with powerful speaker systems, but wow,
  somebody down here certainly turned on the power on that day!

[Obviously the reference was supposed to be in regard to Neil Armstrong, the astronaut, not Louis Armstrong, the Jazz musician.]



This rumor also surfaces every other month or so on the Islamic newsgroup, examples of one of the more recent appearances:

• 
  Subject: Re: NEIL ARMSTRONG Muslim?
  From: "BB."
  Date: 1996/08/26
  Message-Id: <4vtjnd$[email protected]>
  Organization: University of Canberra, Australia
  Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
  
  On 20 Aug 1996 [email protected] wrote:
  
  > CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME IF IT TRUE THAT NEIL ARMSTRONG IS A MUSLIM??
  
  Salam
  i heard that when he went to the moon he heard the Athan (call for prayer)
  so he heard it again on earth and he became a muslim, i read an article
  that he lives in lebanon now (my country) and his neighbours say he
  doesn't talk to anyone... he could have been so famous the
  second man on the moon is still famous now, but neil decided to live like
  this. Alah aalam (god knows). if anyone else know about him i'd like to
  know more.
  wassalam

Here two postings on the newsgroup soc.religion.islam in response to the question and statement by Muslims at least informed that it is a rumor, ... yet Gilberto reporting on some other rumor he heard on how the original rumor might have started (rumors about rumors, getting ever more complicated):

• 
  From: [email protected] (GSimp95605)
  Date: 1996/08/23
  Message-Id: <4vkcdj$[email protected]>
  Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
  
  Asalam-alaikum,
  
  What I've heard (some time ago, in this group) is that Neil Armstrong
  went to Egypt, heard the adhan, said it was spacey" in an interview.
  And somehow, that got turned into a rather nice story about how he
  heard some strange sound when he was up in space, eventually found out
  that it was the adhan, and became Muslim because of the experience.
  
  To the best of my knowledge, he's not Muslim (allahu alim)
  
  Salam
  
  GIlberto

and

• 
  In article <50k5cg$[email protected]>,
  [email protected] (Mas'ud Ahmed Khan) writes:
  
  NO, this keeps popping up time and again, from what I gather
  Neil Armstrong is not and was never a Muslim, he lives in the
  US and is a bit of a recluse, he occasionally lectures.
  Someone told me that he explicitly denied being a Muslim and
  does not know how the rumour started.
  
  It is sad that some Muslims make up stories that have a snowball
  effect and sooner or later become a "fact" that Muslims boast
  about can you imagine what impression we give to those who
  know about Armstrong?
  
  wa'as-Salaam
  
  Mas'ud

In the following some statements about this issue, authorised by Mr. Armstrong, to speak on his behalf.

• 
  NEIL A. ARMSTRONG
  LEBANON, OHIO 45036
  
  July 14,1983
  
  Mr. Phil Parshall Director
  Asian Research Center
  International Christian
  Fellowship 29524 Bobrich
  Livonia, Michigan 48152
  
  Dear Mr. Parshall:
  
  Mr. Armstrong has asked me to reply to your letter and
  to thank you for the courtesy of your inquiry.
  
  The reports of his conversion to Islam and of hearing
  the voice of Adzan on the moon and elsewhere are all
  untrue.
  
  Several publications in Malaysia, Indonesia and other
  countries have published these reports without verifi-
  cation. We apologize for any inconvenience that this
  incompetent journalism may have caused you.
  
  Subsequently, Mr. Armstrong agreed to participate in a
  telephone interview, reiterating his reaction to these
  stories. I am enclosing copies of the United States
  State Department's communications prior to and after
  that interview.
  
  Sincerely
  
  Vivian White
  Administrative Aide

Comments: In our possession is a photocopy of this letter which is identical in text to the above, except that the street address and phone number of Mr. Armstrong contained in that copy are deleted. The above also shows where this idea came from, that Mr. Armstrong supposedly lives in Lebanon. Yes, Lebanon is true, yet this "Lebanon" is not in the Middle East, but in the Midwest of the United States of America.

A statement by the US State Department sent to all embassies and consulates in the Islamic world:

• 
  P 04085 0Z MAR 83 ZEX
  FM SECSTATE WASHD C
  TO ALL DIPLOMATIC AND CONSULAR POSTS PRIORITY
  BI
  UNCLAS STATE 056309
  
  FOLLOWING REPEAT SENT ACTION ALL EAST ASIAN AND
  PACIFIC DIPLOMATIC POSTS DTD MAR 02.
  
  QUOTE: UNCLAS STATE 056309
  E.O. 12356: N/A
  TAGS: PREL, PGOV, US, ID
  SUBJECT: ALLEGED CONVERSION OF NEIL ARMSTRONG TO ISLAM
  ---------------------------------------------
  
  REF: JAKARTA 3281 AND 2374 (NOT ..)
  
  1. FORMER ASTRONAUT NEIL ARMSTRONG, NOW IN PRIVATE
  BUSINESS, HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF PRESS REPORTS IN
  EGYPT, MALAYSIA AND INDONESIA (AND PERHAPS ELSEWHERE)
  ALLEGING HIS CONVERSION TO ISLAM DURING HIS LANDING ON
  THE MOON IN 1969. AS A RESULT OF SUCH REPORTS,
  ARMSTRONG HAS RECEIVED COMMUNICATIONS FROM INDIVIDUALS
  AND RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, AND A FEELER FROM AT LEAST
  ONE GOVERNMENT, ABOUT HIS POSSIBLE PARTICIPATION IN
  ISLAMIC ACTIVITIES.
  
  2. WHILE STRESSING HIS STRONG DESIRE NOT TO OFFEND
  ANYONE OR SHOW DISRESPECT FOR ANY RELIGION, ARMSTRONG
  HAS ADVISED DEPARTMENT THAT REPORTS OF HIS CONVERSION
  TO ISLAM ARE INACCURATE.
  
  3. IF POST RECEIVE QUERIES ON THIS MATTER, ARMSTRONG
  REQUESTS THAT THEY POLITELY BUT FIRMLY INFORM QUERYING
  PARTY THAT HE HAS NOT CONVERTED TO ISLAM AND HAS NO
  CURRENT PLANS OR DESIRE TO TRAVEL OVERSEAS TO
  PARTICIPATE IN ISLAMIC RELIGOUS ACTIVITIES.

Click here to view the scanned photocopy of this above note from the US State Department.

Furthermore, the following letter to the editor was printed in the Journal Arabia, The Islamic World Review, Issue June 1985/Ramadan 1405, page 5:

• 
  A MUSLIM OVER THE MOON?
  
  Arabia is by far the superior newsmagazine regarding
  what is going on in the Muslim world today. Your reporting
  is extremely thorough and seeks to be as objective as
  possible. Your willingness to criticise political policies
  as well as religious happenings in the Muslim world is
  refreshing. As an American I would feel your slant on the
  West is basically fair.
  
  
  
  It would be most helpful if you would dispel a misconception
  prevalent in almost all Muslim countries. From Morocco to the
  Philippines it is commonly believed that Neil Armstrong heard
  the Azan on the moon, converted to Islam and is now engaged in
  the full-time propagation of the Muslim faith.
  
  
  
  The US State Department has issued a memo saying that the story
  about Armstrong's conversion was untrue. The memo said "While
  stressing his strong desire not so offend anyone or show
  disrespect for any religion, Armstrong has advised Department
  that reports of his conversion to Islam are inaccurate." The
  memo further says, "if post receives queries on this matter,
  Armstrong requests that they politely but firmly inform querying
  party that he has not converted to Islam and has no current
  plans or desires to travel overseas to participate in Islamic
  religious activities."
  
  
  
  N.B. The memo was sent to all our diplomatic and consular posts.
  
  
  
  Dr Phil Parshall
  Director, Asian Research Centre Manila, Philippines

Click here for a scanned image of this page in Arabia.



Sadly, as documented above, this rumor still goes round and round in the Islamic world, over a decade after it has been denied over and over again. Not only in mouth to mouth propaganda but it is even spread by Muslim radio stations.

Yet even when the Muslims tell their brothers that it is a false rumor, they are not convinced, the newest newsgroup tidbit is

• 
  Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong -first man on the moon!
  From: Farzad <[email protected]>
  Date: 1997/01/17
  Message-Id: <[email protected]>
  Newsgroups: alt.religion.islam
  
  > No it is false, it is a myth spread in Muslim world. Armstrong denies
  > this story. He is not Muslim ...
  
  He perfomed prayers in Turkey in the same masjid where Malcolm X
  prayed and huge crowd prayed behind him.
  
  salaams,

Is this rumor ever going to die? My question to Farzad would be (as to all others who spread the rumor): Were you there when he prayed in this masjid? -- No? Thought so.

Response the above: [Complaint], [Response]



But never shall they be satisfied ...

Anyway, this person gives at least some references for the rumors.

• 
  Subject: Re: Neil Armstrong - first man on the moon!
  From: [email protected] (M Damron)
  Date: 1997/02/02
  Message-Id: <[email protected]>
  Newsgroups: alt.religion.islam
  
  I thought he did convert. As an American that converted to Islam I have
  come across this story in both Islamic and Non-Islamic sources. Two of
  these include the book A Muslim Primer by Ira Zepp and another book titled
  Defenders of God.

Amazing but true Islamic World rumors.

That's rich, Jerry. RICH!

 

[irosie91]

It's always interesting to read about what was found these days of things from the ancient world.

7/19/2015 @ 10:03AM 6,165 views
Unique Mosaics Found In Ancient Israeli Synagogue Depict Alexander The Great And Samson



Did Alexander the Great meet a Jewish priest, and was this meeting enshrined in a mosaic floor? It’s probably just a legend, but the mosaic is also the first non-biblical one ever to be found in an ancient synagogue, at a site called Huqoq. Since 2011, Jodi Magness, an archaeologist at UNC Chapel Hill, has been leading excavations at Huqoq, near Galilee in Israel. And for the last three summers, she has uncovered fantastic mosaics unlike anything that has been seen before.

Huqoq is the modern name for an ancient Jewish village that, for all intents and purposes, did not seem particularly special when Magness first began to excavate it. A freshwater spring located nearby allowed Huqoq to grow into a large settlement that flourished particularly in the Late Roman and Early Byzantine periods. The village includes houses and a synagogue, and outside of the settlement are cemetery plots, a wine press and olive press, quarries, and twomiqwa’ot (ritual baths).

Excavations in 2012 revealed there was more to Huqoq than initially imagined as the first mosaics were discovered: an inscription with female faces and a small portion of a scene of Samson with the foxes. In 2013, the team foundSamson carrying the gate of Gaza depicted in a mosaic as well as a mosaic with three horizontal registers showing a meeting between important officials.

Continue reading at:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinakillgrove/2015/07/19/unique-mosaics-found-in-ancient-israeli-synagogue-include-alexander-the-great-and-samson

Wasn't Alexander the Great a Muslim but didn't know it?

yes----that is a belief that I had heard from muslims long ago. In fact ---
or so I have heard-----muslims like to pray at his supposed (very unproven) burial place as if he is some kind of saint----but other muslims consider the
practice of doing so to be -------uhm......??? "fitna" ????

 

[Roudy]

It's always interesting to read about what was found these days of things from the ancient world.

7/19/2015 @ 10:03AM 6,165 views
Unique Mosaics Found In Ancient Israeli Synagogue Depict Alexander The Great And Samson



Did Alexander the Great meet a Jewish priest, and was this meeting enshrined in a mosaic floor? It’s probably just a legend, but the mosaic is also the first non-biblical one ever to be found in an ancient synagogue, at a site called Huqoq. Since 2011, Jodi Magness, an archaeologist at UNC Chapel Hill, has been leading excavations at Huqoq, near Galilee in Israel. And for the last three summers, she has uncovered fantastic mosaics unlike anything that has been seen before.

Huqoq is the modern name for an ancient Jewish village that, for all intents and purposes, did not seem particularly special when Magness first began to excavate it. A freshwater spring located nearby allowed Huqoq to grow into a large settlement that flourished particularly in the Late Roman and Early Byzantine periods. The village includes houses and a synagogue, and outside of the settlement are cemetery plots, a wine press and olive press, quarries, and twomiqwa’ot (ritual baths).

Excavations in 2012 revealed there was more to Huqoq than initially imagined as the first mosaics were discovered: an inscription with female faces and a small portion of a scene of Samson with the foxes. In 2013, the team foundSamson carrying the gate of Gaza depicted in a mosaic as well as a mosaic with three horizontal registers showing a meeting between important officials.

Continue reading at:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinakillgrove/2015/07/19/unique-mosaics-found-in-ancient-israeli-synagogue-include-alexander-the-great-and-samson

Wasn't Alexander the Great a Muslim but didn't know it?

yes----that is a belief that I had heard from muslims long ago. In fact ---
or so I have heard-----muslims like to pray at his supposed (very unproven) burial place as if he is some kind of saint----but other muslims consider the
practice of doing so to be -------uhm......??? "fitna" ????

Poor Alexander the Great, he was a Muslim and he didn't know it. Maybe someone should inform the Greeks and historians:



ahsanirfan
29-03-2005, 12:58 AM
Salaam,

About a couple of hours ago I had finished watching a documentary called, walking in the footsteps of Alexander the great. Anyway, one part that caught my attention is that supposedly Alexander the great is mentioned in the Quran. I decided to further check this up which I had no idea about. Anyway, I came across the following,

“According to the Quran (Surah 18:89-98) Alexander the Great was a devout Muslim and lived to a ripe old age. Historical records however show that Alexander the Great died young at 33 years of age (356 - 323 B.C.), and believed he himself was divine, forcing others to recognize him as such. In India on the Hyphasis River (now Beas) Alexander erected twelve altars to twelve Olympian gods.”

Could some please explain this in more detail whether this is truth or what?

Salam o alaikum

Alexander could be a Muslim. In this regard, I must mention a couple of points:

1) The documentary is making a sweeping assertion. No one belives Alexander the Great is a Muslim. It's simply a possibility.

2) The personality mentioned in the Quran is Sayyiduna Dhul Qarnain (a.s.). This is the one who is commonly thought of as being Alexander.

As for why exactly is Dhul Qarnain thought of being Alexander, we would first have to look at the the Ayahs that mention him. These Ayahs appear at the end of Surah Kahf, after Ayah no. 83. One reading will tell you the story of Sayyiduna Hazrat Dhul Qarnain. Contrasting this story to the story of Alexander the Great will give you great similarities. However, there are some important differences as well, for example, his Greek pagan inclinations, and his age. Historians usually screw up history. So we can never know for sure whether Alexander was really Dhul Qarnain or not.

The first person to draw such a parallel between the two stories was Abdullah Yusuf Ali. You might want to check out his tafseer for that. However, his tafseer is not regarding as authentic, and so we should remain carefull of it.

Wallahu Ta'ala 'Alam
FEMTO
29-03-2005, 01:07 AM
Salam o alaikum

1) The documentary is making a sweeping assertion. No one belives Alexander the Great is a Muslim. It's simply a possibility.




But shouldn’t this possibility be rejected especially when Alexander was known to be a pagan and a bisexual.
abdul518ca
29-03-2005, 01:52 AM
Sh. Abdul Hakim Muarad [db] said that "if the historical accounts about Alexander the Great are correct, then Alexander was not a Muslim."

But as Ahsan said, some similarities between Sayyidina Duhul Qurnayn and Alexander are somewhat astonishing.

For example, Ayah 86 of Surah Kahf says, "... until he reached the setting-place of the sun, and found a people around it...," this might be referring to Lake Ohrid in Macedonia, which happens to be the most Westerly point in Alexander's dominion.

Ayah 93 says "... he reached [a tract] between the two mountains, and found beneath them a people who scarcely understood a word." This is when Hadhrat Dhul Qurnayn [ra] was asked to build a barrier which would seal the gap between these two mountians, and stop the Ya'juj and Ma'juj from carrying out raids. This might be referring to the Iron Gates near Bukhara (Imam Bukhari's birthplace), which stood between Transoxiana and Mongolia.
Omar HH
29-03-2005, 02:22 AM
But as Ahsan said, some similarities between Sayyidina Duhul Qurnayn and Alexander are somewhat astonishing.

For example, Ayah 86 of Surah Kahf says, "... until he reached the setting-place of the sun, and found a people around it...," this might be referring to Lake Ohrid in Macedonia, which happens to be the most Westerly point in Alexander's dominion.

Ayah 93 says "... he reached [a tract] between the two mountains, and found beneath them a people who scarcely understood a word." This is when Hadhrat Dhul Qurnayn [ra] was asked to build a barrier which would seal the gap between these two mountians, and stop the Ya'juj and Ma'juj from carrying out raids. This might be referring to the Iron Gates near Bukhara (Imam Bukhari's birthplace), which stood between Transoxiana and Mongolia.

Argue what you will about Alexander the Great being Muslim or not, but Alexander the Great was NOT Dhul Qarnayn.

Jazakallahu Khayrun

 

[irosie91]

Well roudy------you are just TOO DAMNED CYNICAL-----of course he was a muslim-------silly boy-----ALL GREAT PEOPLE were muslims------from ADAM to
MAIMONIDES ------I have it from impeccable sources-------young doctors educated
in Karachi. You are probably aware of the fact that lots of jewish boys ---well---
OF THE ASHKENAZI creed at least-------are named either ALEXANDER or PHILIP (in fact two very close to me)---------but-----be not deceived Neither
ALEXANDER nor his esteemed father (that bastard who left alexander's mother) were jews---------THEY WERE ALL MUSLIMS-------they just happened to "do zeus"

 

[Roudy]

All the great people in history were actually Muslims and didn't know it.

Iranian book claims Leonardo DaVinci converted to Islam

Why not? Shakespeare was a Muslim (and so was Hamlet). Abraham Lincoln was a Muslim. Christopher Columbus was a multiculturalist, heavily influenced by Islam. Even D’Artagnan of the Three Musketeersconverted to Islam. So why not Da Vinci?

Both Islamic supremacists and non-Muslim multiculturalist dhimmis promote this nonsense, albeit for vastly different reasons: the non-Muslims think that by falsifying history and exaggerating the achievements of Muslims and the legacy of Islam, they can show Muslims that they’re welcome in the West, ease the concerns that more sensible non-Muslims have about jihad and Islamization, and prove that they’re not “racist,” “bigoted” and “Islamophobic.” Islamic supremacists, meanwhile, think that these claims advance and demonstrate the superiority of Islam and of Muslims as the “best of nations” (Qur’an 3:110).

Meanwhile, no one is going around claiming that Rumi was actually an Assyrian Christian, or that Suleiman the Magnificent was secretly Greek Orthodox. It manifests a deep cultural inferiority complex to persist in claiming the great figures of other cultures as one’s own.

“Da Vinci was a Muslim?,” from the Ahlul Bayt News Agency, April 9 (thanks to David):

(Ahlul Bayt News Agency) – Morteza Khalaj Amirhosseini’s book “Leonardo Da Vinci’s Drawings” contains best drawings as well as a detailed biography of this eminent artist. Based on valid sources, the book proves that Da Vinci had been converted into Persian.

Amirhosseini added: “I have prepared the book in order to address the needs of art students as there was no comprehensive book of Da Vinci’s works available in Iran. We should know an artist by his works, but unfortunately Da Vinci is just an icon in Iran with mythological fame.”

Amirhosseini went on to say that the book presents a complete biography of Da Vinci in which he has proved based on first-hand sources that the Renaissance artist had become a Muslim. However, the west prefers to keep silent on the subject, he added.

He added: “A French writer in the 19th century has evaluated the issue of Da Vinci’s conversion to Islam in a treatise, but the west has banned the publication of this treatise.”

 

[irosie91]

roudy-----YOU will like this one-------a very intelligent Pakistani surgeon informed me-------with deep conviction that RAMBAM was a muslim------he could PROVE IT---------rambam knew and wrote in Arabic. ------obviously----PROOF!!!!!!

uhm........avoid Arabic------people will think you are in love with fartimah

 

[Roudy]

One day when I become famous I will be Muslim too!

 

[irosie91]

One day when I become famous I will be Muslim too!

Uhm can I be uhm----fix this up for me ------ UM - MUJAHADIN???

 

[irosie91]

roudy-----YOU will like this one-------a very intelligent Pakistani surgeon informed me-------with deep conviction that RAMBAM was a muslim------he could PROVE IT---------rambam knew and wrote in Arabic. ------obviously----PROOF!!!!!!

uhm........avoid Arabic------people will think you are in love with fartimah

way back----when I was young------in junior high school----reading my regular
junior high school history book-------the LESSONS OF THE CRUSADES were
illustrated--------as a kind of LEARNING EXPERIENCE for the Christians of
Europe-------the text book (usa public school) made it clear that the Christians
of Europe and "THE WEST" in general benefited greatly from the ISLAMIC INVENTION-------of lemons and the ISLAMIC invention of glass etc etc etc

My mind was screwed up by the BRITISH VERSION of history----that I thought
MUSLIMS INVENTED THE WHEEL ----well----when I was about 14

 

[Roudy]

People who are mentally ill, incarcerated, or have a criminal record are VIP converts to Islam and go to the head of the line.

True story.

 

[surada]

Yup! Abraham, Jesus, Moses, David, Jacob, Daniel were all Muslims and non of them even knew it! Even Neil Armstrong converted to Islam. Rumor is, as soon as he stepped on the moon he got on all fours and started praying in Arabic. Amazing but true.

The concept is that every one who loves God and submits to the will of God is a Muslim. Too complicated for you?