We're in a weird place when we have to cite the definition of a simple word like people, but the trick is, I'm the ones who are "twisting" words while you're the ones who says this plural refers to individuals in spites of the lawses of Englishes These are just hard lessons that we have to learn for myselves.
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You ARE in a weird place if you think that the right recognized and secured from government injury in the 2nd Amendment is in any manner dependent upon the words of the 2nd Amendment for its existence.
This is what is so ludicrous about you leftists and your defining of the words of the 2nd Amendment . . . Your "state's right" / "militia right" / "collective right" position is entirely dependent upon the purposeful ignoring /dismissing of the fundamental principles of conferred powers and retained rights and 130+ years of SCOTUS proving you wrong.
Supreme Court, 1876: "The right there specified is that of "bearing arms for a lawful purpose."* This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. . . ."
Supreme Court, 1886: "the right of the people to keep and bear arms is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. . . . "
Supreme Court, 2008: "it has always been widely understood that the Second Amendment, like the First and Fourth Amendments, codified a pre-existing right. The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it “shall not be infringed.” As we said in . . . 1876 , “[t]his is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. . . . ”
The right to arms doesn't exist because the 2nd Amendment is there or any particualr definition of terms used in the Amendment.
See, unlike the power to organize, train, drill and deploy citizens as militia, the right to keep and bear arms IN NO MANNER DEPENDS on the Constitution to exist.
The right exists and is possessed by "the people" because "We the People", when establishing the powers of the federal government, never granted a shred of power to the federal government to allow it to even compose a thought about the personal arms of the private citizen.
Why do you persist in presenting/ perpetuating these defunct and corrupt theories that stand in such clear opposition to the foundational principles and legal action of the Constitution?
Is the leftist, statist, authoritarian anti-constitution agenda really that alluring to you?
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* The "bearing arms for a lawful purpose" cited in this case (Cruikshank) was that of self defense, exercised by two Freedmen (former slaves but in 1873, US citizens) against the KKK. They of course were not militia members and the time of the Colfax Massacre, Louisiana had no official state militia, it having been disbanded by Congress.
Wow. I hope your personal right to English lessons is not infringed, because you're gonna need them to have any clue what we're talking about here. Perhaps you can squeeze them in between these leftist and statist Doctor Doom comic books.
We're talking about the use of English and a dependent clause therein. Not a law or a right "depending" on something.
A dependent (subordinate) clause is one that is set up by, and depends on, another clause. "If I type this sentence, it appears". The verb "appears" depends on "if I type this sentence"; if I do not type this sentence, it does not appear.
Back to the 2A
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
The main action is:
"the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"
-- but it is dependent on the previous phrase that sets it up:
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state"
This is the basis for what follows; "Since" or "because" a well regulated militia is necessary etc, the right follows. If the security of a free state does not require a well regulated militia, then the right has no basis and does not follow. Ergo the action (the right) is a dependent (subordinate) clause; it depends on what precedes. If what precedes doesn't facilitate it, then it doesn't exist. And that facilitation, in this case, refers to a "well regulated militia". Which is by definition a collective, not an individual.
That's what we're talking about. Welcome to our language. Where SCOTUS is irrelevant.
And by the way the legal right absolutely exists as a result of being codified in the Second Amendment. That's why we have a Constitution -- to declare and spell these things out. If it were not, shall we say, dependent on that..... we wouldn't need a Constitution.
The problem is that the first part of the sentence isn't a subordinate clause, or at least not in the way you're familiar with using them in 21st century American English.
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