Us Liberals Are Happy

[Soggy in NOLA]

Sounds like someone has positively lost it.

 

[sealybobo]

Sounds like someone has positively lost it.

Who you? Im happy no jeb rubio kasich Christie or Cruz will be president. I am OK with whoever wins I just choose hillary.

Why? Supreme nominee and trump might sign too many Ryan McConnell bills.

Assuming McConnell stays the majority leader. Either way expect him to obstruct whoever wins and tries to fix what's wrong.

 

[Correll]

Imagine if trump ran as a democrat and he were our nominee? We'd be hoping he would beat Cruz rubio or kasich in the general election.

Well he is beating Cruz rubio and kasich. This pleases us very much.

Now that doesn't mean we want trump to be president but we'll take a trump presidency over a rubio kasich or Cruz presidency anyday.

So as far as this liberal is concerned, America is infinitely better off as soon as there is no chance rubio kasich or Cruz is the nominee.

Hopefully trump beats kasich in Ohio and rubio in Florida this week.

What I find interesting here is that by stating this opinion you are putting yourself at odds with nearly every liberals who is pretending that Trump is the next Hitler..


I assume that a part of that means you disagree about the "Hitler" thing.

So, what do you think of all those libs who are panic mongering about Trump?

 

[sealybobo]

Imagine if trump ran as a democrat and he were our nominee? We'd be hoping he would beat Cruz rubio or kasich in the general election.

Well he is beating Cruz rubio and kasich. This pleases us very much.

Now that doesn't mean we want trump to be president but we'll take a trump presidency over a rubio kasich or Cruz presidency anyday.

So as far as this liberal is concerned, America is infinitely better off as soon as there is no chance rubio kasich or Cruz is the nominee.

Hopefully trump beats kasich in Ohio and rubio in Florida this week.

What I find interesting here is that by stating this opinion you are putting yourself at odds with nearly every liberals who is pretending that Trump is the next Hitler..


I assume that a part of that means you disagree about the "Hitler" thing.

So, what do you think of all those libs who are panic mongering about Trump?

1. I have my reservations about trump.
2. He has used a page or two out of the demagogue playbook. But how you play politics running for office isn't necessarily how you will govern. He's said a lot of things I agree with.
3. You have to say crazy stuff to get Republican voters to vote for you. I know he doesn't really care about Monica but he's going to milk that

I won't vote for trump. At least not yet. But if he wins I won't be sad like if Cruz or kasich rubio or bush won. Not even close.

If he wins, Trump isn't going to be a right wing tool. I don't want him to win but he's the least offensive GOP imo

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If trump were running as a democrat and said he was going to raise taxes on the rich you'd all flip but he said it the other day and not a peep from Republicans.

Might have a point if not for the fact he would need congressional and Senate approval--but he does.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

While you roll a joint?

I just don't want another bush or rubio kasich Christie Cruz near the white house. Republicans got to stop only representing the rich. And don't tell me I'm wrong. It's why America said no to another Republican anywhere near the white house.

Hell yea I'll smoke to that

Republicans lost because of the cry babies in the party.

When an establishment nominee gets elected, the TP party types stay home.
When somebody like Trump wins, the establishment says they will stay home.

I held my nose voting for Romney and McCain, but I can't let the Democrats win simply because my ideal nominee didn't get in.

Then when somebody like DumBama serves two terms, these cry babies sit back and ask how that could happen? My answer to them is Duh!!!!

I didn't vote for Trump in the primaries, but now that he is legitimately the nominee, I will vote for him not because he's Trump, but to keep the Democrats out. And if more Republicans would keep that as a target instead of sobbing their candidate lost, maybe such unity could assure us some kind of Republican in the White House.

I hear this a lot and it is utter bullshit. This stance assumes that the republicans simply deserve my vote (or anyone's vote) rather than having to actually earn it. It is a false assumption on your part to assume that a particular voter is looking for the 'ideal' nominee. I certainly am not looking for ideal at all. All I ask is for someone that bothers to represent me at least a little bit. The current republican party is far more big government, pro war and anti freedom than their supposed 'platform' of smaller government that does not get in your way.

You blame the likes of us that refuse to vote garbage out of blanket fear that 'the other guy is worse.' I blame those that are like you and hold your nose voting for that garbage for the continued crap candidates that we keep getting. Make no mistake, the republicans are no better than the democrats and the continued votes they garner are WHAT IS KEEPING THEM THERE. You want a republican party that you do not have to hold your nose for? You want a candidate that may not have a platform that you can totally get behind but at least stands for a majority of the things you do? Then stop supporting those that do not meet that criteria. You will ALWAYS get a candidate that you have to hold your nose for as long as you are willing to feed them your vote.

The idea that we all need to vote against the other guy rather than voting FOR someone has utterly destroyed our political system and is utterly nonsensical in a democracy. When the goal becomes to stop the other candidate rather than place a decent one in office, you can accept anyone. At that point, what is the difference?

That's exactly my goal, to stop Hillary or any Democrat from taking office.

DumBama won both elections, and with confidence, I can say I did all I could do to stop it. I took the time to go to the polls and vote against him. While I've hated these last seven years plus, at least I don't feel guilty because I let my ego usher him into the White House.

If you waste your vote on a candidate that stands no chance in hell of winning, or otherwise not vote at all, you did cast a vote for Obama, and Hillary if you do the same this election.

You don't change your party during the presidential election, you change your party during the primaries as we have now. I vote for what's better for the country--not what makes me feel good. And this election is very critical with the balance of the Supreme Court at hand. You can vote out a President after four years, but Supreme Court justices are for life, and I'm not about to let them turn my country into a Socialist Utopia because Trump wasn't good enough for my vote. Mickey Mouse is good enough for my vote if it stops these liberals from taking my rights away--particularly my gun rights.

Trump will nominate Obama's nominee for supreme

And you will never like a democratic president no matter how good they are.

The only reason I won't vote trump is I can't vote for who you vote for.

Ill give you one thing the entire system is corrupt and the most important step was saying no to McCain Romney kasich Cruz rubio and jeb.

Yes, we know.....you keep telling us.

Trump might not make a good pick for SC or he might, but we know what Hillary will pick, so I guess we will have to take our chances with Trump.

 

[sealybobo]

I just don't want another bush or rubio kasich Christie Cruz near the white house. Republicans got to stop only representing the rich. And don't tell me I'm wrong. It's why America said no to another Republican anywhere near the white house.

Hell yea I'll smoke to that

Republicans lost because of the cry babies in the party.

When an establishment nominee gets elected, the TP party types stay home.
When somebody like Trump wins, the establishment says they will stay home.

I held my nose voting for Romney and McCain, but I can't let the Democrats win simply because my ideal nominee didn't get in.

Then when somebody like DumBama serves two terms, these cry babies sit back and ask how that could happen? My answer to them is Duh!!!!

I didn't vote for Trump in the primaries, but now that he is legitimately the nominee, I will vote for him not because he's Trump, but to keep the Democrats out. And if more Republicans would keep that as a target instead of sobbing their candidate lost, maybe such unity could assure us some kind of Republican in the White House.

I hear this a lot and it is utter bullshit. This stance assumes that the republicans simply deserve my vote (or anyone's vote) rather than having to actually earn it. It is a false assumption on your part to assume that a particular voter is looking for the 'ideal' nominee. I certainly am not looking for ideal at all. All I ask is for someone that bothers to represent me at least a little bit. The current republican party is far more big government, pro war and anti freedom than their supposed 'platform' of smaller government that does not get in your way.

You blame the likes of us that refuse to vote garbage out of blanket fear that 'the other guy is worse.' I blame those that are like you and hold your nose voting for that garbage for the continued crap candidates that we keep getting. Make no mistake, the republicans are no better than the democrats and the continued votes they garner are WHAT IS KEEPING THEM THERE. You want a republican party that you do not have to hold your nose for? You want a candidate that may not have a platform that you can totally get behind but at least stands for a majority of the things you do? Then stop supporting those that do not meet that criteria. You will ALWAYS get a candidate that you have to hold your nose for as long as you are willing to feed them your vote.

The idea that we all need to vote against the other guy rather than voting FOR someone has utterly destroyed our political system and is utterly nonsensical in a democracy. When the goal becomes to stop the other candidate rather than place a decent one in office, you can accept anyone. At that point, what is the difference?

That's exactly my goal, to stop Hillary or any Democrat from taking office.

DumBama won both elections, and with confidence, I can say I did all I could do to stop it. I took the time to go to the polls and vote against him. While I've hated these last seven years plus, at least I don't feel guilty because I let my ego usher him into the White House.

If you waste your vote on a candidate that stands no chance in hell of winning, or otherwise not vote at all, you did cast a vote for Obama, and Hillary if you do the same this election.

You don't change your party during the presidential election, you change your party during the primaries as we have now. I vote for what's better for the country--not what makes me feel good. And this election is very critical with the balance of the Supreme Court at hand. You can vote out a President after four years, but Supreme Court justices are for life, and I'm not about to let them turn my country into a Socialist Utopia because Trump wasn't good enough for my vote. Mickey Mouse is good enough for my vote if it stops these liberals from taking my rights away--particularly my gun rights.

Trump will nominate Obama's nominee for supreme

And you will never like a democratic president no matter how good they are.

The only reason I won't vote trump is I can't vote for who you vote for.

Ill give you one thing the entire system is corrupt and the most important step was saying no to McCain Romney kasich Cruz rubio and jeb.

Yes, we know.....you keep telling us.

Trump might not make a good pick for SC or he might, but we know what Hillary will pick, so I guess we will have to take our chances with Trump.

And I'm cool with that. If trump wins he will be a moderate populice triangulator the GOP will have to govern with and make no mistake who the boss is

 

[sealybobo]

If trump were running as a democrat and said he was going to raise taxes on the rich you'd all flip but he said it the other day and not a peep from Republicans.

Might have a point if not for the fact he would need congressional and Senate approval--but he does.

And if trump tries to implement his policies, we will see who the obstructionists are over bringing jobs home, good paying jobs, sending illegal workers home and raising taxes on the rich and closing loopholes.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Republicans lost because of the cry babies in the party.

When an establishment nominee gets elected, the TP party types stay home.
When somebody like Trump wins, the establishment says they will stay home.

I held my nose voting for Romney and McCain, but I can't let the Democrats win simply because my ideal nominee didn't get in.

Then when somebody like DumBama serves two terms, these cry babies sit back and ask how that could happen? My answer to them is Duh!!!!

I didn't vote for Trump in the primaries, but now that he is legitimately the nominee, I will vote for him not because he's Trump, but to keep the Democrats out. And if more Republicans would keep that as a target instead of sobbing their candidate lost, maybe such unity could assure us some kind of Republican in the White House.

I hear this a lot and it is utter bullshit. This stance assumes that the republicans simply deserve my vote (or anyone's vote) rather than having to actually earn it. It is a false assumption on your part to assume that a particular voter is looking for the 'ideal' nominee. I certainly am not looking for ideal at all. All I ask is for someone that bothers to represent me at least a little bit. The current republican party is far more big government, pro war and anti freedom than their supposed 'platform' of smaller government that does not get in your way.

You blame the likes of us that refuse to vote garbage out of blanket fear that 'the other guy is worse.' I blame those that are like you and hold your nose voting for that garbage for the continued crap candidates that we keep getting. Make no mistake, the republicans are no better than the democrats and the continued votes they garner are WHAT IS KEEPING THEM THERE. You want a republican party that you do not have to hold your nose for? You want a candidate that may not have a platform that you can totally get behind but at least stands for a majority of the things you do? Then stop supporting those that do not meet that criteria. You will ALWAYS get a candidate that you have to hold your nose for as long as you are willing to feed them your vote.

The idea that we all need to vote against the other guy rather than voting FOR someone has utterly destroyed our political system and is utterly nonsensical in a democracy. When the goal becomes to stop the other candidate rather than place a decent one in office, you can accept anyone. At that point, what is the difference?

That's exactly my goal, to stop Hillary or any Democrat from taking office.

DumBama won both elections, and with confidence, I can say I did all I could do to stop it. I took the time to go to the polls and vote against him. While I've hated these last seven years plus, at least I don't feel guilty because I let my ego usher him into the White House.

If you waste your vote on a candidate that stands no chance in hell of winning, or otherwise not vote at all, you did cast a vote for Obama, and Hillary if you do the same this election.

You don't change your party during the presidential election, you change your party during the primaries as we have now. I vote for what's better for the country--not what makes me feel good. And this election is very critical with the balance of the Supreme Court at hand. You can vote out a President after four years, but Supreme Court justices are for life, and I'm not about to let them turn my country into a Socialist Utopia because Trump wasn't good enough for my vote. Mickey Mouse is good enough for my vote if it stops these liberals from taking my rights away--particularly my gun rights.

Trump will nominate Obama's nominee for supreme

And you will never like a democratic president no matter how good they are.

The only reason I won't vote trump is I can't vote for who you vote for.

Ill give you one thing the entire system is corrupt and the most important step was saying no to McCain Romney kasich Cruz rubio and jeb.

Yes, we know.....you keep telling us.

Trump might not make a good pick for SC or he might, but we know what Hillary will pick, so I guess we will have to take our chances with Trump.

And I'm cool with that. If trump wins he will be a moderate populice triangulator the GOP will have to govern with and make no mistake who the boss is

As Trump has stated repeatedly, he is a deal maker. I'm sure he'll be better than what we currently have.

I don't think Trump will trade our five most dangerous terrorists in captivity for a lowly US private who deserted his country. I don't think Trump will give Iran a path to nuclear arms, lie about it to the people, and say we really made a great deal. I don't think he will screw up our entire medical care system so that government can get a couple million people insured that were not insured before.

I'm not a big Trump supporter, but when you're at the bottom, the only way to go is up.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If trump were running as a democrat and said he was going to raise taxes on the rich you'd all flip but he said it the other day and not a peep from Republicans.

Might have a point if not for the fact he would need congressional and Senate approval--but he does.

And if trump tries to implement his policies, we will see who the obstructionists are over bringing jobs home, good paying jobs, sending illegal workers home and raising taxes on the rich and closing loopholes.

The Democrats will fight like hell to keep those illegals here. They will do the same with closing loopholes because that's where their contributions come from.

He will have a battle with Congress Republican and Democrat alike depending on the issue. who knows, maybe that's a good thing?

 

[sealybobo]

If trump were running as a democrat and said he was going to raise taxes on the rich you'd all flip but he said it the other day and not a peep from Republicans.

Might have a point if not for the fact he would need congressional and Senate approval--but he does.

And if trump tries to implement his policies, we will see who the obstructionists are over bringing jobs home, good paying jobs, sending illegal workers home and raising taxes on the rich and closing loopholes.

The Democrats will fight like hell to keep those illegals here. They will do the same with closing loopholes because that's where their contributions come from.

He will have a battle with Congress Republican and Democrat alike depending on the issue. who knows, maybe that's a good thing?

I would love for trump to give his word that he would nominate Obama's supreme if he wins. Give his word. That would take the issue off the table. Like trump has a problem with the guy?

 

[FA_Q2]

If all my friends and family are willing to roll the dice on trump, maybe he will try to bring jobs back home. Maybe he is serious about illegals and importing Muslims.

While you roll a joint?

I just don't want another bush or rubio kasich Christie Cruz near the white house. Republicans got to stop only representing the rich. And don't tell me I'm wrong. It's why America said no to another Republican anywhere near the white house.

Hell yea I'll smoke to that

Republicans lost because of the cry babies in the party.

When an establishment nominee gets elected, the TP party types stay home.
When somebody like Trump wins, the establishment says they will stay home.

I held my nose voting for Romney and McCain, but I can't let the Democrats win simply because my ideal nominee didn't get in.

Then when somebody like DumBama serves two terms, these cry babies sit back and ask how that could happen? My answer to them is Duh!!!!

I didn't vote for Trump in the primaries, but now that he is legitimately the nominee, I will vote for him not because he's Trump, but to keep the Democrats out. And if more Republicans would keep that as a target instead of sobbing their candidate lost, maybe such unity could assure us some kind of Republican in the White House.

I hear this a lot and it is utter bullshit. This stance assumes that the republicans simply deserve my vote (or anyone's vote) rather than having to actually earn it. It is a false assumption on your part to assume that a particular voter is looking for the 'ideal' nominee. I certainly am not looking for ideal at all. All I ask is for someone that bothers to represent me at least a little bit. The current republican party is far more big government, pro war and anti freedom than their supposed 'platform' of smaller government that does not get in your way.

You blame the likes of us that refuse to vote garbage out of blanket fear that 'the other guy is worse.' I blame those that are like you and hold your nose voting for that garbage for the continued crap candidates that we keep getting. Make no mistake, the republicans are no better than the democrats and the continued votes they garner are WHAT IS KEEPING THEM THERE. You want a republican party that you do not have to hold your nose for? You want a candidate that may not have a platform that you can totally get behind but at least stands for a majority of the things you do? Then stop supporting those that do not meet that criteria. You will ALWAYS get a candidate that you have to hold your nose for as long as you are willing to feed them your vote.

The idea that we all need to vote against the other guy rather than voting FOR someone has utterly destroyed our political system and is utterly nonsensical in a democracy. When the goal becomes to stop the other candidate rather than place a decent one in office, you can accept anyone. At that point, what is the difference?

That's exactly my goal, to stop Hillary or any Democrat from taking office.

DumBama won both elections, and with confidence, I can say I did all I could do to stop it. I took the time to go to the polls and vote against him. While I've hated these last seven years plus, at least I don't feel guilty because I let my ego usher him into the White House.

If you waste your vote on a candidate that stands no chance in hell of winning, or otherwise not vote at all, you did cast a vote for Obama, and Hillary if you do the same this election.

You don't change your party during the presidential election, you change your party during the primaries as we have now. I vote for what's better for the country--not what makes me feel good. And this election is very critical with the balance of the Supreme Court at hand. You can vote out a President after four years, but Supreme Court justices are for life, and I'm not about to let them turn my country into a Socialist Utopia because Trump wasn't good enough for my vote. Mickey Mouse is good enough for my vote if it stops these liberals from taking my rights away--particularly my gun rights.

If you continue to waste your vote on the trash that the republicans put up then you end up with Trump as the front runner - a creation of the failed republican party thus far.

 

[FA_Q2]

While you roll a joint?

I just don't want another bush or rubio kasich Christie Cruz near the white house. Republicans got to stop only representing the rich. And don't tell me I'm wrong. It's why America said no to another Republican anywhere near the white house.

Hell yea I'll smoke to that

Republicans lost because of the cry babies in the party.

When an establishment nominee gets elected, the TP party types stay home.
When somebody like Trump wins, the establishment says they will stay home.

I held my nose voting for Romney and McCain, but I can't let the Democrats win simply because my ideal nominee didn't get in.

Then when somebody like DumBama serves two terms, these cry babies sit back and ask how that could happen? My answer to them is Duh!!!!

I didn't vote for Trump in the primaries, but now that he is legitimately the nominee, I will vote for him not because he's Trump, but to keep the Democrats out. And if more Republicans would keep that as a target instead of sobbing their candidate lost, maybe such unity could assure us some kind of Republican in the White House.

Instead of whining about a bunch of babies who obviously care more about their little party faction than they do about the country, why don't you vote for an adult party who does care about the country, even if our methods are a little different than what you wanted.

sure, tell us when you find the 'adult' party and we will talk.

Here's a hint. The adult party doesn't think penis size is a valid point of discussion for debates.

Here is another hint - it is not the democrats.

 

[sealybobo]

I just don't want another bush or rubio kasich Christie Cruz near the white house. Republicans got to stop only representing the rich. And don't tell me I'm wrong. It's why America said no to another Republican anywhere near the white house.

Hell yea I'll smoke to that

Republicans lost because of the cry babies in the party.

When an establishment nominee gets elected, the TP party types stay home.
When somebody like Trump wins, the establishment says they will stay home.

I held my nose voting for Romney and McCain, but I can't let the Democrats win simply because my ideal nominee didn't get in.

Then when somebody like DumBama serves two terms, these cry babies sit back and ask how that could happen? My answer to them is Duh!!!!

I didn't vote for Trump in the primaries, but now that he is legitimately the nominee, I will vote for him not because he's Trump, but to keep the Democrats out. And if more Republicans would keep that as a target instead of sobbing their candidate lost, maybe such unity could assure us some kind of Republican in the White House.

Instead of whining about a bunch of babies who obviously care more about their little party faction than they do about the country, why don't you vote for an adult party who does care about the country, even if our methods are a little different than what you wanted.

sure, tell us when you find the 'adult' party and we will talk.

Here's a hint. The adult party doesn't think penis size is a valid point of discussion for debates.

Here is another hint - it is not the democrats.

The thing I like about trump is he doesn't have a bad voting record to point to. Good chance he might be a common sense take no bullshit president.

Either way SNL can't lose

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

While you roll a joint?

I just don't want another bush or rubio kasich Christie Cruz near the white house. Republicans got to stop only representing the rich. And don't tell me I'm wrong. It's why America said no to another Republican anywhere near the white house.

Hell yea I'll smoke to that

Republicans lost because of the cry babies in the party.

When an establishment nominee gets elected, the TP party types stay home.
When somebody like Trump wins, the establishment says they will stay home.

I held my nose voting for Romney and McCain, but I can't let the Democrats win simply because my ideal nominee didn't get in.

Then when somebody like DumBama serves two terms, these cry babies sit back and ask how that could happen? My answer to them is Duh!!!!

I didn't vote for Trump in the primaries, but now that he is legitimately the nominee, I will vote for him not because he's Trump, but to keep the Democrats out. And if more Republicans would keep that as a target instead of sobbing their candidate lost, maybe such unity could assure us some kind of Republican in the White House.

I hear this a lot and it is utter bullshit. This stance assumes that the republicans simply deserve my vote (or anyone's vote) rather than having to actually earn it. It is a false assumption on your part to assume that a particular voter is looking for the 'ideal' nominee. I certainly am not looking for ideal at all. All I ask is for someone that bothers to represent me at least a little bit. The current republican party is far more big government, pro war and anti freedom than their supposed 'platform' of smaller government that does not get in your way.

You blame the likes of us that refuse to vote garbage out of blanket fear that 'the other guy is worse.' I blame those that are like you and hold your nose voting for that garbage for the continued crap candidates that we keep getting. Make no mistake, the republicans are no better than the democrats and the continued votes they garner are WHAT IS KEEPING THEM THERE. You want a republican party that you do not have to hold your nose for? You want a candidate that may not have a platform that you can totally get behind but at least stands for a majority of the things you do? Then stop supporting those that do not meet that criteria. You will ALWAYS get a candidate that you have to hold your nose for as long as you are willing to feed them your vote.

The idea that we all need to vote against the other guy rather than voting FOR someone has utterly destroyed our political system and is utterly nonsensical in a democracy. When the goal becomes to stop the other candidate rather than place a decent one in office, you can accept anyone. At that point, what is the difference?

That's exactly my goal, to stop Hillary or any Democrat from taking office.

DumBama won both elections, and with confidence, I can say I did all I could do to stop it. I took the time to go to the polls and vote against him. While I've hated these last seven years plus, at least I don't feel guilty because I let my ego usher him into the White House.

If you waste your vote on a candidate that stands no chance in hell of winning, or otherwise not vote at all, you did cast a vote for Obama, and Hillary if you do the same this election.

You don't change your party during the presidential election, you change your party during the primaries as we have now. I vote for what's better for the country--not what makes me feel good. And this election is very critical with the balance of the Supreme Court at hand. You can vote out a President after four years, but Supreme Court justices are for life, and I'm not about to let them turn my country into a Socialist Utopia because Trump wasn't good enough for my vote. Mickey Mouse is good enough for my vote if it stops these liberals from taking my rights away--particularly my gun rights.

If you continue to waste your vote on the trash that the republicans put up then you end up with Trump as the front runner - a creation of the failed republican party thus far.

No. People put Trump as the runner because they are lashing out at the Republican party. The conservatives are upset and so is the establishment. This election is historical and I'm glad I'm alive to see it happening.

While I'm not crazy about Trump, I would be more unhappy with another McCain or Romney. Another one of those would be the same ole, same ole.

I'm not voting for Trump--I'm voting against Hilary. That's the only way to look at this. And if you think you're going to change the Republican's mind my not voting or voting in some nobody that has no chance at winning, trust me, you aren't accomplishing anything. That's what happened the last couple of presidential elections.

 

[sealybobo]

I just don't want another bush or rubio kasich Christie Cruz near the white house. Republicans got to stop only representing the rich. And don't tell me I'm wrong. It's why America said no to another Republican anywhere near the white house.

Hell yea I'll smoke to that

Republicans lost because of the cry babies in the party.

When an establishment nominee gets elected, the TP party types stay home.
When somebody like Trump wins, the establishment says they will stay home.

I held my nose voting for Romney and McCain, but I can't let the Democrats win simply because my ideal nominee didn't get in.

Then when somebody like DumBama serves two terms, these cry babies sit back and ask how that could happen? My answer to them is Duh!!!!

I didn't vote for Trump in the primaries, but now that he is legitimately the nominee, I will vote for him not because he's Trump, but to keep the Democrats out. And if more Republicans would keep that as a target instead of sobbing their candidate lost, maybe such unity could assure us some kind of Republican in the White House.

I hear this a lot and it is utter bullshit. This stance assumes that the republicans simply deserve my vote (or anyone's vote) rather than having to actually earn it. It is a false assumption on your part to assume that a particular voter is looking for the 'ideal' nominee. I certainly am not looking for ideal at all. All I ask is for someone that bothers to represent me at least a little bit. The current republican party is far more big government, pro war and anti freedom than their supposed 'platform' of smaller government that does not get in your way.

You blame the likes of us that refuse to vote garbage out of blanket fear that 'the other guy is worse.' I blame those that are like you and hold your nose voting for that garbage for the continued crap candidates that we keep getting. Make no mistake, the republicans are no better than the democrats and the continued votes they garner are WHAT IS KEEPING THEM THERE. You want a republican party that you do not have to hold your nose for? You want a candidate that may not have a platform that you can totally get behind but at least stands for a majority of the things you do? Then stop supporting those that do not meet that criteria. You will ALWAYS get a candidate that you have to hold your nose for as long as you are willing to feed them your vote.

The idea that we all need to vote against the other guy rather than voting FOR someone has utterly destroyed our political system and is utterly nonsensical in a democracy. When the goal becomes to stop the other candidate rather than place a decent one in office, you can accept anyone. At that point, what is the difference?

That's exactly my goal, to stop Hillary or any Democrat from taking office.

DumBama won both elections, and with confidence, I can say I did all I could do to stop it. I took the time to go to the polls and vote against him. While I've hated these last seven years plus, at least I don't feel guilty because I let my ego usher him into the White House.

If you waste your vote on a candidate that stands no chance in hell of winning, or otherwise not vote at all, you did cast a vote for Obama, and Hillary if you do the same this election.

You don't change your party during the presidential election, you change your party during the primaries as we have now. I vote for what's better for the country--not what makes me feel good. And this election is very critical with the balance of the Supreme Court at hand. You can vote out a President after four years, but Supreme Court justices are for life, and I'm not about to let them turn my country into a Socialist Utopia because Trump wasn't good enough for my vote. Mickey Mouse is good enough for my vote if it stops these liberals from taking my rights away--particularly my gun rights.

If you continue to waste your vote on the trash that the republicans put up then you end up with Trump as the front runner - a creation of the failed republican party thus far.

No. People put Trump as the runner because they are lashing out at the Republican party. The conservatives are upset and so is the establishment. This election is historical and I'm glad I'm alive to see it happening.

While I'm not crazy about Trump, I would be more unhappy with another McCain or Romney. Another one of those would be the same ole, same ole.

I'm not voting for Trump--I'm voting against Hilary. That's the only way to look at this. And if you think you're going to change the Republican's mind my not voting or voting in some nobody that has no chance at winning, trust me, you aren't accomplishing anything. That's what happened the last couple of presidential elections.

You know what usually happens? You don't even bother voting this year. Throw your hands up.

 

[sealybobo]

I just don't want another bush or rubio kasich Christie Cruz near the white house. Republicans got to stop only representing the rich. And don't tell me I'm wrong. It's why America said no to another Republican anywhere near the white house.

Hell yea I'll smoke to that

Republicans lost because of the cry babies in the party.

When an establishment nominee gets elected, the TP party types stay home.
When somebody like Trump wins, the establishment says they will stay home.

I held my nose voting for Romney and McCain, but I can't let the Democrats win simply because my ideal nominee didn't get in.

Then when somebody like DumBama serves two terms, these cry babies sit back and ask how that could happen? My answer to them is Duh!!!!

I didn't vote for Trump in the primaries, but now that he is legitimately the nominee, I will vote for him not because he's Trump, but to keep the Democrats out. And if more Republicans would keep that as a target instead of sobbing their candidate lost, maybe such unity could assure us some kind of Republican in the White House.

I hear this a lot and it is utter bullshit. This stance assumes that the republicans simply deserve my vote (or anyone's vote) rather than having to actually earn it. It is a false assumption on your part to assume that a particular voter is looking for the 'ideal' nominee. I certainly am not looking for ideal at all. All I ask is for someone that bothers to represent me at least a little bit. The current republican party is far more big government, pro war and anti freedom than their supposed 'platform' of smaller government that does not get in your way.

You blame the likes of us that refuse to vote garbage out of blanket fear that 'the other guy is worse.' I blame those that are like you and hold your nose voting for that garbage for the continued crap candidates that we keep getting. Make no mistake, the republicans are no better than the democrats and the continued votes they garner are WHAT IS KEEPING THEM THERE. You want a republican party that you do not have to hold your nose for? You want a candidate that may not have a platform that you can totally get behind but at least stands for a majority of the things you do? Then stop supporting those that do not meet that criteria. You will ALWAYS get a candidate that you have to hold your nose for as long as you are willing to feed them your vote.

The idea that we all need to vote against the other guy rather than voting FOR someone has utterly destroyed our political system and is utterly nonsensical in a democracy. When the goal becomes to stop the other candidate rather than place a decent one in office, you can accept anyone. At that point, what is the difference?

That's exactly my goal, to stop Hillary or any Democrat from taking office.

DumBama won both elections, and with confidence, I can say I did all I could do to stop it. I took the time to go to the polls and vote against him. While I've hated these last seven years plus, at least I don't feel guilty because I let my ego usher him into the White House.

If you waste your vote on a candidate that stands no chance in hell of winning, or otherwise not vote at all, you did cast a vote for Obama, and Hillary if you do the same this election.

You don't change your party during the presidential election, you change your party during the primaries as we have now. I vote for what's better for the country--not what makes me feel good. And this election is very critical with the balance of the Supreme Court at hand. You can vote out a President after four years, but Supreme Court justices are for life, and I'm not about to let them turn my country into a Socialist Utopia because Trump wasn't good enough for my vote. Mickey Mouse is good enough for my vote if it stops these liberals from taking my rights away--particularly my gun rights.

If you continue to waste your vote on the trash that the republicans put up then you end up with Trump as the front runner - a creation of the failed republican party thus far.

No. People put Trump as the runner because they are lashing out at the Republican party. The conservatives are upset and so is the establishment. This election is historical and I'm glad I'm alive to see it happening.

While I'm not crazy about Trump, I would be more unhappy with another McCain or Romney. Another one of those would be the same ole, same ole.

I'm not voting for Trump--I'm voting against Hilary. That's the only way to look at this. And if you think you're going to change the Republican's mind my not voting or voting in some nobody that has no chance at winning, trust me, you aren't accomplishing anything. That's what happened the last couple of presidential elections.

You guys act like the economy is bad and we need a new direction. Obama's great hillary will take over nice try

 

[davecmarino]

I love all the mental diarrhea being thrown around in this thread. Hillary is going to drop like a rock when she faces Trump. She's got way too much dirt in her past to not look like a walking pile of shit when it hits her fan. See you fools at the polls.


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[sealybobo]

I love all the mental diarrhea being thrown around in this thread. Hillary is going to drop like a rock when she faces Trump. She's got way too much dirt in her past to not look like a walking pile of shit when it hits her fan. See you fools at the polls.


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Not without women or Hispanics.

But they're already saying it's neck and neck at the polls. Agreed. Let's see the debates, what the corporate media pushes and then how many people show up.

 

[davecmarino]

I love all the mental diarrhea being thrown around in this thread. Hillary is going to drop like a rock when she faces Trump. She's got way too much dirt in her past to not look like a walking pile of shit when it hits her fan. See you fools at the polls.


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Not without women or Hispanics.

But they're already saying it's neck and neck at the polls. Agreed. Let's see the debates, what the corporate media pushes and then how many people show up.

I'll bet you Hillary does a lot worse with women than the left is betting on. The Hispanic vote is even going to be a couple points short. She's got no love and if you've been watching her real turnouts compared to Bernie and Trump you will get a feel for it.