USDA targets candy, cola in new school nutrition regulations

[martybegan]

Natural sugar and refined sugar are two different things.

How can so many people defend letting kids have candy and sugary drinks in school?

how is glucose different than glucose? or fructose different from fructose? Or Sucrose different from sucrose?

Are you saying that there is no difference between fructose and refined sugar? You should do a little research.

Fructose is a simple sugar, "Sugar" contains sucrose, which is a combination of fructose and glucose.

Its all sugar.

 

[NoNukes]

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This is for vending machines that the students pay for themselves, using money provided to them by thier parents. The feds have nothing to do with them, they are via arrangements with the local schools themselves.

Provided meals are a seperate issue.

(My bold)

Most children pick the saltiest, sweetest, fattiest food they can find. The whole point to schools is to teach - & good nutrition is teachable. Vending machine food/drink is - left to its own devices - profitable & bad for you. Yah, the parents pay for the stuff, & then pay for the dental, obesity, weak bones, poor posture & on & on. If they don't pay directly through their own health insurance, we all pay through Medicare/Medicaid. & in fact we can't keep up - as fat/salt/sugar took off in processed food in the '60s, the rate of high BP, cardiac problems, obesity & etc. ballooned right along with our children & adolescents. That trend isn't sustainable.

Vending machines are a money-maker for local schools. I sympathize with the schools, but killing our children in slow motion so that the band can have new uniforms is not an acceptable tradeoff. Bad food & drink simply shouldn't be available in the schools.

Furthermore, the earlier that children take to salty/fatty/oversweetened food/drink, the more salt/fat/sweet they demand, making the problems worse & accelerating. It's possible to "reset" children's tastebuds, but it's best done ASAP, when they're still young. Then their appetite for salt/fat/sweet drops back to more natural levels.

Separate meals - free or reduced breakfast/lunch prices - are meant to improve educational outcomes. It's not a question of coddling our children with tacos & pizza & whatnot - it's providing protein & carbs in reasonable proportion & portions, so that our students aren't distracted from learning by hunger.

Both nutrition and cooking should be taught in schools.

 

[NoNukes]

how is glucose different than glucose? or fructose different from fructose? Or Sucrose different from sucrose?

Are you saying that there is no difference between fructose and refined sugar? You should do a little research.

Fructose is a simple sugar, "Sugar" contains sucrose, which is a combination of fructose and glucose.

Its all sugar.

Some sugars are much worse for you than others.

 

[Moonglow]

Evidently you should be attacking Bush also

In some cases, the proposed measures are already being implemented. The draft regulations for beverages, for example, largely mirror voluntary standards adopted by the American Beverage Association back in 2006.

"As a result of the industry's voluntary efforts, we have reduced beverage calories shipped to schools by 90 percent," the trade group said Thursday.

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[martybegan]

Are you saying that there is no difference between fructose and refined sugar? You should do a little research.

Fructose is a simple sugar, "Sugar" contains sucrose, which is a combination of fructose and glucose.

Its all sugar.

Some sugars are much worse for you than others.

Feh, Ill eat my HFCS and like it. The differences are quibbling, and mostly in the minds of conspriacy nuts.

 

[Dragonlady]

Sucrose goes directly into the bloodstream triggering an insulin release combat the high levels of sugar. The net result is what my ex-roommate used to refer to as "yo-yo glycemia".

Fructose, honey, and other forms of sugar are not as bad for the system as refined white sugar because other forms of sugar are metabolized through the liver and released more slowly into the bloodstream.

Anybody who so desperately needs their soda pop that they would walk out of school without it, really needs to be seeing a nutritionalist about their dietary habits. Soda is so bad for your health that NO ONE should be drinking it on a daily basis.

 

[ClosedCaption]

how is glucose different than glucose? or fructose different from fructose? Or Sucrose different from sucrose?

Are you saying that there is no difference between fructose and refined sugar? You should do a little research.

Fructose is a simple sugar, "Sugar" contains sucrose, which is a combination of fructose and glucose.

Its all sugar.

It's all Sugar is how simple ppl put it but heres an example:

It's all Fish. Until someone tells to eat Fugu which is the most poision fish you can find

Natural Sugar and Processed sugars are very differently. And no matter how many times you say "its all sugar" you're body wont listen and treat them differently

 

[Troubled_CA]

Raise your hand if you can identify the section of the Constitution that authorizes the Fed Govt to regulate what foods are served in schools.

morons

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

YOU Cons like to wrap yourself in the constitution but apparently haven't READ IT!

 

[martybegan]

Raise your hand if you can identify the section of the Constitution that authorizes the Fed Govt to regulate what foods are served in schools.

morons

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

YOU Cons like to wrap yourself in the constitution but apparently haven't READ IT!

So basically the premable allows the feds to do EVERYTHING.

 

[martybegan]

Are you saying that there is no difference between fructose and refined sugar? You should do a little research.

Fructose is a simple sugar, "Sugar" contains sucrose, which is a combination of fructose and glucose.

Its all sugar.

It's all Sugar is how simple ppl put it but heres an example:

It's all Fish. Until someone tells to eat Fugu which is the most poision fish you can find

Natural Sugar and Processed sugars are very differently. And no matter how many times you say "its all sugar" you're body wont listen and treat them differently

Fugu contains a poison. are you saying fructose is a poision?

Its not me ignoring chemistry, its people like you. yes they can be metabolized differently but in the end they all provide energy to cells.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Raise your hand if you can identify the section of the Constitution that authorizes the Fed Govt to regulate what foods are served in schools.

morons

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

YOU Cons like to wrap yourself in the constitution but apparently haven't READ IT!

That part merely explains WHY the Constitution is being written. That part has no force of law, since it makes no commands.

Did somebody say something about how people should READ IT?

 

[martybegan]

Sucrose goes directly into the bloodstream triggering an insulin release combat the high levels of sugar. The net result is what my ex-roommate used to refer to as "yo-yo glycemia".

Fructose, honey, and other forms of sugar are not as bad for the system as refined white sugar because other forms of sugar are metabolized through the liver and released more slowly into the bloodstream.

Anybody who so desperately needs their soda pop that they would walk out of school without it, really needs to be seeing a nutritionalist about their dietary habits. Soda is so bad for your health that NO ONE should be drinking it on a daily basis.

So whos right? the anti HFCS nutters, or now the "cane sugar is baaad" nutters?

Its funny that with the price of corn going up, some manufactuers are switching back to cane sugar as an alternative.

 

[martybegan]

Feh, Ill eat my HFCS and like it. The differences are quibbling, and mostly in the minds of conspriacy nuts.

Do us all a favor and just stick that gun you hug each night, in your mouth and fire.

WE don't want to have to pay through the nose for YOUR healthcare when your
OLD AND MORBIDLY OBESE!

How about you mind your own fucking buisness?

I've have paid plenty of medicare taxes by the time im old enough. Pound sand.

Also, reported for advocating suicide. Asshat.

 

[Moonglow]

Corn is down and plans are for a record 14million bushels

 

[Little-Acorn]

Raise your hand if you can identify the section of the Constitution that authorizes the Fed Govt to regulate what foods are served in schools.

So far, only one person has tried to answer this question... and gotten it wrong, while spending most of his time calling people names.

No one else has even tried.

Clock is ticking......

 

[Troubled_CA]

Did somebody say something about how people should READ IT?

the moron does not know when to stop.

Section. 8.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

an entire country of morbidly obese would be the opposite.

 

[martybegan]

Did somebody say something about how people should READ IT?

the moron does not know when to stop.

Section. 8.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

an entire country of morbidly obese would be the opposite.

So if someone decides that the general welfare of the US would benefit from you having to wear a gag 23 hours a day, then it would be perfectly acceptable?

 

[ClosedCaption]

Fructose is a simple sugar, "Sugar" contains sucrose, which is a combination of fructose and glucose.

Its all sugar.

It's all Sugar is how simple ppl put it but heres an example:

It's all Fish. Until someone tells to eat Fugu which is the most poision fish you can find

Natural Sugar and Processed sugars are very differently. And no matter how many times you say "its all sugar" you're body wont listen and treat them differently

Fugu contains a poison. are you saying fructose is a poision?

Its not me ignoring chemistry, its people like you. yes they can be metabolized differently but in the end they all provide energy to cells.

Its a fish. And a fish is a fish the same way you said Sugar is Sugar. Suddenly you realize that there are differences. Congrats, you're almost there.

Energy to cells is not a point you brought up before so is it safe to assume you've dropped the "There is no difference between natural and processed sugar" argument.

That would be a step in realities direction

 

[martybegan]

Did somebody say something about how people should READ IT?

the moron does not know when to stop.

Section. 8.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

an entire country of morbidly obese would be the opposite.

So if someone decides that the general welfare of the US would benefit from you having to wear a gag 23 hours a day, then it would be perfectly acceptable?

 

[martybegan]

It's all Sugar is how simple ppl put it but heres an example:

It's all Fish. Until someone tells to eat Fugu which is the most poision fish you can find

Natural Sugar and Processed sugars are very differently. And no matter how many times you say "its all sugar" you're body wont listen and treat them differently

Fugu contains a poison. are you saying fructose is a poision?

Its not me ignoring chemistry, its people like you. yes they can be metabolized differently but in the end they all provide energy to cells.

Its a fish. And a fish is a fish the same way you said Sugar is Sugar. Suddenly you realize that there are differences. Congrats, you're almost there.

Energy to cells is not a point you brought up before so is it safe to assume you've dropped the "There is no difference between natural and processed sugar" argument.

That would be a step in realities direction

What I fail to see is the giant conspiracy that HFCS is somehow poisoning people, which is what is being claimed. Metobolic differences do not equate immidiately to health issues or risks.

But its sensless to argue with a nanny state busybody such as yourself, because your solution is always to regulate how people live "for thier own good"

If you remove the fugu poision, isnt fugu flesh pretty much the same chemically as tuna flesh?