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USS liberty
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georgephillip
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How many more Americans should die for Israel?
Why don't you go next?
Why don't you go next?
Marc39
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How many more Americans should die for Israel?
Why don't you go next?
Israel saves American lives. You save coupons, loser.
Barack Obama...
4/10, White House news conferenceMany of the same forces that threaten Israel also threaten the United States and our efforts to secure peace and stability in the Middle East. Our alliance with Israel serves our national security interests.
georgephillip
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What makes you think Obama is worth wasting piss on?
Oh wait...Ivy League
Why don't you both follow Pat Tillman's lead?
Oh wait...Ivy League
Why don't you both follow Pat Tillman's lead?
P F Tinmore
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How many more Americans should die for Israel?
Why don't you go next?
Israel saves American lives. You save coupons, loser.
Barack Obama...
4/10, White House news conferenceMany of the same forces that threaten Israel also threaten the United States and our efforts to secure peace and stability in the Middle East. Our alliance with Israel serves our national security interests.
So now you are pimping Obama?
How low can you go?
Marc39
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How many more Americans should die for Israel?
Why don't you go next?
Israel saves American lives. You save coupons, loser.
Barack Obama...
4/10, White House news conferenceMany of the same forces that threaten Israel also threaten the United States and our efforts to secure peace and stability in the Middle East. Our alliance with Israel serves our national security interests.
So now you are pimping Obama?
How low can you go?
Go to sleep, boy. You add nothing but space between your ears.
georgephillip
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On the evening of September 26, 2006 Ray McGovern was giving a talk on Iraq to a crowd of about 400 in Springfield, Missouri. Ray, a 30-year veteran of Army intelligence and the CIA mentioned the Liberty in passing and received almost 400 blank stares in response.
One audience member whose stare was anything but blank held up his hand when Ray asked how many in the crowd had ever heard of the attack on Liberty.
Ray called on him:
"Ramrod straight he stood:
"'Sir, Sergeant Bryce Lockwood, United States Marine Corps, retired. I am a member of the USS Liberty crew, Sir.'
"Catching my breath, I asked him if he would be willing to tell us what happened.
"'Sir, I have not been able to do that. It is hard. But it has been almost 40 years, and I would like to try this evening, Sir.'
"You could hear a pin drop for the next 15 minutes, as Lockwood gave us his personal account of what happened to him, his colleagues, and his ship on the afternoon of June 8, 1967.
"He was a linguist assigned to collect communications intelligence from the USS Liberty, which was among the ugliest-and most easily identifiable-ships in the fleet with antennae springing out in all directions.
"Lockwood told of the events of that fateful day, beginning with the six-hour naval and air surveillance of the Liberty by the Israeli navy and air force on the morning of June 8.
"After the air attacks including thousand-pound bombs and napalm, three sixty-ton torpedo boats lined up like a firing squad, pointing their torpedo tubes at the Liberty's starboard hull.
"Lockwood had been ordered to throw the extremely sensitive cryptological equipment overboard and had just walked beyond the bulwark separating the NSA intelligence unit from the rest of the ship when, he recalled, he sensed a large black object, a tremendous explosion, and sheet of flame.
"The torpedo had struck dead center in the NSA space."
"The cold, oily water brought Lockwood back to consciousness. Around him were 25 dead colleagues; but he heard moaning. Three were still alive; one of Lockwood's shipmates dragged one survivor up the hatch.
"Lockwood was able to lift the two others, one-by-one, onto his shoulder and carry them up through the hatch.
"This meant alternatively banging on the hatch for someone to open it and swimming back to fish his shipmate out of the water lest he float out to sea through the 39-foot hole made by the torpedo.
"At that Lockwood stopped speaking. It was enough. Hard, very hard-even after almost 40 years."
Not as hard as understanding why any more Americans should die for the Jewish State of Israel.
Ray McGovern
One audience member whose stare was anything but blank held up his hand when Ray asked how many in the crowd had ever heard of the attack on Liberty.
Ray called on him:
"Ramrod straight he stood:
"'Sir, Sergeant Bryce Lockwood, United States Marine Corps, retired. I am a member of the USS Liberty crew, Sir.'
"Catching my breath, I asked him if he would be willing to tell us what happened.
"'Sir, I have not been able to do that. It is hard. But it has been almost 40 years, and I would like to try this evening, Sir.'
"You could hear a pin drop for the next 15 minutes, as Lockwood gave us his personal account of what happened to him, his colleagues, and his ship on the afternoon of June 8, 1967.
"He was a linguist assigned to collect communications intelligence from the USS Liberty, which was among the ugliest-and most easily identifiable-ships in the fleet with antennae springing out in all directions.
"Lockwood told of the events of that fateful day, beginning with the six-hour naval and air surveillance of the Liberty by the Israeli navy and air force on the morning of June 8.
"After the air attacks including thousand-pound bombs and napalm, three sixty-ton torpedo boats lined up like a firing squad, pointing their torpedo tubes at the Liberty's starboard hull.
"Lockwood had been ordered to throw the extremely sensitive cryptological equipment overboard and had just walked beyond the bulwark separating the NSA intelligence unit from the rest of the ship when, he recalled, he sensed a large black object, a tremendous explosion, and sheet of flame.
"The torpedo had struck dead center in the NSA space."
"The cold, oily water brought Lockwood back to consciousness. Around him were 25 dead colleagues; but he heard moaning. Three were still alive; one of Lockwood's shipmates dragged one survivor up the hatch.
"Lockwood was able to lift the two others, one-by-one, onto his shoulder and carry them up through the hatch.
"This meant alternatively banging on the hatch for someone to open it and swimming back to fish his shipmate out of the water lest he float out to sea through the 39-foot hole made by the torpedo.
"At that Lockwood stopped speaking. It was enough. Hard, very hard-even after almost 40 years."
Not as hard as understanding why any more Americans should die for the Jewish State of Israel.
Ray McGovern
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On the evening of September 26, 2006 Ray McGovern was giving a talk on Iraq to a crowd of about 400 in Springfield, Missouri. Ray, a 30-year veteran of Army intelligence and the CIA mentioned the Liberty in passing and received almost 400 blank stares in response.
The US govt closed the book on the Liberty a long time ago.
Time for you to do the same, Nazi Georgie.
georgephillip
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When you take your "two beautiful children" on a walking tour of Rafah, Pricess.
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When you take your "two beautiful children" on a walking tour of Rafah, Pricess.
Rafah, where they boast of killing their own children.
"We Desire Death Like You Desire Life."
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B4fFyZ_1sQ]YouTube - Hamas boast of using civilians as human shields[/ame]
georgephillip
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"Virtually everyone: Republican, Democrat-Conservative, Liberal. The fear factor is non-partisan, you might say, and palpable.
"The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) brags that it is the most influential foreign policy lobbying organization on Capitol Hill, and has demonstrated that time and again-and not only on Capitol Hill.
"Seldom has the Lobby's power been as clearly demonstrated as in its ability to suppress the awful truth that on June 8, 1967, during the Six Day War:
" Israel deliberately attacked the intelligence collection ship USS Liberty, in full awareness it was a U.S. Navy ship, and did its best to sink it and leave no survivors;
o "The Israelis would have succeeded had they not broken off the attack upon learning, from an intercepted message, that the commander of the U.S. 6th Fleet had launched carrier fighters to the scene; and
o "By that time 34 of the Liberty's crew had been killed and over 170 wounded."
AIPAC or USA
Who's First?
Ray McGovern
"The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) brags that it is the most influential foreign policy lobbying organization on Capitol Hill, and has demonstrated that time and again-and not only on Capitol Hill.
"Seldom has the Lobby's power been as clearly demonstrated as in its ability to suppress the awful truth that on June 8, 1967, during the Six Day War:
" Israel deliberately attacked the intelligence collection ship USS Liberty, in full awareness it was a U.S. Navy ship, and did its best to sink it and leave no survivors;
o "The Israelis would have succeeded had they not broken off the attack upon learning, from an intercepted message, that the commander of the U.S. 6th Fleet had launched carrier fighters to the scene; and
o "By that time 34 of the Liberty's crew had been killed and over 170 wounded."
AIPAC or USA
Who's First?
Ray McGovern
Marc39
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"Virtually everyone: Republican, Democrat-Conservative, Liberal. The fear factor is non-partisan, you might say, and palpable.
"The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) brags that it is the most influential foreign policy lobbying organization on Capitol Hill, and has demonstrated that time and again-and not only on Capitol Hill.
Former Reagan Secretary of State George Schultz...
[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Turmoil-Triumph-Diplomacy-Victory-American/dp/0684803321/ref=sr_1_1?s=gateway&ie=UTF8&qid=1285721273&sr=8-1]Amazon.com: Turmoil and Triumph: Diplomacy, Power, and the Victory of the American Ideal (9780684803326): George Shultz: Gateway[/ame]The US supports Israel not out of favoritism based on political pressure or influence, but because both political parties, and virtually all our national leaders, agree with the American people's view that supporting Israel is politically sound and morally just." Those who blame Israel and its Jewish supporters for US policies they do not support are wrong. They are wrong because support for Israel is in our best interests. They are wrong because Israel and its supporters have the right to try to influence US policy. And they are wrong because the US government is responsible for the policies it adopts, not any other state or any myriad lobbyists and groups that battle daily, sometimes with lies , to win American support.
The clueless Georgie gets smacked down, again.
georgephillip
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How much money has George Schultz made from the sale of US arms to Israel.
You might as well quote Henry Kissinger.
You might as well quote Henry Kissinger.
he started out cluelessHow much money has George Schultz made from the sale of US arms to Israel.
You might as well quote Henry Kissinger.
You ran out of gas, already, clueless one?
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How much money has George Schultz made from the sale of US arms to Israel.
You might as well quote Henry Kissinger.
Sorry to injure your low self-esteem, again, Georgie, but, when you receive the awards given to former Secretary of State George Schultz, below, you won't be such a worthless pustule...
2007 Truman Medal for Economic Policy.
2007 Emma Lazarus Statue of Liberty Award.
2006 National World War II Museum, American Spirit Award.
2005 Lead21 Lifetime Achievement Award.
2002 Reagan Distinguished American Award.
2002 Ralph Bunche Award
American Academy of Arts and Sciences.
American Philosophical Society
James H. Doolittle Award.
Elliot Richardson Prize.
John Witherspoon Medal.
2001 Eisenhower Medal for Leadership.
2000 Woodrow Wilson Award for Public Service .
1996 Koret Prize.
1992 Seoul Peace Prize (Korea).
1992 United States Military Academy, Sylvanus Thayer Award.
1989 Presidential Medal of Freedom.
1989 Order of the Rising Sun with Paulownia Flowers, Grand Cordon (Japan).
1989 Jefferson Award.
1986 Freedoms Foundation, George Washington Medal.
georgephillip
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Only devout baby killers/fuckers believe George Schultz is anything except Bechtel's bitch.
Which explains your support.
Which explains your support.
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Only devout baby killers/fuckers believe George Schultz is anything except Bechtel's bitch.
Which explains your support.
Your self esteem is about rock bottom, eh, loser?
Still no condemnations from you over the Muslim genocide of children, men and women in Darfur and Sudan.
You're a loser and a fraud, Georgie
P F Tinmore
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Only devout baby killers/fuckers believe George Schultz is anything except Bechtel's bitch.
Which explains your support.
Your self esteem is about rock bottom, eh, loser?
Still no condemnations from you over the Muslim genocide of children, men and women in Darfur and Sudan.
You're a loser and a fraud, Georgie
What does that have to do with Israel's attack on the USS Liberty?
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