Vaccine bill defeated in Oklahoma!

[Toddsterpatriot]

Except no one claimed they were.

So why insist on people getting Poison injected in them because other people think it's the right thing to do?

So why insist on people getting Poison injected in them

Because it isn't poison. Because deaths and injuries are reduced, not eliminated, with a vaccinated population.

For some people it is, just because someone says someone can get vaccinated does not mean that they will live through it...
No one one way or the other Knows the long term affects of vaccinations…

For some people it is, just because someone says someone can get vaccinated does not mean that they will live through it...

Exactly. If you get a vaccine, you may die. Did anyone in this thread claim otherwise?

No one one way or the other Knows the long term affects of vaccinations…

The long-term effects of smallpox and polio were more serious than the effects of their vaccines.

That's why you should be a choice, what you don't know will not hurt you…

Yes, people should be free to make stupid choices, even if their children pay with their lives.

 

[Rustic]

So why insist on people getting Poison injected in them because other people think it's the right thing to do?

So why insist on people getting Poison injected in them

Because it isn't poison. Because deaths and injuries are reduced, not eliminated, with a vaccinated population.

For some people it is, just because someone says someone can get vaccinated does not mean that they will live through it...
No one one way or the other Knows the long term affects of vaccinations…

For some people it is, just because someone says someone can get vaccinated does not mean that they will live through it...

Exactly. If you get a vaccine, you may die. Did anyone in this thread claim otherwise?

No one one way or the other Knows the long term affects of vaccinations…

The long-term effects of smallpox and polio were more serious than the effects of their vaccines.

That's why you should be a choice, what you don't know will not hurt you…

Yes, people should be free to make stupid choices, even if their children pay with their lives.

There are many areas were vaccinations are not available, then there's also areas where vaccinations are not personally acceptable whether it be religion, culture or what have you…

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So why insist on people getting Poison injected in them

Because it isn't poison. Because deaths and injuries are reduced, not eliminated, with a vaccinated population.

For some people it is, just because someone says someone can get vaccinated does not mean that they will live through it...
No one one way or the other Knows the long term affects of vaccinations…

For some people it is, just because someone says someone can get vaccinated does not mean that they will live through it...

Exactly. If you get a vaccine, you may die. Did anyone in this thread claim otherwise?

No one one way or the other Knows the long term affects of vaccinations…

The long-term effects of smallpox and polio were more serious than the effects of their vaccines.

That's why you should be a choice, what you don't know will not hurt you…

Yes, people should be free to make stupid choices, even if their children pay with their lives.

There are many areas were vaccinations are not available, then there's also areas where vaccinations are not personally acceptable whether it be religion, culture or what have you…

Yes, those areas have higher levels of these preventable diseases.

 

[Rustic]

For some people it is, just because someone says someone can get vaccinated does not mean that they will live through it...
No one one way or the other Knows the long term affects of vaccinations…

For some people it is, just because someone says someone can get vaccinated does not mean that they will live through it...

Exactly. If you get a vaccine, you may die. Did anyone in this thread claim otherwise?

No one one way or the other Knows the long term affects of vaccinations…

The long-term effects of smallpox and polio were more serious than the effects of their vaccines.

That's why you should be a choice, what you don't know will not hurt you…

Yes, people should be free to make stupid choices, even if their children pay with their lives.

There are many areas were vaccinations are not available, then there's also areas where vaccinations are not personally acceptable whether it be religion, culture or what have you…

Yes, those areas have higher levels of these preventable diseases.

It is none of your business whether someone is vaccinated or not...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

For some people it is, just because someone says someone can get vaccinated does not mean that they will live through it...

Exactly. If you get a vaccine, you may die. Did anyone in this thread claim otherwise?

No one one way or the other Knows the long term affects of vaccinations…

The long-term effects of smallpox and polio were more serious than the effects of their vaccines.

That's why you should be a choice, what you don't know will not hurt you…

Yes, people should be free to make stupid choices, even if their children pay with their lives.

There are many areas were vaccinations are not available, then there's also areas where vaccinations are not personally acceptable whether it be religion, culture or what have you…

Yes, those areas have higher levels of these preventable diseases.

It is none of your business whether someone is vaccinated or not...

Exactly. You can't fix stupid.

 

[Montrovant]

When you put the lives of other at rise it is certainly their business.

And when you live in any society or community there are obligations that take precedence over personal choice. In our society, preventing the spread of disease is one of them. Immunization has been proved beyond doubt to eliminate diseases and at little risk to the individual.

That is wrong headed, "it takes a village" is bullshit....
You watch too many movies

You fail to understand how society works. We're certainly not a village but we are very dependent on others and with that dependency comes rules. 96% of the people on the planet live in 4% of the land mass. We are essential packed in like sardines compared to life a few hundred years ago. Unless you live in a cave in the wilderness, what you do effects others and vice versus.

When you refuse to vaccinate your children you are putting my children at risk. If you refuse to pay your taxes, you're putting the financial burden on others. The air you pollute others must breath. Society simply can not function if it's member only obey the rules they are in agree with. Freedom has it's limits in any organized society.

You're assuming you're right on these issues, you could not be more wrong. Vaccinating my children will not save a single life, polar bears are not drowning, taxation without representation as what's happening in this country… Big brother is not always right in fact, they are almost always wrong…

Vaccinating my children will not save a single life

Hopefully you'll never see the error in your statement.

There is no guarantee that vaccinations will not harm my kids... and there's no guarantee that vaccines will protect them.

That's your argument? Do you refuse all medical care, since it all comes with risk?

 

[Montrovant]

Vaccinating my children will not save a single life

Hopefully you'll never see the error in your statement.

There is no guarantee that vaccinations will not harm my kids... and there's no guarantee that vaccines will protect them.

And no one has made those claims.

So why force them on them?
For all I know vaccines would fuck my kids up beyond repair…

So why force them on them?

We already explained.....public health.

For all I know vaccines would fuck my kids up beyond repair

For all I know, your kids would die of a preventable disease.

Out here in western South Dakota I don't think I have to worry about so-called preventable diseases…

Is there some mystical barrier which keeps preventable diseases out of western South Dakota?

 

[Rustic]

That's why you should be a choice, what you don't know will not hurt you…

Yes, people should be free to make stupid choices, even if their children pay with their lives.

There are many areas were vaccinations are not available, then there's also areas where vaccinations are not personally acceptable whether it be religion, culture or what have you…

Yes, those areas have higher levels of these preventable diseases.

It is none of your business whether someone is vaccinated or not...

Exactly. You can't fix stupid.

Control freak… LOL

 

[Rustic]

That is wrong headed, "it takes a village" is bullshit....
You watch too many movies

You fail to understand how society works. We're certainly not a village but we are very dependent on others and with that dependency comes rules. 96% of the people on the planet live in 4% of the land mass. We are essential packed in like sardines compared to life a few hundred years ago. Unless you live in a cave in the wilderness, what you do effects others and vice versus.

When you refuse to vaccinate your children you are putting my children at risk. If you refuse to pay your taxes, you're putting the financial burden on others. The air you pollute others must breath. Society simply can not function if it's member only obey the rules they are in agree with. Freedom has it's limits in any organized society.

You're assuming you're right on these issues, you could not be more wrong. Vaccinating my children will not save a single life, polar bears are not drowning, taxation without representation as what's happening in this country… Big brother is not always right in fact, they are almost always wrong…

Vaccinating my children will not save a single life

Hopefully you'll never see the error in your statement.

There is no guarantee that vaccinations will not harm my kids... and there's no guarantee that vaccines will protect them.

That's your argument? Do you refuse all medical care, since it all comes with risk?

All of it should be personal choice, it does not take a fucking Village, we are not all in this together, and we do not need a safe space on every corner for snowflakes… Shit happens

 

[Rustic]

There is no guarantee that vaccinations will not harm my kids... and there's no guarantee that vaccines will protect them.

And no one has made those claims.

So why force them on them?
For all I know vaccines would fuck my kids up beyond repair…

So why force them on them?

We already explained.....public health.

For all I know vaccines would fuck my kids up beyond repair

For all I know, your kids would die of a preventable disease.

Out here in western South Dakota I don't think I have to worry about so-called preventable diseases…

Is there some mystical barrier which keeps preventable diseases out of western South Dakota?

No we just don't live life that way, Worrying on what "might" happen...

 

[Unkotare]

Well we do need to decrease the surplus population........


(Was that too Scrooge like?)

No, we don't

 

[Unkotare]

You fail to understand how society works. We're certainly not a village but we are very dependent on others and with that dependency comes rules. 96% of the people on the planet live in 4% of the land mass. We are essential packed in like sardines compared to life a few hundred years ago. Unless you live in a cave in the wilderness, what you do effects others and vice versus.

When you refuse to vaccinate your children you are putting my children at risk. If you refuse to pay your taxes, you're putting the financial burden on others. The air you pollute others must breath. Society simply can not function if it's member only obey the rules they are in agree with. Freedom has it's limits in any organized society.

You're assuming you're right on these issues, you could not be more wrong. Vaccinating my children will not save a single life, polar bears are not drowning, taxation without representation as what's happening in this country… Big brother is not always right in fact, they are almost always wrong…

Vaccinating my children will not save a single life

Hopefully you'll never see the error in your statement.

There is no guarantee that vaccinations will not harm my kids... and there's no guarantee that vaccines will protect them.

That's your argument? Do you refuse all medical care, since it all comes with risk?

.....
we are not all in this together.....

We're not?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, people should be free to make stupid choices, even if their children pay with their lives.

There are many areas were vaccinations are not available, then there's also areas where vaccinations are not personally acceptable whether it be religion, culture or what have you…

Yes, those areas have higher levels of these preventable diseases.

It is none of your business whether someone is vaccinated or not...

Exactly. You can't fix stupid.

Control freak… LOL

Moron...LOL

 

[Rustic]

You're assuming you're right on these issues, you could not be more wrong. Vaccinating my children will not save a single life, polar bears are not drowning, taxation without representation as what's happening in this country… Big brother is not always right in fact, they are almost always wrong…

Vaccinating my children will not save a single life

Hopefully you'll never see the error in your statement.

There is no guarantee that vaccinations will not harm my kids... and there's no guarantee that vaccines will protect them.

That's your argument? Do you refuse all medical care, since it all comes with risk?

.....
we are not all in this together.....

We're not?

We really are not... getting along is way overrated

 

[Unkotare]

Vaccinating my children will not save a single life

Hopefully you'll never see the error in your statement.

There is no guarantee that vaccinations will not harm my kids... and there's no guarantee that vaccines will protect them.

That's your argument? Do you refuse all medical care, since it all comes with risk?

.....
we are not all in this together.....

We're not?

We really are not... getting along is way overrated

So, you'd be ok riding in an elevator with someone who had tuberculosis? Their problem not yours, right?


And if your neighbor's house were burning down, you wouldn't give a shit?

 

[Preacher]

Still you cannot prove that vaccines have a 100% prevention and safety rate....

Since I've never made either claim....why would I try to prove that?

So basically they cannot be proven that they are 100% in prevention and safety. It sounds like to me it's a wash… Whether someone chooses to vaccinate or doesn't it really doesn't matter does it?

So basically they cannot be proven that they are 100% in prevention and safety.

Yes. Let me know if anyone on this thread claimed otherwise.

Whether someone chooses to vaccinate or doesn't it really doesn't matter does it?

Look at recent outbreaks of preventable diseases. It does matter.

Vaccinations should be 100% choice, anything else is unacceptable

loon... no... because if you aren't vaccinated OTHER people get sick.

So the vaccines don't work for the other people retard?

 

[Ringel05]

Well we do need to decrease the surplus population........


(Was that too Scrooge like?)

No, we don't

So I should work on my Scrooge impersonation?

 

[ScienceRocks]

So people will die...

The anti-science party strikes again!

 

[Rustic]

There is no guarantee that vaccinations will not harm my kids... and there's no guarantee that vaccines will protect them.

That's your argument? Do you refuse all medical care, since it all comes with risk?

.....
we are not all in this together.....

We're not?

We really are not... getting along is way overrated

So, you'd be ok riding in an elevator with someone who had tuberculosis? Their problem not yours, right?


And if your neighbor's house were burning down, you wouldn't give a shit?

It is not the federal government's place to be the be all and end all to everybody…

 

[Unkotare]

Well we do need to decrease the surplus population........


(Was that too Scrooge like?)

No, we don't

So I should work on my Scrooge impersonation?

A lot.