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That isn't going to happen. In a free country it isn't going to happen either.Every person should have access to good care no matter what their economic standing. So if the ACA doesn't work, then present something better. Just endure that a poor person has the same exact access to the best doctors as a billionaire does. That should be a guarantee.
Every person should have access to good care no matter what their economic standing. So if the ACA doesn't work, then present something better. Just endure that a poor person has the same exact access to the best doctors as a billionaire does. That should be a guarantee.
Why ?
Every person should have access to good care no matter what their economic standing. So if the ACA doesn't work, then present something better. Just endure that a poor person has the same exact access to the best doctors as a billionaire does. That should be a guarantee.
Why ?
Because economics is a man made entity. We invented money, some people are saying because you have more of this man made entity you deserve to life more than someone else.
The Christian Right are believing in a false god no more better than the golden calf.
Why is it right that a single stockbroker deserves life more than a guy hold two jobs supporting his family of three kids.
I am sorry but while our capitalist model has advantages don't confuse it as being perfect in a god like way.
So while you complain society can be fair and equitable, some believe that society that look after each other are more advanced than ones that don't. Look at human rights, pollution....
Universal Healthcare is a hallmark of higher functioning society.
Hhhhmmmm.....
So which is the tail and which is the dog ?
And let's address this question. If you were to look at two systems, one with equal access and one with unequal access....stay with me.....and the worst care in the unequal system was still better than the best care in the equal system.....
Which would be better ?
Just answer the question. Don't deflect.
If I lived in Vermont I would want to die also.Is it only a matter of time before the nation follows suit?
Vermont Wants Aetna, Cigna and Other Health Insurers Dead
Under a single-payer system, there is no role for health insurance companies such as Aetna and Cigna as the government pays all the medical bills. Many hope that the United States will implement a single-payer system.
In Canada, the pay for medical doctors is about 50% lower. In Norway, it is nearly two-thirds lower.
Vermont Wants Aetna, Cigna and Other Health Insurers To Be History - TheStreet
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That is a really nice thing to say.
Vermont has the 3rd highest quality of Life in the US.
The 10 states with the best quality of life - Yahoo Finance
Every person should have access to good care no matter what their economic standing. So if the ACA doesn't work, then present something better. Just endure that a poor person has the same exact access to the best doctors as a billionaire does. That should be a guarantee.
Why ?
Because economics is a man made entity. We invented money, some people are saying because you have more of this man made entity you deserve to life more than someone else.
The Christian Right are believing in a false god no more better than the golden calf.
Why is it right that a single stockbroker deserves life more than a guy hold two jobs supporting his family of three kids.
I am sorry but while our capitalist model has advantages don't confuse it as being perfect in a god like way.
So while you complain society can be fair and equitable, some believe that society that look after each other are more advanced than ones that don't. Look at human rights, pollution....
Universal Healthcare is a hallmark of higher functioning society.
Hhhhmmmm.....
So which is the tail and which is the dog ?
And let's address this question. If you were to look at two systems, one with equal access and one with unequal access....stay with me.....and the worst care in the unequal system was still better than the best care in the equal system.....
Which would be better ?
Just answer the question. Don't deflect.
Show me the unequal system is better...
It is inefficient when compared to universal care, the US system costs almost twice the European universal model. Look at the WHO, Commonwealth Fund,...
The systems in US which have lowest admin costs are Medicare.
So your foundation premise is made of dust.
You also choose to ignore the actual European Model which allows people to pay for extra.
I asked you a hypthetical....yes or no.
I am not saying anything about the U.S. or Europe.
I simply asked you a hypothetical.
This response was not unanticipated (at some level of probability). Which goes to demonstrate you can't let go or your emotional attachment long enough to consider a question that does not feed your pre-concieved notion of the world.
Is it only a matter of time before the nation follows suit?
Vermont Wants Aetna, Cigna and Other Health Insurers Dead
Under a single-payer system, there is no role for health insurance companies such as Aetna and Cigna as the government pays all the medical bills. Many hope that the United States will implement a single-payer system.
In Canada, the pay for medical doctors is about 50% lower. In Norway, it is nearly two-thirds lower.
Vermont Wants Aetna, Cigna and Other Health Insurers To Be History - TheStreet
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Read on....
Vermont has the 3rd highest quality of life.
People are just beating down the doors to get in.
They have a whopping 3 electoral votes.
Any of them 18 trillion in debt?I thought they take money from the insured to pay doctors and hospitals for treatment.And they will experience delays in treatment and more needless deaths, just like European countries and the VA.
Why anyone thinks this is an advance is beyond me.
Insurance companies take money OUT of healthcare that would otherwise go to doctors, hospitals, and treatment.
Insurance companies are far less efficient than a universal health care models. There administration overhead is way higher.
Every person should have access to good care no matter what their economic standing. So if the ACA doesn't work, then present something better. Just endure that a poor person has the same exact access to the best doctors as a billionaire does. That should be a guarantee.
Why ?
Because economics is a man made entity. We invented money, some people are saying because you have more of this man made entity you deserve to life more than someone else.
The Christian Right are believing in a false god no more better than the golden calf.
Why is it right that a single stockbroker deserves life more than a guy hold two jobs supporting his family of three kids.
I am sorry but while our capitalist model has advantages don't confuse it as being perfect in a god like way.
So while you complain society can be fair and equitable, some believe that society that look after each other are more advanced than ones that don't. Look at human rights, pollution....
Universal Healthcare is a hallmark of higher functioning society.
Well, a belief isn't really something I hang my hat on. You can fight for what you believe. But you can't expect us to take what you believe on as our beliefs.
You have a right to your beliefs but to be consistent you have say human rights advances and pollution controls are regression of society...
I have no problem saying either.
But if I did, I would be as incorrect as you.
I would be assuming there is some set of metrics that can be added up to see what the net benefit is to liberty and society.
Such metrics are almost always lacking in these conversations.
As to "Human Rights", I don't know you are referencing. That is a broad term. They've always existed. They've not always been identified and supported.
Pollution Controls ? Do you know that is one of the reason we lost our steel industry in the mid 70's. That was good ?
And they will experience delays in treatment and more needless deaths, just like European countries and the VA.
Why anyone thinks this is an advance is beyond me.
Except more people die in the US from not receiving treatment than in Western Europe.
Another foundation premise turns to dust...
That has never been established beyond that bullshit Harvard paper study.
Whenever that roll of toilet paper (which other Harvard Professors called a "stretch") is brought up, I always ask for the names.
This was identified over a decade ago...that would translate to 1/2 million corpses. Where are the names ?
Answer: You don't have any. With work, you might produce a few...but you should easily have hundreds of thousands.
I grow tired of arguing against the Shangri-la bullshit of the left.
ROFLMNAO!Why ?
Because economics is a man made entity. We invented money, some people are saying because you have more of this man made entity you deserve to life more than someone else.
The Christian Right are believing in a false god no more better than the golden calf.
Why is it right that a single stockbroker deserves life more than a guy hold two jobs supporting his family of three kids.
I am sorry but while our capitalist model has advantages don't confuse it as being perfect in a god like way.
So while you complain society can be fair and equitable, some believe that society that look after each other are more advanced than ones that don't. Look at human rights, pollution....
Universal Healthcare is a hallmark of higher functioning society.
Well, a belief isn't really something I hang my hat on. You can fight for what you believe. But you can't expect us to take what you believe on as our beliefs.
You have a right to your beliefs but to be consistent you have say human rights advances and pollution controls are regression of society...
I have no problem saying either.
But if I did, I would be as incorrect as you.
I would be assuming there is some set of metrics that can be added up to see what the net benefit is to liberty and society.
Such metrics are almost always lacking in these conversations.
As to "Human Rights", I don't know you are referencing. That is a broad term. They've always existed. They've not always been identified and supported.
Pollution Controls ? Do you know that is one of the reason we lost our steel industry in the mid 70's. That was good ?
“The measure of a civilization is how it treats its weakest members." - Mahatma Gandhi
You want to weaken the US country as a society by treating your weakest badly.
Coal Pollution kills 24,000 of US Citizens a year. But hey a profit was made.
And they will experience delays in treatment and more needless deaths, just like European countries and the VA.
Why anyone thinks this is an advance is beyond me.
Except more people die in the US from not receiving treatment than in Western Europe.
Another foundation premise turns to dust...
That has never been established beyond that bullshit Harvard paper study.
Whenever that roll of toilet paper (which other Harvard Professors called a "stretch") is brought up, I always ask for the names.
This was identified over a decade ago...that would translate to 1/2 million corpses. Where are the names ?
Answer: You don't have any. With work, you might produce a few...but you should easily have hundreds of thousands.
I grow tired of arguing against the Shangri-la bullshit of the left.
It called science... It's tough
And they will experience delays in treatment and more needless deaths, just like European countries and the VA.
Why anyone thinks this is an advance is beyond me.
Except more people die in the US from not receiving treatment than in Western Europe.
Another foundation premise turns to dust...
That has never been established beyond that bullshit Harvard paper study.
Whenever that roll of toilet paper (which other Harvard Professors called a "stretch") is brought up, I always ask for the names.
This was identified over a decade ago...that would translate to 1/2 million corpses. Where are the names ?
Answer: You don't have any. With work, you might produce a few...but you should easily have hundreds of thousands.
I grow tired of arguing against the Shangri-la bullshit of the left.
It called science... It's tough
Every person should have access to good care no matter what their economic standing. So if the ACA doesn't work, then present something better. Just endure that a poor person has the same exact access to the best doctors as a billionaire does. That should be a guarantee.
Why ?
If you have to ask why, then you are way too uninformed to even be discussing it.
It is for the betterment of everyone in the country, that's why.
Every person should have access to good care no matter what their economic standing. So if the ACA doesn't work, then present something better. Just endure that a poor person has the same exact access to the best doctors as a billionaire does. That should be a guarantee.
Why ?
Because economics is a man made entity. We invented money, some people are saying because you have more of this man made entity you deserve to life more than someone else.
The Christian Right are believing in a false god no more better than the golden calf.
Why is it right that a single stockbroker deserves life more than a guy hold two jobs supporting his family of three kids.
I am sorry but while our capitalist model has advantages don't confuse it as being perfect in a god like way.
So while you complain society can be fair and equitable, some believe that society that look after each other are more advanced than ones that don't. Look at human rights, pollution....
Universal Healthcare is a hallmark of higher functioning society.
Hhhhmmmm.....
So which is the tail and which is the dog ?
And let's address this question. If you were to look at two systems, one with equal access and one with unequal access....stay with me.....and the worst care in the unequal system was still better than the best care in the equal system.....
Which would be better ?
Just answer the question. Don't deflect.
Yeah, just answer the question, because you know that your question is biased.
The United States might have had some of the best care, but only the very rich could access that best care.....so your analogy falls flat on its face. The poor people had to settle for going to the ER in order to get help....most of the time too late, but I know, you don't care about the poor people. There's your answer.
Read on....
Vermont has the 3rd highest quality of life.
People are just beating down the doors to get in.
They have a whopping 3 electoral votes.
So, your only concern is how many electoral votes a state has? Very telling.
Lemme check,Why ?
Because economics is a man made entity. We invented money, some people are saying because you have more of this man made entity you deserve to life more than someone else.
The Christian Right are believing in a false god no more better than the golden calf.
Why is it right that a single stockbroker deserves life more than a guy hold two jobs supporting his family of three kids.
I am sorry but while our capitalist model has advantages don't confuse it as being perfect in a god like way.
So while you complain society can be fair and equitable, some believe that society that look after each other are more advanced than ones that don't. Look at human rights, pollution....
Universal Healthcare is a hallmark of higher functioning society.
Well, a belief isn't really something I hang my hat on. You can fight for what you believe. But you can't expect us to take what you believe on as our beliefs.
You have a right to your beliefs but to be consistent you have say human rights advances and pollution controls are regression of society...
I have no problem saying either.
But if I did, I would be as incorrect as you.
I would be assuming there is some set of metrics that can be added up to see what the net benefit is to liberty and society.
Such metrics are almost always lacking in these conversations.
As to "Human Rights", I don't know you are referencing. That is a broad term. They've always existed. They've not always been identified and supported.
Pollution Controls ? Do you know that is one of the reason we lost our steel industry in the mid 70's. That was good ?
“The measure of a civilization is how it treats its weakest members." - Mahatma Gandhi
You want to weaken the US country as a society by treating your weakest badly.
Coal Pollution kills 24,000 of US Citizens a year. But hey a profit was made.
Obviously they haven't lived under a Single Payer system, as without private hospitals and insurers there is no way for people to escape waiting lists or for the government to fund private clinics (when there is not enough capacity nearby)Under a single-payer system, there is no role for health insurance companies such as Aetna and Cigna as the government pays all the medical bills. Many hope that the United States will implement a single-payer system.
Not true, in fact the reverse as usually there are health services unions. Also general bureaucracy and regulations add costs to the system. But all in all you don't see it as it collectively paid through income taxes, payroll taxes or levies - and no government is going to advertise government waste if I wants another term.The bordering states around Vermont are going to get an influx of medical professionals.And they will experience delays in treatment and more needless deaths, just like European countries and the VA.
Why anyone thinks this is an advance is beyond me.
Single payer systems always pay below the market value for services. What doctor, nurse, or other professional will willingly take a 50% or more cut in compensation?
