Video shows Ahmaud Arbery Was caught breaking and entering an unfinished property, then towards McMichael‘s house

[Faun]

any normal person would not attack someone with a loaded shotgun

but thats what must have happened

the jogger was attacked and could have been wounded directly in front of the truck because the gunman was in front of the truck and at point blank range from the jogger when the first shot was fired.

I dont think you understand how it works with shotguns. The person holding the gun does not want to get into a wrestling match and will try to keep a comfortable distance

if there was a struggle for the gun arbrey was the one who started it

Idiot, for someone who wanted to keep a safe distance, he sure fucked that up moving towards Arbery.

Calling me names does not make up for a bad argument

there is no video evidence either way

but as I have shown, mcmichaels had no reason to start a wrestling match with arbrey

I call idiots, an "idiot." When you claim the person with the gun wants to keep a comfortable distance when in fact, Travis moved towards Arbery before shooting him for the first time, you're an idiot. So don't be surprised when you get called an "idiot."

Your whining aside, there's video evidence Travis moved in towards Arbery.

Travis is at one point, near the center of the oncoming lane. By the time Arbery rounds the truck and turns towards Travis, Travis is now in the other lane in front of the truck. That's a distance of about 5 to 6 feet Travis moved towards Arbery. It's all on video.

You seem to have magical powers of observation that no one else has

the vedeo does not tell us anything about what happened in the final few seconds of the incident because the two men were not in the camera’s view

but there os no logical reason for the man with the gun to charge the other man and wrestle with him

LOLOL

Exactly how blind are you?? The video shows Travis moving as much as 6 feet towards Arbery. That doesn't require any magic to know; only functioning eyesight.

I concede that the father and son were trying to impede the black guy from running away

Which I have already labeled as stupidity

But I cant see mcmichaels choosing to wrestle with arbrey over procession of the shotgun

That had to be arbreys fatal mistake

I never said he chose to wrestle with Arbery. It may not have even occurred to him that Arbery would do that. I don’t know what he was thinking. That doesn't discount the fact that he did move in on Arbery. It's indisputable -- it's on video.

 

[Faun]

there is no video evidence either way

but as I have shown, mcmichaels had no reason to start a wrestling match with arbrey

You just said there is no video evidence either way. But then you say you have shown, mcmichaels had no reason to start a wrestling match with arbrey.

You want us to believe that the two men who were committing aggravated assault in broad daylight before Arbery tried to pass their armed barricade needed a coherent reason to run toward and be too close to the person they were attempting to apprehend.

The video evidence is here:View attachment 338922View attachment 338923View attachment 338924

What I said was there is no logical reason for the man with the gun to give up that advantage by choosing to engage in a wrestling match with the unarmed man

the only thing that makes sense is that arbrey charged mcmichaels

Yet McMichael did. It's on video.

There is nothing on the video that supports your claim

Dumbfuck, go sell stupid elsewhere.

There is no need to get personal just because your argument is weak

Fuck off, pansy. It matters not what you think of my argument while you argue against what's visible on the video. Watch what happens in court to these two murdering yahoos.

 

[Jitss617]

any normal person would not attack someone with a loaded shotgun

but thats what must have happened

the jogger was attacked and could have been wounded directly in front of the truck because the gunman was in front of the truck and at point blank range from the jogger when the first shot was fired.

I dont think you understand how it works with shotguns. The person holding the gun does not want to get into a wrestling match and will try to keep a comfortable distance

if there was a struggle for the gun arbrey was the one who started it

Idiot, for someone who wanted to keep a safe distance, he sure fucked that up moving towards Arbery.

Calling me names does not make up for a bad argument

there is no video evidence either way

but as I have shown, mcmichaels had no reason to start a wrestling match with arbrey

I call idiots, an "idiot." When you claim the person with the gun wants to keep a comfortable distance when in fact, Travis moved towards Arbery before shooting him for the first time, you're an idiot. So don't be surprised when you get called an "idiot."

Your whining aside, there's video evidence Travis moved in towards Arbery.

Travis is at one point, near the center of the oncoming lane. By the time Arbery rounds the truck and turns towards Travis, Travis is now in the other lane in front of the truck. That's a distance of about 5 to 6 feet Travis moved towards Arbery. It's all on video.

You seem to have magical powers of observation that no one else has

the vedeo does not tell us anything about what happened in the final few seconds of the incident because the two men were not in the camera’s view

but there os no logical reason for the man with the gun to charge the other man and wrestle with him

LOLOL

Exactly how blind are you?? The video shows Travis moving as much as 6 feet towards Arbery. That doesn't require any magic to know; only functioning eyesight.

I concede that the father and son were trying to impede the black guy from running away

Which I have already labeled as stupidity

But I cant see mcmichaels choosing to wrestle with arbrey over procession of the shotgun

That had to be arbreys fatal mistake

I never said he chose to wrestle with Arbery. It may not have even occurred to him that Arbery would do that. I don’t know what he was thinking. That doesn't discount the fact that he did move in on Arbery. It's indisputable -- it's on video.

Arbery is a criminal! He had large spaces to run, but why run if you did nothing wrong?

 

[Marianne]

there is no video evidence either way
If that’s the case Arbery must have felt threatened which speaks to the actions of McMichaels.
but as I have shown, mcmichaels had no reason to start a wrestling match with arbrey

You just said there is no video evidence either way. But then you say you have shown, mcmichaels had no reason to start a wrestling match with arbrey.

You want us to believe that the two men who were committing aggravated assault in broad daylight before Arbery tried to pass their armed barricade needed a coherent reason to run toward and be too close to the person they were attempting to apprehend.

The video evidence is here:View attachment 338922View attachment 338923View attachment 338924

What I said was there is no logical reason for the man with the gun to give up that advantage by choosing to engage in a wrestling match with the unarmed man

the only thing that makes sense is that arbrey charged mcmichaels

 

[Marianne]

and I seriously doubt any police officer told these two idiots to stop him by shooting him.

If he had not attacked the man holding the shotgun arbrey would be alive today

If Mc Michaels had minded their own business Arbery would be alive today.

If the McMichaels had approached Arbery like a normal human being and simply asked what he was doing Arbery would be alive today.

Had the McMichaels left Arbery alone and let the cops do their job, Arbery would be alive today.

If the McMichaels hadn’t chased Arbery maybe Arbery would be alive today.


If two white McMichaels had treated Arbery like a white man he’d be alive today.


But the McMichaels didn’t do that. They saw a black man checking out the construction of a house. Something BTW other people in the neighborhood had also done both white and black. It was caught on the property owner’s camera. THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS AWARE OF TRESPASSERS. It was his job to defend and secure his own property not the McMichaels. HE CHOSE NOT TO! Instead he installed the camera. The McMichaels stuck their nose where it didn’t belong. All the should have done is call the police and let them handle it. Instead they chased and harassed Arbery for no reason. The man didn’t take anything. For all the McMichaels knew Arbery was a friend of the owner checking on the property for him. Something people do all the time. But the McMichaels didn’t care about any of that. Instead they chased and killed an innocent man. The police said Arbery had no stolen property on him. The man was just jogging when two neighborhood bullies stalked him and shot him. Even the video shows the McMichaels waiting for Arbery, truck door open as an intimidation tactic or perhaps a challenge to bait the young man. The McMichaels could have taken a picture for police. They could have followed him at a distance until the police arrived. There were 1000 better ways to deal with this THEN KILLING HIM. I hope they rot in jail. They gave the Arbery family a much harsher sentence because they will never see their loved one again.

You will also note the charge is murder and not manslaughter. Something I was surprised at because the lesser charge manslaughter would be easier to prove. I’m not sure if the police are trying to get the McMichaels acquitted by making the prosecution prove a higher charge or if there’s more proof we don’t know about.
Guess we wait and see. Hopefully the aggravated assault charge will stick and the stupid bastards will get some jail time.

The only thing I blame McMicheals for based on evidence so far was getting out of the truck

they should have followed arbrey till the cops showed up to question him

but arbrey was a naturally angry and aggressive person and its likely arbrey attacked the son who was holding the shotgun

maybe new evidence will change that but so far thats how I see it

I agree that McMichael shouldn’t have gotten out of the truck. The problem is he did and now Arbery is dead. The McMichaels instigated the entire situation. But for the actions of the McMichaels, Arbery would be alive today. The McMichaels now have to pay for that action and poor judgement. They should have let the police handle it.

They will no doubt not be found guilty of murder because the reality is they should have been charged with manslaughter unless the cops know something we don’t. I think the only charge they will be found guilty of is aggravated assault.

If Arbery did not attack a man with a shotgun, he would be alive today. In prison, but alive.

In prison for what? Trespass? And who would press charges? Mr. English the owner? He didn’t even call the police. No, Mr Arbery would certainly not be in prison for anything related to this case. The police said he didn’t steal anything. No official in their right mind would send someone to prison/jail for trespass and definitely not during a pandemic. You’re delusional.

The intent to steal is a felony, we see him with a hammer, so they had a right to stop but didn’t

LOLOL

Liar, you do not see him with a hammer since there was no hammer.

You couldn't find a single news article stating there was a hammer. No one but racists like you on forums like this are even claiming there was a hammer.

Gregory McMichael, standing in the bed of his pickup truck and on the phone with 911 did not say Arbery was holding a hammer or that Arbery disposed of a hammer.

Travis McMichael who defense would be greatly bolstered if Arbery had a hammer did not say there was a hammer.

The police did not report a hammer was found.

Neither Gregory McMichael nor Travis McMichael told police Arbery had a hammer.

Bryan, the guy in the car following Arbery has said nothing about a hammer.

Larry English, the owner of the home under construction said no hammer was taken. And he had videos of Arbery inside the structure where he would have seen Arbery taking a hammer had he actually done so.

In the video, the stick on the ground you idiotically call a hammer is already on the ground before Arbery gets there; and Arbery is not seen on the video either holding a hammer or throwing a hammer.

There were other witnesses who were out there, none of who said anything about a hammer.

If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie like ya do.

The police report was not well put together, there was def a hammer AA stole, I have pics of it

Really! Maybe I should contact authorities and let them know. I’m sure they’d be interested that you are withholding evidence in a murder case.

 

[Marianne]

The POLICE said Arbery didn’t steal

Link?

You want a link after you flat out refused to post a link to a news article stating Arbery stole a hammer??

I don’t need a link to the hammer I see the hammer being tossed thanks to the sharp eye of a individual

Proof or it never happened.

 

[Faun]

any normal person would not attack someone with a loaded shotgun

but thats what must have happened

the jogger was attacked and could have been wounded directly in front of the truck because the gunman was in front of the truck and at point blank range from the jogger when the first shot was fired.

I dont think you understand how it works with shotguns. The person holding the gun does not want to get into a wrestling match and will try to keep a comfortable distance

if there was a struggle for the gun arbrey was the one who started it

Idiot, for someone who wanted to keep a safe distance, he sure fucked that up moving towards Arbery.

Calling me names does not make up for a bad argument

there is no video evidence either way

but as I have shown, mcmichaels had no reason to start a wrestling match with arbrey

I call idiots, an "idiot." When you claim the person with the gun wants to keep a comfortable distance when in fact, Travis moved towards Arbery before shooting him for the first time, you're an idiot. So don't be surprised when you get called an "idiot."

Your whining aside, there's video evidence Travis moved in towards Arbery.

Travis is at one point, near the center of the oncoming lane. By the time Arbery rounds the truck and turns towards Travis, Travis is now in the other lane in front of the truck. That's a distance of about 5 to 6 feet Travis moved towards Arbery. It's all on video.

You seem to have magical powers of observation that no one else has

the vedeo does not tell us anything about what happened in the final few seconds of the incident because the two men were not in the camera’s view

but there os no logical reason for the man with the gun to charge the other man and wrestle with him

LOLOL

Exactly how blind are you?? The video shows Travis moving as much as 6 feet towards Arbery. That doesn't require any magic to know; only functioning eyesight.

I concede that the father and son were trying to impede the black guy from running away

Which I have already labeled as stupidity

But I cant see mcmichaels choosing to wrestle with arbrey over procession of the shotgun

That had to be arbreys fatal mistake

I never said he chose to wrestle with Arbery. It may not have even occurred to him that Arbery would do that. I don’t know what he was thinking. That doesn't discount the fact that he did move in on Arbery. It's indisputable -- it's on video.

Arbery is a criminal! He had large spaces to run, but why run if you did nothing wrong?

Where's your link to a news article stating Arbery stole a hammer, troll?

 

[Jitss617]

and I seriously doubt any police officer told these two idiots to stop him by shooting him.

If he had not attacked the man holding the shotgun arbrey would be alive today

If Mc Michaels had minded their own business Arbery would be alive today.

If the McMichaels had approached Arbery like a normal human being and simply asked what he was doing Arbery would be alive today.

Had the McMichaels left Arbery alone and let the cops do their job, Arbery would be alive today.

If the McMichaels hadn’t chased Arbery maybe Arbery would be alive today.


If two white McMichaels had treated Arbery like a white man he’d be alive today.


But the McMichaels didn’t do that. They saw a black man checking out the construction of a house. Something BTW other people in the neighborhood had also done both white and black. It was caught on the property owner’s camera. THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS AWARE OF TRESPASSERS. It was his job to defend and secure his own property not the McMichaels. HE CHOSE NOT TO! Instead he installed the camera. The McMichaels stuck their nose where it didn’t belong. All the should have done is call the police and let them handle it. Instead they chased and harassed Arbery for no reason. The man didn’t take anything. For all the McMichaels knew Arbery was a friend of the owner checking on the property for him. Something people do all the time. But the McMichaels didn’t care about any of that. Instead they chased and killed an innocent man. The police said Arbery had no stolen property on him. The man was just jogging when two neighborhood bullies stalked him and shot him. Even the video shows the McMichaels waiting for Arbery, truck door open as an intimidation tactic or perhaps a challenge to bait the young man. The McMichaels could have taken a picture for police. They could have followed him at a distance until the police arrived. There were 1000 better ways to deal with this THEN KILLING HIM. I hope they rot in jail. They gave the Arbery family a much harsher sentence because they will never see their loved one again.

You will also note the charge is murder and not manslaughter. Something I was surprised at because the lesser charge manslaughter would be easier to prove. I’m not sure if the police are trying to get the McMichaels acquitted by making the prosecution prove a higher charge or if there’s more proof we don’t know about.
Guess we wait and see. Hopefully the aggravated assault charge will stick and the stupid bastards will get some jail time.

The only thing I blame McMicheals for based on evidence so far was getting out of the truck

they should have followed arbrey till the cops showed up to question him

but arbrey was a naturally angry and aggressive person and its likely arbrey attacked the son who was holding the shotgun

maybe new evidence will change that but so far thats how I see it

I agree that McMichael shouldn’t have gotten out of the truck. The problem is he did and now Arbery is dead. The McMichaels instigated the entire situation. But for the actions of the McMichaels, Arbery would be alive today. The McMichaels now have to pay for that action and poor judgement. They should have let the police handle it.

They will no doubt not be found guilty of murder because the reality is they should have been charged with manslaughter unless the cops know something we don’t. I think the only charge they will be found guilty of is aggravated assault.

If Arbery did not attack a man with a shotgun, he would be alive today. In prison, but alive.

In prison for what? Trespass? And who would press charges? Mr. English the owner? He didn’t even call the police. No, Mr Arbery would certainly not be in prison for anything related to this case. The police said he didn’t steal anything. No official in their right mind would send someone to prison/jail for trespass and definitely not during a pandemic. You’re delusional.

The intent to steal is a felony, we see him with a hammer, so they had a right to stop but didn’t

LOLOL

Liar, you do not see him with a hammer since there was no hammer.

You couldn't find a single news article stating there was a hammer. No one but racists like you on forums like this are even claiming there was a hammer.

Gregory McMichael, standing in the bed of his pickup truck and on the phone with 911 did not say Arbery was holding a hammer or that Arbery disposed of a hammer.

Travis McMichael who defense would be greatly bolstered if Arbery had a hammer did not say there was a hammer.

The police did not report a hammer was found.

Neither Gregory McMichael nor Travis McMichael told police Arbery had a hammer.

Bryan, the guy in the car following Arbery has said nothing about a hammer.

Larry English, the owner of the home under construction said no hammer was taken. And he had videos of Arbery inside the structure where he would have seen Arbery taking a hammer had he actually done so.

In the video, the stick on the ground you idiotically call a hammer is already on the ground before Arbery gets there; and Arbery is not seen on the video either holding a hammer or throwing a hammer.

There were other witnesses who were out there, none of who said anything about a hammer.

If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie like ya do.

The police report was not well put together, there was def a hammer AA stole, I have pics of it

Really! Maybe I should contact authorities and let them know. I’m sure they’d be interested that you are withholding evidence in a murder case.

It’s in the video, and from what I hear the new report includes the stolen hammer

 

[Jitss617]

The POLICE said Arbery didn’t steal

Link?

You want a link after you flat out refused to post a link to a news article stating Arbery stole a hammer??

I don’t need a link to the hammer I see the hammer being tossed thanks to the sharp eye of a individual

Proof or it never happened.

 

[Jitss617]

any normal person would not attack someone with a loaded shotgun

but thats what must have happened

the jogger was attacked and could have been wounded directly in front of the truck because the gunman was in front of the truck and at point blank range from the jogger when the first shot was fired.

I dont think you understand how it works with shotguns. The person holding the gun does not want to get into a wrestling match and will try to keep a comfortable distance

if there was a struggle for the gun arbrey was the one who started it

Idiot, for someone who wanted to keep a safe distance, he sure fucked that up moving towards Arbery.

Calling me names does not make up for a bad argument

there is no video evidence either way

but as I have shown, mcmichaels had no reason to start a wrestling match with arbrey

I call idiots, an "idiot." When you claim the person with the gun wants to keep a comfortable distance when in fact, Travis moved towards Arbery before shooting him for the first time, you're an idiot. So don't be surprised when you get called an "idiot."

Your whining aside, there's video evidence Travis moved in towards Arbery.

Travis is at one point, near the center of the oncoming lane. By the time Arbery rounds the truck and turns towards Travis, Travis is now in the other lane in front of the truck. That's a distance of about 5 to 6 feet Travis moved towards Arbery. It's all on video.

You seem to have magical powers of observation that no one else has

the vedeo does not tell us anything about what happened in the final few seconds of the incident because the two men were not in the camera’s view

but there os no logical reason for the man with the gun to charge the other man and wrestle with him

LOLOL

Exactly how blind are you?? The video shows Travis moving as much as 6 feet towards Arbery. That doesn't require any magic to know; only functioning eyesight.

I concede that the father and son were trying to impede the black guy from running away

Which I have already labeled as stupidity

But I cant see mcmichaels choosing to wrestle with arbrey over procession of the shotgun

That had to be arbreys fatal mistake

I never said he chose to wrestle with Arbery. It may not have even occurred to him that Arbery would do that. I don’t know what he was thinking. That doesn't discount the fact that he did move in on Arbery. It's indisputable -- it's on video.

Arbery is a criminal! He had large spaces to run, but why run if you did nothing wrong?

Where's your link to a news article stating Arbery stole a hammer, troll?

I showed you pics ,, you need a media outlet to report it? Good luck they want racism to be a factor lol

 

[Faun]

and I seriously doubt any police officer told these two idiots to stop him by shooting him.

If he had not attacked the man holding the shotgun arbrey would be alive today

If Mc Michaels had minded their own business Arbery would be alive today.

If the McMichaels had approached Arbery like a normal human being and simply asked what he was doing Arbery would be alive today.

Had the McMichaels left Arbery alone and let the cops do their job, Arbery would be alive today.

If the McMichaels hadn’t chased Arbery maybe Arbery would be alive today.


If two white McMichaels had treated Arbery like a white man he’d be alive today.


But the McMichaels didn’t do that. They saw a black man checking out the construction of a house. Something BTW other people in the neighborhood had also done both white and black. It was caught on the property owner’s camera. THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS AWARE OF TRESPASSERS. It was his job to defend and secure his own property not the McMichaels. HE CHOSE NOT TO! Instead he installed the camera. The McMichaels stuck their nose where it didn’t belong. All the should have done is call the police and let them handle it. Instead they chased and harassed Arbery for no reason. The man didn’t take anything. For all the McMichaels knew Arbery was a friend of the owner checking on the property for him. Something people do all the time. But the McMichaels didn’t care about any of that. Instead they chased and killed an innocent man. The police said Arbery had no stolen property on him. The man was just jogging when two neighborhood bullies stalked him and shot him. Even the video shows the McMichaels waiting for Arbery, truck door open as an intimidation tactic or perhaps a challenge to bait the young man. The McMichaels could have taken a picture for police. They could have followed him at a distance until the police arrived. There were 1000 better ways to deal with this THEN KILLING HIM. I hope they rot in jail. They gave the Arbery family a much harsher sentence because they will never see their loved one again.

You will also note the charge is murder and not manslaughter. Something I was surprised at because the lesser charge manslaughter would be easier to prove. I’m not sure if the police are trying to get the McMichaels acquitted by making the prosecution prove a higher charge or if there’s more proof we don’t know about.
Guess we wait and see. Hopefully the aggravated assault charge will stick and the stupid bastards will get some jail time.

The only thing I blame McMicheals for based on evidence so far was getting out of the truck

they should have followed arbrey till the cops showed up to question him

but arbrey was a naturally angry and aggressive person and its likely arbrey attacked the son who was holding the shotgun

maybe new evidence will change that but so far thats how I see it

I agree that McMichael shouldn’t have gotten out of the truck. The problem is he did and now Arbery is dead. The McMichaels instigated the entire situation. But for the actions of the McMichaels, Arbery would be alive today. The McMichaels now have to pay for that action and poor judgement. They should have let the police handle it.

They will no doubt not be found guilty of murder because the reality is they should have been charged with manslaughter unless the cops know something we don’t. I think the only charge they will be found guilty of is aggravated assault.

If Arbery did not attack a man with a shotgun, he would be alive today. In prison, but alive.

In prison for what? Trespass? And who would press charges? Mr. English the owner? He didn’t even call the police. No, Mr Arbery would certainly not be in prison for anything related to this case. The police said he didn’t steal anything. No official in their right mind would send someone to prison/jail for trespass and definitely not during a pandemic. You’re delusional.

The intent to steal is a felony, we see him with a hammer, so they had a right to stop but didn’t

LOLOL

Liar, you do not see him with a hammer since there was no hammer.

You couldn't find a single news article stating there was a hammer. No one but racists like you on forums like this are even claiming there was a hammer.

Gregory McMichael, standing in the bed of his pickup truck and on the phone with 911 did not say Arbery was holding a hammer or that Arbery disposed of a hammer.

Travis McMichael who defense would be greatly bolstered if Arbery had a hammer did not say there was a hammer.

The police did not report a hammer was found.

Neither Gregory McMichael nor Travis McMichael told police Arbery had a hammer.

Bryan, the guy in the car following Arbery has said nothing about a hammer.

Larry English, the owner of the home under construction said no hammer was taken. And he had videos of Arbery inside the structure where he would have seen Arbery taking a hammer had he actually done so.

In the video, the stick on the ground you idiotically call a hammer is already on the ground before Arbery gets there; and Arbery is not seen on the video either holding a hammer or throwing a hammer.

There were other witnesses who were out there, none of who said anything about a hammer.

If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie like ya do.

The police report was not well put together, there was def a hammer AA stole, I have pics of it

Really! Maybe I should contact authorities and let them know. I’m sure they’d be interested that you are withholding evidence in a murder case.

It’s in the video, and from what I hear the new report includes the stolen hammer

I didn't challenge you to refer to a fuzzy image of a stick. I challenged you to prove it by posting a link to a news article confirming your claim.

You lose again because you can't.

 

[Faun]

The POLICE said Arbery didn’t steal

Link?

You want a link after you flat out refused to post a link to a news article stating Arbery stole a hammer??

I don’t need a link to the hammer I see the hammer being tossed thanks to the sharp eye of a individual

Proof or it never happened.

View attachment 339026View attachment 339027

That's a stick on the left and gray running shoes on the right.

 

[Faun]

any normal person would not attack someone with a loaded shotgun

but thats what must have happened

the jogger was attacked and could have been wounded directly in front of the truck because the gunman was in front of the truck and at point blank range from the jogger when the first shot was fired.

I dont think you understand how it works with shotguns. The person holding the gun does not want to get into a wrestling match and will try to keep a comfortable distance

if there was a struggle for the gun arbrey was the one who started it

Idiot, for someone who wanted to keep a safe distance, he sure fucked that up moving towards Arbery.

Calling me names does not make up for a bad argument

there is no video evidence either way

but as I have shown, mcmichaels had no reason to start a wrestling match with arbrey

I call idiots, an "idiot." When you claim the person with the gun wants to keep a comfortable distance when in fact, Travis moved towards Arbery before shooting him for the first time, you're an idiot. So don't be surprised when you get called an "idiot."

Your whining aside, there's video evidence Travis moved in towards Arbery.

Travis is at one point, near the center of the oncoming lane. By the time Arbery rounds the truck and turns towards Travis, Travis is now in the other lane in front of the truck. That's a distance of about 5 to 6 feet Travis moved towards Arbery. It's all on video.

You seem to have magical powers of observation that no one else has

the vedeo does not tell us anything about what happened in the final few seconds of the incident because the two men were not in the camera’s view

but there os no logical reason for the man with the gun to charge the other man and wrestle with him

LOLOL

Exactly how blind are you?? The video shows Travis moving as much as 6 feet towards Arbery. That doesn't require any magic to know; only functioning eyesight.

I concede that the father and son were trying to impede the black guy from running away

Which I have already labeled as stupidity

But I cant see mcmichaels choosing to wrestle with arbrey over procession of the shotgun

That had to be arbreys fatal mistake

I never said he chose to wrestle with Arbery. It may not have even occurred to him that Arbery would do that. I don’t know what he was thinking. That doesn't discount the fact that he did move in on Arbery. It's indisputable -- it's on video.

Arbery is a criminal! He had large spaces to run, but why run if you did nothing wrong?

Where's your link to a news article stating Arbery stole a hammer, troll?

I showed you pics ,, you need a media outlet to report it? Good luck they want racism to be a factor lol

LOL

So you admit the news isn't reporting it?

 

[Jitss617]

and I seriously doubt any police officer told these two idiots to stop him by shooting him.

If he had not attacked the man holding the shotgun arbrey would be alive today

If Mc Michaels had minded their own business Arbery would be alive today.

If the McMichaels had approached Arbery like a normal human being and simply asked what he was doing Arbery would be alive today.

Had the McMichaels left Arbery alone and let the cops do their job, Arbery would be alive today.

If the McMichaels hadn’t chased Arbery maybe Arbery would be alive today.


If two white McMichaels had treated Arbery like a white man he’d be alive today.


But the McMichaels didn’t do that. They saw a black man checking out the construction of a house. Something BTW other people in the neighborhood had also done both white and black. It was caught on the property owner’s camera. THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS AWARE OF TRESPASSERS. It was his job to defend and secure his own property not the McMichaels. HE CHOSE NOT TO! Instead he installed the camera. The McMichaels stuck their nose where it didn’t belong. All the should have done is call the police and let them handle it. Instead they chased and harassed Arbery for no reason. The man didn’t take anything. For all the McMichaels knew Arbery was a friend of the owner checking on the property for him. Something people do all the time. But the McMichaels didn’t care about any of that. Instead they chased and killed an innocent man. The police said Arbery had no stolen property on him. The man was just jogging when two neighborhood bullies stalked him and shot him. Even the video shows the McMichaels waiting for Arbery, truck door open as an intimidation tactic or perhaps a challenge to bait the young man. The McMichaels could have taken a picture for police. They could have followed him at a distance until the police arrived. There were 1000 better ways to deal with this THEN KILLING HIM. I hope they rot in jail. They gave the Arbery family a much harsher sentence because they will never see their loved one again.

You will also note the charge is murder and not manslaughter. Something I was surprised at because the lesser charge manslaughter would be easier to prove. I’m not sure if the police are trying to get the McMichaels acquitted by making the prosecution prove a higher charge or if there’s more proof we don’t know about.
Guess we wait and see. Hopefully the aggravated assault charge will stick and the stupid bastards will get some jail time.

The only thing I blame McMicheals for based on evidence so far was getting out of the truck

they should have followed arbrey till the cops showed up to question him

but arbrey was a naturally angry and aggressive person and its likely arbrey attacked the son who was holding the shotgun

maybe new evidence will change that but so far thats how I see it

I agree that McMichael shouldn’t have gotten out of the truck. The problem is he did and now Arbery is dead. The McMichaels instigated the entire situation. But for the actions of the McMichaels, Arbery would be alive today. The McMichaels now have to pay for that action and poor judgement. They should have let the police handle it.

They will no doubt not be found guilty of murder because the reality is they should have been charged with manslaughter unless the cops know something we don’t. I think the only charge they will be found guilty of is aggravated assault.

If Arbery did not attack a man with a shotgun, he would be alive today. In prison, but alive.

In prison for what? Trespass? And who would press charges? Mr. English the owner? He didn’t even call the police. No, Mr Arbery would certainly not be in prison for anything related to this case. The police said he didn’t steal anything. No official in their right mind would send someone to prison/jail for trespass and definitely not during a pandemic. You’re delusional.

The intent to steal is a felony, we see him with a hammer, so they had a right to stop but didn’t

LOLOL

Liar, you do not see him with a hammer since there was no hammer.

You couldn't find a single news article stating there was a hammer. No one but racists like you on forums like this are even claiming there was a hammer.

Gregory McMichael, standing in the bed of his pickup truck and on the phone with 911 did not say Arbery was holding a hammer or that Arbery disposed of a hammer.

Travis McMichael who defense would be greatly bolstered if Arbery had a hammer did not say there was a hammer.

The police did not report a hammer was found.

Neither Gregory McMichael nor Travis McMichael told police Arbery had a hammer.

Bryan, the guy in the car following Arbery has said nothing about a hammer.

Larry English, the owner of the home under construction said no hammer was taken. And he had videos of Arbery inside the structure where he would have seen Arbery taking a hammer had he actually done so.

In the video, the stick on the ground you idiotically call a hammer is already on the ground before Arbery gets there; and Arbery is not seen on the video either holding a hammer or throwing a hammer.

There were other witnesses who were out there, none of who said anything about a hammer.

If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie like ya do.

The police report was not well put together, there was def a hammer AA stole, I have pics of it

Really! Maybe I should contact authorities and let them know. I’m sure they’d be interested that you are withholding evidence in a murder case.

It’s in the video, and from what I hear the new report includes the stolen hammer

I didn't challenge you to refer to a fuzzy image of a stick. I challenged you to prove it by posting a link to a news article confirming your claim.

You lose again because you can't.

I don’t need the media to tell me what’s real lol democrats haha crack me up

 

[Jitss617]

any normal person would not attack someone with a loaded shotgun

but thats what must have happened

the jogger was attacked and could have been wounded directly in front of the truck because the gunman was in front of the truck and at point blank range from the jogger when the first shot was fired.

I dont think you understand how it works with shotguns. The person holding the gun does not want to get into a wrestling match and will try to keep a comfortable distance

if there was a struggle for the gun arbrey was the one who started it

Idiot, for someone who wanted to keep a safe distance, he sure fucked that up moving towards Arbery.

Calling me names does not make up for a bad argument

there is no video evidence either way

but as I have shown, mcmichaels had no reason to start a wrestling match with arbrey

I call idiots, an "idiot." When you claim the person with the gun wants to keep a comfortable distance when in fact, Travis moved towards Arbery before shooting him for the first time, you're an idiot. So don't be surprised when you get called an "idiot."

Your whining aside, there's video evidence Travis moved in towards Arbery.

Travis is at one point, near the center of the oncoming lane. By the time Arbery rounds the truck and turns towards Travis, Travis is now in the other lane in front of the truck. That's a distance of about 5 to 6 feet Travis moved towards Arbery. It's all on video.

You seem to have magical powers of observation that no one else has

the vedeo does not tell us anything about what happened in the final few seconds of the incident because the two men were not in the camera’s view

but there os no logical reason for the man with the gun to charge the other man and wrestle with him

LOLOL

Exactly how blind are you?? The video shows Travis moving as much as 6 feet towards Arbery. That doesn't require any magic to know; only functioning eyesight.

I concede that the father and son were trying to impede the black guy from running away

Which I have already labeled as stupidity

But I cant see mcmichaels choosing to wrestle with arbrey over procession of the shotgun

That had to be arbreys fatal mistake

I never said he chose to wrestle with Arbery. It may not have even occurred to him that Arbery would do that. I don’t know what he was thinking. That doesn't discount the fact that he did move in on Arbery. It's indisputable -- it's on video.

Arbery is a criminal! He had large spaces to run, but why run if you did nothing wrong?

Where's your link to a news article stating Arbery stole a hammer, troll?

I showed you pics ,, you need a media outlet to report it? Good luck they want racism to be a factor lol

LOL

So you admit the news isn't reporting it?

I’m not looking for them to tell me what I see it real lol hahahhaha

 

[sartre play]

Don't care if he is not a good person, its not ok to kill some one for nonviolent real or imagined crimes.

 

[Ame®icano]

any normal person would not attack someone with a loaded shotgun

but thats what must have happened

the jogger was attacked and could have been wounded directly in front of the truck because the gunman was in front of the truck and at point blank range from the jogger when the first shot was fired.

"jogger"

LOL

Left is still going with a "jogger" narrative.

Dictionaries should change the meaning of the word.

Jogger... person in cargo pants and timberland's, running away from a property he broke into with a hammer in his hand.

The plain stupidity of the "jogger" is self evident. Although I wish he stayed alive, with just his balls blown off, so he can't procreate anymore.

Dumbfuck, he was wearing "gray athletic shoes," not Timberlands. It's amazing (but not surprising) to see how divorced from truth and reality you rightwingnuts are.

Look here, twat...

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LOLOL

Skidmark, you're posting fuzzy pictures that render his shoes unidentifiable...

I'm quoting the coroner who examined the body.

You lose again because you're a loser.

Riiiiiight... he was just an innocent "jogger".

Dumbfuck, I just utterly destroyed your bullshit that he was wearing Timberlands -- and now you prove to be so stupid, you ignore that and come back for more punishment? What a glutton you are.

Shit, he's on video jogging down the street towards the truck. Another video shows him jogging away from the house under construction.

Are you ever not a retard?

Ever???

"jogging"

LOL

You mean, running away from property he just broke into?

 

[Faun]

any normal person would not attack someone with a loaded shotgun

but thats what must have happened

the jogger was attacked and could have been wounded directly in front of the truck because the gunman was in front of the truck and at point blank range from the jogger when the first shot was fired.

I dont think you understand how it works with shotguns. The person holding the gun does not want to get into a wrestling match and will try to keep a comfortable distance

if there was a struggle for the gun arbrey was the one who started it

Idiot, for someone who wanted to keep a safe distance, he sure fucked that up moving towards Arbery.

Calling me names does not make up for a bad argument

there is no video evidence either way

but as I have shown, mcmichaels had no reason to start a wrestling match with arbrey

I call idiots, an "idiot." When you claim the person with the gun wants to keep a comfortable distance when in fact, Travis moved towards Arbery before shooting him for the first time, you're an idiot. So don't be surprised when you get called an "idiot."

Your whining aside, there's video evidence Travis moved in towards Arbery.

Travis is at one point, near the center of the oncoming lane. By the time Arbery rounds the truck and turns towards Travis, Travis is now in the other lane in front of the truck. That's a distance of about 5 to 6 feet Travis moved towards Arbery. It's all on video.

You seem to have magical powers of observation that no one else has

the vedeo does not tell us anything about what happened in the final few seconds of the incident because the two men were not in the camera’s view

but there os no logical reason for the man with the gun to charge the other man and wrestle with him

LOLOL

Exactly how blind are you?? The video shows Travis moving as much as 6 feet towards Arbery. That doesn't require any magic to know; only functioning eyesight.

I concede that the father and son were trying to impede the black guy from running away

Which I have already labeled as stupidity

But I cant see mcmichaels choosing to wrestle with arbrey over procession of the shotgun

That had to be arbreys fatal mistake

I never said he chose to wrestle with Arbery. It may not have even occurred to him that Arbery would do that. I don’t know what he was thinking. That doesn't discount the fact that he did move in on Arbery. It's indisputable -- it's on video.

Arbery is a criminal! He had large spaces to run, but why run if you did nothing wrong?

Where's your link to a news article stating Arbery stole a hammer, troll?

I showed you pics ,, you need a media outlet to report it? Good luck they want racism to be a factor lol

LOL

So you admit the news isn't reporting it?

I’m not looking for them to tell me what I see it real lol hahahhaha

LOLOL

But you already admitted you're deranged and see things that aren't there. No everyone here knows why you can't produce a link to a news article stating that's a hammer. Because you're crazy and it's not.

 

[MacTheKnife]

Don't care if he is not a good person, its not ok to kill some one for nonviolent real or imagined crimes.

No one did dat boyo....certainly not Travis MacMichael.

He essentially comitted suicide....or what would you call charging and attacking a person wid a shotgun?

 

[MacTheKnife]

any normal person would not attack someone with a loaded shotgun

but thats what must have happened

the jogger was attacked and could have been wounded directly in front of the truck because the gunman was in front of the truck and at point blank range from the jogger when the first shot was fired.

I dont think you understand how it works with shotguns. The person holding the gun does not want to get into a wrestling match and will try to keep a comfortable distance

if there was a struggle for the gun arbrey was the one who started it

Idiot, for someone who wanted to keep a safe distance, he sure fucked that up moving towards Arbery.

Calling me names does not make up for a bad argument

there is no video evidence either way

but as I have shown, mcmichaels had no reason to start a wrestling match with arbrey

I call idiots, an "idiot." When you claim the person with the gun wants to keep a comfortable distance when in fact, Travis moved towards Arbery before shooting him for the first time, you're an idiot. So don't be surprised when you get called an "idiot."

Your whining aside, there's video evidence Travis moved in towards Arbery.

Travis is at one point, near the center of the oncoming lane. By the time Arbery rounds the truck and turns towards Travis, Travis is now in the other lane in front of the truck. That's a distance of about 5 to 6 feet Travis moved towards Arbery. It's all on video.

You seem to have magical powers of observation that no one else has

the vedeo does not tell us anything about what happened in the final few seconds of the incident because the two men were not in the camera’s view

but there os no logical reason for the man with the gun to charge the other man and wrestle with him

LOLOL

Exactly how blind are you?? The video shows Travis moving as much as 6 feet towards Arbery. That doesn't require any magic to know; only functioning eyesight.

I concede that the father and son were trying to impede the black guy from running away

Which I have already labeled as stupidity

But I cant see mcmichaels choosing to wrestle with arbrey over procession of the shotgun

That had to be arbreys fatal mistake

I never said he chose to wrestle with Arbery. It may not have even occurred to him that Arbery would do that. I don’t know what he was thinking. That doesn't discount the fact that he did move in on Arbery. It's indisputable -- it's on video.

Arbery is a criminal! He had large spaces to run, but why run if you did nothing wrong?

he ran because he heard the neighbors come out and call 911 to report him....he was hauling ass down the street to get away from the scene.....and then to add to his misfortune his path took him right in front of the house of a former policeman who had investigated him long before....and the former policeman was outside of his house and recognized the suspect and the chase was on.....the black dude realized he would go to jail for a long time if caught...thus he jogged on with much energy....dat nigha could really run when da man was after him. hehheh

But no matter how fast he ran he could not outrun the truck....thus in an agitated state of mind ...aided and abetted by a mental condition of which they are still keeping under wraps....he grew frustrated and very angry and thus out of desperation lashed out aka attacked Travis McMichaels.....end of story.