Waffle House shooting, at least 4 killed

If you think about it, the NRA's two most famous bumper-sticker catchphrases — "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" and "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" — are complete contradictions of each other's reasoning.

if a gun is used to commit a crime, it deserves none of the blame, because it's just a tool, but if a gun is used to prevent a crime, it deserves all of the credit, because no other tool would have done?
 
If you think about it, the NRA's two most famous bumper-sticker catchphrases — "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" and "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" — are complete contradictions of each other's reasoning.

if a gun is used to commit a crime, it deserves none of the blame, because it's just a tool, but if a gun is used to prevent a crime, it deserves all of the credit, because no other tool would have done?
Classic liberal double speak.
 
Heroic black man saves many people by grabbing an AR-15 with his hands. I'm sure Trump will tweet about this man's astonishing heroism ASAP.
 
If you think about it, the NRA's two most famous bumper-sticker catchphrases — "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" and "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" — are complete contradictions of each other's reasoning.

if a gun is used to commit a crime, it deserves none of the blame, because it's just a tool, but if a gun is used to prevent a crime, it deserves all of the credit, because no other tool would have done?
Classic liberal double speak.

please explain to me the logic in which a hammer is just as effective a murder weapon as a gun, but it's useless as a self-defensive weapon compared to a gun. How can both of these things be correct?
 
If you think about it, the NRA's two most famous bumper-sticker catchphrases — "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" and "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" — are complete contradictions of each other's reasoning.

if a gun is used to commit a crime, it deserves none of the blame, because it's just a tool, but if a gun is used to prevent a crime, it deserves all of the credit, because no other tool would have done?

People give the person with the gun credit. Not the gun. The gun cannot do anything without someone to operate it.
 
If you think about it, the NRA's two most famous bumper-sticker catchphrases — "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" and "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" — are complete contradictions of each other's reasoning.

if a gun is used to commit a crime, it deserves none of the blame, because it's just a tool, but if a gun is used to prevent a crime, it deserves all of the credit, because no other tool would have done?

People give the person with the gun credit. Not the gun. The gun cannot do anything without someone to operate it.

It's almost as if the NRA doesn't care whether these talking points are logically consistent as long as the conclusion is "buy more guns".
 
If you think about it, the NRA's two most famous bumper-sticker catchphrases — "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" and "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" — are complete contradictions of each other's reasoning.

if a gun is used to commit a crime, it deserves none of the blame, because it's just a tool, but if a gun is used to prevent a crime, it deserves all of the credit, because no other tool would have done?

People give the person with the gun credit. Not the gun. The gun cannot do anything without someone to operate it.

It's almost as if the NRA doesn't care whether these talking points are logically consistent as long as the conclusion is "buy more guns".

Sure they do. The only one making talking points is yourself. The NRA just tells is it like it is.
 
If you think about it, the NRA's two most famous bumper-sticker catchphrases — "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" and "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" — are complete contradictions of each other's reasoning.

if a gun is used to commit a crime, it deserves none of the blame, because it's just a tool, but if a gun is used to prevent a crime, it deserves all of the credit, because no other tool would have done?
The tool is you. A gun is never to blame. Pray tell, when have you eve seen a gun act out without a person attached, except in your diseased mind?
 
“Gunshot victims are four times more likely to die before reaching a hospital than they were a decade ago, according to a new nationwide analysis from Johns Hopkins. The findings suggest that gunshot injuries may be growing more lethal.”
 
“Gunshot victims are four times more likely to die before reaching a hospital than they were a decade ago, according to a new nationwide analysis from Johns Hopkins. The findings suggest that gunshot injuries may be growing more lethal.”

And that is stupid..... they are the same freaking guns....they haven't changed the caliber of bullets being used...this is another lie created by anti gunners at Johns Hopkins...
 
If you think about it, the NRA's two most famous bumper-sticker catchphrases — "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" and "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" — are complete contradictions of each other's reasoning.

if a gun is used to commit a crime, it deserves none of the blame, because it's just a tool, but if a gun is used to prevent a crime, it deserves all of the credit, because no other tool would have done?
Classic liberal double speak.

please explain to me the logic in which a hammer is just as effective a murder weapon as a gun, but it's useless as a self-defensive weapon compared to a gun. How can both of these things be correct?


Because, moron.... the attacker chooses the location, time and victim to attack....and hammers do actually kill more people than all rifles in this country do......and for self defense.... a gun has range, so if a criminal shoots you from 15 feet away, a hammers does nothing for you...

You are a moron.
 
You know, instead of arguing about race why don't you guys actually discuss something that is pertinent to this event?

One of the things that disturbs me about this is that he got enough attention from the police that they took away his guns.

A while later, authorities gave the guns back to the shooter's father, who then gave the guns to the shooter.

So much for gun regulations being followed.
You got a link? Not that I don't believe you, but I haven't seen any details at all.

Here ya go.......................

Tennessee Waffle House shooting suspect may be armed, police say - CNN

Suspect was once arrested near White House
In July 2017, the United States Secret Service arrested Reinking for being in a restricted area near the White House in Washington, police said.
Authorities in Tazewell County, Illinois, and the FBI interviewed Reinking, Aaron said. At the FBI's request, Reinking's Illinois firearms authorization was revoked, and four weapons -- including the AR-15 used in the Sunday's shooting -- were seized, Aaron said.
Tazwell County authorities later returned the guns to Reinking's father, who acknowledged giving them back to his son, Aaron said.

That is why we need a Federal background check!

Thanks for that.


we have federal background checks......do you people ever do any basic research?
 
I don't know why we spend so much time arguing with these morons, really. No one else reflects me or my actions and should not affect my rights, especially the actions of criminals. That is all there is to it. It doesn't matter what crazy little Johnny did at school or if you used a knife or a gun or a bomb. That is not a reflection on anyone else but crazy little Johnny.
 
Since there are a gazillion messages here I am not going to see if anyone else has made this observation.
An unarmed black man disarmed an armed white man who had an AR15. So why can't white cops arrest black men who are unarmed without killing them first?
 
Another day and another mass shooting. What happens regularly here is very rare where there is strong gun control.



At least four people were killed and several others were injured early Sunday when a gunman opened fire at a Waffle House in Nashville, Tenn., police said.

The alleged gunman, Travis Reinking, 29, began shooting at patrons around 3:25 a.m. Sunday at the Waffle House, located about 16 miles southeast of downtown Nashville, before fleeing the scene, Metro Nashville police said. Authorities had initially said Reinking was a person of interest, but later said he has been identified as a suspect.

"If you see a nude guy walking around this morning call the police department," Don Aaron of the Metro Police Department told WTVF.

A person at the restaurant had wrestled away the alleged shooter's rifle.



Waffle House shooting leaves 4 dead, several injured; gunman sought
Another gun free zone.

Waffle House has a policy of not allowing guns in their restaurants. Unlikely a factor in the site selection.
 

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