Walker's corporate tax cuts put Wisconsin per pupil spending below national average.

[whitehall]

Interesting that the left considers every issue about how much money you throw at it. The Maryland Montgomery County school district spends about 12,549 per student which is about average and ranks high while the Washington D.C. schools spend about 15,743 per student and ranks low. The question is whether throwing money at the education system is a indication of success.

 

[initforme]

This SC) is no better off now than it was 6 years ago. Wages are going dfown though so the plan is working. Big Whig CEOs are walking off with money without creating jobs that were promised. WOrking good. Glad the pro basketball team will be getting their new stadium and 10 more minimum wage jobs will be created after its done. Meanwhile the kids get the shaft. Some thing outweigh the godforsaken dollar but then this is America and we simply are not that great, or bright.

 

[whitehall]

Notice that the actual article doesn't even quote the national average which is around $12,600 per pupil but launches into a freaking anti Walker tirade allegedly based on Wisconsin's school budget but quotes no real numbers? It's another of many, many much ado about nothing attacks on republicans symbolic of the left's desperation.

 

[JimH52]

Walker budget puts Wisconsin per-pupil spending below national average

And this is for the First Time Ever!

Maybe Scotty wants to become President so that he can lower the ratio for the entire country, thereby Wisconsin will not look so bad.

GOOD GRIEF!

And the students are doing just fine showing that amount spent per student is a very poor metric for their performance. I find it amazing that private schools can consistently provide substantially better education, at a fraction of the cost of public schools. Here in my area the public school budget is 8 kish per student. My daughters private school is 4 k. The level of education though, is far superior. And they have similar class student levels.

Give Walker some time. He will send the stata over the cliff.

 

[nat4900]

Sorry, I don't buy any of it. I'm not much into conspiracy theories on the right or left.

That's not what I mean (I must have phrased it poorly).....I'm not saying that there's a conspiracy to stall until Walker is nominated, what I meant to state is that circumstance may play out that the timing between his nomination and corruption charges may indeed coincide...something that the GOP leadership may be a bit worried about.

 

[JimH52]

This SC) is no better off now than it was 6 years ago. Wages are going dfown though so the plan is working. Big Whig CEOs are walking off with money without creating jobs that were promised. WOrking good. Glad the pro basketball team will be getting their new stadium and 10 more minimum wage jobs will be created after its done. Meanwhile the kids get the shaft. Some thing outweigh the godforsaken dollar but then this is America and we simply are not that great, or bright.

Reagan's trickle down at work!

 

[rdean]

Odd they're tied when Illinois has 17 Gold Medals and Wisconsin has only 2.

Besides, the cuts are recent. Give it a little time. For Wisconsin, it's a race to the bottom.

We have had one Wisconsin resident post in this thread who said the state is on the way down. I would think that person knows what they are talking about, since they unlike all the RW loons that have invaded the thread, actually live there.

Look at the right wingers on this thread. They don't care about the damage they cause if they could just "beat the left".

 

[FA_Q2]

Odd they're tied when Illinois has 17 Gold Medals and Wisconsin has only 2.

Besides, the cuts are recent. Give it a little time. For Wisconsin, it's a race to the bottom.

We have had one Wisconsin resident post in this thread who said the state is on the way down. I would think that person knows what they are talking about, since they unlike all the RW loons that have invaded the thread, actually live there.

Look at the right wingers on this thread. They don't care about the damage they cause if they could just "beat the left".

Yes, let’s look at the wingnuts in this thread like the above poster that continually refer to ‘damage’ but fail to actually cite any damage whatsoever.
Another nutter that thinks $$=performance even when those dollars are misappropriated.

 

[FA_Q2]

Odd they're tied when Illinois has 17 Gold Medals and Wisconsin has only 2.

Besides, the cuts are recent. Give it a little time. For Wisconsin, it's a race to the bottom.

We have had one Wisconsin resident post in this thread who said the state is on the way down. I would think that person knows what they are talking about, since they unlike all the RW loons that have invaded the thread, actually live there.

Of course, you continue to feed your confirmation bias without presenting any data at all.
Why am I not surprised.

 

[FA_Q2]

Walker budget puts Wisconsin per-pupil spending below national average

And this is for the First Time Ever!

Maybe Scotty wants to become President so that he can lower the ratio for the entire country, thereby Wisconsin will not look so bad.

GOOD GRIEF!

This is happening in many states with Republican governors and legislatures. They cut state spending on education to help balance their budgets because they cut taxes too much. Communities are then forced into raising property taxes that much more to compensate for the shortfall. If it is a well off community such as mine, then they pass the additional school levies to keep all of the school programs. The problem is that many communities cannot afford the additional tax burden and end up voting down the tax increases. We have a community just south of where I live that is in this exact predicament. They did finally pass a school levy on May 5th, but this came after defeating two previous levies. Had this levy failed, it would have been a catastrophe to the school district as they would have cut almost all transportation and all sports. Many parents were saying that if it were defeated, they would be forced to move to a different district, which would have moved to hurt home values and in the long run, property tax revenue. Unfortunately, this idea of cutting taxes doesn't always work the way Republicans tell us it does.

So you mean government has to live within it's means?????

THE HORROR!!!!!!!

You obviously missed the point. The tax cuts were not really tax cuts. By cutting taxes at the state level and paying for it by cutting school funding, the tax burden was just shifted to the local level. There was no tax savings, and all it did was put a much larger strain on the communities that can afford it the least. This works great if you believe that only wealthy communities should be able to offer a full slate of educational programs as well as athletic programs for their students. The reason states have been responsible for a certain percentage of school funding in the past is exactly for this reason, so that poorer communities could offer at least close to the same educational opportunity as those from wealthy communities. I know, I know. It's that damn socialistic concept again. Fuck the poor people. If they can't make it on their own, too fucking bad.

No, everyone gets your point. The fact is that you are not substantiating it at all. Average per pupil spending is down. Where is the data that reinforces your assertion that the local communities have filled in that gap? Again, funding per student is not a reasonable indicator of educational quality so your pint really is lost anyway. You are still demanding that the spending gap is the core problem and that is false.

If you TRULY believed in even education you would abandon the idea that wealth needs to be spread around the schools and, instead, support school choice. THAT is the key barrier to students in poor areas with poor schools face in getting into a better school. They are not allowed to go to the better schools. Throwing more money at failed districts does nothing but waste those dollars – brining students that actually care and have parents that actually care to the succeeding districts will have a FAR greater positive effect for those that want it.

Democrats have fought that idea tooth and nail though as hard as they can. It is because it is not good for the unions – the real reason that the Democratic Party ‘cares’ about ‘education.’

 

[guno]

Walker budget puts Wisconsin per-pupil spending below national average

And this is for the First Time Ever!

Maybe Scotty wants to become President so that he can lower the ratio for the entire country, thereby Wisconsin will not look so bad.

GOOD GRIEF!

Walker has more in common with the southern inbred wing of the party

 

[Anathema]

Walker budget puts Wisconsin per-pupil spending below national average

And this is for the First Time Ever!

Maybe Scotty wants to become President so that he can lower the ratio for the entire country, thereby Wisconsin will not look so bad.

I can't speak to the Wisconsin Constitution, but the only legitimate thing for him to do as POTUS would be to remove ALL Federal monies (in ALL forms) from ALL public and private schools. There is no legitimate Constitutional Mandate for ANY Federal monies to be spent on Education. Nor is there a legitimate mandate for any Federal LEGISLATION on Education.
GOOD GRIEF!

 

[JimH52]

Walker budget puts Wisconsin per-pupil spending below national average

And this is for the First Time Ever!

Maybe Scotty wants to become President so that he can lower the ratio for the entire country, thereby Wisconsin will not look so bad.

GOOD GRIEF!

Walker has more in common with the southern inbred wing of the party

There you go! He can depend on the FOX Groupies of the south!

 

[Spare_change]

Odd they're tied when Illinois has 17 Gold Medals and Wisconsin has only 2.

Besides, the cuts are recent. Give it a little time. For Wisconsin, it's a race to the bottom.

We have had one Wisconsin resident post in this thread who said the state is on the way down. I would think that person knows what they are talking about, since they unlike all the RW loons that have invaded the thread, actually live there.

Look at the right wingers on this thread. They don't care about the damage they cause if they could just "beat the left".

IF, or when, you actually show us the "damage", we'll listen ... until then, you're just whistling in the dark.

 

[Papageorgio]

Sorry, I don't buy any of it. I'm not much into conspiracy theories on the right or left.

So you don't want Hillary behind bars?

Not really, you want Obama, Hillary, Bush or Walker behind bars?


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[Papageorgio]

This SC) is no better off now than it was 6 years ago. Wages are going dfown though so the plan is working. Big Whig CEOs are walking off with money without creating jobs that were promised. WOrking good. Glad the pro basketball team will be getting their new stadium and 10 more minimum wage jobs will be created after its done. Meanwhile the kids get the shaft. Some thing outweigh the godforsaken dollar but then this is America and we simply are not that great, or bright.

How is Adding money to education going to improve education, when it has not improved it in the past?


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[Papageorgio]

Odd they're tied when Illinois has 17 Gold Medals and Wisconsin has only 2.

Besides, the cuts are recent. Give it a little time. For Wisconsin, it's a race to the bottom.

We have had one Wisconsin resident post in this thread who said the state is on the way down. I would think that person knows what they are talking about, since they unlike all the RW loons that have invaded the thread, actually live there.

Look at the right wingers on this thread. They don't care about the damage they cause if they could just "beat the left".

Nutter, what damage? You need proof and you don't have any. We have kept raising the spending with no improvement in education. So lets cut waste and see what the result will be. Or is being fair not in your DNA?


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[JimH52]

Sorry, I don't buy any of it. I'm not much into conspiracy theories on the right or left.

So you don't want Hillary behind bars?

Not really, you want Obama, Hillary, Bush or Walker behind bars?


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If they are, they may have a cell mate with extremely closely aligned eyes named Walker......

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

This SC) is no better off now than it was 6 years ago. Wages are going dfown though so the plan is working. Big Whig CEOs are walking off with money without creating jobs that were promised. WOrking good. Glad the pro basketball team will be getting their new stadium and 10 more minimum wage jobs will be created after its done. Meanwhile the kids get the shaft. Some thing outweigh the godforsaken dollar but then this is America and we simply are not that great, or bright.

How is Adding money to education going to improve education, when it has not improved it in the past?


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You apparently didn't get the memo, when you do something and it doesn't work, then you just double-down on that which doesn't work.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

There needs to be guranteed increases in education spending every year.

For the kiddies ! Lol