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Walker's corporate tax cuts put Wisconsin per pupil spending below national average.

Walker budget puts Wisconsin per-pupil spending below national average

And this is for the First Time Ever!

Maybe Scotty wants to become President so that he can lower the ratio for the entire country, thereby Wisconsin will not look so bad.

GOOD GRIEF!

This is happening in many states with Republican governors and legislatures. They cut state spending on education to help balance their budgets because they cut taxes too much. Communities are then forced into raising property taxes that much more to compensate for the shortfall. If it is a well off community such as mine, then they pass the additional school levies to keep all of the school programs. The problem is that many communities cannot afford the additional tax burden and end up voting down the tax increases. We have a community just south of where I live that is in this exact predicament. They did finally pass a school levy on May 5th, but this came after defeating two previous levies. Had this levy failed, it would have been a catastrophe to the school district as they would have cut almost all transportation and all sports. Many parents were saying that if it were defeated, they would be forced to move to a different district, which would have moved to hurt home values and in the long run, property tax revenue. Unfortunately, this idea of cutting taxes doesn't always work the way Republicans tell us it does.

So you mean government has to live within it's means?????

THE HORROR!!!!!!!

You obviously missed the point. The tax cuts were not really tax cuts. By cutting taxes at the state level and paying for it by cutting school funding, the tax burden was just shifted to the local level. There was no tax savings, and all it did was put a much larger strain on the communities that can afford it the least. This works great if you believe that only wealthy communities should be able to offer a full slate of educational programs as well as athletic programs for their students. The reason states have been responsible for a certain percentage of school funding in the past is exactly for this reason, so that poorer communities could offer at least close to the same educational opportunity as those from wealthy communities. I know, I know. It's that damn socialistic concept again. Fuck the poor people. If they can't make it on their own, too fucking bad.

Once again progressives confuse throwing money at something with caring, or more importantly, results. For all the money thrown at public education, the results don't seem to be what is promised. The only "fucking of the poor" is done by you well intentioned, but poor at results types.

Who is throwing money at anything? Again you are completely missing the point that these states have cut funding to schools, not the other way around.
 
Walker budget puts Wisconsin per-pupil spending below national average

And this is for the First Time Ever!

Maybe Scotty wants to become President so that he can lower the ratio for the entire country, thereby Wisconsin will not look so bad.

GOOD GRIEF!

He also has sub-par economic growth and his employment numbers are lower than the national average.

but he can deal with ISIS because he knows how to handle an elementary school teacher. :cuckoo:
Walker budget puts Wisconsin per-pupil spending below national average

And this is for the First Time Ever!

Maybe Scotty wants to become President so that he can lower the ratio for the entire country, thereby Wisconsin will not look so bad.

GOOD GRIEF!

This is happening in many states with Republican governors and legislatures. They cut state spending on education to help balance their budgets because they cut taxes too much. Communities are then forced into raising property taxes that much more to compensate for the shortfall. If it is a well off community such as mine, then they pass the additional school levies to keep all of the school programs. The problem is that many communities cannot afford the additional tax burden and end up voting down the tax increases. We have a community just south of where I live that is in this exact predicament. They did finally pass a school levy on May 5th, but this came after defeating two previous levies. Had this levy failed, it would have been a catastrophe to the school district as they would have cut almost all transportation and all sports. Many parents were saying that if it were defeated, they would be forced to move to a different district, which would have moved to hurt home values and in the long run, property tax revenue. Unfortunately, this idea of cutting taxes doesn't always work the way Republicans tell us it does.

So you mean government has to live within it's means?????

THE HORROR!!!!!!!

You obviously missed the point. The tax cuts were not really tax cuts. By cutting taxes at the state level and paying for it by cutting school funding, the tax burden was just shifted to the local level. There was no tax savings, and all it did was put a much larger strain on the communities that can afford it the least. This works great if you believe that only wealthy communities should be able to offer a full slate of educational programs as well as athletic programs for their students. The reason states have been responsible for a certain percentage of school funding in the past is exactly for this reason, so that poorer communities could offer at least close to the same educational opportunity as those from wealthy communities. I know, I know. It's that damn socialistic concept again. Fuck the poor people. If they can't make it on their own, too fucking bad.

Once again progressives confuse throwing money at something with caring, or more importantly, results. For all the money thrown at public education, the results don't seem to be what is promised. The only "fucking of the poor" is done by you well intentioned, but poor at results types.

Who is throwing money at anything? Again you are completely missing the point that these states have cut funding to schools, not the other way around.

I've tried to find details of the "cuts" everyone is complaining about, and so far I can't tell if this is the new round of university cuts, or the ones in 2011 that progressives were whining about. Does anyone have an actual link to WHAT what cut?
 
Walker budget puts Wisconsin per-pupil spending below national average

And this is for the First Time Ever!

Maybe Scotty wants to become President so that he can lower the ratio for the entire country, thereby Wisconsin will not look so bad.

GOOD GRIEF!

This is happening in many states with Republican governors and legislatures. They cut state spending on education to help balance their budgets because they cut taxes too much. Communities are then forced into raising property taxes that much more to compensate for the shortfall. If it is a well off community such as mine, then they pass the additional school levies to keep all of the school programs. The problem is that many communities cannot afford the additional tax burden and end up voting down the tax increases. We have a community just south of where I live that is in this exact predicament. They did finally pass a school levy on May 5th, but this came after defeating two previous levies. Had this levy failed, it would have been a catastrophe to the school district as they would have cut almost all transportation and all sports. Many parents were saying that if it were defeated, they would be forced to move to a different district, which would have moved to hurt home values and in the long run, property tax revenue. Unfortunately, this idea of cutting taxes doesn't always work the way Republicans tell us it does.

So you mean government has to live within it's means?????

THE HORROR!!!!!!!

You obviously missed the point. The tax cuts were not really tax cuts. By cutting taxes at the state level and paying for it by cutting school funding, the tax burden was just shifted to the local level. There was no tax savings, and all it did was put a much larger strain on the communities that can afford it the least. This works great if you believe that only wealthy communities should be able to offer a full slate of educational programs as well as athletic programs for their students. The reason states have been responsible for a certain percentage of school funding in the past is exactly for this reason, so that poorer communities could offer at least close to the same educational opportunity as those from wealthy communities. I know, I know. It's that damn socialistic concept again. Fuck the poor people. If they can't make it on their own, too fucking bad.
So communities couldnt afford the schools they themselves had voted for. This is a problem, why?

Again there is no problem if you believe that kids from wealthier communities should be allowed many more educational opportunities than those from communities that are not so wealthy. I mean this is what has developed into the main difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives want to protect everything for themselves and not have any concern for those who are not as fortunate as themselves, where liberals tend to believe that we still should all have at least close to an equal opportunity for long term success. Where you cons go so wrong, and what drove me away from most conservative principles is that you actually believe that everyone has an equal opportunity at success in life when in fact many people are very privileged and many others have very little chance at success due to how and where they grow up.
 
The study, below, is from last year...

Wisconsin has had the second deepest slash in per-student spending in the nation since 2008 — second only to Alabama — according to a study by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

Spending per pupil in Wisconsin was down $1,038 from 2008 for the school year just ended. Alabama cut per-pupil spending by $1,242.

Alabama and Wisconsin led the list of at least 35 states providing less funding per student than they did before the recession hit.

Wisconsin spending per pupil is 15.3 percent lower than in 2008, making it among 14 states where per-pupil spending remains at least 10 percent lower than before the economic recession.

State Rep. Sondy Pope, D-Cross Plains, who sits on the Assembly Education Committee, says the continued cuts are proof that Gov. Scott Walker wants to sell public education to private for-profit schools.
Wisconsin second only to Alabama in cuts to education funding study shows Ct
 
The study, below, is from last year...

Wisconsin has had the second deepest slash in per-student spending in the nation since 2008 — second only to Alabama — according to a study by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

Spending per pupil in Wisconsin was down $1,038 from 2008 for the school year just ended. Alabama cut per-pupil spending by $1,242.

Alabama and Wisconsin led the list of at least 35 states providing less funding per student than they did before the recession hit.

Wisconsin spending per pupil is 15.3 percent lower than in 2008, making it among 14 states where per-pupil spending remains at least 10 percent lower than before the economic recession.

State Rep. Sondy Pope, D-Cross Plains, who sits on the Assembly Education Committee, says the continued cuts are proof that Gov. Scott Walker wants to sell public education to private for-profit schools.
Wisconsin second only to Alabama in cuts to education funding study shows Ct


With all the money thrown at schools, I haven't seen the results. So I am for curtailing it and looking at new ideas.
 
At one time, WI's politics were less corrupt than many other states.....With Walker at the helm, this is no longer the case and the governor's problems are not about to go away, especially in the increasing scrutiny of his presidential bid.


The Wisconsin Supreme Court has agreed to review the long-running investigation into possible criminal campaign finance violations by Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker's campaign and "dark money" electoral nonprofit groups, setting the stage for significant questions about conflicts-of-interest on the court and the future of clean elections in Wisconsin.

The Court's decision to take the case raises serious questions of judicial ethics, as the majority of justices were elected with millions of dollars in backing from precisely the same groups that face criminal liability in the probe, as the Center for Media and Democracy first described. The two groups at the center of the investigation, Wisconsin Club for Growth (WiCFG) and Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce (WMC), have together spent over $10 million since 2007 helping elect the court's four-justice conservative majority, in most cases spending more than the candidates themselves. This means that the court's majority has the power to decide whether their biggest supporters will face criminal liability.

The Wisconsin Supreme Court has grown notorious for its lax recusal practices, but many legal experts think that these circumstances demand that at least some of the justices step aside. -

Conflicted Supreme Court Takes Up Walker Criminal Probe PR Watch
 
Scott Walker's troubles are growing as Democratic lawmakers in Wisconsin are calling for a federal investigation into the governor's jobs agency.

The more salient point is that the investigation is led by a staunch republican who actually voted for Walker in 2012; some republicans DO have integrity.
 
Walker budget puts Wisconsin per-pupil spending below national average

And this is for the First Time Ever!

Maybe Scotty wants to become President so that he can lower the ratio for the entire country, thereby Wisconsin will not look so bad.

GOOD GRIEF!

This is happening in many states with Republican governors and legislatures. They cut state spending on education to help balance their budgets because they cut taxes too much. Communities are then forced into raising property taxes that much more to compensate for the shortfall. If it is a well off community such as mine, then they pass the additional school levies to keep all of the school programs. The problem is that many communities cannot afford the additional tax burden and end up voting down the tax increases. We have a community just south of where I live that is in this exact predicament. They did finally pass a school levy on May 5th, but this came after defeating two previous levies. Had this levy failed, it would have been a catastrophe to the school district as they would have cut almost all transportation and all sports. Many parents were saying that if it were defeated, they would be forced to move to a different district, which would have moved to hurt home values and in the long run, property tax revenue. Unfortunately, this idea of cutting taxes doesn't always work the way Republicans tell us it does.

So you mean government has to live within it's means?????

THE HORROR!!!!!!!

You obviously missed the point. The tax cuts were not really tax cuts. By cutting taxes at the state level and paying for it by cutting school funding, the tax burden was just shifted to the local level. There was no tax savings, and all it did was put a much larger strain on the communities that can afford it the least. This works great if you believe that only wealthy communities should be able to offer a full slate of educational programs as well as athletic programs for their students. The reason states have been responsible for a certain percentage of school funding in the past is exactly for this reason, so that poorer communities could offer at least close to the same educational opportunity as those from wealthy communities. I know, I know. It's that damn socialistic concept again. Fuck the poor people. If they can't make it on their own, too fucking bad.

Once again progressives confuse throwing money at something with caring, or more importantly, results. For all the money thrown at public education, the results don't seem to be what is promised. The only "fucking of the poor" is done by you well intentioned, but poor at results types.

Who is throwing money at anything? Again you are completely missing the point that these states have cut funding to schools, not the other way around.

Sorry, you will need to draw some pictures to get some of the RW loons to understand.
 
Walker is following the republican-tea-sipping dictum (also advocated by the Koch brothers) that the more services get privatized, the better the economy will be.....Of course, he (and others) are wrong.....but they are constantly trying....from the post office to prisons....from railroads to private schools.
 
Gee, the schools need some work, but they rank # 2 in the nation on ACT scores.
Wisconsin s ACT test scores keep high U.S. ranking

Now can we compare them to Baltimore's failing schools, which have the third highest cost per student in the nation.

No one from Baltimore is running for President. Scotty is. I am sure he has made all Wisconsin's proud that he has now given them a second class school system.

"LET ME BECOME PRESIDENT SO I CAN DO THE SAME FOR AMERICA!"

Proof isn't in your rhetoric --- show us the numbers.

Show us how bad the Wisconsin school systems are ...

We'll wait.
 
have heard this since before his recall election, get on with it. Talk about milking a story

I agree that it has taken way too long.....but if you look at post #86 you'd see that its the WI Supreme court that is stalling because they are in a no-win situation (following the objectivity of the law versus "betraying" their wealthy donors.)

My point is that IF (a big "if") Walker is indeed the nominee, the possible corruption charges against him would have a much more profound impact than they would if he were just the state's governor.
 
Sorry, I don't buy any of it. I'm not much into conspiracy theories on the right or left.
 
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Walker budget puts Wisconsin per-pupil spending below national average

And this is for the First Time Ever!

Maybe Scotty wants to become President so that he can lower the ratio for the entire country, thereby Wisconsin will not look so bad.

GOOD GRIEF!





And the students are doing just fine showing that amount spent per student is a very poor metric for their performance. I find it amazing that private schools can consistently provide substantially better education, at a fraction of the cost of public schools. Here in my area the public school budget is 8 kish per student. My daughters private school is 4 k. The level of education though, is far superior. And they have similar class student levels.
 

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