Want gun control? Fight smart.

[TNHarley]

You realize, of course, that hunting has frak all to do with the 2nd Amendment.

Try reading all of the remarks. I'm responding to OP's assertion that nobody hunts with an AR15.

The general response is, yes, you can hunt with an AR15, but as we get talking, no one I've talked to actually uses one for hunting. That is all I'm saying.

Yes. A tiny number of hunters you spoke with don't happen to choose an AR15 to hunt with means pretty much nothing.

To be fair, there isnt much logic at all being applied to the gun debate.

It depends what degree he/she had..Very little time on psychology/ looks like no education on addiction here is the link..I will look later on the social workers crediticials who saw him..I am busy today.
This is for Texas..so I will also look for florida requirements.

Degree Requirements – Steve Hicks School of Social Work – University of Texas

Awesome. Although you probably should have already known, considering you were passing it off as fact..

 

[TNHarley]

Remember when that racist ran over that girl at a NAZI rally? Do you remember people blamed him and his group and not the car? JW

It’s like you don’t understand that objects have purposes. The purpose of guns is to kill living beings.

ahh yes, inanimate objects. Say, dont they need a human to work? I mean, they arent AI or anything are they?

 

[cnm]

Come down to my neck of the woods

Not if idiots are hunting with ARs.

 

[TNHarley]

Come down to my neck of the woods

Not if idiots are hunting with ARs.

I wasnt inviting you

 

[cnm]

You realize, of course, that hunting has frak all to do with the 2nd Amendment.

Just as ARs have bugger all to do with a well regulated militia.

 

[ricechickie]

Remember when that racist ran over that girl at a NAZI rally? Do you remember people blamed him and his group and not the car? JW

It’s like you don’t understand that objects have purposes. The purpose of guns is to kill living beings.

ahh yes, inanimate objects. Say, dont they need a human to work? I mean, they arent AI or anything are they?

That goes without saying.

But your comparison to someone who used a car is stupid. Cars are tools of transportation. Guns are tools of killing.

 

[cnm]

.223 has evolved. You should check it out.

What have you used the .223 on?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Remember when that racist ran over that girl at a NAZI rally? Do you remember people blamed him and his group and not the car? JW

It’s like you don’t understand that objects have purposes. The purpose of guns is to kill living beings.

The purpose of a gun is to accurately propel a projectile at a chosen target.

That target is chosen not by the gun but the person firing it.

 

[TNHarley]

Remember when that racist ran over that girl at a NAZI rally? Do you remember people blamed him and his group and not the car? JW

It’s like you don’t understand that objects have purposes. The purpose of guns is to kill living beings.

ahh yes, inanimate objects. Say, dont they need a human to work? I mean, they arent AI or anything are they?

That goes without saying.

But your comparison to someone who used a car is stupid. Cars are tools of transportation. Guns are tools of killing.

Why are you trying to spin inconsistency? Isnt very honest of you, my dear.

 

[usmbguest5318]

The general response is, yes, you can hunt with an AR15, but as we get talking, no one I've talked to actually uses one for hunting. That is all I'm saying.

I don't care if one can or cannot hunt with an AR-15 (and its variants). I know one can fatally shoot lots of people with one, even if one can't kill anything else with an AR-15, and judging by the weapons actually used in mass shootings since 2012 or so, it's the firearm of choice among the wackos who commit such crimes. Why is it that wackos so often use/have AR-15-like firearms to commit their crimes? I don't know; presumably for the same reason(s) AR-15 and its variants are America's most popular rifle in the U.S.

When Bill Cinton banned the AR-15 columbine high school shooting happened. Didn't do squat. Of course Columbine was a gun free zone, but alas stupid people actually believe that EVIL people wont bring their guns there. In my area, schools don't have to worry about people with guns and teachers are allowed to carry. Feeling lucky punk!!!!

Bill Cinton banned the AR-15 columbine high school shooting happened. Didn't do squat.

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Mass shooting deaths held steady for the ten year period covered by the ban, and then after the ban, the rate and quantity of mass shooting events and deaths, both, have increased dramatically. Sorry, but I but, I'd that looks like and is "squat."

 

[Skull Pilot]

.223 has evolved. You should check it out.

What have you used the .223 on?

I used to shoot coons and groundhogs with them when I was a kid a coyote on occasion and a rabid skunk once.

Lately I tend to stick to target shooting

 

[cnm]

But I hear they got "bought out" by the gun manufacturers somewhere down the line, who of course had the profit motive alone on their minds.

The NRA now receive around half their revenue from the firearms industry.

 

[ricechickie]

Unfortunately, this has drifted far from the main premise of the thread.

If we treat each other as labels, it’s not productive. If we treat each other as people, maybe we can find some common ground.

 

[Auld Phart]

You realize, of course, that hunting has frak all to do with the 2nd Amendment.

Just as ARs have bugger all to do with a well regulated militia.

Just as ARs have bugger all to do with a well regulated militia.

Why would it need to?

 

[cnm]

How The Gun Industry Funnels Tens Of Millions Of Dollars To The NRA

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/

While that is still part of the organisation’s core function, today less than half of the NRA’s revenues come from program fees and membership dues.

The bulk of the group’s money now comes in the form of contributions, grants, royalty income, and advertising, much of it originating from gun industry sources.​

 

[The Derp]

yes, you can hunt with an AR15, but as we get talking, no one I've talked to actually uses one for hunting.

No surprise that. On several hunting enthusiast sites one finds lists of the editors' top pics for deer hunting.

• Outdoor Life
• Game and Fish
• Field and Stream
  • Sub $1000 options
• American Whitetail
• Grand View Outdoors

Of all the rifles mentioned, only once is an AR-15 variant cited as among the best rifles for hunting deer.

I also checked a few sites/listings focused on big game hunting. Again, the AR-15 ilk of guns didn't appear.

• I Like Big Guns and I Cannot Lie: Best Big Bore Rifles - Pew Pew Tactical
  
• You Can Hunt Any Animal in the World with Just These 4 Guns
  
• The Best Big Game Rifles of All Time - Petersen's Hunting
  
• The 20 Best Elk Hunting Rifles Ever Made

So while one may or may not be able to use an AR-15-like rifle for hunting, there are plenty of alternatives up and down the the price spectrum.

Why not hunt with a bow or crossbow instead?

 

[Auld Phart]

Remember when that racist ran over that girl at a NAZI rally? Do you remember people blamed him and his group and not the car? JW

It’s like you don’t understand that objects have purposes. The purpose of guns is to kill living beings.

ahh yes, inanimate objects. Say, dont they need a human to work? I mean, they arent AI or anything are they?

That goes without saying.

But your comparison to someone who used a car is stupid. Cars are tools of transportation. Guns are tools of killing.

Really?

over the last 50 years of owning approximately 100 firearms, not one of them has killed anyone.

Squirrels, rabbits, etc, yes..

but not one human

 

[Skull Pilot]

But I hear they got "bought out" by the gun manufacturers somewhere down the line, who of course had the profit motive alone on their minds.

The NRA now receive around half their revenue from the firearms industry.

Link

 

[cnm]

Why would it need to?

Because a well regulated militia is the Constitutional reason for the right to bear arms not being infringed.

 

[Skull Pilot]

yes, you can hunt with an AR15, but as we get talking, no one I've talked to actually uses one for hunting.

No surprise that. On several hunting enthusiast sites one finds lists of the editors' top pics for deer hunting.

• Outdoor Life
• Game and Fish
• Field and Stream
  • Sub $1000 options
• American Whitetail
• Grand View Outdoors

Of all the rifles mentioned, only once is an AR-15 variant cited as among the best rifles for hunting deer.

I also checked a few sites/listings focused on big game hunting. Again, the AR-15 ilk of guns didn't appear.

• I Like Big Guns and I Cannot Lie: Best Big Bore Rifles - Pew Pew Tactical
  
• You Can Hunt Any Animal in the World with Just These 4 Guns
  
• The Best Big Game Rifles of All Time - Petersen's Hunting
  
• The 20 Best Elk Hunting Rifles Ever Made

So while one may or may not be able to use an AR-15-like rifle for hunting, there are plenty of alternatives up and down the the price spectrum.

Why not hunt with a bow or crossbow instead?

Why don't you ride a horse to work?
Why don't you dig a well and haul water up by hand?