Was Yeshua gay?

[UllysesS.Archer]

Jesus never called himself G-d ........other people later on did.

The crucifix was an invention of later Christian doctrine...........the actual untranslated word in the Greek NT was either a "stake" or a "tree".

Jesus never advocated not honoring a person's mother or father when he told certain disciples to follow him.

When performing the water into wine miracle, Jesus gave all of the credit to G-d not himself.


Again, Jesus never broke any of the 613 mitzvot.

Jesus taught at the Temple in Jerusalem so obviously he was a righteous Rabbi. ......

Did Yeshua ever teach, walk around outside his home, do anything like work or labor on the Sabbath? Unless every Sabbath he was at home, the simple act of leaving your place of residence is a death-penalty sin.

Not to travel on Shabbat outside the limits of one's place of residence (Ex. 16:29)

Did you really hope to fool anyone by using Scripture, in an interpretation that is totally WRONG.
Exodus 16:29"See, the LORD has given you the sabbath; therefore He gives you bread for two days on the sixth day. Remain every man in his place; let no man go out of his place on the seventh day."

This was during the time of the exodus, and God was providing manna for the people, He commanded them to gather twice as much on Friday, so they wouldn't have to gather on Sabbath.

Again, Jesus broke none of the laws, not a one, no matter how much you wish to say he did.

Now, why don't you answer this question. Why have you not yet killed yourself for breaking a law, that demands your death, according to your own religion?

Leviticus 20:13
New International Version
"'If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
New Living Translation
"If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.
English Standard Version
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
New American Standard Bible
If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.
King James Bible
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
If a man sleeps with a man as with a woman, they have both committed a detestable thing. They must be put to death; their blood is on their own hands.
International Standard Version
"If a man has sexual relations with another male as he would with a woman, both have committed a repulsive act. They are certainly to be put to death.
NET Bible
If a man has sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman, the two of them have committed an abomination. They must be put to death; their blood guilt is on themselves.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
When a man has sexual intercourse with another man as with a woman, both men are doing something disgusting and must be put to death. They deserve to die.
Jubilee Bible 2000
If a man shall join himself with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
King James 2000 Bible
If a man also lies with a man, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
American King James Version
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them.
American Standard Version
And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Douay-Rheims Bible
If any one lie with a man se with a woman, both have committed an abomination, let them be put to death: their blood be upon them.
Darby Bible Translation
And if a man lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall certainly be put to death; their blood is upon them.
English Revised Version
And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Webster's Bible Translation
If a man also shall lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
World English Bible
"'If a man lies with a male, as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Young's Literal Translation
And a man who lieth with a male as one lieth with a woman; abomination both of them have done; they are certainly put to death; their blood is on them

Read any translation you wish, they all say the same thing. And YOUR religion demands that you should be put to death. For you have admitted to being a bi-sexual.

Yet you accuse Jesus of being gay? With no proof whatsoever, and that too breaks your own laws. It seems that you have broken the laws of your own religion, yet wish to make accusations that Jesus deserved to be crucified, while He broke none.

YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE! No one who knows anything at all about Jewish laws can say otherwise, and not themselves become a hypocrite.

So I ask again, when shall we hear of your death by your own hands? Or would you rather just admit that you only pick and choose certain verses that fit YOUR purpose, and not God's purpose.

 

[guno]

So which of the 613 Mitzvot did Rabbi Jesus break?? ......

for one he picked plants on sabbath

 

[guno]

Old topic I know, but it came to me the other night. Single Jewish guy, discontent with Judaism starts going around with a dozen other single Jewish malcontents reinventing the faith where after recognizing God, the 2nd most important commandment is love your neighbor as you love yourself.

Given how much emphasis is placed on Jews to marry, an unmarried Jewish man who gets followers is more than slightly suspect. Could it be they were all gay and flocked together to start a new cult where that's ok? Other than the hag Mary Magdalene, it was a total sausage fest.

Paul even had a devotee' madly in love with him, Thecla but rebuffed her affections and advances. That's not normative Jewish behaviour. Especially among the religious types. It's said even today that Jews should marry so their not obsessing on sexual desires and thoughts. And to be unmarried is just shy of actual sin. Rabbis wont welcome you into their homes if not married fearing that sexual immorality thinking coming into their home. It's not a matter of being free to choose to remain single like today. It would have been a huge red flag back then. And one standout is plausible, but 13?

Going by your posts this morning, it seems that you are having a rough time reconciling your bi-sexuality and your religious convictions.

If you were Christian, I would advise you to seek out some elders in the church, as you are Jewish, I don't know if you have anything that resembles elders in the church, other than just older Jews.

The 10 commandments and the Sabbath were given ONLY to Jews, but the Goim falsely state that the Ten Commandments are for all mankind

The very words of the ten commandments clearly tells us that the commandments were for the Jewish people ONLY not the Goyim

1. God never brought the goyim or their ancestors out of Egypt! Ex 20:2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery."
2. The Lord has not given the goyim the promised land of Canaan! Ex 20:12 "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be prolonged in the land which the Lord your God gives you"
3. Since the Sabbath is a sign between God and fleshly Israel, there is nothing requiring the goyim to keep it! (Ex. 31:13,17; Ezek. 20:12, 20)
4. If it was intended for all mankind, then why specifically say "strangers within your gates". Obviously the Goyim (strangers) were never required at any point in earth history to keep the Sabbath

 

[Indeependent]

The Bible says that Jesus was a righteous Rabbi who taught the Torah and never violated any of it's 613 laws.

Based in that; Jesus was opposed to sodomy and taught that it was a grave sin and an abomination to G-d.

When you find the nonexistent verse, let me know.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

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[Indeependent]

Jesus never called himself G-d ........other people later on did.

The crucifix was an invention of later Christian doctrine...........the actual untranslated word in the Greek NT was either a "stake" or a "tree".

Jesus never advocated not honoring a person's mother or father when he told certain disciples to follow him.

When performing the water into wine miracle, Jesus gave all of the credit to G-d not himself.


Again, Jesus never broke any of the 613 mitzvot.

Jesus taught at the Temple in Jerusalem so obviously he was a righteous Rabbi. ......

Did Yeshua ever teach, walk around outside his home, do anything like work or labor on the Sabbath? Unless every Sabbath he was at home, the simple act of leaving your place of residence is a death-penalty sin.

Not to travel on Shabbat outside the limits of one's place of residence (Ex. 16:29)

 

[Indeependent]

Jesus never called himself G-d ........other people later on did.

The crucifix was an invention of later Christian doctrine...........the actual untranslated word in the Greek NT was either a "stake" or a "tree".

Jesus never advocated not honoring a person's mother or father when he told certain disciples to follow him.

When performing the water into wine miracle, Jesus gave all of the credit to G-d not himself.


Again, Jesus never broke any of the 613 mitzvot.

Jesus taught at the Temple in Jerusalem so obviously he was a righteous Rabbi. ......

Did Yeshua ever teach, walk around outside his home, do anything like work or labor on the Sabbath? Unless every Sabbath he was at home, the simple act of leaving your place of residence is a death-penalty sin.

Not to travel on Shabbat outside the limits of one's place of residence (Ex. 16:29)

Violating the eruv incurs the death penalty?
Really?
Verse please.

 

[BillyP]

Jesus never called himself G-d ........other people later on did.

The crucifix was an invention of later Christian doctrine...........the actual untranslated word in the Greek NT was either a "stake" or a "tree".

Jesus never advocated not honoring a person's mother or father when he told certain disciples to follow him.

When performing the water into wine miracle, Jesus gave all of the credit to G-d not himself.


Again, Jesus never broke any of the 613 mitzvot.

Jesus taught at the Temple in Jerusalem so obviously he was a righteous Rabbi. ......

Did Yeshua ever teach, walk around outside his home, do anything like work or labor on the Sabbath? Unless every Sabbath he was at home, the simple act of leaving your place of residence is a death-penalty sin.

Not to travel on Shabbat outside the limits of one's place of residence (Ex. 16:29)

Jesus was a preaching hobo. Lots of those around today.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Old topic I know, but it came to me the other night. Single Jewish guy, discontent with Judaism starts going around with a dozen other single Jewish malcontents reinventing the faith where after recognizing God, the 2nd most important commandment is love your neighbor as you love yourself.

Given how much emphasis is placed on Jews to marry, an unmarried Jewish man who gets followers is more than slightly suspect. Could it be they were all gay and flocked together to start a new cult where that's ok? Other than the hag Mary Magdalene, it was a total sausage fest.

Paul even had a devotee' madly in love with him, Thecla but rebuffed her affections and advances. That's not normative Jewish behaviour. Especially among the religious types. It's said even today that Jews should marry so their not obsessing on sexual desires and thoughts. And to be unmarried is just shy of actual sin. Rabbis wont welcome you into their homes if not married fearing that sexual immorality thinking coming into their home. It's not a matter of being free to choose to remain single like today. It would have been a huge red flag back then. And one standout is plausible, but 13?

Going by your posts this morning, it seems that you are having a rough time reconciling your bi-sexuality and your religious convictions.

If you were Christian, I would advise you to seek out some elders in the church, as you are Jewish, I don't know if you have anything that resembles elders in the church, other than just older Jews.

The 10 commandments and the Sabbath were given ONLY to Jews, but the Goim falsely state that the Ten Commandments are for all mankind

The very words of the ten commandments clearly tells us that the commandments were for the Jewish people ONLY not the Goyim

1. God never brought the goyim or their ancestors out of Egypt! Ex 20:2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery."
2. The Lord has not given the goyim the promised land of Canaan! Ex 20:12 "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be prolonged in the land which the Lord your God gives you"
3. Since the Sabbath is a sign between God and fleshly Israel, there is nothing requiring the goyim to keep it! (Ex. 31:13,17; Ezek. 20:12, 20)
4. If it was intended for all mankind, then why specifically say "strangers within your gates". Obviously the Goyim (strangers) were never required at any point in earth history to keep the Sabbath

The New Testament is God's new covenant with mankind...Jew....Gentile...or non-believer.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Old topic I know, but it came to me the other night. Single Jewish guy, discontent with Judaism starts going around with a dozen other single Jewish malcontents reinventing the faith where after recognizing God, the 2nd most important commandment is love your neighbor as you love yourself.

Given how much emphasis is placed on Jews to marry, an unmarried Jewish man who gets followers is more than slightly suspect. Could it be they were all gay and flocked together to start a new cult where that's ok? Other than the hag Mary Magdalene, it was a total sausage fest.

Paul even had a devotee' madly in love with him, Thecla but rebuffed her affections and advances. That's not normative Jewish behaviour. Especially among the religious types. It's said even today that Jews should marry so their not obsessing on sexual desires and thoughts. And to be unmarried is just shy of actual sin. Rabbis wont welcome you into their homes if not married fearing that sexual immorality thinking coming into their home. It's not a matter of being free to choose to remain single like today. It would have been a huge red flag back then. And one standout is plausible, but 13?

Going by your posts this morning, it seems that you are having a rough time reconciling your bi-sexuality and your religious convictions.

If you were Christian, I would advise you to seek out some elders in the church, as you are Jewish, I don't know if you have anything that resembles elders in the church, other than just older Jews.

The 10 commandments and the Sabbath were given ONLY to Jews, but the Goim falsely state that the Ten Commandments are for all mankind

The very words of the ten commandments clearly tells us that the commandments were for the Jewish people ONLY not the Goyim

1. God never brought the goyim or their ancestors out of Egypt! Ex 20:2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery."
2. The Lord has not given the goyim the promised land of Canaan! Ex 20:12 "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be prolonged in the land which the Lord your God gives you"
3. Since the Sabbath is a sign between God and fleshly Israel, there is nothing requiring the goyim to keep it! (Ex. 31:13,17; Ezek. 20:12, 20)
4. If it was intended for all mankind, then why specifically say "strangers within your gates". Obviously the Goyim (strangers) were never required at any point in earth history to keep the Sabbath

The New Testament is God's new covenant with mankind...Jew....Gentile...or non-believer.

See....there all all of these scared text after the Torah. Get up to speed, Guano.

 

[GreenBean]

Old topic I know, but it came to me the other night. Single Jewish guy, discontent with Judaism starts going around with a dozen other single Jewish malcontents reinventing the faith where after recognizing God, the 2nd most important commandment is love your neighbor as you love yourself.

Given how much emphasis is placed on Jews to marry, an unmarried Jewish man who gets followers is more than slightly suspect. Could it be they were all gay and flocked together to start a new cult where that's ok? Other than the hag Mary Magdalene, it was a total sausage fest.

Paul even had a devotee' madly in love with him, Thecla but rebuffed her affections and advances. That's not normative Jewish behaviour. Especially among the religious types. It's said even today that Jews should marry so their not obsessing on sexual desires and thoughts. And to be unmarried is just shy of actual sin. Rabbis wont welcome you into their homes if not married fearing that sexual immorality thinking coming into their home. It's not a matter of being free to choose to remain single like today. It would have been a huge red flag back then. And one standout is plausible, but 13?

In 1973, Morton Smith published a book on a previously unknown letter of Clement of Alexandria. He stated that, while cataloging documents at the ancient Greek Orthodox monastery of Mar Saba in the summer of 1958, he discovered the text of the letter handwritten into the endpapers of Isaac Vossius' 1646 printed edition of the works of Ignatius of Antioch. It presented a letter of Clement of Alexandria to one Theodore, who he seeks to warn against a Gospel of Mark falsified by the gnostic sect of Carpocratians. Clement concedes that it gives a 'more spiritual' version of Mark and quotes from it.

The letter includes two excerpts from the Secret Gospel. The first is to be inserted, Clement states, between what are verses 34 and 35 of Mark 10:

And they come into Bethany. And a certain woman whose brother had died was there. And, coming, she prostrated herself before Jesus and says to him, 'Son of David, have mercy on me.' But the disciples rebuked her. And Jesus, being angered, went off with her into the garden where the tomb was, and straightway a great cry was heard from the tomb. And going near Jesus rolled away the stone from the door of the tomb. And straightway, going in where the youth was, he stretched forth his hand and raised him, seizing his hand. But the youth, looking upon him, loved him and began to beseech him that he might be with him. And going out of the tomb they came into the house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days Jesus told him what to do and in the evening the youth comes to him, wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the kingdom of God. And thence, arising, he returned to the other side of the Jordan.

... So does this make Yeshua a Faggot ?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Old topic I know, but it came to me the other night. Single Jewish guy, discontent with Judaism starts going around with a dozen other single Jewish malcontents reinventing the faith where after recognizing God, the 2nd most important commandment is love your neighbor as you love yourself.

Given how much emphasis is placed on Jews to marry, an unmarried Jewish man who gets followers is more than slightly suspect. Could it be they were all gay and flocked together to start a new cult where that's ok? Other than the hag Mary Magdalene, it was a total sausage fest.

Paul even had a devotee' madly in love with him, Thecla but rebuffed her affections and advances. That's not normative Jewish behaviour. Especially among the religious types. It's said even today that Jews should marry so their not obsessing on sexual desires and thoughts. And to be unmarried is just shy of actual sin. Rabbis wont welcome you into their homes if not married fearing that sexual immorality thinking coming into their home. It's not a matter of being free to choose to remain single like today. It would have been a huge red flag back then. And one standout is plausible, but 13?

Another great thread from the guy who's here when Oddball and CaGirl aren't

 

[GreenBean]

Jesus only hung around with guys.
He wore a dress.
He only banged a woman once to see if he'd like it. "Once" means he didn't like it.
He rode the gay pride symbol of the day, the donkey. As only women rode donkeys.
He looks effeminate in nearly all the painting of him.
He looks pretty buff too.
I dunno, but if it quacks like a duck...

What's the matter, you can't handle the truth? Jesus never had a gf.

BS ... Mary Magdaline was his main squeeze.

 

[guno]

 

[Political Junky]

It is thought by some Christian scholars that Paul's "thorn in the flesh" was homosexuality. I have never considered Jesus as a possibility. His disciples were married, i believe. However, Jesus never mentions homosexuality. Paul almost obsesses over the topic mentioning it several times, directly and indirectly.

I don't think the disciples were married. They gave up everything to follow Jesus. Paul especially didn't like women.

 

[Avatar4321]

Considering He kept all the commandments and the first one was to cleave to your wife and multiply and replenish the earth, how do you conclude he wasn't married?

 

[Avatar4321]

It is thought by some Christian scholars that Paul's "thorn in the flesh" was homosexuality. I have never considered Jesus as a possibility. His disciples were married, i believe. However, Jesus never mentions homosexuality. Paul almost obsesses over the topic mentioning it several times, directly and indirectly.

I don't think the disciples were married. They gave up everything to follow Jesus. Paul especially didn't like women.

how did Peter have a mother in law then?

 

[saveliberty]

Delta trying justify his gayness again? AT LEAST HE IS SEASONAL.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Jesus only hung around with guys.
He wore a dress.
He only banged a woman once to see if he'd like it. "Once" means he didn't like it.
He rode the gay pride symbol of the day, the donkey. As only women rode donkeys.
He looks effeminate in nearly all the painting of him.
He looks pretty buff too.
I dunno, but if it quacks like a duck...

What's the matter, you can't handle the truth? Jesus never had a gf.

Those who follow satan and don't understand Jesus come up with all sorts of lies. Good luck.