We Are NOW IN a US Civil War

[Dale Smith]

Abolish the electoral college and support a national popular vote. Solves everything.

There is a process to do just that. Have at it, or pound zee sand.

Yes and I have alluded to it multiple times in this thread. Dummy.

Take away voter fraud and Trump easily pounded the shit out of that bitch Hitlery. The electronic ballots have got to go.It was only because of the white hats and the overwhelming turnout for Trump that were not discouraged by the Mockingbird lamestream media that kept the globalist, child trafficking globalist from getting into office.

I agree with the sentiments of some of the posters here.....the chasm that separates us on the communist side and the organic constitution side is too deep and too wide for that gap to ever be bridged. Divide the country in half and let the commies have their portion and let freedom loving people that are not beholding to the "state" be free. We just will never be able to get along. I can't relate to them and they can't relate to me. I kjow one thing for sure...I will never acquiesce to their communist agenda....not ever.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Abolish the electoral college and support a national popular vote. Solves everything.

There is a process to do just that. Have at it, or pound zee sand.

Yes and I have alluded to it multiple times in this thread. Dummy.

Take away voter fraud and Trump easily pounded the shit out of that bitch Hitlery. The electronic ballots have got to go.It was only because of the white hats and the overwhelming turnout for Trump that were not discouraged by the Mockingbird lamestream media that kept the globalist, child trafficking globalist from getting into office.

I agree with the sentiments of some of the posters here.....the chasm that separates us on the communist side and the organic constitution side is too deep and too wide for that gap to ever be bridged. Divide the country in half and let the commies have their portion and let freedom loving people that are not beholding to the "state" be free. We just will never be able to get along. I can't relate to them and they can't relate to me. I kjow one thing for sure...I will never acquiesce to their communist agenda....not ever.

Good grief Dale. Put the bong down and get some sleep.

 

[tinydancer]

Jim just wake up every day getting cocked locked and ready to rock. I find myself at peace now. It's where we are heading. Tis good.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Divide the country in half and let the commies have their portion

No. Give them nothing, and if necessary, take everything from them.

 

[yiostheoy]

The shooting has not started yet, but when the country splits into two camps of opinion and neither side respects the government under the control of their rivals, we have in essence entered into a civil cold war.

The likelihood of this emerging into a shooting war is fairly good.

The Civil War is Here

The left has rejected the outcome of the last two presidential elections won by Republicans. It has rejected the judicial authority of the Supreme Court when it decisions don’t accord with its agenda. It rejects the legislative authority of Congress when it is not dominated by the left.

It rejected the Constitution so long ago that it hardly bears mentioning.

It was for total unilateral executive authority under Obama. And now it’s for states unilaterally deciding what laws they will follow. (As long as that involves defying immigration laws under Trump, not following them under Obama.) It was for the sacrosanct authority of the Senate when it held the majority. Then it decried the Senate as an outmoded institution when the Republicans took it over.

It was for Obama defying the orders of Federal judges, no matter how well grounded in existing law, and it is for Federal judges overriding any order by Trump on any grounds whatsoever. It was for Obama penalizing whistleblowers, but now undermining the government from within has become “patriotic”.

There is no form of legal authority that the left accepts as a permanent institution. It only utilizes forms of authority selectively when it controls them. But when government officials refuse the orders of the duly elected government because their allegiance is to an ideology whose agenda is in conflict with the President and Congress, that’s not activism, protest, politics or civil disobedience; it’s treason.

After losing Congress, the left consolidated its authority in the White House. After losing the White House, the left shifted its center of authority to Federal judges and unelected government officials. Each defeat led the radicalized Democrats to relocate from more democratic to less democratic institutions.

This isn’t just hypocrisy. That’s a common political sin. Hypocrites maneuver within the system. The left has no allegiance to the system. It accepts no laws other than those dictated by its ideology.

Democrats have become radicalized by the left. This doesn’t just mean that they pursue all sorts of bad policies. It means that their first and foremost allegiance is to an ideology, not the Constitution, not our country or our system of government. All of those are only to be used as vehicles for their ideology.​

So far this is the score:

Pelosi / Schumer 1
Trump / Ryan -0-

 

[tinydancer]

Thank you for noticing.

Well, the MSM isnt discussing it, nor the conservative alternative sites, other than Front page.

What is going on right now is an attempted slow motion coup against Trump and the American Middle Class.

The only thing that shocks me about what are witnessing is that the sons of bitches actually think we don't know what's going on. They really think they are "sneaking up on us".

 

[JimBowie1958]

Divide the country in half and let the commies have their portion

No. Give them nothing, and if necessary, take everything from them.

IF we could avoid a violent civil war by letting California and New York and all states NE of it go their separate way, I would say, "Hell yeah!'


But you know the Gawd Damned Bastards wouldnt keep their word and would be fomenting trouble until they finally got crushed.

 

[yiostheoy]

Divide the country in half and let the commies have their portion

No. Give them nothing, and if necessary, take everything from them.

IF we could avoid a violent civil war by letting California and New York and all states NE of it go their separate way, I would say, "Hell yeah!'


But you know the Gawd Damned Bastards wouldnt keep their word and would be fomenting trouble until they finally got crushed.

U.S. Hyrum Grant in his memoirs made it clear that no state has the constitutional right to leave the Union.

 

[tinydancer]

The shooting has not started yet, but when the country splits into two camps of opinion and neither side respects the government under the control of their rivals, we have in essence entered into a civil cold war.

The likelihood of this emerging into a shooting war is fairly good.

The Civil War is Here

The left has rejected the outcome of the last two presidential elections won by Republicans. It has rejected the judicial authority of the Supreme Court when it decisions don’t accord with its agenda. It rejects the legislative authority of Congress when it is not dominated by the left.

It rejected the Constitution so long ago that it hardly bears mentioning.

It was for total unilateral executive authority under Obama. And now it’s for states unilaterally deciding what laws they will follow. (As long as that involves defying immigration laws under Trump, not following them under Obama.) It was for the sacrosanct authority of the Senate when it held the majority. Then it decried the Senate as an outmoded institution when the Republicans took it over.

It was for Obama defying the orders of Federal judges, no matter how well grounded in existing law, and it is for Federal judges overriding any order by Trump on any grounds whatsoever. It was for Obama penalizing whistleblowers, but now undermining the government from within has become “patriotic”.

There is no form of legal authority that the left accepts as a permanent institution. It only utilizes forms of authority selectively when it controls them. But when government officials refuse the orders of the duly elected government because their allegiance is to an ideology whose agenda is in conflict with the President and Congress, that’s not activism, protest, politics or civil disobedience; it’s treason.

After losing Congress, the left consolidated its authority in the White House. After losing the White House, the left shifted its center of authority to Federal judges and unelected government officials. Each defeat led the radicalized Democrats to relocate from more democratic to less democratic institutions.

This isn’t just hypocrisy. That’s a common political sin. Hypocrites maneuver within the system. The left has no allegiance to the system. It accepts no laws other than those dictated by its ideology.

Democrats have become radicalized by the left. This doesn’t just mean that they pursue all sorts of bad policies. It means that their first and foremost allegiance is to an ideology, not the Constitution, not our country or our system of government. All of those are only to be used as vehicles for their ideology.​

So far this is the score:

Pelosi / Schumer 1
Trump / Ryan -0-

What part of Sessions procalamation did you miss today? They are starting to strip sanctuary cities of funds.

Trump/Sessions 1000000000000. Pelosie/Schumer/Clinton/Obama/ zippppppppppppppppppppppppppoooooo. Dreamers. Start singing welcome to my nightmare.

 

[yiostheoy]

The shooting has not started yet, but when the country splits into two camps of opinion and neither side respects the government under the control of their rivals, we have in essence entered into a civil cold war.

The likelihood of this emerging into a shooting war is fairly good.

The Civil War is Here

The left has rejected the outcome of the last two presidential elections won by Republicans. It has rejected the judicial authority of the Supreme Court when it decisions don’t accord with its agenda. It rejects the legislative authority of Congress when it is not dominated by the left.

It rejected the Constitution so long ago that it hardly bears mentioning.

It was for total unilateral executive authority under Obama. And now it’s for states unilaterally deciding what laws they will follow. (As long as that involves defying immigration laws under Trump, not following them under Obama.) It was for the sacrosanct authority of the Senate when it held the majority. Then it decried the Senate as an outmoded institution when the Republicans took it over.

It was for Obama defying the orders of Federal judges, no matter how well grounded in existing law, and it is for Federal judges overriding any order by Trump on any grounds whatsoever. It was for Obama penalizing whistleblowers, but now undermining the government from within has become “patriotic”.

There is no form of legal authority that the left accepts as a permanent institution. It only utilizes forms of authority selectively when it controls them. But when government officials refuse the orders of the duly elected government because their allegiance is to an ideology whose agenda is in conflict with the President and Congress, that’s not activism, protest, politics or civil disobedience; it’s treason.

After losing Congress, the left consolidated its authority in the White House. After losing the White House, the left shifted its center of authority to Federal judges and unelected government officials. Each defeat led the radicalized Democrats to relocate from more democratic to less democratic institutions.

This isn’t just hypocrisy. That’s a common political sin. Hypocrites maneuver within the system. The left has no allegiance to the system. It accepts no laws other than those dictated by its ideology.

Democrats have become radicalized by the left. This doesn’t just mean that they pursue all sorts of bad policies. It means that their first and foremost allegiance is to an ideology, not the Constitution, not our country or our system of government. All of those are only to be used as vehicles for their ideology.​

So far this is the score:

Pelosi / Schumer 1
Trump / Ryan -0-

What part of Sessions procalamation did you miss today? They are starting to strip sanctuary cities of funds.

Trump/Sessions 1000000000000. Pelosie/Schumer/Clinton/Obama/ zippppppppppppppppppppppppppoooooo. Dreamers. Start singing welcome to my nightmare.

I know.

I don't believe in sanctuary cities.

 

[JimBowie1958]

U.S. Hyrum Grant in his memoirs made it clear that no state has the constitutional right to leave the Union.

And Grant has shit to say about it, really.

IF Congress passed a law allowing a state to leave the Union, I dont see anything about the Constitution that would prevent it.

IF it required a Constitutional Amendment that in theory could certainly allow for a state to leave.

 

[Dale Smith]

The shooting has not started yet, but when the country splits into two camps of opinion and neither side respects the government under the control of their rivals, we have in essence entered into a civil cold war.

The likelihood of this emerging into a shooting war is fairly good.

The Civil War is Here

The left has rejected the outcome of the last two presidential elections won by Republicans. It has rejected the judicial authority of the Supreme Court when it decisions don’t accord with its agenda. It rejects the legislative authority of Congress when it is not dominated by the left.

It rejected the Constitution so long ago that it hardly bears mentioning.

It was for total unilateral executive authority under Obama. And now it’s for states unilaterally deciding what laws they will follow. (As long as that involves defying immigration laws under Trump, not following them under Obama.) It was for the sacrosanct authority of the Senate when it held the majority. Then it decried the Senate as an outmoded institution when the Republicans took it over.

It was for Obama defying the orders of Federal judges, no matter how well grounded in existing law, and it is for Federal judges overriding any order by Trump on any grounds whatsoever. It was for Obama penalizing whistleblowers, but now undermining the government from within has become “patriotic”.

There is no form of legal authority that the left accepts as a permanent institution. It only utilizes forms of authority selectively when it controls them. But when government officials refuse the orders of the duly elected government because their allegiance is to an ideology whose agenda is in conflict with the President and Congress, that’s not activism, protest, politics or civil disobedience; it’s treason.

After losing Congress, the left consolidated its authority in the White House. After losing the White House, the left shifted its center of authority to Federal judges and unelected government officials. Each defeat led the radicalized Democrats to relocate from more democratic to less democratic institutions.

This isn’t just hypocrisy. That’s a common political sin. Hypocrites maneuver within the system. The left has no allegiance to the system. It accepts no laws other than those dictated by its ideology.

Democrats have become radicalized by the left. This doesn’t just mean that they pursue all sorts of bad policies. It means that their first and foremost allegiance is to an ideology, not the Constitution, not our country or our system of government. All of those are only to be used as vehicles for their ideology.​

So far this is the score:

Pelosi / Schumer 1
Trump / Ryan -0-

Abolish the electoral college and support a national popular vote. Solves everything.

There is a process to do just that. Have at it, or pound zee sand.

Yes and I have alluded to it multiple times in this thread. Dummy.

Take away voter fraud and Trump easily pounded the shit out of that bitch Hitlery. The electronic ballots have got to go.It was only because of the white hats and the overwhelming turnout for Trump that were not discouraged by the Mockingbird lamestream media that kept the globalist, child trafficking globalist from getting into office.

I agree with the sentiments of some of the posters here.....the chasm that separates us on the communist side and the organic constitution side is too deep and too wide for that gap to ever be bridged. Divide the country in half and let the commies have their portion and let freedom loving people that are not beholding to the "state" be free. We just will never be able to get along. I can't relate to them and they can't relate to me. I kjow one thing for sure...I will never acquiesce to their communist agenda....not ever.

Good grief Dale. Put the bong down and get some sleep.

Dude, you are so asleep that that they could be using a piledriver and tearing up the street right by your house and you would continue to slumber........sad, dude.....VERY sad.

 

[ScienceRocks]

And I will fight for the side that supports infrastructure, science, education and the continuation of us being a first world nation. Anything less is bull shit and taliban like.

 

[TheOldSchool]

The shooting has not started yet, but when the country splits into two camps of opinion and neither side respects the government under the control of their rivals, we have in essence entered into a civil cold war.

The likelihood of this emerging into a shooting war is fairly good.

The Civil War is Here

The left has rejected the outcome of the last two presidential elections won by Republicans. It has rejected the judicial authority of the Supreme Court when it decisions don’t accord with its agenda. It rejects the legislative authority of Congress when it is not dominated by the left.

It rejected the Constitution so long ago that it hardly bears mentioning.

It was for total unilateral executive authority under Obama. And now it’s for states unilaterally deciding what laws they will follow. (As long as that involves defying immigration laws under Trump, not following them under Obama.) It was for the sacrosanct authority of the Senate when it held the majority. Then it decried the Senate as an outmoded institution when the Republicans took it over.

It was for Obama defying the orders of Federal judges, no matter how well grounded in existing law, and it is for Federal judges overriding any order by Trump on any grounds whatsoever. It was for Obama penalizing whistleblowers, but now undermining the government from within has become “patriotic”.

There is no form of legal authority that the left accepts as a permanent institution. It only utilizes forms of authority selectively when it controls them. But when government officials refuse the orders of the duly elected government because their allegiance is to an ideology whose agenda is in conflict with the President and Congress, that’s not activism, protest, politics or civil disobedience; it’s treason.

After losing Congress, the left consolidated its authority in the White House. After losing the White House, the left shifted its center of authority to Federal judges and unelected government officials. Each defeat led the radicalized Democrats to relocate from more democratic to less democratic institutions.

This isn’t just hypocrisy. That’s a common political sin. Hypocrites maneuver within the system. The left has no allegiance to the system. It accepts no laws other than those dictated by its ideology.

Democrats have become radicalized by the left. This doesn’t just mean that they pursue all sorts of bad policies. It means that their first and foremost allegiance is to an ideology, not the Constitution, not our country or our system of government. All of those are only to be used as vehicles for their ideology.​

So far this is the score:

Pelosi / Schumer 1
Trump / Ryan -0-

Abolish the electoral college and support a national popular vote. Solves everything.

There is a process to do just that. Have at it, or pound zee sand.

Yes and I have alluded to it multiple times in this thread. Dummy.

Take away voter fraud and Trump easily pounded the shit out of that bitch Hitlery. The electronic ballots have got to go.It was only because of the white hats and the overwhelming turnout for Trump that were not discouraged by the Mockingbird lamestream media that kept the globalist, child trafficking globalist from getting into office.

I agree with the sentiments of some of the posters here.....the chasm that separates us on the communist side and the organic constitution side is too deep and too wide for that gap to ever be bridged. Divide the country in half and let the commies have their portion and let freedom loving people that are not beholding to the "state" be free. We just will never be able to get along. I can't relate to them and they can't relate to me. I kjow one thing for sure...I will never acquiesce to their communist agenda....not ever.

Good grief Dale. Put the bong down and get some sleep.

Dude, you are so asleep that that they could be using a piledriver and tearing up the street right by your house and you would continue to slumber........sad, dude.....VERY sad.

No Dale. That would wake anyone up. Find your safe place and simmer down.

 

[Dale Smith]

The shooting has not started yet, but when the country splits into two camps of opinion and neither side respects the government under the control of their rivals, we have in essence entered into a civil cold war.

The likelihood of this emerging into a shooting war is fairly good.

The Civil War is Here

The left has rejected the outcome of the last two presidential elections won by Republicans. It has rejected the judicial authority of the Supreme Court when it decisions don’t accord with its agenda. It rejects the legislative authority of Congress when it is not dominated by the left.

It rejected the Constitution so long ago that it hardly bears mentioning.

It was for total unilateral executive authority under Obama. And now it’s for states unilaterally deciding what laws they will follow. (As long as that involves defying immigration laws under Trump, not following them under Obama.) It was for the sacrosanct authority of the Senate when it held the majority. Then it decried the Senate as an outmoded institution when the Republicans took it over.

It was for Obama defying the orders of Federal judges, no matter how well grounded in existing law, and it is for Federal judges overriding any order by Trump on any grounds whatsoever. It was for Obama penalizing whistleblowers, but now undermining the government from within has become “patriotic”.

There is no form of legal authority that the left accepts as a permanent institution. It only utilizes forms of authority selectively when it controls them. But when government officials refuse the orders of the duly elected government because their allegiance is to an ideology whose agenda is in conflict with the President and Congress, that’s not activism, protest, politics or civil disobedience; it’s treason.

After losing Congress, the left consolidated its authority in the White House. After losing the White House, the left shifted its center of authority to Federal judges and unelected government officials. Each defeat led the radicalized Democrats to relocate from more democratic to less democratic institutions.

This isn’t just hypocrisy. That’s a common political sin. Hypocrites maneuver within the system. The left has no allegiance to the system. It accepts no laws other than those dictated by its ideology.

Democrats have become radicalized by the left. This doesn’t just mean that they pursue all sorts of bad policies. It means that their first and foremost allegiance is to an ideology, not the Constitution, not our country or our system of government. All of those are only to be used as vehicles for their ideology.​

So far this is the score:

Pelosi / Schumer 1
Trump / Ryan -0-

Trump and Ryan are anything but"allies"........I say let Barrypuppetcare collapse under it's own weight because the leftards own it "lock, stock and barrel".....I want to see them come to Trump with "hat in hand" begging for a fix to the very boondoggle that they created....fuck 'em.

 

[JimBowie1958]

And I will fight for the side that supports infrastructure, science, education and the continuation of us being a first world nation. Anything less is bull shit and taliban like.

Yeah, actually defending the Constitution is so Taliban like, doofus.

 

[tinydancer]

Divide the country in half and let the commies have their portion

No. Give them nothing, and if necessary, take everything from them.

IF we could avoid a violent civil war by letting California and New York and all states NE of it go their separate way, I would say, "Hell yeah!'


But you know the Gawd Damned Bastards wouldnt keep their word and would be fomenting trouble until they finally got crushed.

Jim I want to come south again and under Trump we are looking at a number of properties. Just bought up a beautiful newly reno'd house (the man that did it is a doppleganger for Richard Attenborough wealthy dude that just likes taking old homes and turning them into gems) 0nly 66 grand. Mortgage 299 a month. And its almost 2 acres. This place is priceless. So now that has my "anchored home" up here.

But despite family in and freinds in Kentucky (hey I'm a Boone) Tennessee and Florida of course and Louisiana but for some reason New Mexico calls me.

But you know what? I'm checking into properties now and looking at how county's voted. Can you believe that? It makes sense though. My husband thought I was nuts at first till this last election cycle.

Now he thinks I'm a genius. No way in hell am I going to buy and live in a blue county. But one thing I hate to remind you of, we slag California and NY all the time but if you look at county to county most of both states are R's. They just don't have the numbers..

I lived north of NY state a lot of my life and most folks are rural. Beautiful vineyards. Awesome forests just a gorgeous state but urban rules. Sadly urban rules.

 

[MisterBeale]

Here's respect for the constitution. Judge Merrick Garland was nominated by a President of the United States, as constitutionally mandated. Yet the majority leader of the Senate, constitionally mandated to advise and consent, said that this particular President had no place putting up a qualified nominee for the bench.

Shutting down the government in a fit of political pique during manufactured economic crisis after manufactured economic crisis again and again. That was some savvy way to govern!

Constitutionally or extra-constitutionally, the GOP has shown no real ability to govern, only oppose. Put on your big boy trousers and do what you were elected to do.

You might have a point if the administration hadn't had Scalia assassinated.

http://truepundit.com/podesta-email...preme-court-justice-scalias-suspicious-death/

• No autopsy
• No medical examiner on site to decipher cause of death
• No U.S. Marshal protection detail accompanying Scalia
• No functioning CCTV cameras on day of death
• Scalia found clothed on bed with pillow over face
• Scalia’s body mysteriously cremated before it could be examined
• Resort owner large Obama contributor
• And the list goes on and on

 

[DrainBamage]

The likelihood of this emerging into a shooting war is fairly good.

You are a moron and a drama queen who greatly overestimates how much your average American gives a shit.

 

[miketx]

Abolish the electoral college and support a national popular vote. Solves everything.

No. Solves nothing but the removal of free elections.