"We need to redistribute wealth among Americans" WTF...why does this always sound so retarded to me?

[jc456]

explain this. what do you mean exactly? how did tax cutting affect the lower earning 45% of the population that doesn't pay income tax?

Because in order to pass the tax cuts for the rich, you cut taxes for everyone else. So you cut taxes for those 45% to zero, then complain that 45% "don't pay taxes". So you caused the very thing you're complaining about. Hence, masturbation. The tax burden was more equitable before 1981. Then you cut taxes, then the burden wasn't equitable. So what caused the burden to not be equitable? Cutting taxes.

Are you saying we should give them more money? well some do get that, tax credits. so I'm still unsure your position here.

Instead of that, just raise wages. Wages haven't grown for most people the last 40 years. Particularly the last 16.

Because in order to pass the tax cuts for the rich, you cut taxes for everyone else. So you cut taxes for those 45% to zero, then complain that 45% "don't pay taxes". So you caused the very thing you're complaining about. Hence, masturbation. The tax burden was more equitable before 1981. Then you cut taxes, then the burden wasn't equitable. So what caused the burden to not be equitable? Cutting taxes.

First off, I never cut taxes. Second, so if a group pays zero and someone wishes to cut the ones paying, why does that bother you? I've never complained that there are lower earners paying zero in income tax. My problem has and will always be why cutting others taxes sends the libturds off the charts?

Instead of that, just raise wages. Wages haven't grown for most people the last 40 years. Particularly the last 16

I agree, so let the pres set it up to do that. you need a GDP over 3% to do that. And that comes from the budget office. Let trump get his agenda through instead of fighting job growth and wage increases. I don't get libturds. you all are like fk the middle class, trump is a nut. huh?

Trump supporters are like, fk DC, get the wages up and people back to work. and the libs go ballistic. I don't know, the only thing I do know on this topic is that the libs are fking nuts.

 

[rightwinger]

You have been brainwashed.
Productive means producing something such as a washing machine, TV, car, beer, and so on. It is the workers who produce. Those spivs who produce nothing but paper wealth in trading other people's money in stocks and shares, playing international currency markets, offering so-called financial services in banking speculation, are leeches who produce nothing but a paper value because the capitalist system rewards these greedy operators. They bring shame upon America.

Only the little people pay taxes in modern America. The wealthy have their money in British overseas territories known as tax havens.

"Productive means producing something such as a washing machine, TV, car, beer, and so on. It is the workers who produce."
NEGATIVE....see, you've been brainwashed. You honestly believe that one must "build" something in order to be "productive". That's some funny shit...haha
pro·duc·tive
prəˈdəktiv/
adjective

1. producing or able to produce large amounts of goods, crops, or other commodities.
   "the most productive employees"
   synonyms: fertile, fruitful, rich, fecund
   "productive land"
   • relating to or engaged in the production of goods, crops, or other commodities.
     "the country's productive capacity"
   • achieving or producing a significant amount or result.
     "a long and productive career"
     synonyms: prolific, inventive, creative;
     
     
     "Only the little people pay taxes in modern America. The wealthy have their money in British overseas territories known as tax havens."
     
     NEGATIVE. Try again.
     "In 2014, people with adjusted gross income, or AGI, above $250,000 paid just over half (51.6%) of all individual income taxes, though they accounted for only 2.7% of all returns filed, according to our analysis of preliminary IRS data. Their average tax rate (total taxes paid divided by cumulative AGI) was 25.7%. By contrast, people with incomes of less than $50,000 accounted for 62.3% of all individual returns filed, but they paid just 5.7% of total taxes. Their average tax rate was 4.3%." -
     High-income Americans pay most income taxes, but enough to be ‘fair’?
     
     "An estimated 45.3 percent of American households — roughly 77.5 million — will pay no federal individual income tax, according to data for the 2015 tax year from the Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan Washington-based research group. (Note that this does not necessarily mean they won’t owe their states income tax.)
     
     Roughly half pay no federal income tax because they have no taxable income, and the other roughly half get enough tax breaks to erase their tax liability, explains Roberton Williams, a senior fellow at the Tax Policy Center." -
     http://nypost.com/2016/02/24/45-percent-of-americans-pay-no-federal-income-tax/

How much in tax do the rich actually pay in Personal Income tax, and how did the rich "earn" their money?

you should look it up, the internet provides a nice place for reference material for you to get an answer.

Oh, and brokeloser, posted it already.

How much does our Capitalist in Chief, pay in personal income taxes?

$38 million in 2005 which is more than your entire bloodline will EARN in their lifetimes.
He pays more per year in property tax and sales tax than you'll earn over your life.
Next!

We had to go back 12 years to find a time when Trump actually paid taxes

 

[BrokeLoser]

"Productive means producing something such as a washing machine, TV, car, beer, and so on. It is the workers who produce."
NEGATIVE....see, you've been brainwashed. You honestly believe that one must "build" something in order to be "productive". That's some funny shit...haha
pro·duc·tive
prəˈdəktiv/
adjective

1. producing or able to produce large amounts of goods, crops, or other commodities.
   "the most productive employees"
   synonyms: fertile, fruitful, rich, fecund
   "productive land"
   • relating to or engaged in the production of goods, crops, or other commodities.
     "the country's productive capacity"
   • achieving or producing a significant amount or result.
     "a long and productive career"
     synonyms: prolific, inventive, creative;
     
     
     "Only the little people pay taxes in modern America. The wealthy have their money in British overseas territories known as tax havens."
     
     NEGATIVE. Try again.
     "In 2014, people with adjusted gross income, or AGI, above $250,000 paid just over half (51.6%) of all individual income taxes, though they accounted for only 2.7% of all returns filed, according to our analysis of preliminary IRS data. Their average tax rate (total taxes paid divided by cumulative AGI) was 25.7%. By contrast, people with incomes of less than $50,000 accounted for 62.3% of all individual returns filed, but they paid just 5.7% of total taxes. Their average tax rate was 4.3%." -
     High-income Americans pay most income taxes, but enough to be ‘fair’?
     
     "An estimated 45.3 percent of American households — roughly 77.5 million — will pay no federal individual income tax, according to data for the 2015 tax year from the Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan Washington-based research group. (Note that this does not necessarily mean they won’t owe their states income tax.)
     
     Roughly half pay no federal income tax because they have no taxable income, and the other roughly half get enough tax breaks to erase their tax liability, explains Roberton Williams, a senior fellow at the Tax Policy Center." -
     http://nypost.com/2016/02/24/45-percent-of-americans-pay-no-federal-income-tax/

How much in tax do the rich actually pay in Personal Income tax, and how did the rich "earn" their money?

you should look it up, the internet provides a nice place for reference material for you to get an answer.

Oh, and brokeloser, posted it already.

How much does our Capitalist in Chief, pay in personal income taxes?

$38 million in 2005 which is more than your entire bloodline will EARN in their lifetimes.
He pays more per year in property tax and sales tax than you'll earn over your life.
Next!

We had to go back 12 years to find a time when Trump actually paid taxes

Bold statement...does that mean you have his return from last year?

 

[The Derp]

First off, I never cut taxes.

But you adhere to tax-cutting, supply-side, trickle-down dogma, do you not? So you're going to champion that dogma while simultaneously abdicating responsibility for it? Wow, dude. That's pretty shitty.

Second, so if a group pays zero and someone wishes to cut the ones paying, why does that bother you? I've never complained that there are lower earners paying zero in income tax. My problem has and will always be why cutting others taxes sends the libturds off the charts?

It bothers me because tax cuts are sold as a way to increase revenues when they clearly do not. And the less the wealthy pay in taxes means the more everyone else pays for things like health care and education. It means the more everyone else pays in sales and excise taxes. And for what? Rich people don't trickle-down, and they never have. So if your entire guiding economic principle relies on the faith they will trickle down, and they don't, what does that mean for your belief system?

I agree, so let the pres set it up to do that. you need a GDP over 3% to do that.

No you don't. And GDP growth of 3% including mortgage equity withdrawals? Because Bush's economy was floated by debt and only debt, not growth. And since Trump wants to do exactly what Bush did, why would it suddenly start working when it didn't before?

And that comes from the budget office.

No, it doesn't. It doesn't say anywhere that in order to increase wages, growth has to be above 3%. That's a load of horseshit.

Let trump get his agenda through instead of fighting job growth and wage increases. I don't get libturds. you all are like fk the middle class, trump is a nut. huh?

Trump's agenda is to enrich himself. He doesn't give a shit about anyone else.

 

[BrokeLoser]

"Productive means producing something such as a washing machine, TV, car, beer, and so on. It is the workers who produce."
NEGATIVE....see, you've been brainwashed. You honestly believe that one must "build" something in order to be "productive". That's some funny shit...haha
pro·duc·tive
prəˈdəktiv/
adjective

1. producing or able to produce large amounts of goods, crops, or other commodities.
   "the most productive employees"
   synonyms: fertile, fruitful, rich, fecund
   "productive land"
   • relating to or engaged in the production of goods, crops, or other commodities.
     "the country's productive capacity"
   • achieving or producing a significant amount or result.
     "a long and productive career"
     synonyms: prolific, inventive, creative;
     
     
     "Only the little people pay taxes in modern America. The wealthy have their money in British overseas territories known as tax havens."
     
     NEGATIVE. Try again.
     "In 2014, people with adjusted gross income, or AGI, above $250,000 paid just over half (51.6%) of all individual income taxes, though they accounted for only 2.7% of all returns filed, according to our analysis of preliminary IRS data. Their average tax rate (total taxes paid divided by cumulative AGI) was 25.7%. By contrast, people with incomes of less than $50,000 accounted for 62.3% of all individual returns filed, but they paid just 5.7% of total taxes. Their average tax rate was 4.3%." -
     High-income Americans pay most income taxes, but enough to be ‘fair’?
     
     "An estimated 45.3 percent of American households — roughly 77.5 million — will pay no federal individual income tax, according to data for the 2015 tax year from the Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan Washington-based research group. (Note that this does not necessarily mean they won’t owe their states income tax.)
     
     Roughly half pay no federal income tax because they have no taxable income, and the other roughly half get enough tax breaks to erase their tax liability, explains Roberton Williams, a senior fellow at the Tax Policy Center." -
     http://nypost.com/2016/02/24/45-percent-of-americans-pay-no-federal-income-tax/

How much in tax do the rich actually pay in Personal Income tax, and how did the rich "earn" their money?

you should look it up, the internet provides a nice place for reference material for you to get an answer.

Oh, and brokeloser, posted it already.

How much does our Capitalist in Chief, pay in personal income taxes?

$38 million in 2005 which is more than your entire bloodline will EARN in their lifetimes.
He pays more per year in property tax and sales tax than you'll earn over your life.
Next!

Link or it is just right wing, political propaganda and rhetoric, that aids and abets, misuse of public policies.

Danny, you might be the looniest loon on this site...I'll play along anyway.
Donald Trump’s Tax Documents From 2005

 

[hadit]

Word games again. Nevertheless if the word "productive" means anything at all brokeloser was correct in using it to describe people who create value.
An economic system which Values all citizens" misvalues the majority and all are poor. Economic systems dont value. They punish when you break the laws of economics or reward when you work with them.
I prefer an economic system with allows all citizens the opportunity to produce value and enjoy the fruits of their labor.

You have been brainwashed.
Productive means producing something such as a washing machine, TV, car, beer, and so on. It is the workers who produce. Those spivs who produce nothing but paper wealth in trading other people's money in stocks and shares, playing international currency markets, offering so-called financial services in banking speculation, are leeches who produce nothing but a paper value because the capitalist system rewards these greedy operators. They bring shame upon America.

Thirty per cent goes to taxes..Plus 71/2% to social security. If they drive they pay outrageous gasoline taxes. There is a tax on their phone bill to give out free phones to non workers and a tax on their water bill and a tax on their cable bill to give free cable to inner cities. They have a little left...but to spend it face a sales tax of up to ten per cent on everything else. If they want a raise the Mexican who just floated over the border will do the job for half price.

Only the little people pay taxes in modern America. The wealthy have their money in British overseas territories known as tax havens.

"Productive means producing something such as a washing machine, TV, car, beer, and so on. It is the workers who produce."
NEGATIVE....see, you've been brainwashed. You honestly believe that one must "build" something in order to be "productive". That's some funny shit...haha
pro·duc·tive
prəˈdəktiv/
adjective

1. producing or able to produce large amounts of goods, crops, or other commodities.
   "the most productive employees"
   synonyms: fertile, fruitful, rich, fecund
   "productive land"
   • relating to or engaged in the production of goods, crops, or other commodities.
     "the country's productive capacity"
   • achieving or producing a significant amount or result.
     "a long and productive career"
     synonyms: prolific, inventive, creative;
     
     
     "Only the little people pay taxes in modern America. The wealthy have their money in British overseas territories known as tax havens."
     
     NEGATIVE. Try again.
     "In 2014, people with adjusted gross income, or AGI, above $250,000 paid just over half (51.6%) of all individual income taxes, though they accounted for only 2.7% of all returns filed, according to our analysis of preliminary IRS data. Their average tax rate (total taxes paid divided by cumulative AGI) was 25.7%. By contrast, people with incomes of less than $50,000 accounted for 62.3% of all individual returns filed, but they paid just 5.7% of total taxes. Their average tax rate was 4.3%." -
     High-income Americans pay most income taxes, but enough to be ‘fair’?
     
     "An estimated 45.3 percent of American households — roughly 77.5 million — will pay no federal individual income tax, according to data for the 2015 tax year from the Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan Washington-based research group. (Note that this does not necessarily mean they won’t owe their states income tax.)
     
     Roughly half pay no federal income tax because they have no taxable income, and the other roughly half get enough tax breaks to erase their tax liability, explains Roberton Williams, a senior fellow at the Tax Policy Center." -
     http://nypost.com/2016/02/24/45-percent-of-americans-pay-no-federal-income-tax/

How much in tax do the rich actually pay in Personal Income tax, and how did the rich "earn" their money?

Plenty, and none of your business. Only the left doesn't get it. It's why they can't be trusted with the reins of power.


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They've been trusted for decades to clean up the mess of republicans. Fix all the economic blunders like great depression and recession. Fix all of the regressive laws that strip civil rights.. hell after their term is up, repubs are begging for a lib to come in and save their reputation. Why do you think the bushes like the Obamas so much. Obama saved his name and our asses.

Wow, you sound like you actually believe that.


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[rightwinger]

How much in tax do the rich actually pay in Personal Income tax, and how did the rich "earn" their money?

you should look it up, the internet provides a nice place for reference material for you to get an answer.

Oh, and brokeloser, posted it already.

How much does our Capitalist in Chief, pay in personal income taxes?

$38 million in 2005 which is more than your entire bloodline will EARN in their lifetimes.
He pays more per year in property tax and sales tax than you'll earn over your life.
Next!

We had to go back 12 years to find a time when Trump actually paid taxes

Bold statement...does that mean you have his return from last year?

Trump admitted he paid no taxes....said it "Makes him smart"

 

[sealybobo]

I always find this narrative fascinating....The top 1% of wage earners already pay 45% of all income tax paid and 45% of American's pay no income tax at all.
That said, how is the notion that our most productive positive contributors owe more manifested?
Why is it never said that we have too many bottom feeders stealing from the middle class and how does that not make more sense to sane rational folks? Take the $100 billion we spend on illegal beaners every year...what if we diverted that cash alone and funneled it through the hands of the middle class and REAL Americans?

Tax rates on the very rich are so low that billionaire Warren Buffett says he pays a lower tax rate than his secretary. That has not always been the case.

The top marginal tax rate has dropped considerably since the late 1970s, according to the Tax Policy Center.

It's clear the rich are getting a big break on their taxes and should be paying more. The idea isn't to take so much money that taxation, in and of itself, closes the income gap. It's to use that tax money to fund programs, like public education, that could give everyone a fair shot at success in an economy that only serves the very wealthy.

One of the reasons income inequality persists is people don't realize how wide the gap between rich and poor has become. Credit masks poverty, and most of us are stuck in an income bubble -- we tend only to see and associate with people who are like us, economically.

Luckily I am not one of those people. I think I'm finally on the side where being greedy benefits me. Fuck yall.

 

[sealybobo]

I always find this narrative fascinating....The top 1% of wage earners already pay 45% of all income tax paid and 45% of American's pay no income tax at all.
That said, how is the notion that our most productive positive contributors owe more manifested?
Why is it never said that we have too many bottom feeders stealing from the middle class and how does that not make more sense to sane rational folks? Take the $100 billion we spend on illegal beaners every year...what if we diverted that cash alone and funneled it through the hands of the middle class and REAL Americans?

How do you solve a problem like inequality? Economic policymakers have been grappling with this for a long time, with varying degrees of urgency. The search for solutions has become increasingly serious since the 1980s, when inequality began rising again, recently reaching historic highs.

After studying thousands of years of human history, Stanford professor Walter Scheidel identified four indisputable ways to reduce inequality: war, revolution, state collapse, and deadly pandemics.

Throughout history, the best ways to reduce inequality have been disease and destruction

 

[sealybobo]

Intellectual property rights—patents, trademarks and copyrights—have been enlarged and extended, for example, creating windfalls for pharmaceutical companies. Americans now pay the highest pharmaceutical costs of any advanced nation.

At the same time, antitrust laws have been relaxed for corporations with significant market power, such as big food companies, cable companies facing little or no broadband competition, big airlines and the largest Wall Street banks. As a result, Americans pay more for broadband Internet, food, airline tickets and banking services than the citizens of any other advanced nation.

Bankruptcy laws have been loosened for large corporations—airlines, automobile manufacturers, even casino magnates like Donald Trump—allowing them to leave workers and communities stranded. But bankruptcy has not been extended to homeowners burdened by mortgage debt or to graduates laden with student debt. Their debts won’t be forgiven.

 

[sealybobo]

Meanwhile, so-called “free trade” agreements, such as the pending Trans Pacific Partnership, give stronger protection to intellectual property and financial assets but less protection to the labor of average working Americans.

Today, nearly one out of every three working Americans is in a part-time job. Many are consultants, freelancers and independent contractors. Two-thirds are living paycheck to paycheck.

And employment benefits have shriveled. The portion of workers with any pension connected to their job has fallen from just over half in 1979 to under 35 percent today.

Labor unions have been eviscerated. Fifty years ago, when General Motors was the largest employer in America, the typical GM worker, backed by a strong union, earned $35 an hour in today’s dollars.

Now America’s largest employer is Wal-Mart, and the typical entry-level Wal-Mart worker, without a union, earns about $9 an hour.

More states have adopted so-called “right-to-work” laws, designed to bust unions. The National Labor Relations Board, understaffed and overburdened, has barely enforced collective bargaining.

All of these changes have resulted in higher corporate profits, higher returns for shareholders and higher pay for top corporate executives and Wall Street bankers – and lower pay and higher prices for most other Americans.

They amount to a giant pre-distribution upward to the rich. But we’re not aware of them because they’re hidden inside the market.

The underlying problem, then, is not just globalization and technological changes that have made most American workers less competitive. Nor is it that they lack enough education to be sufficiently productive.

The more basic problem is that the market itself has become tilted ever more in the direction of moneyed interests that have exerted disproportionate influence over it, while average workers have steadily lost bargaining power—both economic and political—to receive as large a portion of the economy’s gains as they commanded in the first three decades after World War II.

Reversing the scourge of widening inequality requires reversing the upward pre-distributions within the rules of the market, and giving average people the bargaining power they need to get a larger share of the gains from growth.

The answer to this problem is not found in economics. It is found in politics. Ultimately, the trend toward widening inequality in America, as elsewhere, can be reversed only if the vast majority join together to demand fundamental change.

The Real Reason for the Growing Gap Between Rich and Poor

 

[sealybobo]

you should look it up, the internet provides a nice place for reference material for you to get an answer.

Oh, and brokeloser, posted it already.

How much does our Capitalist in Chief, pay in personal income taxes?

$38 million in 2005 which is more than your entire bloodline will EARN in their lifetimes.
He pays more per year in property tax and sales tax than you'll earn over your life.
Next!

We had to go back 12 years to find a time when Trump actually paid taxes

Bold statement...does that mean you have his return from last year?

Trump admitted he paid no taxes....said it "Makes him smart"

But brokeloser will never admit it. Then once he has to admit it he will say it's ok because he pays a lot in other taxes and because he's a job creator.

This guy is so far up the billionaires butts it stinks.

 

[WEATHER53]

Liberal tear jerkers can try earning some solid money and see how eager they are to give it to under producers

 

[Markle]

Donnie told us what he does to women. You just don't care, deplorable.

Just curious, have you ever been in a men's barracks or locker room? What Donald Trump said was mild. You know it, I know it so why play games? No one ever accused President Trump of being racist, sexist, bigoted or an anti-Semite UNTIL he became president.

When Donald Trump bought Mar-a-Lago in 1985, he was sued by the city of Palm Beach. For what was he being sued?

President Trump's father was vehemently opposed to his son putting this person in charge of President Trumps first skyscraper in New York

 

[Mustang]

I always find this narrative fascinating....The top 1% of wage earners already pay 45% of all income tax paid and 45% of American's pay no income tax at all.
That said, how is the notion that our most productive positive contributors owe more manifested?
Why is it never said that we have too many bottom feeders stealing from the middle class and how does that not make more sense to sane rational folks? Take the $100 billion we spend on illegal beaners every year...what if we diverted that cash alone and funneled it through the hands of the middle class and REAL Americans?

You mean like when the owners of a major sports franchise get the city, county, and state gov'ts help to support a taxpayer-funded bond issue to build them a new stadium?

 

[BrokeLoser]

I always find this narrative fascinating....The top 1% of wage earners already pay 45% of all income tax paid and 45% of American's pay no income tax at all.
That said, how is the notion that our most productive positive contributors owe more manifested?
Why is it never said that we have too many bottom feeders stealing from the middle class and how does that not make more sense to sane rational folks? Take the $100 billion we spend on illegal beaners every year...what if we diverted that cash alone and funneled it through the hands of the middle class and REAL Americans?

You mean like when the owners of a major sports franchise get the city, county, and state gov'ts help to support a taxpayer-funded bond issue to build them a new stadium?

Stupid people can't see past their nose...they can't calculate the long term gains against the short term expenses.

 

[Markle]

You think wealthy people don't get government assistance?

They get more than anyone

Is this what you were taught by George Soros' MediaMatters? The Nation?

While the U.S. tax system is progressive, the distribution of government spending makes the overall fiscal system more progressive than is apparent from tax distributions alone. Using a microdata model we estimate the distribution of federal, state and local taxes and spending between 1991 and 2004.

We find households in the lowest quintile of income received roughly $8.21 in federal, state and local government spending for every dollar of taxes paid in 2004, while households in the middle quintile received $1.30, and households in the top quintile received $0.41.

Overall, tax payments exceeded government spending received for the top two quintiles of income, resulting in a net fiscal transfer of between $1.031 trillion and $1.527 trillion between quintiles. Both taxes and spending appear to have large distributional effects on households, and these effects have grown since 1991.

The results suggest tax distributions alone are an inadequate measure of progressivity, and policymakers should examine both tax and spending distributions when judging the overall fairness of policy toward income groups.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/wp1.pdf

 

[Markle]

I always find this narrative fascinating....The top 1% of wage earners already pay 45% of all income tax paid and 45% of American's pay no income tax at all.
That said, how is the notion that our most productive positive contributors owe more manifested?
Why is it never said that we have too many bottom feeders stealing from the middle class and how does that not make more sense to sane rational folks? Take the $100 billion we spend on illegal beaners every year...what if we diverted that cash alone and funneled it through the hands of the middle class and REAL Americans?

You mean like when the owners of a major sports franchise get the city, county, and state gov'ts help to support a taxpayer-funded bond issue to build them a new stadium?

A bond issue sells bonds to investors. That could be you or me. Then the bonds are paid off and the investors are paid back plus interest. What seems to be your problem? Of what benefit is the new stadium to the city, county, and state?

 

[Markle]

I always find this narrative fascinating....The top 1% of wage earners already pay 45% of all income tax paid and 45% of American's pay no income tax at all.
That said, how is the notion that our most productive positive contributors owe more manifested?
Why is it never said that we have too many bottom feeders stealing from the middle class and how does that not make more sense to sane rational folks? Take the $100 billion we spend on illegal beaners every year...what if we diverted that cash alone and funneled it through the hands of the middle class and REAL Americans?

Well it is obvious wealth redistribution needs to take place of people to survive in the US all you have to do is look around and see how many are in poverty, struggling with work, only able to get part time jobs, turning to very dangerous jobs for work, or turning to crime to pay the bills.

Before I became a truck driver I worked in security and one thing became obvious to me that a lot of people who turn to crime do it because this is the only way they can make enough money to survive. If there were more redistribution of wealth or the government took care of people more the way it should we would have a lot less crime. They were often low skill workers who weren't very bright. A lot of high school dropouts.

A lot of low wage workers in order to survive also do things they aren't suppose to not out of choice, but that is the only way they can supplement their income enough so they can survive. In a low income area I worked I knew a lot of fast food workers also would sell drugs or illegally collect money for kids they didn't really have just so they could survive, they would of been homeless otherwise. You could say these were bad people, or you could look at it from the angle of the structure of our American society and blame the government for why they are selling drugs and turning to crime. This is the consequence of Capitalism. If the government gave them the job they need to survive or the money they needed to survive do you think they would turn to crime? I don't think so. It's like that movie "Trading Places". It's easy for someone with a nice job and can pay the bills to look down on those people and call them bad people, but you know what that is easy to say if you never were homeless and struggled. I have been homeless before living in a cardboard box on the street and I have a masters degree.

The nice thing about truck driving is it saves a lot of people from turning to a bad lifestyle, truck driving saved me. I met people who were low wage workers before, drug dealers before, who served prison time before, who are now successful truck driver making 40k+ a year. Being a truck driver wasn't a choice I wanted, but driving and living out of a truck is better than turning to other more dangerous options.

Capitalism is to blame for all the drugs and crime and people having low wage jobs that won't pay the bills in my opinion. We need to put the axe to capitalism and replace it instead with socialism and have the government take over businesses and have more control over them.

You did a fine job articulating your point but let me tell you how your story reads for successful, productive people.
"I made some poor life decisions and even worse career choices, I NEED Government to hold my hand and pave a pathway for me. Further, I deserve some of others people's wealth...just because they made sound decisions, key career choices and stayed ambitious should not entitle them to all of their own cash."
Make no mistake about it...essentially what you want is to penalized the guy for doing well and reward the guy for doing poorly.
That never, ever works...not in sports, not in business, not in education....IT NEVER WORKS!
Now bear in mind...it's only the people at or near the bottom that share your sentiment...surely you don't view that as coincidence?

You think wealthy people don't get government assistance?

They get more than anyone

How so?

Word games again. Nevertheless if the word "productive" means anything at all brokeloser was correct in using it to describe people who create value.
An economic system which Values all citizens" misvalues the majority and all are poor. Economic systems dont value. They punish when you break the laws of economics or reward when you work with them.
I prefer an economic system with allows all citizens the opportunity to produce value and enjoy the fruits of their labor.

You have been brainwashed.
Productive means producing something such as a washing machine, TV, car, beer, and so on. It is the workers who produce. Those spivs who produce nothing but paper wealth in trading other people's money in stocks and shares, playing international currency markets, offering so-called financial services in banking speculation, are leeches who produce nothing but a paper value because the capitalist system rewards these greedy operators. They bring shame upon America.

Thirty per cent goes to taxes..Plus 71/2% to social security. If they drive they pay outrageous gasoline taxes. There is a tax on their phone bill to give out free phones to non workers and a tax on their water bill and a tax on their cable bill to give free cable to inner cities. They have a little left...but to spend it face a sales tax of up to ten per cent on everything else. If they want a raise the Mexican who just floated over the border will do the job for half price.

Only the little people pay taxes in modern America. The wealthy have their money in British overseas territories known as tax havens.

"Productive means producing something such as a washing machine, TV, car, beer, and so on. It is the workers who produce."
NEGATIVE....see, you've been brainwashed. You honestly believe that one must "build" something in order to be "productive". That's some funny shit...haha
pro·duc·tive
prəˈdəktiv/
adjective

1. producing or able to produce large amounts of goods, crops, or other commodities.
   "the most productive employees"
   synonyms: fertile, fruitful, rich, fecund
   "productive land"
   • relating to or engaged in the production of goods, crops, or other commodities.
     "the country's productive capacity"
   • achieving or producing a significant amount or result.
     "a long and productive career"
     synonyms: prolific, inventive, creative;
     
     
     "Only the little people pay taxes in modern America. The wealthy have their money in British overseas territories known as tax havens."
     
     NEGATIVE. Try again.
     "In 2014, people with adjusted gross income, or AGI, above $250,000 paid just over half (51.6%) of all individual income taxes, though they accounted for only 2.7% of all returns filed, according to our analysis of preliminary IRS data. Their average tax rate (total taxes paid divided by cumulative AGI) was 25.7%. By contrast, people with incomes of less than $50,000 accounted for 62.3% of all individual returns filed, but they paid just 5.7% of total taxes. Their average tax rate was 4.3%." -
     High-income Americans pay most income taxes, but enough to be ‘fair’?
     
     "An estimated 45.3 percent of American households — roughly 77.5 million — will pay no federal individual income tax, according to data for the 2015 tax year from the Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan Washington-based research group. (Note that this does not necessarily mean they won’t owe their states income tax.)
     
     Roughly half pay no federal income tax because they have no taxable income, and the other roughly half get enough tax breaks to erase their tax liability, explains Roberton Williams, a senior fellow at the Tax Policy Center." -
     http://nypost.com/2016/02/24/45-percent-of-americans-pay-no-federal-income-tax/

How much in tax do the rich actually pay in Personal Income tax, and how did the rich "earn" their money?

I just posted all the numbers Danny...Why is how they earn their money relevant?

How so?
The Golden Rule....He who has the gold makes the rules

Who protects the assets of the wealthy? Who ensures their global interests are protected? Who provides an educated workforce? Who provides infrastructure? Who provides tax incentives?

Taxpayers

 

[Markle]

What does that have to do with the enormous advantage the wealthy have in accumulating and maintaining money

Not looking to take away what they "earned" but question why we maintain policies to assist the wealthy when those policies obviously do not work

Obviously, they DO work which isD what makes us the envied, wealthy country in the world.

Do you believe that earners remain in one income bracket all their lives or do they climb and descend the ladder?

In your opinion, are the majority of men or women on Forbes wealthiest 400 list self-made individuals or did they inherit their wealth?