"We need to redistribute wealth among Americans" WTF...why does this always sound so retarded to me?

[DOTR]

Maybe 8 years of hope and change would have been more successful if it didn't start during the worst recession in decades, ya dip.

Maybe it would have been more successful without a Republican party doing everything in its power to ensure the recovery would fail. If Obama had followed the Republican advice to allow the banks and auto companies to fail, put no money into the economy and practice austerity and balance the budget.....we would have had a Depression

We would have recovered completely within 18 months. Are you such an illiterate you never heard of the Japanese Experience?
Obama was the first president in history to never have a year of 3% growth. After throwing trillions away. Thank God if the GOP stepped in but in my opinion they didn't do a damn thing right. Over 12 trillion dollars was handed out. The International Monetary Fund says we spent 82% of GDP, over 12 trillion dollars above the normal "safety net". Obama added 7.9 trillion to the national debt in the guise of recession relief. I wish to God some republicans had had the spine to stop the spending. But the GOP jumped in with over 250 billion with Bush as a final goodbye.
But you always want more don't you? Maybe 100% of GDP? What happened to "shovel ready jobs" and "infrastructure" rebuilding.
Have you noticed interest rates are still at stimulus levels? A recovering economy should be over 5%. Long term average is 6%. But the economy is still on life support. Quantitative Easing has still not been unwound.
Failure. Just like the decades of Japanese recession fighting.
Obama created government jobs. Private sector jobs disappeared. For every 250,000 fake government jobs he created 1 million real jobs disappeared forever.

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 - Wikipedia

Never forget the philosophy of the Obana Administration. "Never let a crisis go to waste"

Auto companies would have failed. GM was below a dollar a share
Banks were collapsing
Stimulus turned around the stock market and employers stopped laying off workers
Demanding austerityduring a recession is the quickest path to inducing a Depression

Republicans wrong on all counts

I just proved otherwise.

Actually...you proved nothing

If Obama had done what Republicans urged, we would have fallen into a depression

If. And we are still on a crippled economy. Brilliant.

The Republicans couldn't wait to give money away. And they did.

 

[DOTR]

Aries don't you have one of those worthless do nothing government jobs yourself? Basically a handout for your silly degree which has no real world use?

I had one of those jobs for over 30 years. Helped modernize the military to the most efficient fighting force in history.

What do you do for a living

Are you Aries ?

 

[hazlnut]

I always find this narrative fascinating....The top 1% of wage earners already pay 45% of all income tax paid and 45% of American's pay no income tax at all.
That said, how is the notion that our most productive positive contributors owe more manifested?
Why is it never said that we have too many bottom feeders stealing from the middle class and how does that not make more sense to sane rational folks? Take the $100 billion we spend on illegal beaners every year...what if we diverted that cash alone and funneled it through the hands of the middle class and REAL Americans?

Just remember this when the libtards start bitching that there isn't enough money for the poor.

The War on Poverty has cost $22 trillion -- three times more than what the government has spent on all wars in American history. Federal and state governments spend $1 trillion in taxpayer dollars on America's 80 means-tested welfare programs annually.

The War on Poverty Has Cost $22 Trillion - NCPA
www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=25288

Let's audit the drug war or the poverty war, instead of the Fed. How much of that spending should be under the common defense? Our "wars on crime, drugs, and terror" should be under defense spending.

Spending is spending.

The money gets spent on the people with the best lobbyists.

We need the drug war, it employs millions of American, and supports a billion dollar profit center for health care and "recovery" centers. Think about it, businesses love return customers and the substance abuse industry is no different. They get you just sober enough to go back out and find more drugs. It also stimulate the Mexican economy and border state tax base, as drug dealers spend money.

If you ended the drug war (by magic), all the criminal courts, jails, prisons, treatment centers, and police agencies will have major layoffs and firings. Those people will go out and get drunk, buy drugs because they can't support their families without a job.

Opiates are the new opiate of the masses. We fucked ourselves, refused to change our ways, let the rich take all the wealth, gut the manufacturing and "made in the USA"… and then we elected a man who had no intention of helping the forgotten man. Makes you want to go out and get high.

And the main drug of choice is now MADE IN AMERICA. Yeah, they arrest a handful of Docs for over prescribing, but there's always more Docs willing to step up and push drugs.

It's the legal American cartel. And the GOP wants to cut funding for treatment. Make sense. Wars booster the economy by eliminating surplus population. The problem with the drug war -- not enough casualties. Just close the treatment centers like you closed the women's health clinics. Screw the poor!! Go Trump!!

 

[rightwinger]

Wow. That 8 years of hope and change made a huge difference didn't it? Not to mention a half century " war on poverty".
Look...is there some brain pathology amongst liberals that makes you incapable of learning?

Maybe 8 years of hope and change would have been more successful if it didn't start during the worst recession in decades, ya dip.

Maybe it would have been more successful without a Republican party doing everything in its power to ensure the recovery would fail. If Obama had followed the Republican advice to allow the banks and auto companies to fail, put no money into the economy and practice austerity and balance the budget.....we would have had a Depression

We would have recovered completely within 18 months. Are you such an illiterate you never heard of the Japanese Experience?
Obama was the first president in history to never have a year of 3% growth. After throwing trillions away. Thank God if the GOP stepped in but in my opinion they didn't do a damn thing right. Over 12 trillion dollars was handed out. The International Monetary Fund says we spent 82% of GDP, over 12 trillion dollars above the normal "safety net". Obama added 7.9 trillion to the national debt in the guise of recession relief. I wish to God some republicans had had the spine to stop the spending. But the GOP jumped in with over 250 billion with Bush as a final goodbye.
But you always want more don't you? Maybe 100% of GDP? What happened to "shovel ready jobs" and "infrastructure" rebuilding.
Have you noticed interest rates are still at stimulus levels? A recovering economy should be over 5%. Long term average is 6%. But the economy is still on life support. Quantitative Easing has still not been unwound.
Failure. Just like the decades of Japanese recession fighting.
Obama created government jobs. Private sector jobs disappeared. For every 250,000 fake government jobs he created 1 million real jobs disappeared forever.

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 - Wikipedia

Never forget the philosophy of the Obana Administration. "Never let a crisis go to waste"

Auto companies would have failed. GM was below a dollar a share
Banks were collapsing
Stimulus turned around the stock market and employers stopped laying off workers
Demanding austerityduring a recession is the quickest path to inducing a Depression

Republicans wrong on all counts

Want a list of huge auto companies which failed...while America rolled on? You just like the idea of handouts to rich liberals. If Americans won't buy GMs shitty cars then by God the government will seize it from their paychecks and hand it over to GM anyhow. That's fine working class policy.
Then they will go a step farther with cash for clunkers and crush old cars so the poor must buy a new one.

We were down to three automakers
If we had listened to Republicans, there would have been one

Yes, we need GM

 

[rightwinger]

Maybe it would have been more successful without a Republican party doing everything in its power to ensure the recovery would fail. If Obama had followed the Republican advice to allow the banks and auto companies to fail, put no money into the economy and practice austerity and balance the budget.....we would have had a Depression

We would have recovered completely within 18 months. Are you such an illiterate you never heard of the Japanese Experience?
Obama was the first president in history to never have a year of 3% growth. After throwing trillions away. Thank God if the GOP stepped in but in my opinion they didn't do a damn thing right. Over 12 trillion dollars was handed out. The International Monetary Fund says we spent 82% of GDP, over 12 trillion dollars above the normal "safety net". Obama added 7.9 trillion to the national debt in the guise of recession relief. I wish to God some republicans had had the spine to stop the spending. But the GOP jumped in with over 250 billion with Bush as a final goodbye.
But you always want more don't you? Maybe 100% of GDP? What happened to "shovel ready jobs" and "infrastructure" rebuilding.
Have you noticed interest rates are still at stimulus levels? A recovering economy should be over 5%. Long term average is 6%. But the economy is still on life support. Quantitative Easing has still not been unwound.
Failure. Just like the decades of Japanese recession fighting.
Obama created government jobs. Private sector jobs disappeared. For every 250,000 fake government jobs he created 1 million real jobs disappeared forever.

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 - Wikipedia

Never forget the philosophy of the Obana Administration. "Never let a crisis go to waste"

Auto companies would have failed. GM was below a dollar a share
Banks were collapsing
Stimulus turned around the stock market and employers stopped laying off workers
Demanding austerityduring a recession is the quickest path to inducing a Depression

Republicans wrong on all counts

I just proved otherwise.

Actually...you proved nothing

If Obama had done what Republicans urged, we would have fallen into a depression

If. And we are still on a crippled economy. Brilliant.

The Republicans couldn't wait to give money away. And they did.

We have the strongest economy in the world
Hardly crippled

 

[DOTR]

We would have recovered completely within 18 months. Are you such an illiterate you never heard of the Japanese Experience?
Obama was the first president in history to never have a year of 3% growth. After throwing trillions away. Thank God if the GOP stepped in but in my opinion they didn't do a damn thing right. Over 12 trillion dollars was handed out. The International Monetary Fund says we spent 82% of GDP, over 12 trillion dollars above the normal "safety net". Obama added 7.9 trillion to the national debt in the guise of recession relief. I wish to God some republicans had had the spine to stop the spending. But the GOP jumped in with over 250 billion with Bush as a final goodbye.
But you always want more don't you? Maybe 100% of GDP? What happened to "shovel ready jobs" and "infrastructure" rebuilding.
Have you noticed interest rates are still at stimulus levels? A recovering economy should be over 5%. Long term average is 6%. But the economy is still on life support. Quantitative Easing has still not been unwound.
Failure. Just like the decades of Japanese recession fighting.
Obama created government jobs. Private sector jobs disappeared. For every 250,000 fake government jobs he created 1 million real jobs disappeared forever.

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 - Wikipedia

Never forget the philosophy of the Obana Administration. "Never let a crisis go to waste"

Auto companies would have failed. GM was below a dollar a share
Banks were collapsing
Stimulus turned around the stock market and employers stopped laying off workers
Demanding austerityduring a recession is the quickest path to inducing a Depression

Republicans wrong on all counts

I just proved otherwise.

Actually...you proved nothing

If Obama had done what Republicans urged, we would have fallen into a depression

If. And we are still on a crippled economy. Brilliant.

The Republicans couldn't wait to give money away. And they did.

We have the strongest economy in the world
Hardly crippled

We have a crippled world dipshit.

 

[DOTR]

I always find this narrative fascinating....The top 1% of wage earners already pay 45% of all income tax paid and 45% of American's pay no income tax at all.
That said, how is the notion that our most productive positive contributors owe more manifested?
Why is it never said that we have too many bottom feeders stealing from the middle class and how does that not make more sense to sane rational folks? Take the $100 billion we spend on illegal beaners every year...what if we diverted that cash alone and funneled it through the hands of the middle class and REAL Americans?

Just remember this when the libtards start bitching that there isn't enough money for the poor.

The War on Poverty has cost $22 trillion -- three times more than what the government has spent on all wars in American history. Federal and state governments spend $1 trillion in taxpayer dollars on America's 80 means-tested welfare programs annually.

The War on Poverty Has Cost $22 Trillion - NCPA
www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=25288

Let's audit the drug war or the poverty war, instead of the Fed. How much of that spending should be under the common defense? Our "wars on crime, drugs, and terror" should be under defense spending.

Spending is spending.

The money gets spent on the people with the best lobbyists.

We need the drug war, it employs millions of American, and supports a billion dollar profit center for health care and "recovery" centers. Think about it, businesses love return customers and the substance abuse industry is no different. They get you just sober enough to go back out and find more drugs. It also stimulate the Mexican economy and border state tax base, as drug dealers spend money.

If you ended the drug war (by magic), all the criminal courts, jails, prisons, treatment centers, and police agencies will have major layoffs and firings. Those people will go out and get drunk, buy drugs because they can't support their families without a job.

Opiates are the new opiate of the masses. We fucked ourselves, refused to change our ways, let the rich take all the wealth, gut the manufacturing and "made in the USA"… and then we elected a man who had no intention of helping the forgotten man. Makes you want to go out and get high.

And the main drug of choice is now MADE IN AMERICA. Yeah, they arrest a handful of Docs for over prescribing, but there's always more Docs willing to step up and push drugs.

It's the legal American cartel. And the GOP wants to cut funding for treatment. Make sense. Wars booster the economy by eliminating surplus population. The problem with the drug war -- not enough casualties. Just close the treatment centers like you closed the women's health clinics. Screw the poor!! Go Trump!!

Where do you get this " they get you sober enough to go back and find drugs"? If they have that power it is strangely weak in my life.

 

[DOTR]

I say close every government funded rehab. The best cure is cutting off the welfare and social security payments that fund the addiction. And section 8.
They drug test workers. Works wonders.

 

[rightwinger]

Auto companies would have failed. GM was below a dollar a share
Banks were collapsing
Stimulus turned around the stock market and employers stopped laying off workers
Demanding austerityduring a recession is the quickest path to inducing a Depression

Republicans wrong on all counts

I just proved otherwise.

Actually...you proved nothing

If Obama had done what Republicans urged, we would have fallen into a depression

If. And we are still on a crippled economy. Brilliant.

The Republicans couldn't wait to give money away. And they did.

We have the strongest economy in the world
Hardly crippled

We have a crippled world dipshit.

So we are the healthiest cripple?
It is all relative

 

[DOTR]

Maybe 8 years of hope and change would have been more successful if it didn't start during the worst recession in decades, ya dip.

Maybe it would have been more successful without a Republican party doing everything in its power to ensure the recovery would fail. If Obama had followed the Republican advice to allow the banks and auto companies to fail, put no money into the economy and practice austerity and balance the budget.....we would have had a Depression

We would have recovered completely within 18 months. Are you such an illiterate you never heard of the Japanese Experience?
Obama was the first president in history to never have a year of 3% growth. After throwing trillions away. Thank God if the GOP stepped in but in my opinion they didn't do a damn thing right. Over 12 trillion dollars was handed out. The International Monetary Fund says we spent 82% of GDP, over 12 trillion dollars above the normal "safety net". Obama added 7.9 trillion to the national debt in the guise of recession relief. I wish to God some republicans had had the spine to stop the spending. But the GOP jumped in with over 250 billion with Bush as a final goodbye.
But you always want more don't you? Maybe 100% of GDP? What happened to "shovel ready jobs" and "infrastructure" rebuilding.
Have you noticed interest rates are still at stimulus levels? A recovering economy should be over 5%. Long term average is 6%. But the economy is still on life support. Quantitative Easing has still not been unwound.
Failure. Just like the decades of Japanese recession fighting.
Obama created government jobs. Private sector jobs disappeared. For every 250,000 fake government jobs he created 1 million real jobs disappeared forever.

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 - Wikipedia

Never forget the philosophy of the Obana Administration. "Never let a crisis go to waste"

Auto companies would have failed. GM was below a dollar a share
Banks were collapsing
Stimulus turned around the stock market and employers stopped laying off workers
Demanding austerityduring a recession is the quickest path to inducing a Depression

Republicans wrong on all counts

Want a list of huge auto companies which failed...while America rolled on? You just like the idea of handouts to rich liberals. If Americans won't buy GMs shitty cars then by God the government will seize it from their paychecks and hand it over to GM anyhow. That's fine working class policy.
Then they will go a step farther with cash for clunkers and crush old cars so the poor must buy a new one.

We were down to three automakers
If we had listened to Republicans, there would have been one

Yes, we need GM

If we needed gm we would have been buying gm cars.

 

[DOTR]

I just proved otherwise.

Actually...you proved nothing

If Obama had done what Republicans urged, we would have fallen into a depression

If. And we are still on a crippled economy. Brilliant.

The Republicans couldn't wait to give money away. And they did.

We have the strongest economy in the world
Hardly crippled

We have a crippled world dipshit.

So we are the healthiest cripple?
It is all relative

Well not unless you can live in or retire on a chat room score.

 

[francoHFW]

Actually...you proved nothing

If Obama had done what Republicans urged, we would have fallen into a depression

If. And we are still on a crippled economy. Brilliant.

The Republicans couldn't wait to give money away. And they did.

We have the strongest economy in the world
Hardly crippled

We have a crippled world dipshit.

So we are the healthiest cripple?
It is all relative

Well not unless you can live in or retire on a chat room score.

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Of course those socialists' problems were all caused by the usual corrupt GOP bubble/bust/world depression that idiot GOP dupes blame on Dems somehow. You live on a fake news planet.

 

[francoHFW]

I always find this narrative fascinating....The top 1% of wage earners already pay 45% of all income tax paid and 45% of American's pay no income tax at all.
That said, how is the notion that our most productive positive contributors owe more manifested?
Why is it never said that we have too many bottom feeders stealing from the middle class and how does that not make more sense to sane rational folks? Take the $100 billion we spend on illegal beaners every year...what if we diverted that cash alone and funneled it through the hands of the middle class and REAL Americans?

Of course you're duped in that you can only think in fed income taxes. Count ALL taxes and we basically have a flat tax, with the richest ending up with all the new wealth. Great job!! For 35 years we've had low fed taxes and rising state and local taxes, which kill the nonrich and infrastructure. The New BS GOP has been redistributing wealth to the rich all that time DUHHHHHH....

 

[danielpalos]

And as long as it's legal, he's right. If he illegally didn't pay, do you really think the IRS would sit idly by and ignore it?


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It may be legal....yet it puts Trump in with the 47% of Freeloaders who do not pay taxes

I'm sure there's no way you're in that 47 percentile....haha
Has it been confirmed that Trump didn't pay income taxes?
38 million paid in one year...Imagine the amount of property taxes, sales taxes, luxury taxes and payroll taxes Donny T pays year in and year out...DAMN this guy is awesome...he contributes more in one year than all those bottom feeding subhumans you people champion for will in their lifetimes....that really puts in in perspective...huh? hahaha

I am a highly compensated message board poster and pay at a high tax bracket

Now, Trump for that matter has not paid taxes in a decade and brags about how that makes him smart
Only stupid people like you and I actually pay taxes

I am trying to become better at tax avoidance, like the one percent.

I'm having trouble understanding how you're having trouble understanding that the 1% already pay half of this countries collected income tax.
What part of that are you struggling to understand?
Is there a third grader near you? They could help you "get it".

Nothing but right wing, special pleading; the One Percent obtained a tax break large enough to drive a yacht through. Taxes are based on ability to pay. I understand that the poor and Mr. Trump, only pay the taxes we are legally obligated to pay.

 

[danielpalos]

Why does a One Percenter, need any tax breaks.

not sure I understand your question. what tax breaks?

Why are we not raising taxes on the One Percent, to make sure we pay off the debt.

The 1%' ers are already paying your way. We think it makes better sense to cut expenses...you know, all that money we pay filthy wetbacks just to come degrade our society.
We also think it's time that bottom feeders pull their heads from their asses and figure out how to make positive contributions. Wait till you see the welfare reform proposal...haha...all hell will break loose!

Nothing but right wing fantasy?

End the drug war, right wingers.

Just so I understand you clearly; soooo you want:
More drugs and drug addicts
More illegal immigrants
More welfare
A higher minimum wage
Taxpayer funded payments to the unemployed whom don't qualify for unemployment
Taxpayer funded healthcare for all
Do I have this all correct Danny?
Geee....I'm gonna go out on a limb and bet you're a super successful individual....hahaha

Why do we need fewer but richer, One Percenters.

 

[danielpalos]

Equal protection of the law and simple recourse to unemployment compensation on at-will basis in our at-will employment States, can solve simple poverty.

As you know, there will ALWAYS be poverty. There will ALWAYS be a percentage of people who have been convinced that they are indeed victims and DESERVE to be taken care of by others and they have no personal responsibility.

You confuse poverty with simply being poor. They are not the same. That is why I don't take the right wing seriously; nothing but false Causes, ever since the Civil War.

 

[danielpalos]

Why does a One Percenter, need any tax breaks.

What are tax breaks and what YOU call tax breaks are two entirely different things.

lol. I love, right wing cognitive dissonance.

Not having to pay taxes is a break.

Why does a One Percenter, need any tax breaks.

 

[danielpalos]

We had to go back 12 years to find a time when Trump actually paid taxes

Please show us the proof of that allegation and even more importantly, why does it matter?

the poor don't pay taxes for years.

 

[hadit]

Why does a One Percenter, need any tax breaks.

What are tax breaks and what YOU call tax breaks are two entirely different things.

lol. I love, right wing cognitive dissonance.

Not having to pay taxes is a break.

Why does a One Percenter, need any tax breaks.

This is where the wheels always fall off the tricycle of those who hate the rich. Need has nothing to do with it, just as need has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment.


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[danielpalos]

Why does a One Percenter, need any tax breaks.

What are tax breaks and what YOU call tax breaks are two entirely different things.

lol. I love, right wing cognitive dissonance.

Not having to pay taxes is a break.

Why does a One Percenter, need any tax breaks.

This is where the wheels always fall off the tricycle of those who hate the rich. Need has nothing to do with it, just as need has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment.


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Why does a One Percenter, need any tax breaks.