rightwinger
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Do you not notice that all you are doing is tossing out catch phrases?
Workers are higher trained....really? In what way? DO you know that skill and training was required to run a mutli spindle lathe...now the only skill necessary is to know what "on and oiff" mean to run a CNC lathe.
Work longer hours....really? Exactly where do you see that happening? JUst a catch phrase.
Telling labor that they have to take less? Hell, if it were prosperous times and someone said that to me, I would find another job.
But as for taking less? Do you feel that a switchboard operator in the day of voicemail should be making more (in todays dollars) than a switchbord operator of 20 years ago?
Dont you see how you are just regurgitating catch phrases just like the puppeteers want you to?
Yes, I am familiar with metal work and have a son who is a welder. It goes beyond pushing a button, like you say. Progress is progress and jobs change. That does not mean that the value of labor is now worthless.
In many towns and cities in this country, workers do not have the options of just moving when they don't like the conditions. The jobs are not there.
Workers are higher trained than they were a generation or two ago. Back then a High School diploma was the norm....if you graduated at all. You could leave highschool and get a job that would support you the rest of your life. On that blue collar salary you could buy a house, raise five kids, send them to college and never have to have your wife work
Now, it is hard to do that with a college degree. The standard wage of working Americans has not kept pace with rising costs. Workers have been sold on doing the same jobs for less salary and benefits. While the workers have suffered during tough economic times, management incentives have reached unprecidented levels
JFK once said a rising tide lifts all boats. In our current economy, the rising tide only lifts the yachts
So again, I say your complaint is with technology...not business owners.
If you were buying a new car and you were told that you could buy a car that would use half the gas, cost you a little more than a regular car...but not require any maintenance WHATSOEVER for 5 years GUARANTEED due to new technology....would you buy the car?
Naturally, it would put many mechanics out of a job...and many gas station attendants....but it would help your personal bottom line. Would you resist out of concern for those that you will force out of a job? Lets say you were already very comfortable and dint need to save on the use of a mechanic...but the op[potunity was there to buy a car that ddint require a mechanic....would you not buy it?
Do you pay less for self serve or more for full serve gas? I bet you use self serve. You realize such put thousands out of work.
Why is it that a business owner is blasted for allowing technology to make his life more comfortable.....but non businmess owners do it every day as well?
Red Herring and I live in New Jersey and have my gas pumped for me
I do not have a beef with technology. Ludites didn't work out then and do not work out now. Jobs evolve and workers need to evolve. That does not mean that the value of their work is now worthless.
Your mechanics are still there. They are more technologically trained than before and there are fewer of them. What has changed is that the workers have been asked to tighten their belts and do more for less. They have been told to sacrifice or else.
While the workers have accepted less and less they see corporate managers taking more and more. The imbalance between worker salaries and upper management salaries and perks is not supported by the performance of American Companies.
An American CEO makes many times more than a Japanese or European CEO ..they do not have the performance to justify it. Meanwhile the gap between worker pay and executive compensation in those countries is much less than in the US
Hogs at the trough