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If you're afraid of getting sick, stay home. But you can't tell me what to do.
Life is a risk. Freedom means you get to choose.
You shouldn't be surprised by the complicity of the American people. I certainly am not.
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If you're afraid of getting sick, stay home. But you can't tell me what to do.
Life is a risk. Freedom means you get to choose.
It is not okay that millions of people have their lives disrupted and everything they worked for taken from them. Remember the movie The Boy in a Plastic Bubble? He faced certain death if he exposed himself to the dangers of ordinary life. You might have to live in a Plastic bubble. You might well have to pay a price for being so delicate through no fault of your own.You do realize that even before this dempanic nonsense life was a crapshoot. At any given moment dozens of diseases are swirling around you. There are several different strains of influenza, TB, even diseases thought eradicated still have vestiges. If you were to look at your skin under a microscope you would see an overcrowded war zone.You are right to a certain extent. People are not at this minute starving but if we continue with the lockdown that will change in very short order. Banks can not continue to forgive, rental owners can not continue to forgive, the governmedemocrats.ycontinue to place Trillions on its credit card. There has to be a point when no matter what we have to open.You are ignoring the fact that millions and millions are collecting unemployment, that small businesses have been given money they won't have to pay back as long as they use the money to continue to pay their workers, that stimulus checks have already been delivered all over the country and that major banks have agreed not to foreclose on unpaid mortgages. The people are hurting, sure. Unemployment is not as much as a paycheck and the small businesses paying their staff have cut the hours they are covering.I can see a reasonable "stay home" period, especially in cities where subway rides can mean an explosion in cases.
However, as long as masks are worn, and hand sanitizer used, that should safely allow people to work.
Governors need to know that most people live week to week and no work means no money.
Yes, for the economy's sake, we need to get things going. But it is not because everyone is penniless and starving.
People take a chance just from living, heart attack etc. you take a chance from getting in a car, from getting in a plane. People need to decide for themselves when the risk of loosing everything they have is worth the risk of going back to work.
Some even see the suspension of the bill of rights and the constitution as grounds for ending the lockdown.
People are in different positions in life. Yes, you take a chance by getting in a car, but if you drive a car totally drunk, your chances of getting in an accident rise considerably.
As for myself, while I understand the economic ramifications, I don't think the last couple of weeks will kill us. What will kill me is getting this virus, so my interest is seeing it wiped out ASAP. With my medical conditions, I'm that guy who's totally drunk getting behind the wheel of a car.
The greatest danger doesn't come from this virus. The greatest danger comes from sanitizing yourself so much that the eternal war for your health and well being gets out of balance.
This virus is not much different than the flu. The major difference however is how fast it can spread.
I understand both sides of the argument. But I don't go outside unless I have to for food, beverage or medication. It's not fun as we all currently know. I don't know anybody here personally, but I'm willing to bet most of the "open up the economy" people are at low risk for death. You catch it, no big deal. You stay home for a few weeks and carry on with life.
Okay, so we do just that, we open up the economy. What's likely to happen? That flattened curve will no longer be flat, It will resume going upwards. But hey, at least people are back at work or continuing their life, right?
That's true, but it makes people like me have to live this isolated lifestyle for months and perhaps well over another year. Is that okay with you?
Deficits pale by comparison to human life.So you just can't bring yourself to take a stance on the deficit. Manly because you either way it would show you for the idiot you are.I'm afraid you're confused. Your post is half garbled nonsense and half republican regurgitation.And you have not only been brainwashed to believe that the democrats care about you but that you can blame republicans for everything that they do. I would say that is sad but it is more tragic then sad.Lol, the republicans have brainwashed you to believe their government is more important than your life.So I take it you have now embraced the deficit whole heartily.And that is why they continue to use you, to the point of endangering yours and your loved ones lives.Except that nobody said that.Willful ignorance in rampant among Trump cultists. It explains his election.The refusal by some to understand how viruses like this spread is hard for thinking people to understand.Obviously you either never read or don't understand the Bill Of Rights. No where in there does it say that .gov can shut down your business, close the churches, and force you to stay home.You shouldn't speak on subjects you know nothing about.And you are exactly what the framers of the Constitution warned us about.
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The Bill of Rights is not the legal code which determines this matter. Is it?Your RWNJ "media" sources are gonna kill you or your loved ones.If you're afraid of getting sick, stay home. But you can't tell me what to do.
Life is a risk. Freedom means you get to choose.
Why would you listen to someone who would tell you to take a risk like that?
It’s always fascinating to take a peek into your twisted minds.
“Please Father Government, please deprive me of rights...PLEASE!”
Your "leaders" are willing to sacrifice you on the alter of their re-election campaign. They will do or say anything to that end, and your lives along with your families lives and anyone else who gets in their way are forfeit.
And you're all apparently to dumb to see it.
What does a re-election campaign have to do with ignorant fools embracing / allowing / encouraging a loss of rights?
You are now saying the opposite of what you were yelling was one of your many criticisms of Trump.
I don't know why I'm laughing, it's really not funny.
So answer the question little one. Are you now embarrassing a higher deficit and now willing to give Trump a pass on his deficit?
Take a deep breath and try again
Once again do you consider your needs above many others?So lets turn that around just a little. Is it alright to take other people's house and car and savings away just so you aren't inconvenienced?You do realize that even before this dempanic nonsense life was a crapshoot. At any given moment dozens of diseases are swirling around you. There are several different strains of influenza, TB, even diseases thought eradicated still have vestiges. If you were to look at your skin under a microscope you would see an overcrowded war zone.You are right to a certain extent. People are not at this minute starving but if we continue with the lockdown that will change in very short order. Banks can not continue to forgive, rental owners can not continue to forgive, the government can not continue to place Trillions on its credit card. There has to be a point when no matter what we have to open.You are ignoring the fact that millions and millions are collecting unemployment, that small businesses have been given money they won't have to pay back as long as they use the money to continue to pay their workers, that stimulus checks have already been delivered all over the country and that major banks have agreed not to foreclose on unpaid mortgages. The people are hurting, sure. Unemployment is not as much as a paycheck and the small businesses paying their staff have cut the hours they are covering.I can see a reasonable "stay home" period, especially in cities where subway rides can mean an explosion in cases.
However, as long as masks are worn, and hand sanitizer used, that should safely allow people to work.
Governors need to know that most people live week to week and no work means no money.
Yes, for the economy's sake, we need to get things going. But it is not because everyone is penniless and starving.
People take a chance just from living, heart attack etc. you take a chance from getting in a car, from getting in a plane. People need to decide for themselves when the risk of loosing everything they have is worth the risk of going back to work.
Some even see the suspension of the bill of rights and the constitution as grounds for ending the lockdown.
People are in different positions in life. Yes, you take a chance by getting in a car, but if you drive a car totally drunk, your chances of getting in an accident rise considerably.
As for myself, while I understand the economic ramifications, I don't think the last couple of weeks will kill us. What will kill me is getting this virus, so my interest is seeing it wiped out ASAP. With my medical conditions, I'm that guy who's totally drunk getting behind the wheel of a car.
The greatest danger doesn't come from this virus. The greatest danger comes from sanitizing yourself so much that the eternal war for your health and well being gets out of balance.
This virus is not much different than the flu. The major difference however is how fast it can spread.
I understand both sides of the argument. But I don't go outside unless I have to for food, beverage or medication. It's not fun as we all currently know. I don't know anybody here personally, but I'm willing to bet most of the "open up the economy" people are at low risk for death. You catch it, no big deal. You stay home for a few weeks and carry on with life.
Okay, so we do just that, we open up the economy. What's likely to happen? That flattened curve will no longer be flat, It will resume going upwards. But hey, at least people are back at work or continuing their life, right?
That's true, but it makes people like me have to live this isolated lifestyle for months and perhaps well over another year. Is that okay with you?
Is it ok to increase our national debt just so you aren't inconvenienced?
I think there can be a happy middle ground to this. I say keep it this way until there are easily enough N-95 masks for everybody. If the mask you wear isn't an N-95, it isn't providing adequate protection. It's only helping stop the spread of the virus if you have it.
It is not okay that millions of people have their lives disrupted and everything they worked for taken from them. Remember the movie The Boy in a Plastic Bubble? He faced certain death if he exposed himself to the dangers of ordinary life. You might have to live in a Plastic bubble. You might well have to pay a price for being so delicate through no fault of your own.
I know! Look at those tRumplings all lining up behind their media personalities to die.If you're afraid of getting sick, stay home. But you can't tell me what to do.
Life is a risk. Freedom means you get to choose.
You shouldn't be surprised by the complicity of the American people. I certainly am not.
Deficits pale by comparison to human life.So you just can't bring yourself to take a stance on the deficit. Manly because you either way it would show you for the idiot you are.I'm afraid you're confused. Your post is half garbled nonsense and half republican regurgitation.And you have not only been brainwashed to believe that the democrats care about you but that you can blame republicans for everything that they do. I would say that is sad but it is more tragic then sad.Lol, the republicans have brainwashed you to believe their government is more important than your life.So I take it you have now embraced the deficit whole heartily.And that is why they continue to use you, to the point of endangering yours and your loved ones lives.Except that nobody said that.Willful ignorance in rampant among Trump cultists. It explains his election.The refusal by some to understand how viruses like this spread is hard for thinking people to understand.Obviously you either never read or don't understand the Bill Of Rights. No where in there does it say that .gov can shut down your business, close the churches, and force you to stay home.You shouldn't speak on subjects you know nothing about.And you are exactly what the framers of the Constitution warned us about.
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health-safety-and-morals
www.law.cornell.edu
The Bill of Rights is not the legal code which determines this matter. Is it?Your RWNJ "media" sources are gonna kill you or your loved ones.If you're afraid of getting sick, stay home. But you can't tell me what to do.
Life is a risk. Freedom means you get to choose.
Why would you listen to someone who would tell you to take a risk like that?
It’s always fascinating to take a peek into your twisted minds.
“Please Father Government, please deprive me of rights...PLEASE!”
Your "leaders" are willing to sacrifice you on the alter of their re-election campaign. They will do or say anything to that end, and your lives along with your families lives and anyone else who gets in their way are forfeit.
And you're all apparently to dumb to see it.
What does a re-election campaign have to do with ignorant fools embracing / allowing / encouraging a loss of rights?
You are now saying the opposite of what you were yelling was one of your many criticisms of Trump.
I don't know why I'm laughing, it's really not funny.
So answer the question little one. Are you now embarrassing a higher deficit and now willing to give Trump a pass on his deficit?
Take a deep breath and try again
Shame on you for even attempting this distraction.
It is not okay that millions of people have their lives disrupted and everything they worked for taken from them. Remember the movie The Boy in a Plastic Bubble? He faced certain death if he exposed himself to the dangers of ordinary life. You might have to live in a Plastic bubble. You might well have to pay a price for being so delicate through no fault of your own.You do realize that even before this dempanic nonsense life was a crapshoot. At any given moment dozens of diseases are swirling around you. There are several different strains of influenza, TB, even diseases thought eradicated still have vestiges. If you were to look at your skin under a microscope you would see an overcrowded war zone.You are right to a certain extent. People are not at this minute starving but if we continue with the lockdown that will change in very short order. Banks can not continue to forgive, rental owners can not continue to forgive, the governmedemocrats.ycontinue to place Trillions on its credit card. There has to be a point when no matter what we have to open.You are ignoring the fact that millions and millions are collecting unemployment, that small businesses have been given money they won't have to pay back as long as they use the money to continue to pay their workers, that stimulus checks have already been delivered all over the country and that major banks have agreed not to foreclose on unpaid mortgages. The people are hurting, sure. Unemployment is not as much as a paycheck and the small businesses paying their staff have cut the hours they are covering.I can see a reasonable "stay home" period, especially in cities where subway rides can mean an explosion in cases.
However, as long as masks are worn, and hand sanitizer used, that should safely allow people to work.
Governors need to know that most people live week to week and no work means no money.
Yes, for the economy's sake, we need to get things going. But it is not because everyone is penniless and starving.
People take a chance just from living, heart attack etc. you take a chance from getting in a car, from getting in a plane. People need to decide for themselves when the risk of loosing everything they have is worth the risk of going back to work.
Some even see the suspension of the bill of rights and the constitution as grounds for ending the lockdown.
People are in different positions in life. Yes, you take a chance by getting in a car, but if you drive a car totally drunk, your chances of getting in an accident rise considerably.
As for myself, while I understand the economic ramifications, I don't think the last couple of weeks will kill us. What will kill me is getting this virus, so my interest is seeing it wiped out ASAP. With my medical conditions, I'm that guy who's totally drunk getting behind the wheel of a car.
The greatest danger doesn't come from this virus. The greatest danger comes from sanitizing yourself so much that the eternal war for your health and well being gets out of balance.
This virus is not much different than the flu. The major difference however is how fast it can spread.
I understand both sides of the argument. But I don't go outside unless I have to for food, beverage or medication. It's not fun as we all currently know. I don't know anybody here personally, but I'm willing to bet most of the "open up the economy" people are at low risk for death. You catch it, no big deal. You stay home for a few weeks and carry on with life.
Okay, so we do just that, we open up the economy. What's likely to happen? That flattened curve will no longer be flat, It will resume going upwards. But hey, at least people are back at work or continuing their life, right?
That's true, but it makes people like me have to live this isolated lifestyle for months and perhaps well over another year. Is that okay with you?
There are children so highly allergic to peanuts that merely being exposed to peanut butter breath can kill them. There are parents of these children that want to make peanuts illegal. Anyone caught with peanuts is guilty of attempted murder. We don't listen to people like that. We take some precautions and give a few warnings. Those with such allergies understand that someone they pass on the street might have peanuts.
To answer your question am I okay with that? Yes. I'm fine with it. If you are that fragile it is you that must live in a sterile hamster ball. Not everyone else.
You're delusional.Deficits pale by comparison to human life.So you just can't bring yourself to take a stance on the deficit. Manly because you either way it would show you for the idiot you are.I'm afraid you're confused. Your post is half garbled nonsense and half republican regurgitation.And you have not only been brainwashed to believe that the democrats care about you but that you can blame republicans for everything that they do. I would say that is sad but it is more tragic then sad.Lol, the republicans have brainwashed you to believe their government is more important than your life.So I take it you have now embraced the deficit whole heartily.And that is why they continue to use you, to the point of endangering yours and your loved ones lives.Except that nobody said that.Willful ignorance in rampant among Trump cultists. It explains his election.The refusal by some to understand how viruses like this spread is hard for thinking people to understand.Obviously you either never read or don't understand the Bill Of Rights. No where in there does it say that .gov can shut down your business, close the churches, and force you to stay home.You shouldn't speak on subjects you know nothing about.And you are exactly what the framers of the Constitution warned us about.
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health-safety-and-morals
www.law.cornell.edu
The Bill of Rights is not the legal code which determines this matter. Is it?Your RWNJ "media" sources are gonna kill you or your loved ones.If you're afraid of getting sick, stay home. But you can't tell me what to do.
Life is a risk. Freedom means you get to choose.
Why would you listen to someone who would tell you to take a risk like that?
It’s always fascinating to take a peek into your twisted minds.
“Please Father Government, please deprive me of rights...PLEASE!”
Your "leaders" are willing to sacrifice you on the alter of their re-election campaign. They will do or say anything to that end, and your lives along with your families lives and anyone else who gets in their way are forfeit.
And you're all apparently to dumb to see it.
What does a re-election campaign have to do with ignorant fools embracing / allowing / encouraging a loss of rights?
You are now saying the opposite of what you were yelling was one of your many criticisms of Trump.
I don't know why I'm laughing, it's really not funny.
So answer the question little one. Are you now embarrassing a higher deficit and now willing to give Trump a pass on his deficit?
Take a deep breath and try again
Shame on you for even attempting this distraction.
"Shame on you"
This is Leftism.
It's not that they WILL LOSE, it's that they are already losing. See: the beaches in Florida today.
Remember: politics is downstream of culture. For decades now these cats have positioned themselves as shaming, nagging, Puritanical, holier-than-thou preachers. Now they're on huge doses of steroids.
Americans are gonna hate this more than ever, because the Puritans have shown their whole bloomers this time.
This is delicious, Horseman. I love it, because I see it unfurling.
Actually is is the very TRUE story of David Vetter.It is not okay that millions of people have their lives disrupted and everything they worked for taken from them. Remember the movie The Boy in a Plastic Bubble? He faced certain death if he exposed himself to the dangers of ordinary life. You might have to live in a Plastic bubble. You might well have to pay a price for being so delicate through no fault of your own.
Actually, that was just a movie with John Travolta, who believes in a whole lot of crazy...
Yes, it's unfortunate that because of Trump's incompetence, a lot of people are losing their jobs... but the alternative would mean a lot of dead people and they'd STILL lose their jobs.
Blame the virus, not the authorities trying to prevent it from destroying more people's lives.It is not okay that millions of people have their lives disrupted and everything they worked for taken from them.
Still it is just a flu virus and will likely kill about 60,000 of the immunodeficient like any other flu.
Two of our local hospitals are pretty much empty. Without income they are laying off doctors, nurses and especially specialists.
Blame the virus, not the authorities trying to prevent it from destroying more people's lives.It is not okay that millions of people have their lives disrupted and everything they worked for taken from them.
Blame the virus, not the authorities trying to prevent it from destroying more people's lives.It is not okay that millions of people have their lives disrupted and everything they worked for taken from them.
I blame democrats for their manufactured hysteria. I don't know a single person that had the virus. I know of anesthesiologists who are out of work, people in agony whose joint replacement surgery cancelled. I know of women who cannot get reconstructive surgery from cancer. I know of three hospitals that are all but empty waiting for the virus surge that never came.
I know all these people but not ONE that had the virus. The experts tell me plenty of people got the virus. They just never got sick.
Hey, did you hear about the child sexWhat's unfortunate is that we had a democrat president that paid a Chinese biolab 3.7 million dollars to come up with this virus as the democrat final solution.
That's an old talking point. Get with the program. With over 600K cases in the US that false narrative has been replaced with blaming China, the WHO, and with Trump hypocritically encouraging nitwits to break with social distancing protocols in contradiction to official government policy.I blame democrats for their manufactured hysteria.
It is not okay that millions of people have their lives disrupted and everything they worked for taken from them. ...You do realize that even before this dempanic nonsense life was a crapshoot. At any given moment dozens of diseases are swirling around you. There are several different strains of influenza, TB, even diseases thought eradicated still have vestiges. If you were to look at your skin under a microscope you would see an overcrowded war zone.You are right to a certain extent. People are not at this minute starving but if we continue with the lockdown that will change in very short order. Banks can not continue to forgive, rental owners can not continue to forgive, the governmedemocrats.ycontinue to place Trillions on its credit card. There has to be a point when no matter what we have to open.You are ignoring the fact that millions and millions are collecting unemployment, that small businesses have been given money they won't have to pay back as long as they use the money to continue to pay their workers, that stimulus checks have already been delivered all over the country and that major banks have agreed not to foreclose on unpaid mortgages. The people are hurting, sure. Unemployment is not as much as a paycheck and the small businesses paying their staff have cut the hours they are covering.I can see a reasonable "stay home" period, especially in cities where subway rides can mean an explosion in cases.
However, as long as masks are worn, and hand sanitizer used, that should safely allow people to work.
Governors need to know that most people live week to week and no work means no money.
Yes, for the economy's sake, we need to get things going. But it is not because everyone is penniless and starving.
People take a chance just from living, heart attack etc. you take a chance from getting in a car, from getting in a plane. People need to decide for themselves when the risk of loosing everything they have is worth the risk of going back to work.
Some even see the suspension of the bill of rights and the constitution as grounds for ending the lockdown.
People are in different positions in life. Yes, you take a chance by getting in a car, but if you drive a car totally drunk, your chances of getting in an accident rise considerably.
As for myself, while I understand the economic ramifications, I don't think the last couple of weeks will kill us. What will kill me is getting this virus, so my interest is seeing it wiped out ASAP. With my medical conditions, I'm that guy who's totally drunk getting behind the wheel of a car.
The greatest danger doesn't come from this virus. The greatest danger comes from sanitizing yourself so much that the eternal war for your health and well being gets out of balance.
This virus is not much different than the flu. The major difference however is how fast it can spread.
I understand both sides of the argument. But I don't go outside unless I have to for food, beverage or medication. It's not fun as we all currently know. I don't know anybody here personally, but I'm willing to bet most of the "open up the economy" people are at low risk for death. You catch it, no big deal. You stay home for a few weeks and carry on with life.
Okay, so we do just that, we open up the economy. What's likely to happen? That flattened curve will no longer be flat, It will resume going upwards. But hey, at least people are back at work or continuing their life, right?
That's true, but it makes people like me have to live this isolated lifestyle for months and perhaps well over another year. Is that okay with you?
Two of our local hospitals are pretty much empty. Without income they are laying off doctors, nurses and especially specialists.