Wendy's to install self ordering kiosks at 1,000 locations in 2017

[dannyboys]

Wendy's to install self-ordering kiosks at 1,000 locations in 2017
Wendy's customers will soon be ordering from a computer as the company plans on installing self-ordering kiosks at 1,000 of its fast food locations by the end of 2017, according to the company's February investor report.

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Jobs are going, going, going so many ppl warned those 15 an hr idiots this would happen. With Obamacare in the picture at the time and still on going for now . Who do you think these companies are going to want more computers/robots or a human pain in the ass who wants more and more pay, calls of sick, takes vacations.....
Yaaay it's such a conspiracy that technology will be taking many, many jobs.

How much do you figure it will cost to keep those computers in good working order?

These FF robots have titanium frames and the best quality food grade plastic components which can cycle millions of times with ZERO ware.
The computer module for a chip fryer costs about $300US to replace..........including the labor to literally slide it out, unplug it and slide in a new one. It's the identical technology as what's found in electronic casino slot machines.
'Plug and play' as they say.
The bottom line cost savings using robotic FF production equipment isn't even debatable anymore.
Get used to having your FF order made precisely as you ordered it. Hot and never touched by the dummy who didn't bother to wash his hands after he took a shit.

 

[dannyboys]

Talk about a cluster fuck waiting to happen......If this is true no more Wendy's for me

Then you can soon forget about going to any nationally known FF outlet again.

 

[dannyboys]

One will still be able to order from a person if they choose to.

"a person". Ya. One of three full time "persons" are 'mature' each with a side-income in the form of a pension.
These three "persons' work in a FF outlet that used to employees 12 part time employees on the day shift. But you go ahead and keep putting up your moronic uninformed posts.

 

[bullwinkle]

Wendy's to install self-ordering kiosks at 1,000 locations in 2017
Wendy's customers will soon be ordering from a computer as the company plans on installing self-ordering kiosks at 1,000 of its fast food locations by the end of 2017, according to the company's February investor report.

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Jobs are going, going, going so many ppl warned those 15 an hr idiots this would happen. With Obamacare in the picture at the time and still on going for now . Who do you think these companies are going to want more computers/robots or a human pain in the ass who wants more and more pay, calls of sick, takes vacations.....
Yaaay it's such a conspiracy that technology will be taking many, many jobs.

How much do you figure it will cost to keep those computers in good working order?

These FF robots have titanium frames and the best quality food grade plastic components which can cycle millions of times with ZERO ware.
The computer module for a chip fryer costs about $300US to replace..........including the labor to literally slide it out, unplug it and slide in a new one. It's the identical technology as what's found in electronic casino slot machines.
'Plug and play' as they say.
The bottom line cost savings using robotic FF production equipment isn't even debatable anymore.
Get used to having your FF order made precisely as you ordered it. Hot and never touched by the dummy who didn't bother to wash his hands after he took a shit.

And the first idiot that tries to special order a well done burger or mustard instead of ketchup will crash the whole program without some tech (read high paid) standing by. Will Robots clean the grills, wash the coffee pots, mop floors, wipe tables? So robots cost big bucks and people are still cheap? Get your priorities fixed!

 

[DrainBamage]

The problem is it creates less of them, and the ones it creates require more education (technical, not academic) and skills.

This isn't necessarily true.

Technology has been replacing jobs for over a century. Previous example given was ATMs, there were actually more bank teller jobs a decade after ATMs became common. We haven't had a long decline in number of jobs because of all these advances in productivity.

 

[martybegan]

The problem is it creates less of them, and the ones it creates require more education (technical, not academic) and skills.

This isn't necessarily true.

Technology has been replacing jobs for over a century. Previous example given was ATMs, there were actually more bank teller jobs a decade after ATMs became common. We haven't had a long decline in number of jobs because of all these advances in productivity.

The reason we have more bank tellers is there are 1) more banks, and 2) for some reason banks feel the need to have a gillion branches every 5 blocks, its like freaking Starbucks in NY.

"Ooh a Chase! Wait Another Chase! Wait, Still another Chase!!!"

I don't see how that is sustainable.

 

[DrainBamage]

The reason we have more bank tellers is there are 1) more banks, and 2) for some reason banks feel the need to have a gillion branches every 5 blocks, its like freaking Starbucks in NY.

Exactly. The kneejerk reaction of "automation will kill the jobs of the people who used to do this" doesn't necessarily apply, and while teller jobs are projected to start falling I doubt they'll be down to the levels before ATMs were supposed to automate them away.

 

[martybegan]

The reason we have more bank tellers is there are 1) more banks, and 2) for some reason banks feel the need to have a gillion branches every 5 blocks, its like freaking Starbucks in NY.

Exactly. The kneejerk reaction of "automation will kill the jobs of the people who used to do this" doesn't necessarily apply, and while teller jobs are projected to start falling I doubt they'll be down to the levels before ATMs were supposed to automate them away.

I don't know. As people who remember only being able to use tellers die off, I think there will be less of a demand for them.

hell, the use of online banking, and online money transfers to me means we should be seeing LESS branches, not MORE.

I really don't get it, honestly.

 

[dannyboys]

Talk about a cluster fuck waiting to happen......If this is true no more Wendy's for me

I've never seen one of these automated fast food kiosks. And I don;t think they will go over with people like me. I refuse to even use the drive through at those places. I park and walk inside to order.

I don't know how many other people do this but I do.

Currently, about one in every fifty FF individual orders are from 'walk-in' customers.
The rest are from drive-throughs.
A family of five no longer sits down in a FF outlet. The novelty has long since worn off.
McDonalds attempted to bring families in by installing those play areas. Trouble is they were a pain in the ass to maintain and soon parents realized they were allowing their children to crawl around on hundreds of balls covered with the 'discharges' from a bunch of kids whose noses were dripping snot. Not only that health risk and the resulting lawsuits that followed when a family of five eats in a FF outlet the bathrooms are used and end up filthy. The napkins and condiments are stolen. The noise levels keep people without kids away.
Go into any FF outlet at 10 in the morning. You'll see the same bunch of retirees every day doing crosswords. Reading the free papers. Nursing the 'endless' cup of coffee.
Nationally known FF outlets are quietly doing everything they can to discourage people from going inside.
Franchise owners used to have to provide X amount of parking spots.
A new Wendy's just opened nearby. There are ZERO 'customer only' parking spots.
In a decade there will be no inside seating in the country

 

[bullwinkle]

The reason we have more bank tellers is there are 1) more banks, and 2) for some reason banks feel the need to have a gillion branches every 5 blocks, its like freaking Starbucks in NY.

Exactly. The kneejerk reaction of "automation will kill the jobs of the people who used to do this" doesn't necessarily apply, and while teller jobs are projected to start falling I doubt they'll be down to the levels before ATMs were supposed to automate them away.

I don't know. As people who remember only being able to use tellers die off, I think there will be less of a demand for them.

hell, the use of online banking, and online money transfers to me means we should be seeing LESS branches, not MORE.

I really don't get it, honestly.

I don't bank online out of fear of hacks, but complete identity safety is also a myth, I think. Every time I receive somebody else's mail in my mailbox I wonder if any of my mail, account numbers included, could end up in someone else's mailbox, so...

As an old curmudgeon, I mourn the loss of neighborhoods. Your post of Chase Banks on every corner reminded me of the days when all neighborhood businesses were local...banks, drug stores, theaters, dime stores, cleaners, restaurants, and schools. Now all these are large corporate branches close to malls. I buy Ma & Pa when possible, but my old local hardware is gone and Harbor Freight is just so sterile. I also mourn the lack of service where I could once ask a question if necessary. Now I have Home Depot where employees are shifted from area to area..trying to keep up, but mostly guessing if I take on a project requiring helpful advice. Back to the point...human service will always be preferable to me.

 

[bullwinkle]

Talk about a cluster fuck waiting to happen......If this is true no more Wendy's for me

I've never seen one of these automated fast food kiosks. And I don;t think they will go over with people like me. I refuse to even use the drive through at those places. I park and walk inside to order.

I don't know how many other people do this but I do.

Currently, about one in every fifty FF individual orders are from 'walk-in' customers.
The rest are from drive-throughs.
A family of five no longer sits down in a FF outlet. The novelty has long since worn off.
McDonalds attempted to bring families in by installing those play areas. Trouble is they were a pain in the ass to maintain and soon parents realized they were allowing their children to crawl around on hundreds of balls covered with the 'discharges' from a bunch of kids whose noses were dripping snot. Not only that health risk and the resulting lawsuits that followed when a family of five eats in a FF outlet the bathrooms are used and end up filthy. The napkins and condiments are stolen. The noise levels keep people without kids away.
Go into any FF outlet at 10 in the morning. You'll see the same bunch of retirees every day doing crosswords. Reading the free papers. Nursing the 'endless' cup of coffee.
Nationally known FF outlets are quietly doing everything they can to discourage people from going inside.
Franchise owners used to have to provide X amount of parking spots.
A new Wendy's just opened nearby. There are ZERO 'customer only' parking spots.
In a decade there will be no inside seating in the country

Sadly, you are probably right. Every new process has a trade-off.

 

[dannyboys]

Wendy's to install self-ordering kiosks at 1,000 locations in 2017
Wendy's customers will soon be ordering from a computer as the company plans on installing self-ordering kiosks at 1,000 of its fast food locations by the end of 2017, according to the company's February investor report.

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Jobs are going, going, going so many ppl warned those 15 an hr idiots this would happen. With Obamacare in the picture at the time and still on going for now . Who do you think these companies are going to want more computers/robots or a human pain in the ass who wants more and more pay, calls of sick, takes vacations.....
Yaaay it's such a conspiracy that technology will be taking many, many jobs.

How much do you figure it will cost to keep those computers in good working order?

These FF robots have titanium frames and the best quality food grade plastic components which can cycle millions of times with ZERO ware.
The computer module for a chip fryer costs about $300US to replace..........including the labor to literally slide it out, unplug it and slide in a new one. It's the identical technology as what's found in electronic casino slot machines.
'Plug and play' as they say.
The bottom line cost savings using robotic FF production equipment isn't even debatable anymore.
Get used to having your FF order made precisely as you ordered it. Hot and never touched by the dummy who didn't bother to wash his hands after he took a shit.

And the first idiot that tries to special order a well done burger or mustard instead of ketchup will crash the whole program without some tech (read high paid) standing by. Will Robots clean the grills, wash the coffee pots, mop floors, wipe tables? So robots cost big bucks and people are still cheap? Get your priorities fixed!

There are NO "special orders" in the sense you are referring to.
The menu is set. If you don't want what's on offer then fuck you!
Yes a part time employee does the manual work like mop the floor. For minimum wage! The robotic coffee dispenser automatically washes the SS containers the coffee is brewed in. The robotic burger maker automatically cleans the conveyor the burgers are cooked on. A couple of full time 'mature' employees basically 'feeds' the robots the product. When the burger maker is needing more frozen patties the nice voice reminds the full time 'mature' employee to position another box of frozen patties on the intake portion of the machine.
You could say it runs like 'clockwork'.
You really don't have a clue pal.

 

[rightwinger]

I saw the same thing when Gomer and Goober lost their job at the filling station when self serve came in

 

[DrainBamage]

Currently, about one in every fifty FF individual orders are from 'walk-in' customers.
The rest are from drive-throughs.

50/1 is about 98% drivethru, which I find hard to believe. As of 2016 about 70% of McDonald's customers come through the drive through.

*How Drive-Thru Windows Changed the Way America Orders Food

In a decade there will be no inside seating in the country

I agree with your post that they'd rather see more people in drivethru, but I'd take this bet any day.

 

[DrainBamage]

I don't bank online out of fear of hacks

Someone hacking into your bank will get your data whether you use online services or not. Your data is in the same database as the online users.

 

[bullwinkle]

Wendy's to install self-ordering kiosks at 1,000 locations in 2017
Wendy's customers will soon be ordering from a computer as the company plans on installing self-ordering kiosks at 1,000 of its fast food locations by the end of 2017, according to the company's February investor report.

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Jobs are going, going, going so many ppl warned those 15 an hr idiots this would happen. With Obamacare in the picture at the time and still on going for now . Who do you think these companies are going to want more computers/robots or a human pain in the ass who wants more and more pay, calls of sick, takes vacations.....
Yaaay it's such a conspiracy that technology will be taking many, many jobs.

How much do you figure it will cost to keep those computers in good working order?

These FF robots have titanium frames and the best quality food grade plastic components which can cycle millions of times with ZERO ware.
The computer module for a chip fryer costs about $300US to replace..........including the labor to literally slide it out, unplug it and slide in a new one. It's the identical technology as what's found in electronic casino slot machines.
'Plug and play' as they say.
The bottom line cost savings using robotic FF production equipment isn't even debatable anymore.
Get used to having your FF order made precisely as you ordered it. Hot and never touched by the dummy who didn't bother to wash his hands after he took a shit.

And the first idiot that tries to special order a well done burger or mustard instead of ketchup will crash the whole program without some tech (read high paid) standing by. Will Robots clean the grills, wash the coffee pots, mop floors, wipe tables? So robots cost big bucks and people are still cheap? Get your priorities fixed!

There are NO "special orders" in the sense you are referring to.
The menu is set. If you don't want what's on offer then fuck you!
Yes a part time employee does the manual work like mop the floor. For minimum wage! The robotic coffee dispenser automatically washes the SS containers the coffee is brewed in. The robotic burger maker automatically cleans the conveyor the burgers are cooked on. A couple of full time 'mature' employees basically 'feeds' the robots the product. When the burger maker is needing more frozen patties the nice voice reminds the full time 'mature' employee to position another box of frozen patties on the intake portion of the machine.
You could say it runs like 'clockwork'.
You really don't have a clue pal.

This is another great set-up for a "Lucy" episode.

 

[dannyboys]

Currently, about one in every fifty FF individual orders are from 'walk-in' customers.
The rest are from drive-throughs.

50/1 is about 98% drivethru, which I find hard to believe. As of 2016 about 70% of McDonald's customers come through the drive through.

*How Drive-Thru Windows Changed the Way America Orders Food

In a decade there will be no inside seating in the country

I agree with your post that they'd rather see more people in drivethru, but I'd take this bet any day.

Read my post again.
I used the words: "individual orders".
When One vehicle goes through the drive through which has in it five people who each order that's FIVE orders.
There have been exhaustive scientific studies commissioned by the leading national FF chains.
They know literally to the fucking french fry how many customers walk through the door and how many go through the drive-through according to the time of day/day of the week/month/season/weather conditions/pay-days/welfare days/sex/age/special local events/estimated income based on the type of vehicle the customer is driving (yes the national FF outlets have a record of EVERY vehicle/type/age/EVEN FUCKING COLOR!). They record EVERY license plate number and the computer in the owner's office can spite out how many times a specific vehicle has gone through the drive through or has parked in the customer parking area time of day/per week/month/year.
Did you know about 50% of individual customers who are 'walk-ins' do so b/c they need to use the washrooms?
Otherwise they would use the drive-through.
Just like every time you use your 'air miles' card or some other card in a grocery store that store knows exactly how many tubes of toothpaste you use and which brand.
Nationally known businesses are basically one immense data collection enterprise.
There is now virtually nothing about your personal life that isn't in a fucking computer somewhere.

 

[DrainBamage]

Read my post again.
I used the words: "individual orders".
When One vehicle goes through the drive through which has in it five people who each order that's FIVE orders.

Actually the quote from McDonald's was that 70% of sales come from the drivethru, so your claim that 98% of individual orders come from the drivethru still doesn't hold water.

There is now virtually nothing about your personal life that isn't in a fucking computer somewhere.

I enjoyed your spiel about data collection, but am still doubtful that there will be no inside dining offered in ten years and your 50/1 thing doesn't add up.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Wendy's to install self-ordering kiosks at 1,000 locations in 2017
Wendy's customers will soon be ordering from a computer as the company plans on installing self-ordering kiosks at 1,000 of its fast food locations by the end of 2017, according to the company's February investor report.

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Jobs are going, going, going so many ppl warned those 15 an hr idiots this would happen. With Obamacare in the picture at the time and still on going for now . Who do you think these companies are going to want more computers/robots or a human pain in the ass who wants more and more pay, calls of sick, takes vacations.....
Yaaay it's such a conspiracy that technology will be taking many, many jobs.

Specifically discussing these fast-food kiosks - it's moot because they'll never take over the market.

But in a more general sense of your argument - Would you prefer to stifle innovation to preserve obsolete jobs?

 

[Political Junky]

I go to a restaurant that gives the option and most choose ordering from a person.